towards al qaeda. appreciate you coming, sir. you have a lot of details about this that you can share with us just developing now. first tell us about the capture that happened on saturday. >> well, we know that he was a target, you know, for the last 15 years. he was hunted by the u.s. authorities. let's put it this way. and from my perspective, i think it's a very crystal clear message, you know, from the u.s. authorities to the different terrorists groups all over the world, we are never going to for get any attacks on american assets on u.s. soil or from outside, and they think president obama is a little soft in this business, and i think it's the other way around. if you take an account what happened in somalia -- by the way, i think it's a masterpiece of operations, it's like a special ops. i think it's very important for the business, in the business of fighting against terrorists groups all over the world because it goes against al qaeda, and i am sure everybody thought al qaeda will convert h

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seals went after but failed to get the leader of the al qaeda linked group, al shabaab. >>> a powerful typhoon, bringing heavy rain and widespread power outages. more than half a million people evacuated ahead of that storm. those are the headlines. fault lines is next. [[voiceover]] every day, events sweep across our country. and with them, a storm of views. how can you fully understand the impact unless you've heard angles you hadn't considered? antonio mora brings you smart conversation that challenges the status quo with unexpected opinions and a fresh outlook. including yours. consider this. unconventional wisdom. >> we came to yemen to see what sort of life awaits the men after guantanamo. however no detainee has returned here since 2010. the one exception is adnan latif. he came back in 2012, in a body bag. >> it took more than three months from the day mohamed latif heard the news his brother adnan had been found dead in a cell, until he was able to bury his body here. a military autopsy at guantanamo determined he'd committed suicide. and by the time the us military delivered

a senior member of al qaeda. also to tell you about in somalia, we are learning a us navy s.e.a.l. team went on a mission there in smaomalia and they tried to nab an al shabaab leader possibly linked to that kenya mall attack that left 67 people dead. the navy s.e.a.l.s had to withdraw before they confirmed he was killed because they were under fire. a u.s. official does not believe any s.e.a.l.s were killed. al shabaab works as al qaeda ease proxy in kenya. that's important to point out. so that said, i want to get to peter bergen. he joins me now from washington. al shabaab works as a proxy to al qaeda in that region. tell us about that. >> well, even more than a patriotproxy, don, al shabaab is really a wholly owned subsidiary of al qaeda. they've had a relationship with al qaeda going back several years, but last year, they formally announced a merger of the two groups, so call it an affiliate so to underestimate the relationship between them and we saw with the attack on the mall in kenya, that this is a gro

has al qaeda in the arabian peninsula ever tried to recruit you? they have found scarce jobs in a honey store in taiz. faruq is studying to be a lawyer. both have married, and are expecting their first children soon. the government of the united states hasn't apologized or compensated them for the years they spent imprisoned. nearly seven months after the hunger strike began, some 35 men continued to refuse food at guantanamo bay. in washington, the white house declined to speak with fault lines for this report. in yemen, families are still waiting for signs that their loved ones are coming home. (vo) al jazeera america we understand that every news story begins and ends with people. >> the efforts are focused on rescuing stranded residents. (vo) we pursue that story beyond the headline, past the spokesperson, to the streets. >> thousands of riot police deployed across the capitol. (vo) we put all of our global resources behind every story. >> it is a scene of utter devastation. (vo) and follow it no matter where it leads, all the way to you. al ja

was really serious about al qaeda wanted to deal with it they would do they wouldn't be supporting al-qaeda in syria they would be wanting a secular regime in syria to be toppled that they wouldn't be wanting regime change in libya would be a real cloak also the worsening turmoil in iraq is directly linked to the rise of al-qaeda in syria. incidence that has been misused by can violence in syria and in iraq at the same time al-qaeda groups are going from iraq to syria from syria to iraq the whole movement is in turmoil because of the united states policies and this is not a mistake this is it is a mistake to think it's a mistake if you like because whenever the neo-cons come on to talk about iraq of course they very rarely want to talk about iraq they always like to claim that while tony blair and george bush wanted world but they made a few mistakes along the way that's nonsense the whole of the exercise was to destroy iraq as a functioning country to make never again be a threat to regional powers that the us backs in that region the same with syria and as yards militants keep up their wa

