. >> shepard: i >> it has the potential to do a lot of damage but i find it dismaying that it's hard enough for conservatives to defend capitalism in this climate. you don't need newt gingerich, rick perry going out sounding like it's outrageous to fire people or streamline a company. >> what about the super pac candidate, the firewall. you heard newt gingerich talking about pretty extensively what the super pac would do, about bain capital. where is the wall between a candidate and the super pac? it's hard to know. mitt romney did the same thick thing. he had a nodding acquaints about what his super pac was saying abouting in. these are among the things we have to find out and ultimately will be litigated. i agree with jonah on the nature of the attacks. if you're a conservative and depressed about the presidential race and think the field hasn't been strong and you see people come up and go down, this has to be the nay dear of the election season. you have three con actives in it as much as to stop mitt romney as anything else. you can't feel sympathy for mitt romney. he's placed f

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not only in the conversation that shepard smith was having with him but reacting to the idea that the republican establishment, the wall street establishment. but again, a big wing of the republican party does not like what newt gingrich has done here. they feel as if he is here i'm quoting the limbaugh, using the language of the left. >> bret: it's not just newt gingrich. it was jon huntsman, it was rick perry in south carolina holding a presser today saying that bain capital is like vulture company leaving carcasses in its wake. that is strong language. he is in south carolina. >> it is strong language. and in south carolina he pointed specifically to a couple of companies that used to be based in the south carolina towns. he is really personalizing this. i'm not sure how much juice governor perry has on this message. i am guess leg does have, is holding attention of the people in the room. he is not the most strongest, he is not the strongest messenger at this point to make the case. it will be interesting to see tomorrow and thursday if the conversation is reset. or if it's intens