as he hastens to point out, he's the 33 solar panels, geothermal heating. >> so does jonathan capehart. i'm kidding. >> you let me secret out. >> he comes with a burden. of -- he is somebody who speaks his conscience. he has, he wants to be, he has a kind of stature, as ex-vice president, as perhaps the person who should have been president. so i think we kind of rightly scrutinize his actions. in the al jazeera deal, think it was a business decision. you know, al jazeera came in and bid a couple hundred million more than the next. my figure is 784 million on the record. rather than the 500 million. but in any case, he probably cleared about $100 million. and you know, he was in business with people who are business people. as well. >> well, right. and jonathan capehart, you give him, you're like, go get it. >> i'll take the rounding error, it's fine by me. the thing about former vice president gore. there's the cliched saying, living well is the best revenge and he's been having a wonderful revenge moment. >> revenge life. >> yes. >> the last thing, steve, was surprising to me, is tha

jonathan capehart, hillary i think is being wonderfully open about this. she didn't need that reference in her speech about secretaries of state last night to refer to not just the ones who became president. she is just kind of putting it out there. she's not trying to hide it. >> is she putting it out there or is she having fun? >> having fun running for president. this is the fun stage of running for president. >> yeah, when you're still popular, when people are clamoring for you to get in. when people are obliquely referencing you being sworn in as president of the united states, even though it's the back of your head. that was uncanny. anyone watching the emily's list ad will think, oh, my god, it's -- that's hillary clinton. and, you know, i can understand -- i can under the clamor. i'm sure former secretary of state, former senator, former first lady hillary clinton hears the clamor, is appreciative of the clamor. and i think by saying something like she did last night is having fun with the folks who are clom clamor ing for her to get in. >> it's th

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and with us from the white house, msnbc contributor, jonathan capehart, opinion writer for the "washington post." john, the president was adamant today his administration was as transparent as it could have been in these first hours after bengha benghazi. as soon as they had more information, they released it. obviously none of this will satisfy his critics nor prevent such attacks in the future, will it? >> reporter: no, it won't. see in the president's face the moment the question turned from the irs to benghazi. his face pinched. he looked at the reporter with what i describe as a death ray glare. when it comes in this issue, bengha benghazi, especially what was done to u.n. ambassador susan rice in the early days of this faux controversy, the president has been rather angry and upset by what's happened to susan rice, hillary clinton, thomas pickering, admiral mullen, the two men who were charged with the independent review of what happened. and also i think the reason why the president is angry about this is because republicans are focused on talking points and not focused on what actu

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joining me now, patricia murphy and jonathan capehart. thank you both for being here. >> thanks, rev. >> thanks for being here. >> patricia, bob dole says the gop should be closed for repairs. what do you say after hearing this donald trump news? >> i think you could hear the collective groan from what gop establishment that there is. the concept, the thought of donald trump running for president again just makes their hearts break even more, if that's possible. and for republicans today, really all you need is a mouth and a wallet to run for president. unfortunately for republicans, donald trump has a huge mouth and a huge wallet and he thinks he's a republican. and because there is no -- there is no leadership within the gop, there are no gray beards, there are no wise men, there is not an establishment to step in and say, go away. we have real candidates. it just speaks to the disarray in the republican party that anybody who raises their hand can be taken seriously right now. they will have more serious candidates, obviously. but this

and jonathan capehart, opinion writer for the "washington post." anna marie, i don't think we've seen republicans this giddy since the debt ceiling debacle of 2011. do you think they're rejoicing a little too quickly here? >> i think they haven't stopped rejoicing. i think their giddiness over scandal has sort of been a consistent theme for this administration. i shouldn't say giddiness over scandal, even. anything that stops things from happening. any kind of investigation that puts the brakes on any kind of progress basically on anything. this is the "no" congress. out rage would be easier to take from people that aren't on either partisan side if they offered solutions. as it is some of the things they're saying about these scandals and some of the outrage they're professing are over things that certain legislative actions could have avoided. like protections for journalists which could have stopped this a.p. scandal. which issa, darrell issa himself, voted against those protections. >> of course he did. jon, we're hearing this worse than iran c

. >> joining me now, msnbc's jonathan capehart and by skype, zack walls, founder of scouts for equality. zack, your reaction to today's developments. >> we're very pleased, lawrence. it's a really big deal, a big step forward. and like he said, it's not enough. and parents like mine, a lesbian couple, will continue to be banned from the organization. but i think what today's movement shows us is that the boy scouts are able to reconsider their position on this issue and it's likely they will continue to do so as we move forward. >> jonathan, your reaction. >> i think it's a terrific decision to allow openly gay scout troops. openly gay kids who want to join the scouts will now be able to do so. i do think zach raises the very important issue, you talked about in the intro, is that gay scout leaders continue to be barred from the scouts. and that's something that the boy scouts of america is going to have to address sooner rather than later. because once those scouts, those gay scouts, you know, learn all of these terrific things from the boy scouts, then they're going to drum these lead