the afghans were fighting al qaeda long before the u.s. was in battle with al qaeda. now we look at the afghans and say, you are on your own. i spoke this morning to someone on the ground in kabul, and the sense i have from the john kerry-karzai negotiations is neither of them are particularly committed to this agreement they have come up with. that is not good for us -- afghanistan and is not good for the u.s. can you pick up on that? >> is very important to recognize one simple fact. we cannot afford to let all qaeda and jihadist islam more generally enjoy another victory. i think there are many jihadists in afghanistan and around the \in afghanistan and around the world who believe they successfully confronted the soviet union and defeated it. that empowered the movement. it has become extremely dangerous for us, not only in south asia, but worldwide. it cannot and of leaving the rich -- region in the situation where they control the same conclusion that they have defeated the united states as well. that is something we have -- ought to keep in mind as a strategic

has al qaeda in the arabian peninsula ever tried to recruit you? they have found scarce jobs in a honey store in taiz. faruq is studying to be a lawyer. both have married, and are expecting their first children soon. the government of the united states hasn't apologized or compensated them for the years they spent imprisoned. nearly seven months after the hunger strike began, some 35 men continued to refuse food at guantanamo bay. in washington, the white house declined to speak with fault lines for this report. in yemen, families are still waiting for signs that their loved ones are coming home. >> low-end welcome. i'm phil torrez here to talk about innovations that can change lives. we're going to explore the intersection of hardware and humanity. lindsay moran is a former cia agent, kyle hill is an engineer, tonight he's got the dirtiest job and the science that can revolutionize indians's dairy farms. michelle

loyalty to al qaeda. many groups in libya and syria. what you are dealing with around the world since 9/11 is, you know, al qaeda 2.0 is what a lot of people call it. back in 2001, you had osama bin laden, you had the group of men around him. they have largely been dealt with. you can see the eruption of al qaeda organizations throughout the middle east, throughout africa, mainly in areas where governments are poor and people are not looked after by their governments, there's a lot of poverty and ability for them to recruit constantly a new population of young men to their movements. getting the al shabaab guy, it will do something for awhile. i don't think anybody is predicting it's the end of al shabaab or al qaeda in syria. >> special operations are working around the world every single day and missions being carried out. the reason these two are breaking news is because they are such high profile people they are going after and organizations. so, talk to me about what else could be going on. why these

qaeda and islamic terrorist groups they're not they will use al-qaeda terrorist groups like them to help them to topple independent minded governments like president assad in syria in libya and elsewhere but they will also use the presence of al qaeda groups in order to intervene in countries where they want regime change as world you know like mali for example in afghanistan so in fact the west news is ok to use this comic groups and not implacably opposed to that's a great myth nobody has done more to boost the rise of al-qaeda in the last twenty years than the united states that's the fact and speaking of al qaeda it seems to be expanding itself as a network becoming more organized is there any way to stop it from getting any bigger from what it is right now. it goes back to the u.s. i don't think the u.s. wants to stop but i think you know al-qaeda serves a very useful purpose for american foreign policy and for israel to saudi arabia you know the fact is that if al qaeda didn't exist it have to be invented it serves an awful lot of good purposes for united states to push its ag

qaeda solution but it seems al-qaeda has metastasized and continue spreading with drawn strikes and brewing civil wars in washington i'm going to. we discuss the situation with journalist and broadcaster neil clark he believes the u.s. is simply not interested in curbing our influence in the region the fact is that if al qaeda did exist it have to be invented it serves an awful lot of good purposes for united states to push its again to around the world if the u.s. was really serious about al qaeda and wanted to deal with it they would do they wouldn't be supporting al-qaeda in syria they would be wanting a secular regime in syria to be toppled that they wouldn't be wanting regime change in libya would be. in turmoil in iraq is directly linked to the rise of al-qaeda in syria. there is no coincidence that there's been this huge spike in violence in syria and iraq at the center of al-qaeda groups are going from iraq to syria for syria to iraq the whole new version is in turmoil because of the united states policies and this is not a mistake this is it is a mistake to think it's a mis

