fought testing, is now walking in concert with the owners that they want this stuff out and as michael wiener toured camps this spring, he heard time and again from players, look, a 50-game suspension has not been a deterrent enough and the players i know best, like lance berkman and matt holliday and chris carpenter, people like that, they are furious that guys are still trying to cut corners. again, in a competitive sport when you have competitive people, you're always going to have this issue. it's going to be a cat and mouse game between the tester and testee and all you can do is keep going at it. >> i want to play this bit of sound that hammers home that point from mike schmidt, the nature of being in such a competitive environment. take a look at this. >> what an exciting time for baseball. guys are -- home runs and ridiculous numbers and fans in the ballpark and revenue coming back and the game is back and, man, look how big he got over the winter and, you know, wow. [ laughter ] that's kind of like everybody's attitude. it's really something. this is the future of the game, i guess.
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