. >> eagle scout zach wahls and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thanks, lawrence. >>> obama tells it like it is. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. president obama was at the top of his form today speaking logically and authentically to the american people about something truly important. protecting the u.s. in a time of danger. most powerful, i think, was the clarity of his arguments regarding drones. the targeting of americans who are making war on their country right now, and what to do with those prisoners down in guantanamo bay. on each point of action he raised the quite reasonable questions of whether a conscientious president can avoid acting as he has done. most powerful, i think, was the matter he handled the woman who kept crying out, interrupting hill. why i have no idea why his host down there allowed this to go on as long as it did, the president managed to present the callout as an example of democratic government in action. it was, i believe, the kind of presidential leadership

. >> joining me now is jonathan capehart and abby huntsman. it's pretty basic but these days it's a big deal. >> what? the president's message? >> yes. >> absolutely. >> but in these days, because of the extreme rhetoric, it becomes a big deal. >> yes, it is a big deal and i'm glad you shared the percentages for path to snin ship. what you have happening here is you have a country moving forward, that is advancing, progressing, if you will, and the people in the building behind me who are just not listening to the american people, for a bunch of folks fond of saying that they are listening to the voices of american people, which was a mantra among republicans, they are not listening on any of those issues. and they do so at their peril. >> now, you know, abby, the president talked about the struggle for change. listen to this. >> it was young people just like you that secured women's rights and voting rights and gay rights, often at incredible odds, often at great danger, often over the course of year, sometimes over the tranquil and steady de

and msnbc contributor jonathan capehart and radio talk show host michael smerconish now heard and exclusively. all three of you had an opportunity to hear the reporting from kerry. then analysis from karen. let me start with you. what's your take on this? the information is out there. it is not being considered evidence as of yet when it comes to things they are trying to display as representative of trayvon martin's character. >> well, it is interesting. i did speak with them as well as the attorneys for the martin family about this information evidence that was posted to the defense website, released by mark o'meara in the case. what the family attorneys were saying was this was never going to come in. it won't come in at trial. it is hearsay. it may be relevant depending on how the prosecution tries their case. sending a shot across the bow. if you bring up george zimmerman's background, we'll try to bring this in about trayvon martin. the judge today full stop sided with the prosecution and said this is not coming in. particularly in opening arguments. why that is important, it will preve

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. >> eagle scout zack walls and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thanks, lawrence. >> chris hayes is up next. >>> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes and thank you for joining us tonight. the president, you might have heard, gave a speech today. was in the middle of the day. i'm sure many of you missed it while at work. there are many days in which the president gives a speech. we come in every day and write on the board the president is giving a speech today. often, well, it's not really that newsworthy. today was different. today was president gave one of those speeches. an obama speech. one of those signature speeches by this person at this moment in history that somehow rise up out of normal politics and address a taboo with an uncommon level of frankness and clarity and nuance. one of those speeches so rare in politics that opens up a truly vital public conversation in this country. the kind of public conversation we want to have. the president started off today with the end of the war on terror. not just that there needs to be one, but what it might l

. >> i'm jonathan capehart in for toure and ari. yeah, i'm that good. the jersey shore is ready for its first memorial day since hurricane sandy. i wonder if snooki will be there. >> i'm s.e. cupp in washington. i am headed to west virginia this weekend to catch my body weight or the legal limit in trout. before that we're angling to keep you in the cycle, hook, line and sinker. ♪ >> the boardwalk. an iconic part of many vacations. with the memorial day weekend hours away, the boardwalk in new jersey is open for business after being decimated by super storm sandy seven months ago. governor chris christie set a world record, cutting a five-mile ribbon of open beaches for the season travel additionally it takes states nearly two years to recover. things along the jersey shore, however, are moving along a little faster because tourism is so vital to the survival of these towns. 96% of state beaches and nearly all the boardwalks in the state are open. unfortunately though, that's not the case for every shore town. cnbc's

. >> jonathan capehart joins us now. you've been talking about this. what is the significance of what jason collins did? >> on the one hand, what jason collins did wasn't terribly remarkable. i call it a gloriously unremarkable, in that back in 1978, harvey milk, then the san francisco board of supervisors, openly gay person said, you know, every gay person in america needs to come out and they need to do it, to their neighbors and co-workers and relatives so that way the more people come out, the more people will see that we're just like everyone else. what jason collins did this week is the same thing that i've done and millions of gay men and lesbians have done across kitchen tables, across america in living rooms across america for decades now. now here's where what he did is extraordinary. he is the first professional athlete who hasn't retired, who hasn't quit the sport that he loves. the first professional athlete to come out as gay. the first male to come out as gay. women have been coming out of the closet for a very long time. but we've been

"washington post" columnist and msnbc contributor, the effortlessly elegant jonathan capehart. senior political reporter at politico, maggie vaverman and the editor of "bloomberg business week" josh tengle. john, will there ever be enough data to sate republican appetites on benghazi? >> no, they clearly see something here. whether it's a actual thing or not, i don't know. it's interesting this they've focused so intently on the messaging thing and not looked at the bigger problem of security at embassies, that seems to be a much bigger sort of deal that's not really being addressed. they definitely see something and they taste blood. it gets their base riled up, so no. >> i was sort of shocked, that lindsay graham was as transparent as he was on fox about motivations vis-a-vis benghazi. let's play sound on that. >> you know, you don't have to be sherlock holmes to figure this out, the story of benghazi if accurately reported, would undercut the narrative, bin laden's dead, al qaeda's on the run and they manipulated the evidence to help their political re-election. that's obvio