it is true my husband was a member of al qaeda. he left al qaeda in 1996, two years before the bombings. he did not take part in any bombings anywhere in the world. he participated in the jihad in afghanistan. he was a member of al qaeda and he was personal security for osama bin laden. that's the truth. he did not take pat of any operation. >> she says she doesn't know who actually took her husband but she describes them as men who looked like they were libyans. they spoke arabic with libyan accents. you have to wonder whether or not this makes any difference at all, whether he was involved with the bombing or an extra treasure trove of information that he was involved with bin laden back in the bombing days. >> it's interesting what it says about the state of the libyan government. that the government who ostensibly was a friend of the u.s. wasn't involved in this. libya is a country that still is having a lot of problems in terms of governance. nic was saying it faces implications how is that going to turn out? >> all sort of le

>> al qaeda is not working. there are -- to al qaeda. the second part, the second phase of al qaeda. that is the corruption inside of the political class. al qaeda gave financial support and logistical support to most of the iraqi government from the army that can reach easily to its target. >> you said it have support within the government structure? >> of course. al qaeda becomes -- after six months or eight months or one year, it has become a more stronger. there is a reason for that. the reason we cannot analyze because of the iraqi and local political conflict. >> you are saying al qaeda draws its strength from the weakness of the political system? >> vi ready system -- the iraq the system is sectarian. doing the time of saddam hussein -- during the time of saddam hussein, people called for building and construction and a democratic regime. [indiscernible] that now we have not a really democrats -- a real democracy. >> you have all of the trappings of democracy. a multiparty system. an opposition. you have news media and elections.

qaeda, and al shabaab. in the case of al qaeda, they've been decimated to a great extent by all our efforts. what is actually left of al qaeda? >> well, you think about an organization that was very much in the top in bin laden's days, they sort of ran everything. they wanted to approve everything. and they sent out the mandates. they sent out the instructions to their minions who then car carried out whatever operations bin laden believed were appropriate. since we have been having success over the years both the previous administration and this one in taking out leadership there and the second-tier leadership, it's become a much flatter organization. that's where we see al qaeda d taking on importance, that's where we see activities with al shabaab taking on importance because you have cells who are smaller entities who have the exact same agenda. it's not like they're changing, but they have more authority to enact operations on their own. so they're not going away. we shouldn't think we're going to win

with al qaeda. the westgate group reflects the ascendancy. it was to avenge the invasion of southern somalia launched two years ago to push back chronic instability from the two countries shared boater. al-shabab had a similar motive in 2010. uganda is the largest contributor to african union's peacekeeps force in somalia. the targeting of the westgate, packed with families from around the world, show that al-shabab wishes to mak a larger statement, to the countries in the region and the allies which pouter them. there are key points to bear in mind about the attack. first, we should be weary of using west greatto draw broader conclusions about the risk posed by al-shabab to the u.s. home happen. the threat level is not is inly changed by events in nairobi. the most alarms aspects of westgate is al-shabab from its perspective has scored a big hit with relative ease. it realized all it needs is a soft target, planning, plenty of ammunition and determined attackers willing to die for their cause. we s

they have reasons to work with al qaeda ap rativeoperatives. over the years, al qaeda has been unable to operate in other countries. it was a reason for al qaeda to persuade somali that kenya was an enemy and deserving of an attack. and the question for the united states is, how successful will al qaeda continue to be at using africa's small wars to hurt u.s. interests? >> what are the u.s. interests in going after them what are our threats doe messically? >> i think there are very little threats at this point. 50 somalis who have u.s. passports have left the united states and gone to somalia. there is a remote possibility that they will come back and launch and attack. the u.s. is worried about al qaeda operatives. they are coordinating with the radicals. the u.s. has little reason to worry about al shabaab itself because it is primarily an insurgesy. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> there was still another apparent terror incident today this one in yemen. gun men attempted to kidnapping. >> under terms of the recently approved un securi

