and we saw boehner has capitulated to them since 2007. boehner has been wanting grand bargains and it's fascinating because there is this segment of staunch idealogs who may not be looking at the larger picture who are driving these standoffs. the president bears some of this in terms of -- some of the blame here andticipate wanting -- thi is a reality that he has to maneuver and perhaps we haven't seen enough from him in terms of leadership on this issue either. >> let me bring in congressman peter welch. to liz's point, have we not seen enough leadership from the president? >> well, it's a mess, the whole situation. and i actually think that boehner would be wanting to make a pragmatic decision if he could get his caucus to do it. i think the president has been very clear and he won the election on a balanced approach where there would be some revenues. mr. boehner is practically saying -- >> the president got his revenues and so now it's time -- >> i understand it. but let's step back a minute. the president gave $1.5 trillion in cuts

of course, john boehner won't admit it. he wants to remind people that barack obama promised lower unemployment, you know, sour grapes all the time. and then continuing -- it's just going with a policy that could cost 750,000 more jobs to be lost. >> and you expect these numbers to turn around because of the sequester, correct? >> yes. oh, look, i had a meet with the faa today. they already got furlough notices. we're hearing about small airports that are going to possibly have to shut down or at least slow down considerably. this is real. and i got an e-mail today from a woman, her name is mary. a constituent that says her unemployment benefit was just cut $200. >> and the backdrop of this is that we can raise taxes on what they call the job creators. there's still more that can be gotten out there because of the income inequality in this country and the wealthiest americans who have really seen their incomes go up during this recession. and so is there more money out there that can be brought to the treasury from the weal

we'll have to see. >> speaker boehner sees no plan. the president faces a house republican caucus that paints him as a devil. so what's next? which mex circle of dante's inferno must the president journey through, anger, violence? >> as he said, he's not a dictator. he can't keep them in a room to work this out, but i think what's next is you are going to see president obama leave the white house, leave washington, d.c., use a similar tactic that he believes is useful which is to go out and talk to the american people about what he would like to see happen. i think that as he gets closer to that march 27th deadline, that next fiscal fight, the cr fight, i think you will see the public pressure mount. that is really now the new deadline. >> nbc's kristin welker. thank you. let's bring in our panel now. with us from washington msnbc political analyst karen finney and msnbc political analyst professor michael eric dyson. karen, if i might begin with you, have we not arrived at the most ridiculous and absurd moment when the speaker of the

>>> john boehner takes lying to a new level. the congressional panel weighs in on the speaker's latest attempt to pass the blame on the sequester. >>> and dennis rodman is back from north korea with a message for the white house? see how washington is responding to the basketball star's trip, coming up. don't forget, you can listen to my radio show on sirius xm radio channel 127 monday through friday, noon to 3:00 p.m. share your thoughts on facebook and on twitter using #edshow. we're coming right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." well, he has had time to reflect, yet mitt romney is still divorced from reality. in an interview with chris wallace of fox news, romney pointed to his failure to connect with minority voters as the real reason for his loss. yet romney is still convinced that his messaging was the problem? really? not his policies? okay. here is the former republican nominee attempting to explain his 47% remarks. >> yeah, it was a very unfortunate statement that i made. it's not what i meant. i didn't express m

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and so i recognize that speaker boehner's got challenges in his caucus. i recognize that it's very hard for republican leaders to be perceived as making concessions to me. you know, sometimes i reflect, is there something else that i could do to make she's guys -- i'm not talking about the leaders now, but maybe some of the house republican caucus members, not the pink horns on my head. and i genuinely believe that there's an opportunity for us to cooperate. but what doesn't make sense and the only thing we've seen from republicans so far in proposals is take these arbitrary cuts with even worse arbitrary cuts. that's not going to help the economy. that's not going to help growth. that's not going to create jobs. and as a number of economists have noted, ironically it doesn't even reduce our deficit in the smartest way possible or the fastest way possible. so in terms of going forward, my hope is that after some reflection, as members of congress start hearing from constituents who are being negatively impacted, as we start seeing the impact that the sequ

