reporting live from washington d.c. and of course we'll bring you more details on the shooting incident as soon as we get them here. on r.t. that's our breaking news this hour. thirty people involved in a greenpeace protest have now been charged with piracy by court in russia's north western port city of moments they were arrested after attempting to scale an oil rig in the arctic last month in protest over offshore drilling in the region of greenpeace lawyers are appealing the decision insisting that there was no violence involved and authorities said they pose a serious threat to the security of the platform despite facing up to fifteen years in prison activists are still refusing to give testimony when earlier i spoke to ben alias and he is head of greenpeace is arctic campaign and he believes the region should be off limits for any oil drilling company. but increase has a long history of peaceful protest it was perfectly obvious to the coast guard to the operator of the platform that this was a peaceful protest and

this is the way washington works problem. washington can't do anything. they had two years of meetings and meetings upon meetings and new regulations about the -- they can't manage their way out of a paper bag. the old top down way of doing things in washington, hierarchy can't fix anything. this is the best washington can do. this is the best washington can do and not the worst. so the next election is going to be about that. can we change washington? republicans are going to be the party of change. democrats are going to be the party that says more of the same. >> which republican party will be the party of change? will it be ted cruz party of change? >> the american people will never go back to the status quo where health care is 17% of our gdp. they won't go back to tell women about they existing condition and won't take children on their parents' plan off health care. >> can you take something away from people? can members of congress say, okay, you have this but now we're going to take it away from you? >> it's harder. once you have it, it's much ha

in washington he's a senior fellow at the washington institute also in washington we have michael hughes he is a freelance journalist and foreign policy analyst and in toronto across the forehead is id he's a political science professor at the university of. and our gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i very much encourage it find it's go to you first in town do you believe a word that barack obama has to say given the last thirty years of bad relations between the two countries and i'm talking about covert overt operations up to this day. you know. the last ten years cannot be blamed on obama i think he is responsible for his own presidency and he has been relatively a better president when it comes to iran haven't you compared him to others we have had occasions when the us congress wanted to pass a new sanction against iran and he has opposed those type of sanctions and in his a speech at the un i think he had the couple of good points that was the first time we have heard that from the us president for example he talked about president rouh

he is running against d ct dc cd washington, d.c. he is taking advantage of the new cycle and he looks to be coasting to victory. >> coastalling to victory and setting up a race in 2016. thank you. we appreciate it. that is it from the team here in washington, d.c. and from me david shuster for now. you can keep the discussion going by logging onto the facebook page. you can send us your thoughts on twitter i'm david schuster, thanks for watching. justice. >> >>> over 50 years ago in the early days of the vet no, ma'am war, american forces began using a potent new herbicide known as "agent orange." it was designed to clear forests divid i have provided the vet kong with food. the deadly effects of that poison can be seen in the sickness and disabilities that have affected millions of people and the feeling of shame they have induced in some american vets.

people are completely fed up with washington. a moment when our economic recovery demands more jobs, more momentum, we've got yet another self-inflicted crisis that set economy back, and for what? gwen: for what, indeed. among the questions we'll be tackling tonight but first, the question so many itricans are asking, how did come to this. dan? i thought you'd know the answer to that one. well, i mean, it's been building for a long time, as we threend i think there are elements that came together in this particular moment. one is the growing polarization. we've talked about this repeatedly around this table, twosorting out of the parties. one farther apart from the other long time seen in a and we see that definitely in the house of representatives. vast difference, now, in how people view certain issues, how the two parties view certain issues. there is very little common ground on some of these big issues. ors either we're all for it we're all against it and the third, frankly, is the rise of party and the arrival of a faction

"the washington post" is upset the washington area may lose $200 million per day. good. i want washington to have less money. they are drowning in dough. >> beautiful. >> all glass walls. john: the crisis continues. some of washington shut down the city covered is bear that is why they cannot negotiate. >> tre is no more cuts to make. john: washington must be broke not that you would notice if you would look around. >> consider where they work the architecture is ggand and office buildings resemble thousand. >> it looks like for side before the french revolution their whole lives they spent their life there in did dawn know what happened outside the world that is like washington. john: is that a harsh comparison? knows says david boaz you worked in washington it is like for size. >> it iss great getting richer all the time i bought a house there it you can write it up but prices did not decline when there was a recession and the rest of the country of the jobs are still there and people make a lot of money. john: for a out of five richest counties are in that washington

in washington, d.c. what are the global ramifications according to the president on this? >> reporter: well, david, it's clear the administration is trying to shift the focus from the budget deadlock which hurts the american economy to the global. two weeks from today the government will not have enough money to pay its bills and would default on its debt. we're hearing from officials from the imt, economists, ceo ceos, some of the possible scenarios, the financial markets freak out and they stop lending money. interest rates skyrocket. that's the picture the president was paint be for the audience today. >> obama: the united states is the center of the world economy, if we screw up the everybody gets screwed up. the whole world will have problems. which is why generally ever thought to threaten not to pay our bills. it would be the height of irresponsibility. >> he is also, patty, trying to sell his plan, his high ground, if you like, to the american people. >> reporter: he is. this is what it really co