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against al qaeda. they've done that in iraq and afghanistan. .. told me years ago when i asked him the first signs of america withdrawalling in the air. i asked him about that. he said to me, had said, afghanistan is a small, poor, third world nation. we don't have any illusions about who we are. we don't think for one moment we can influence the united. he said, but i will tell you this, i was fighting these people long before you came to my country. the mountains were here before you. the rivers were here. and they will continue to flow after you have gone. he said, the leader of the taliban, bin laden, these are true forces of darkness. they cannot engender a vision for the world. i will be fighting whether or not you are here. and i found that to be true then and true today. what i love about it is this articulate are -- afghan man put so perfectly. the afghans were fighting al qaeda long before the u.s. was in battle with al qaeda. and now we look at the afghans and say you're on your way kind of

what is al-qaeda? al-qaeda is not just a terrorist organization. it sees itself as the vanguard of an insurgency in the muslim world. >> it's a political revolutionary movement. >> that's right. and what is our ideal end state? our ideal end state is that the muslim world defeat this insurgency, not only reject it, but defeat it. in order for that to happen, we need people in muslim countries where there are al-qaeda to stand up and fight against al-qaeda. they have done that in iraq, and they have done that in afghanistan. and i know that seth and i anyway, i don't know about ashley, have been on the ground and spoken with iraqis and afghans standing up to fight against al-qaeda who look us in the eye and say are you going to be there with us when these guys come back and try to kill our families? and the fact that in iraq the answer has been, heck no, and that we're now having a discussion in afghanistan about going to zero which would make the answer no undermines the best possible outcome we could have in this struggle which is muslim people ri

, an al qaeda operative charged in the 1998 bombings of the u.s. embassies in kenya and tanzania, was captured in libya and transferred to a u.s. navy ship for interrogation, a move criticized by some republicans, including south carolina senator lindsey graham. >> in al libi's case, he's on an american warship because the administration refuses to use guantanamo. putting him on a navy vessel for a matter of days or weeks is not a proper way to gather intelligence on the war on terror. >> wall street journal editorial board joins us. let's go to al libi. how big a capture is this? >> i think he's felt by most specialists as an enormously important capturcapture. some even think he's more important than the 9/11 mastermind, mohammed. >> wow. >> that would be a big deal. theoretically it's extremely important for them to interrogate him properly, he was with al qaeda almost from the beginning. he has spent years in iran. he could talk about the iranians and al qaeda, so this has been an enormously important capture. >> he reportedly was being sent to

about where al qaeda is expansion is heading. and president obama is accused of directly encouraging u.s. intelligence to spy on chancellor merkel's phone calls plane that the n.s.a. vigorously denies. ever get even choose kevin over here tonight for the next hour thanks for your company first than a series of bomb attacks across iraq left at least sixty six people dead dozens more wounded most of the blast targeted districts around the capital baghdad the iraqi government blames the daily attacks on sunni islam is linked to al qaeda that's now than take a look at how the terrorist network became so powerful on the news all here base in afghanistan from one thousand nine hundred six to two thousand and one al qaeda was under the protection of the taliban it was also present in pakistan to the jihadist group began a rapid expansion then after washington launched its war on terror in response to those attacks of nine eleven prompted by the u.s. invasion in iraq the country's radical islamists are in two thousand and four there by t

al-libi was also al qaeda's computer expert. his laptop is where investigators found 180 page manual on terrorist trade craft. with lessoned from document forgery to weapons training to assassinations. >> it really made clear just howe serious a threat al qaeda was because it lays out step-by-step the things that an op rattive would have to do to pull off a terrorist attack like 9/11 or the embassy bombing attacks in '98. >> raskin says al-libi probably will be intergrated first overseas for overall intelligence information then read his rights and potentially questioned in new york about the specific charges against him. >> and a reminder tonight you can see lara logan's report on the battle that brought down a blackhawk helicopter in somalia 20 years ago with footage never seen before, later on "60 minutes." >> a bomb killed four american troops in kandahar province in southern afghanistan today. 102 americans have been killed in afghanistan so far this year. the overall u.s. death toll in 12 years of war stands at 2,146. >> m

so, it will instill, a degree of fair for al qaeda and also there are precautions for joining al qaeda especially during a time where al qaeda expands its affiliate and its franchises to the expense that they can attract more than 100,000 recruits from across the atlantic world. so, we heard the u.s. secretary of state say that the operations of libya and somalia shows the u.s. will never stop and that's the act of terror he said. we often hear about afghanistan and pakistan and the drone attacks there. how expensive has the u.s. fight against extremistss been in this familiar region of the world? particularly in the east africa region? >> after the outst of gahdafi. it was full of conflict and split between tribele and regional lines which it can be exploited by a diplomat so al qaeda sees this as a great swamp where it can attract further recruit and serve as a launching past against the west. when it comes to al qaeda, the demonstrations really draw the red line. then when it comes the to others -- the united states are to engage with them but without al qaeda, it elevates the red l