and boehner says where is the plan? there is a plan. he just doesn't like the plan. >> the house put two plans on the floor, they were voted on. weren't voted on in the senate. the senate voted on a plan. >> david, you have to start someplace. they don't want to start where you want to start. what are you prepared to cut, david corn? what are you prepared to cut, president obama? we've given you 6$600 billion i new revenue with no cuts. show me some cuts and we'll talk about it. >> 16 months ago, the president against some of the desires of people in his own party put things on the table. chain cpi, medicare cuts. >> he didn't have the plan. what was the specific amount of chain cpi? what was the number? >> these were memos passed between gene sperling and people in boehner's office. >> who i don't like it suits each of their political objectives. chuck todd said it beautifully, he noted this in first read this morning "yes, both sides are kicking and screaming publicly and yes, these cuts will impact people's livelihoods, but if you're

boehner says there will be no more tax increases. well, he, himself, put $800 billion in tax loopholes on the table some months ago. and now he's pulled it back. he's said oh, no, no, no, we're not going to talk about that anymore. he wants it both ways. he wants to have it one way, having them believe they gave us tax increases and now they're not giving us tax increases. it's simply a game that's being played that's going to hurt ordinary citizens. >> unfortunately, for american families, putting food on the table is not a game. thank you, congressman. >>> ahead, think all of those leaders from the tea party faded away? think again. why the gop is the tea party. >>> plus, the president made a comment today about republicans who demonize him. it made us all stop for a moment. and, for the first time, michelle obama responds to the right wing attacks. stay with us. ♪ it keeps me crying baby for you ♪ ♪ keeps me sighing, baby for you ♪ ♪ so won't you hurry ♪ come on, boy, see about me ♪ come see about me ♪ see about yo

a little bit of context there because i did push back on speaker boehner. the president, of course, maintains he does have a plan. about $900 billion in spending cuts. he wants new revenue by closing certain tax loopholes. he put means testing of medicare, chain cpi, which is a reduction of benefits as part of longerterm entitlement reform. speaker boehner says, look, if that's the president's plan, then why aren't members of his own party and the senate actually taking that bill to the floor and supporting that? that was not the guts of the bill that they tried to get passed to replace the sequester. bottom line here, chris, as you know, the speaker is not going to commit to any new revenue, even though i thought it was striking that in our interview, he said that he agrees that a lot of the tax deductions in the tax code are really a form of spending. >> david, quickly, but i'm always fascinated that you're an estu estute reader of politicians. john boehner 56 seconds long he talked after committing oing ou white house. what is his mood like? this is some

boehner says the democrats didn't have a plan but they obviously did. are they just counting on people not paying attention to this stuff? >> i think they're in their own universe. you pointed out and it's been pointed out over and over again the president has laid many plans at their door step to see what they might be willing to do. our colleague congressman chris van holland introduced a substitute in the house side and, quite frankly, wouldn't even allow it to come up. they really want to go down this road of the sequester and, by the way, if the speaker doesn't know how bad this would be all he needs to do is listen to ben bernanke about what kind of an effect this would have on economic recovery. all he has to do is listen to the national association of business economists who said the sequestration is a bad idea. i would suggest to him that he talk to one of the 25,000 women who is going to be unwilling, unable to be able to get a breast or cervical cancer screening or a family whose child is going to be kinlgd kicked off head start or a woman or

boehner and his team stood under a boehner that said "spending is the problem and then "#cut waists. waists--wastes. >> we have been caught in this battle of having clips and having deadlines. this is no way to run a government. until the president is serious about the serious structural spending problem that we have, we'll have to deal with it. >> michael: boehner is promoting a republican plan that would continue funding the government through september. president obama is staying out of the spotlight and calling members of congress reforming entitlement programs and cutting spending. today congressional offices received a note from the white house saying all tours will be canceled beginning on saturday. the tours are arranged by congressional office. one hill staffer told "abc news" said the move was vindictive and designed to make congress look back. i say who says the white house isn't playing hard ball. former congresswoman gabby giffords is taking her battle for common sense reform to the airwaves. her group americans for responsible solutions, is airing new tv ads in iowa and