how should washington be prioritizing these? >> again, that's another real downside of the episode we're living through now is of course the government is shut down and people aren't talking about that. also not talking about tax reform and immigration reform, so these incredibly important policy issues aren't getting dealt with. it's hard to prioritize immigration over tax. obviously, they both ought to get done soon. >> courtney, quickly, are there any bright spots for business in washington? >> i think that there will be p a conclusion that will be helpful for the country. all of these policymakers are here for all the right reasons and standing up for what they believe and trying to accomplish things that are good for the country, so i'm hopeful. >> thank you both so much for your time this morning. >> thank you. >> and that is all for our conversation today, but you can follow it all week long. we'll be back next week. now, stay tuned for president obama's weekly address right after this short break. have a great sunday, ev

. >>> and optimism about a possible washington deal sparked a sizeable u-turn in washington today, the dow released a triple digit loss, good things came in big packages for investors, the small cap stocks and the s&p 400 index of mid-cap companies closing at historic highs. >>> at the end of a breathless day of waiting for any news out of washington, the dow rose 64 points, the nasdaq up 23, and the s&p added seven points. >>> and joining us now to talk more about the latest developments in washington and what the uncertainty means for the washington and the economy is the chief strategist. greg, good to have you with us. you heard what john harwood just said. i would like you to add to that if you know of anything that is different. a week or so ago there was talk we were not going to negotiate anything having to do with obama care as part of any deal to raise the debt borrowing limit or reopen the government. and what john just described is there would be some movement on income verification as part of obama care, and the tax on unions, that they found objectionable is going to go a

. >>> stocks pounded as the great divide in washington escalates, investors are paying the price. the s&p and nasdaq hit the worst day in six weeks. the dow off 900 points from the record september high. >> earnings underway, two big s&p 500 companies reported profits late today but how much did the results and outlooks matter to the market when washington is such a huge concern? >> and hitten debt storm, there is a developing crisis larger than detroit, this time puerto rico and if you think it doesn't affect you, look at your mutual fund. you may puerto rico funds and not know it. we have that and more on nightly business report for tuesday, october 8th. >>> good evening everyone and welcome. the war of words heated up and stocks and bonds cooled off again today with today's losses driven by the freezeup in washington over the debt limit and government shutdown, the dow shed all of september's gains. it's down a staggering 900 points from the all-time closing high hit just three weeks ago. that's nearly 6% and today was the worst day in six weeks for the s&p 500 and nasdaq. that

it's all about the republicans people are not happy with washington d.c. let granite unlike you all i will admit that there were there people are not going to the public and then i have to the democrats all i'm saying is during this presidency there's been more of a stalemate and problems than any other time certainly with president bush and president clinton ok you know patricia i kind of like that you know passing the buck because obama got stuck holding the bag here over because of what's been done for the last fifty years sixty years in the united states and he got caught with it ok i don't see it as being different parties involved here it's more a way of governing the economy and foreign policy we haven't mentioned that too much here but it's just he got caught with it and now hard decisions have to be made well yeah i mean we've gone into debt because we've had two wars over the last twelve years and one in iraq and afghanistan in case we've forgotten about that and that seems to have been forgotten by you know a lot of the tea party members those w

don't have any right around washington. that is a live view from our city camera early on this friday morning. right now around the region with that fog we have temperatures down to near 60 degrees around the metro area and it is down in the mid to upper 50s where the fog lingers. it will be around for another couple of hours, then by noontime partly cloudy, the low 80s. we should be hitting the upper 80s by midafternoon. certainly feeling summerlike in october. and then are for your friday evening, partly cloudy. we'll be in the 70s through the evening. into next week, that's all coming in ten minutes. now, danella, how is traffic? >>> good morning, tom. keeping my eye on a couple of trouble spots, keep in mind your eastbound lanes of constitution avenue still shut down between first and second street while police are investigating. over to the beltway traveling the inner loop, ramp to i-66 heading eastbound inside the beltway here as you travel there be aware there's an accident but luckily it's off to the shoulder lane.

is fresh revelations of spying european leaders force them to reconsider their partnerships with washington now france and germany are demanding talks with the u.s. on this issue by the end of the year that followed reports that the n.s.a. has monitoring chancellor merkel's mobile phone and calls made by the french administration the latest on a single leak has shown that the agency encouraged u.s. government officials to hand over their contact list and used that data to eavesdrop on the conversations of thirty five world leaders well european council has issued a statement warning that a lack of trust with washington could damage cooperation and intelligence gathering on top of that germany has decided to team up with brazil which was also targeted by the n.s.a. to push for a u.n. resolution restraining u.s. surveillance r.t.s. are silly as more on the story. the latest document that edward snowden there provided the guardian we do see some some more insight into the process of how this global surveillance was actually working and the fact that it had spied on the thirty five world leader