qaeda terrorist whose name is abu anas al libi. what they did when he when they captured him is they put him on a ship and about a week ago my colleague from south cearld and my colleague from georgia, who is the ranking member of the intelligence committee, we stood up and we said, why when we gather -- and we capture successfully, which is as a result of the great work done by our special forces and our intelligence agents, one of the most important al qaeda captures that we have made in our country in years, why are we putting him on a ship for purposes of interrogation instead of bringing him to the guantanamo bay die tension facility, which is a top-rated detention facility where we can do a lengthy interrogation of someone who has been associated with osama bin laden, who has been associated with the current head of al qaeda, anwar a al awac can i, someone who is charged with participated and being involved in the tanzania bombing at the embassies that killed 224 people including 12 americans, someone who's been described as

this time a suspected member of the al qaeda was the target. pentagon confirming the target was abu anas al liby, wanted by the u.s. for more than a decade, with a $5 million bounty on his head. libya is demanding that u.s. provide answers on the capture of that suspect in libya. >> we are joined by jeanne meserve, and what exactly is the u.s. saying about the arrest? >> the pentagon press secretary is saying that abu anas al liby is being lawfully detained under military law at an undisclosed location outside of libya. they are not saying what that location is. right now in washington, democrats are saying democrats and republicans are not agreeing on much. several republican lawmakers have issued statements applauding the operation. collaboration between military organizations. they urge that he be intergated to be exploited fully for what he might know about the al qaeda network. we received a statement from caitlin hayden, the spokesperson from the security council. she indicates that is the case, and says that the president urged when poss

he defined the problem as al qaeda. he felt if he decap tated the leadership by surgical strikes and drone strikes he'd deal with the problem. we are dealing with a phenomenon, inurgency, ideology. the phrase they used in the barack obama administration is al-qaeda-inspired terrorism. al qaeda is the end product of decades of extremism within the middle east. >> you write in your book and say, "you can't kill an idea, ideas are bulletproof." >> what is it that the united states can do and other moderate muslims do, can there be more foundation. >> you hit the nail on the head. if we look at the combination of what has happened, al qaeda achieved more since the death of osama bin laden than they did during his lifetime. they controlled territory in north mallie, yemen. they physical controlled territory. the surgical strikes, the assassination, targeted killings did not achieve what we wanted - to do away with the brand. our job should be the make the ideology of islamism unattractive and unappealing. >> we wish you the

intelligence gathering on al qaeda. we'll tell you what the reveal was and why everyone is so worried. >>> and is the decade of research on hard drugs including cocaine and heroin heroin wrong? i'm antonio mora, on consider this. still spinning from iranian president rouhani, as al jazeera's courtney ceel keely reports, netanyahu warned the u.s. not to be fooled by rouhani. >> iran is committed to israel's destruction. >> israeli president benjamin netanyahu said the only diplomatic solution is for iran to dismantle its nuclear program. >> in fact it is israel's firm belief that if iran continues to advance its nuclear program during negotiations the sanctions should be strengthened. >> days after the historic phone call between obama and iranian president h5n1. hassan rouhani. he said he would speak out against the iranian charm offensive and the sweet talk of smiles. the last time rouhani was at the negotiating table was in 2005 as iran's chief negotiate poor. he worked with the governments to suspend the iranian nucl

this attack in kenya fits the strategy ayman al-zawahiri lie out for al qaeda globally. does -- that al-shabaab is on the retreat, dr. jones? >> i think one senses the competence of terrorist organizations like al-shabaab in several ways. one would look at their control of territory which they lost but what they demonstrated is they lost ground and that issue is important because one of their goals is to attempt to overthrow the somalis government. their success on that part of their strategy, they have not been victorious at recently but what i think they have shown and what this does demonstrate is even though they lost some ground they still have an attack capability. if you look at the history of al qaeda the strength and weaknesses of its affiliates and organization itself have ebbed and flowed in a series of waves. even with the collapse of al-shabaab into southern parts of somalia they are dangerous organization. >> do you think that capacity extends beyond the african continent? they think al-shabaab has the capacity to carry out this kind of attack or a mumbai s