speaker boehner would be speak fer that happens. i think he would lose the spikership. >> so as long as boehner does nothing, he'll hang onto his job as speaker. what a joke. eric abrahamson is a professor at columbia university business school and specializes in workplace leadership. he calls people who get paid to do nothing the michelangelos of work avoidance. and he's laid out the strategy they use to do nothing at work by always keep their job. first, spend as little time at your desk as possible, as the professor says, if people don't think of you, they can't give you work. this is something that speaker boehner has perfected. in the first session of this congress, they spent just 19 days at work and they left on another long weekend last night. second, deploy a good natured form of cluelessness. as the professor explains, the principle is you try to give work to a person and come to the conclusion that they can't even understand the instructions. cue speaker boehner. >> we should not have to move a third bill before the senat

he's pinned in here, michael, i think boehner is. the talking point for the house republicans is we passed two sequester replacement bills so that should be the starting point for the discussion but they were passed in the last congress. conventional wisdom in d.c. had the bills presented to this congress, with a reduced republican jaert and a few more republicans sensitive, they would not pass the house and with that in mind, with the conservative faction that holds sway over boehner and the defense hawks, also with a few republican members mindful of general election concerns, you have a promise of boehner today the house will pass a continuing resolution next week. do you think he can find the votes to pass only with republican votes and continuing resolution and what do you think it might look like? >> well, look. i think you raise an excellent question. there are all the different factions and the defense hawks is most interesting to me. i think what we have seen from the process is that the republican party has articulated its

john boehner really said that! he said something that liberal nobel paul krugman said for years and they have been saying the opposite. paul ryan echoed boehner on the debt saying we do not have a debt crisis. this is a very strange turn for republicans who have based all their budget cutting proposals on the idea that we do have a debt crisis. republicans in the age of obama have never wanted to mount a frontal, philosophical attack on social security and medicare because they're the two most popular things the american government provides. so instead of saying we want to cut and or eliminate social security and medicare because like rand we do not believe the government should be in the business of providing health care and or pensions and disability benefits to anyone, ever. instead, republicans have been saying we love medicare and we love social security but we simply can't afford those programs in their current form because of our debt crisis, because of our huge budget deficit, so reluctantly and bravely, we

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david, you sat down with speaker boehner for an interview. do you get a sense there is a face saving solution for either side in this? >> reporter: well, i think for the republicans they have rallied around the idea this may be a clumsy way of cutting spending but is still a spending cut and that is preferable to raising taxes. i talked about the dynamic with speaker boehner between him and the president harkening back to the meeting they had friday. here is part of that exchange. what goes on in these meetings? you talk about a nice conversation. you keep talking about your relationship being pretty good with the president. it's hard for any of us to believe that, given how personal it seems, given how pointed the language seems to be, and that you're just at such a basic philosophical, ideological, practical disagreement. i mean, you've got -- congress left town. >> we had a very pleasant meeting, but it was also a very frank meeting. i made it clear to the president that he got a trillion dollars worth of tax hikes in obama care. he got an

, i have been a critic of john boehner at times. he has been willing to lose his job over increasing taxes, over cutting spending. he actually had a deal with the president, and it was the president who moved the goal post. >> he would have lost the speakership, right? >> he wouldn't have. we increased taxes -- i didn't vote for it, but we increased taxes at the end of the fiscal year. >> that's not what john boehner said to david gregory. the president got his taxes. and he said, what do you mean, david, we lowered taxes on 99% of the people. >> we did, but the arrangement reality /* -- but the reality is he was willing to go to the white house and risk his job knowing that many of us wouldn't be happy, and the president continues to move the goal post. that's what bob woodward has been reporting. and finally somebody in washington, d.c., is telling the truth about what the president is doing. he doesn't want a deal. he wants a political victory on taxes, he wants a political victory on spending. and i'm afraid that he wants a poli