behind the al qaeda expanding network in libya and directly tied to al qaeda senior leadership. this is more recent picture of al-libi which is involved in strategic planning which included forming training camps in libya which al qaeda saw a growing opportunity to build the network after the fall of the libyan dictator qadaffi. he was the main liaison between the network's leader, al-zawahiri and jihadists in libya with u.s. officials and analysts insisting his intelligence value is high because he began serving al qaeda in the 1990s. >> the al qaeda core is not just holed up pakistan waiting to be droned to death. they dispersed their agents around the globe and pushing al qaeda's agenda very aggressively. >> reporter: in the last hour fox news was told the time to move al-libi to a federal court in new york city may be a shifting. a move back, we don't know whether he is cooperating or resisting those questions, jenna. jenna interesting. he is on the ship right now. that was the raid that happened in libya. you have the other raid that happened in somalia. you have informatio

and also against al qaeda. i guess the ben ghazi attack is fresh in everybody's minds even though it's already a year old. i think it aggress addresses one threats. >> high do you think this happened today? this weekend? >> i don't think this weekend is particularly special. i'm sure those operations happened when all the pieces come together. when they match the forces in the area and so on. i don't suppose they are waiting in october or anything. nonetheless, it is significant that they have forces out there ready to take advantage of any opportunity that does occur. >> the person targeted in libya known as an al qaeda operative. what do you know about this person? >> he goes back a long way. he's famous and well known. one of the few senior al qaeda figures who's still at liberty and maybe to longer at liberty from what we hear. he's also being indicted in the courts involved in the 1988 bombing of the american embassies in niorbi and in saw dan. > sudan. >> how badly wanted was he? >> well he was wanted far

as al qaeda -- >> capture hip as opposed to just shoot him from drones. >> the last two year, al qaeda's really bounced back. at the same time the president is saying this war is receding, but with africa and the attack in somalia. the fact we've captured this high value target to get the intel. we try to do we did in somalia to get another terrorist leader. we have to take these guys on where they are. >> so you give -- even though the raid and capturing the target, the terrorist, in somalia failed on the weekend, you would credit the administration for trying and taking the risk? >> there was one other capture of a guy in africa, but very reluctant to take these guys alive, preferring to kill them by drones. we need the intelligence. think this is a good change in policy. >> now, the question is why has al qaeda moved to north africa? they used to be in afghanistan. they're in mali now, somalia. they look to operate where there are weak governments. >> dysfunctional governments. >> they're not just sitting there, they are train, they are importing arms and they are planning. they need

the afghans were fighting al qaeda long before the u.s. was in battle with al qaeda. now we look at the afghans and say, you are on your own. i spoke this morning to someone on the ground in kabul, and the sense i have from the john kerry-karzai negotiations is neither of them are particularly committed to this agreement they have come up with. that is not good for us -- afghanistan and is not good for the u.s. can you pick up on that? >> is very important to recognize one simple fact. we cannot afford to let all qaeda and jihadist islam more generally enjoy another victory. i think there are many jihadists in afghanistan and around the world who believe they successfully confronted the soviet union and defeated it. that empowered the movement. it has become extremely dangerous for us, not only in south asia, but worldwide. it cannot end up leaving the region in the situation where they control the same conclusion that they have defeated the united states as well. that is something we have -- ought to keep in mind as a strategic consequence of the way we manage the tr

they are fighting al qaeda. there are several good questions that have been asked by the audience. what do consider to be your key achievement being in two terms now in iraq? what do consider failures? what did not work well? >> well, it is a question that is not easy to answer weekly. that i be last anything. the iraqi institution, the parliament, the cooperation m, everything achieved because iraq was about to collapse. able to move out of the north and the south. some of the regions were controlled by the terrorists. aboutwere many talk dividing iraq in internal strife . we had a miller shows -- we had militias who are in -- ab ducting people. 25 caron a daily basis, bombs and beheadings of people and unknown corpses. everything was about to. our main achievement was to reunite the iraqis and to start again based on our being iraqis and not based on our sectarian allegiances. some of the people still believe in their concessions, but we are -- talking sunnis and shiites. this is our main achievement. the seco