. >> absolutely. >> boehner, if there is some bipartisan agreement that comes out of the senate, boehner has shown a willingness if there is enough republican support for something, he will say, okay, let the house work its will. >> i think he has a chance to cowell back some of the power lost earlier this year that -- as we all discussed, boehner wasn't looking too great right before he became speaker. again, there is that -- you know, the precarious -- you know what i'm talking about he seemed to lose some clout and he is gaining it back. it's coming back. this is another way to do that. >> this might get the deal done, working with the senate, the senate, you know, bob corker, lindsey graham, people who want to get a deal done, to the 12 people the president met with might be more likely to agree to someone. >> i found this interesting the second getting democrats do of the white house strategy, they basically made a huge miscalculation on sequester. and the white house is almost openly admitting it by doing what they are doing now with republicans. fair to say? >> i think we were all

tax cuts that were, of course, voted for by john boehner. joining me now are karen finney, former dnc communications director and ezra klein columnist for the washington post. both are msnbc analysts. it eliminates history that they lived themselves that some of them deserve credit for, which was what they actually did do in fighting deficits during the 1990s, that newt gingrich and president clinton both contributed a great deal to that effort. >> right, but that's not the strategy now. the strategy now seems to be driven far more by their fear of the tea party. and i mean that sincerely, there's no reason that john boehner, if he wanted to, he could stand up to the far right in his party, and he could be making those kinds of deals with president obama. there are enough democratic votes, there are enough moderate republicans, as we've seen time and again, to get those things done. time and again he seems like he's a man treading water, trying to stay one step ahead. they're on the senate side, these guys who are up for re-election are terr

perspective in here of john boehner not to attack john boehner i could have written the entire book on him if i want to do that i did it to show the flavor of who's the third in line for the presidency of united states his style the john boehner i knew then is the john boehner today doing fiscal cliff seaquest ration in the process of the law when i went to john boehner for a health care bill that would stop genetic testing for individuals be held against them he said to me business community doesn't want just tell me don't like it philosophically don't tell me that. brilliant work thank you so much for being with us and at the book aside sway. people around the world are wondering out loud why america has a gun problem when canada and europe don't canadians europeans watch the same violent movies many canadians and swiss even have easier access to guns than most americans live in a big city gun control but only america seems to have so many men buying guns hoarding and discharging gun. psychological problem we have here what would freud say about all this the famous psychiatrist may w

>> and boehner is saying where is the plan. there is a plan, but he does not like the plan. >> that may be true, but the house put two plans on the floor, and they were vote on, and they weren't voted on in senate. you know, the, yeah, the senate voted on a plan yesterday, but david, you have to start some place, and the problem is that the democrats don't want to start where you need to start, and that is having an honest conversation about what are are you prepared to cut, david corn? what are you prepared to cut, president obama? what are you putting on the table? we have given you $16 billion in january of new revenues with no cuts. so show me some cuts, and then we can start about how serious you are. >> let me tell you something, 16 months ago the president against the desires his own party put things on the table, change the cpi for social security and cuts for medicare, and -- >> what were the specific change on cp snishgs what was the number? >> and these were the numbers pass bed tween jeantween gene s >> and it suits

mitch mcconnl, speaker boehner, they seem to have figured it out. i see them standing up and talking about regular orders. that is a command us moment. >> it is very important. however we got into this mess, we must find a way to solve it. the best way is to follow regular order. which means letting the american people know what we are voting on and unlike when the democrats were in charge. >> how about a buget? >> the law says the president was supposed to submit his budget are very poor. it is now almost march 4 and we have never seen it yet. the house has each year passed a budget. we just had paul ryan they are and the budget he will submit this time will balance in 10 years. we are going to get this right. we are going to offer the american people a plan to get the federal government in order by making smart choices and changers that will grow the economy and get on a better path. lou: does this complement the other leaders on capitol hill? what took so long? >> is a tough and challenging place. we made mistakes along the way. the important thi

it was a deal that speaker boehner made as well and all of the leadership. the bill that is on my desk is reflective of the commitments that we previously made, and, obviously, i would sign it because i want to make sure we will keep on doing what we need to do for the american people. jessica? >> mr. president, to your question of what you could do, could you just refuse to let them leave the room until you have a deal? >> i mean, jessica, i am not a dictator. i am the president. ultimately, mitch mcconnell or john boehner would say, "we need to vote or catch a plane." i cannot have secret service block the door. i understand. i know that this has been some of the conventional wisdom that has been floating around washington, and somehow, even though most people agree that i am being reasonable, even though that most people would agree that i am presenting a fair deal, the fact that they do not take it means that we should somehow do a jedi mind meld and convince them to do what is right. well, they are elected. we have the constitutional system of governmen

can they make that a reality particularly as it relates to boehner? can he lead his caucus to vote for something that averts this, chuck? is he leading it or is he being led by it? we'll find that out. >> susan page, one of the things i hear is that standing firm on sequester, which is something john boehner and mitch mcconnell are essentially doing, actually gives them leway on not turning the continuing resolution in one government runs out of money at the end of the month into a showdown, and actually will give them leeway to raise the debt ceiling without a big fight internally as long as they stick to their guns on these spending cuts. >> you know, i think it's really unfair to journalists to not have another showdown in three weeks because it seems like every three, maybe four weeks we should have some kind of crisis that allows us to use hyperbolic language. i actually think that we will not have a shutdown this month. i think it's clear that both sides have decided for just a go along kind of strategy. we'll see if that conveys also to the may

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as does speaker boehner, key democrats in key republicans realize what it is. he literally said to me i would willingly lose an election if i could solve these problems. it is that serious. tim geithner the treasury secretary in the book is quoted, thousands of boards ford's telling the president you have got to do something about this problem. we have to fix it fix it. literally we will close down the american economy and turn it into a global economy if they do not solve the issue of this runaway spending and get some white stop borrowing in excess. he tells the president of the united states ,-com,-com ma if we default on her obligations in our ious, we will trigger a depression worse than the 1930s. does anybody here remember the 1930s depression? you probably don't. i don't. i was not born but i have read about it. it was a calamity for the world. tim geithner said to the president, if we default on this, if we do not solve this problem, we will have an economic catastrophe that will make the 2008 financial crisis a footnote in the history books. does anyo

but john boehner is a talented golfer. he'd be the first one to tell you that if you got him on the show. >> professor, i'm sure the president will reluctantly give up playing golf, but it's going to be tough for everyone else, isn't it? for families to survive without assistance for nutrition, for families to cope without transportation for their disabled children. these are the kind of things that are going to hurt, aren't they? >> yeah. it's not the game of golf. it's the game of pool. they're behind the eight ball. american people are being, i think in a very serious sense, pushed into holes of want depravation and poverty. that sounds extreme, but the reality is when this sequestration goes through, when those budget cuts take effect, the poorest of the poor will be vulnerable. those whose backs are against the wall will be pushed into e the bricks further. and the reality is the golf games of the president or the speaker of the house are just ancillary to a central issue. and that is the inability to come to grips he

you basically have boehner, mike, right? i mean, he is really the guy that everything swirls around. speaker of the house of representatives. or is there another player that i'm missing here? >> well, boehner is key. harry reid is also key as well. because and the frustration for john boehner and a lot of his allies in the house is essentially harry reid controls the united states senate. same party as the president of the united states. why don't they get together and figure something out and do something? there has always been the pressure on the house republicans to pass something. they want to know what harry reid is is doing about these major problems that are affecting the country. talk a little bit what you guys were talking about in terms of entitlement reform, john boehner will tell you to your face that the president talk as good game. he says in the private meetings that we need to address entitlements, but then his actions never follow up those words. they will say that liberal groups who come to the white house