does he know about al qaeda and al qaeda network in the libyan perhaps or other al qaeda operatives across north africa. does he have any information about that core al qaeda group still left in wack stan that he associated with back in the old days, so to speak, 12, 15 years ago. how much current information does he have? that's what they will really want to know. don? >> barbara, listen. turning to seal team 6. stormed the home of one of the top leaders of al shabaab in syria. that carried out what happened in the mall. is this a success, failure, what is it? >> we may not know yet because it is not clear exactly what happened there. their target wasn't seaside villa. soon to be the home or headquarters in the al shabaab network. they ran into a big fire fight. there are civilians there. navy commander on the ground that made the decision that would bug out of there, rather than risk some large number of civilian casualties perhaps that was a big worry. so they got out pretty fast. what we don't know, what they are not able to say yet, we're told, is whether they got the man they were lo

they remain blinded about al qaeda. why? if they admit it, then they'd have to go back and say we really did make a big mistake on benghazi. they're not about to admit that. he's looking for a very different legacy. the legacy he wants is an arms control deal with the iranians at almost any price. the iranians want to have the sanctions lifted. they want to have nuclear weapons. whether the administration goes along with okay, you know, the report is that it's going to be a year away before al qaeda -- i mean, before iran gets nuclear weapons, now we find out maybe it's even a month. that's the legacy he's looking for. not al qaeda. he got bin laden. that was the first term. second term he wants to deal with iran. >> k.t. mcfarland, expert on this topic, thank you so much. >>> an alert for you right now. police setting up a perimeter around a movie theater this afternoon. raleigh, north carolina, after an attempted robbery in the area. look at that video. the suspect was subdued. here he is lying face down on the roof. more

weighs wih al-qaeda and a threat to u.s. and allied security, the idea that al shabab may have planned a mumbai type of attack, locking down a major commercial and tourist hub in nairobi for several days is of great concern to the obama administration. the obama administration doesn't have any compunction going after those considered to be a threat, and of course i'm referring to the case of osama bin laden. >> how much threat does al shabab have to american interests? >> there are numerous reports al shabab has been recruiting young men particularly in the minneapolis st. paul area, the largest expatriot community of somalis in the united states for people who are first generation, maybe second generation still trying to deal with the adjustment of the particular lifestyle that we have here in the united states. the idea of someone coming in and using some sort of spiritual inspiration coupled with the ability to use one's fist or more particularly one's semiautomatic rifle is attractive, and because the community has not b

that is why al qaeda and the islamists take hostages. they can make a lot of money far quicker than they can make it by any other means. in the past, they have been successful in doing this. governments have denied that they have carried out negotiations. they subsequently turned out to have paid. in the past, the french government was regarded as a soft touch by many with these organizations. in recent years, over the last government and the current government, things have appeared to be different. the french government's have been taking a much tougher line. whether in this cage money has been paid, we don't know yet. certainly, the french on the surface, the authorities have been taking a tougher line. >> thanks so much for that. thanks to you for watching. stay tuned. we're going to head down to our studio with franÇois picard for the debate and the ongoing coverage of this news that four french hostages who have been held for over three years have indeed been released. franÇois picard, it is up to you now. >> parsons upstairs in t

since then, he has had no contact with al qaeda members. he returns in 2011 to join the revoluti revolution. and has not been involved inter roar in, terror activity he all the allegations are fabrications she says and that he was trying to clear his name and trying to reach out to the u.s. to try and clear his name she says but we did hear from western intelligence officials and were the first to report that she was back to establish a foot? hold for them here and in the area. >> the white house said in a statement that: jill dor ti is at the white house for us. with this statement the white house is answering to its critics about national security. benghazi, critics have said why a year later after benghazi is there nobody in custody. it comes at a time when the u.s. has looked somewhat distracted from it's mission and this is a national security mission that was carried out in pretty spectacular for a you carried out. the president had to cancel this trip to a thea. the u.s. will never stop going after ter rirrorists who carry acts like