john boehner looking like an angry man standing outside the white house. says one sentence, i'm out of here. obama comes down, i'm a reasonable man and i'm open to any suggestions but these guys won't talk to me. i think the white house is winning on this and they won on the fiscal cliff, let's keep it running for a while. it really tanks the economy, but that's not a serious danger. only a quarter of a percent of gdp. or that the public goes crazy and says that you're the president. that's where the republicans are hoping but it will take a week or two. >> weeks. it's unclear when the public will weigh in with its sort of opinion on this, right? the president says it is not now, it may not be next week, it may not be the following week, it may not even be this month, but at some point. >> and the white house in some ways, i think the president came out last monday and it was much more of a dooms day scenario. and they have definitely walked that back saying it's not apocalyp apocalypse, it is dumb. but i do think for republicans, they don't have a good me

>> john boehner warned of it this week. the senate is looking at ways to playboy expand the flexibility. and john boehner said on thursday this week. he warned if the senate gets greedy. if they get greedy and mess with it, we could be back at having an argument and if we do it will be the senate democrats' fault. we're close but we're not there yet. gwen: what we saw in the continuing resolution to keep government running, we saw the house agree to something which is not something the democrats in the senate which is controlled by democrats would necessarily agree to. and that's the next hump, right? >> that's right. we've gotten so far away from the way budget making is supposed to be. we learned in civic classes. the senate hasn't passed a budget bill in like four years which republicans love to remind themmability. we've -- them about. we have the continued resolutions called the c.r. which basically funds the government at the old year that it was. you hit something important when you talked about speaker boehner sayin

that's his plan. >> do you accept the criticism of boehner? >> boehner keeps saying where is the plan. there is a plan. he just doesn't like the plan. >> that may be true, but the house put two plans on the floor. they were voted on. they weren't voted on in the senate. you know, yeah, the senate voted -- >> their plan was to take all the cuts out in the military and put them in social -- >> but, david, you have to start someplace, and the problem is democrats don't want to start where you need to start, and that is having an honest conversation about what are you prepared to cut, david corn? what are you prepared to cut, president obama? what are you prepared to put on the table? we've given you $600 billion in january in new revenue with no cuts. so show me some cuts, and then we can start talking about how serious you are. >> 16 months ago the president, against some of the desires of people within his own party, did put things on the table. changed cpi for social security, medicare cuts. he did, and they came up with -- >> he used the word

hernandez, tell us why boehner back tracked. what do you think happened between the interview he gave and subsequently clearing up the fact he's not for what he said he was for. >> it's one of those things it shows yet again the impact that the national rifle association has on capitol hill. tonight, i'm here as a member of the young elected officials network we put out a letter to combat that influence. there's 42 young elected officials from across the country said we cannot let the nra be the only voice causing even the speaker of the,000 go and change his opinion within 10 minutes of having given an interview. we need to combat the influence of the national rifle association and make sure it's not the only voice influencing the members of congress, that's the problem, not that anything changed he remembers he needs to keep the nra happy. >> if harry reid is not a victim of this nra lobby, as some people have argued, mr. graze, the senate majority leader released the statement tonight saying he started the process of bringing

>> you're right because boehner is repeating what obama says. the bottom line is this, the debt is the interest on the debt that is due. we bring in far more money than is required to pay the interest on the debt to cover social security and medicare, to cover the military and the vets. >> sean: all right. >> and what he's talking about and boehner is doing is paying for all the rest of the stuff. >> sean: by the way, you look good, great one. you lost some weight and you're working out and you look like you're ready to go in ufc boxing which you love so much. >> i love the ufc. god bless you. thank you, buddy, you're looking pretty good yourself in a manly kind of way. >> sean: gee, thanks, mark. the great one, mark levin. and coming up next, move over john brennan and chuck hagel because the president is about to unveil yet another rod ca cal-- radical nominee, and michelle malkin has more details on that straight ahead. my wife takes centrum silver. i've been on the fence about it. then i read an article about a study that looked at the long

house speaker boehner is speaking. let's keep an eye on the pope on the right. >> this is going to be tight. >> -- balancing the budget. what do we do to get our economy moving again? republicans want to balance the budget. the president doesn't. republicans want to solve our long-term debt problem, the president doesn't. we want to unlock our energy resources, to put more americans back to work, the president doesn't. but having said that, today was a good start. and i hope that these kinds of discussions can continue, even though we have very real differences, our job is to find common ground, to do the work the american people sent us here to do. >> all right, now we see the new pope, as he emerges, we wait for -- what you're going to get here first is the cardinal deacon, who is -- [ speaking latin ] >> if you're just joining us. we have a new pope. it is the argentinian, the first in history, latin america pope, jorge bergoglio and he has chosen name francesco. so they're going with the growth strategy in this cas

it's a good question i mean i can explain why speaker boehner went on t.v. and said this and by the way it was echoed almost immediately by budget committee chairman paul ryan on the c.b.s. sunday show so clearly either boehner created a new talking point or a talking points were handed down to him but it is an admission it's an admission then while we do have long term issues that the whole idea that we're facing an imminent emergency an idea that has been used to justify an austerity program that is radical and extreme the whole idea that we have this imminent crisis now the republican leaders are admitting is simply not true and i think this is a a watershed moment in these budget battles because it says that there's something else going on here it says that the republican party has an ulterior motive to have been pretending for so long that this is an immediate crisis well back in in seventy six june when esky came up with this two santa clause three where he overtly said to the republican party when republicans are in power the debt as hard as fast as y

but is there anything to the demeanor of john boehner? i only say this because he was cursing on camera. he has walked away from microphones after stating his piece and not taking questions. everybody seems pretty down right angry about all of this. and as gloria said, blaming the other guy or gal. wolf, remind me, how far apart are the positions muof these tw bodies? >> pretty far apart. one side wants additional tax revenue by heliminating loophol, exemptions. the other side said we're not doing that now as part of this deal. maybe as part of comprehensive tax reform coupled with entitlement reform, social security and medicare reform, a grand bargain, if you will, but we're not doing that now. they raised taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff in december, january 1st, all of a of our viewers remember. boehner as recently as the last few minutes said flatly the discussion about revenue, when they use the word revenue, they mean increased taxes, is in my view is over. so the white house is saying it has to be what they call a balanc

the donations include a $2,500 contribution to house speaker john boehner. could this perhaps explain would you say the speaker has to walk back his sensible comments for fear of losing that kind of financial support? >> well, i think what you've got is a republican party that is being gripped by a small minority. clearly a well-funded gun lobby in washington, d.c. you know, martin, i don't know how i got on the list, but i got a letter at home in the mail from the nra, saying, you know, dear van hollen, the gold's coming to take away all your guns and they're going to strip away your second amendment rights, you better send some money into the nra headquarters in washington right away so we can protect you against that kind of taking. that's what the nra is doing. they're using the scare tactics, fearmongering as a recipe for generating huge amounts of money here in washington, which they give in the form of political contributions to people to try and have it their way. >> it is absolutely remarkable today, sir, we see parents who lost their children, and

tonight, john boehner backs off background checks. and saxby chambliss doesn't support gay marriage because he doesn't plan on having one. and a crisis somewhere you never believe and the best borrow baptist church gets a new neighbor. first, president obama calls on young israelis to embrace peace. this is "the ed show." as ed would say, let's get to work. it was a passionate appeal for peace. after speaking with palestinians in the west bank, the president took his message to israel, delivering a major speech earlier calling for a two state solution in the middle east. this was the main event of mr. obama's first trip to israel as leader of the free world. the president delivering what the administration called the centerpiece of the visit. the speech wasn't given in front of the israeli parliament where his predecessor spoke at his first trip, given at the convention center before an audience of students. the president's message was clear, peace is possible but in order to secure peace and security for the jewish state, compromise