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and there's talk around washington in recent days, just because washington reached that point doesn't mean that the nation would go into that default. secretary jack lu said that there's no reason to take that chance. it's territory that has never been traded before. and there would be serious consequences at home and around the nation. >> the fact that speaker boehner is going to be holding this news conference, does that mean that the republicans blinked? >> we're going to see exactly what the speaker is going to propose. until today, he insisted that any raising of the debt ceiling by the house of representatives would have to be bined by action on reducing the nation's debt. doing something about long-term deficit financing. the president has said that he wants a clean debt ceiling raise. so we think that speaker boehner is trying to sell members of his caucus on the debt ceiling, and not opening the government until something is added to it, by the affordable care act or other budgetary measures. >> and randall, it appears that the affordable care act, all of that may not be a th

live from washington d.c. i mean he said now with special coverage of the government shutdown now the deadline to block will has possibly come to an end america just barely avoiding default and agreeing to raise the debt ceiling at the last minute so the u.s. can keep borrowing beyond its almost seventeen trillion dollars in debt well sixteen days of a government shutdown halted the capital to a standstill put hundreds of thousands of workers out of jobs and the world economy on the verge of recession this deal would reopen the government and fund it until january fifteenth allowing it to continue borrowing until february the seventh so really it's just a temporary fix well to discuss this joining me are gerald levin publisher of the journal and curtis ellis executive director of american jobs alliance in london we have mr keith boy field a researcher for the center for policy studies and here in ross washington with me is neil mccabe senior reporter at human events thank you all very much for joining me i wan

is are they obeying washington. you know us as a record of killing suspected terrorists was drones and this time it seems like the u.s. has taken a different approach by putting the boots on the ground why do you think that happened and why is attacks it's different this time i think obama's trying to look a little stronger and also the drone attacks have lost a lot of credibility a lot of times they say they killed him to kill or member of al qaeda hierarchy and then that person turns out to still be alive which begs the question who do they actually kill they've also accidentally or not killing a lot of civilians with drones. then they've been doing the double tap in pakistan and yemen where they actually have been attacking. the responders who come and so a lot of americans are opposed to drone attacks and maybe that boots on the ground was a tactical switch as much to feed the public in the u.s. as it was to actually be effective. compare the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi which killed four american di

we left washington ecma four, 1961, 13 of us. to test a division of the united states supreme court. been in segregation on public transportation. my seatmate on the greyhound bus from washington d.c., you must understand and 1961, black people in white people couldn't be seated together. .. assist the charges against him. well, for the two of us we arrived at a little greyhound bus station in south carolina. a group of white men met us in the doorway and started beating us and left us lobbying in a pool of blood and the officials came up and wanted to know whether we wanted to press charges. we said no we believe and of love and peace and nonviolence. i didn't know at that time may 9th, 1961 that this man was wilson, years later in february february 09 after president barack obama had been inaugurated he came to my office on capitol hill to seek out the peace grown. mr. lewis, will you forgive me? i want to apologize. i'm sorry. they hugged me. i hugged them back and i saw him since then he recently passed. but it demonstrated t

[laughter] they are people who made washington work for them. jimmy is a socialite and kurt is a longtime aide to congressman darrell ice that describes himself but as an opportunist. not the although raised on the politics of west wing the media culture literally in griffin came to washington and found the father figure with darrell i said it was so completely a neighbor with his own narrative that he felt the need to tell me all about it . . ready males these are written by members of congress and eventually he was fired and is in chapter eight. but those who are extremely powerful whether president to the united states nor senate majority leader harry reid or the next governor of virginia and again is at looks at the entire world people who tried to scramble to the top of the pecking order. >> you have made the point that despite the fact people say washington is divided as though interconnected and the players that have that connection it goes without saying that washingtonians don't know these people that they are fully divorced so not so m

washington is still dysfunctional. how exposed do you want to be to this market or to this economy if you feel like the longer term picture is getting worse? >> i don't know. it depends on whether you think that, a, the people in d.c. are going to let us go over theboro verbial cliff. there's still a big bet that people think that's not going to happen. if you think it's going to happen, it changes your entire mindset about where you want to be in the market. >> i think tina fordham at citi puts it nicely, she calls it the near heart attack. you're going to keep getting these moments where there's big jumps and a selloff. >> but the market is not believing anymore. i would argue they're almost -- i'll believe it when i see it if you guys really are going -- you're terrible, we hate you but you're not that stupid. that at least seems to be -- >> i wonder what the 300-point rally will do to the whole conversation. it may have the same kind of impact as a decline would. now the pressure is on. you don't want to give it ba

maker it's not the words are not just coming out of out of riyadh itself they're they're coming out of washington because prince turki just gave a very fiery speech and defiant speech. at a conference here a couple of days ago. i think there are two schools of thought one school of thought here believes that it is mainly bluster that. saudi arabia is so closely entangled particularly on the military and security front with the united states that it really can't sue for divorce but there are others who believe that saudi arabia is really quite serious and that it's looking for other foreign partners great powers including for example russia itself to wean itself away from washington over the long term and that there is a strategic decision is either about to be made or has already been made to diversify the sources of its particularly of its security james i mean if there is some kind of diversification diversify to where to whom. i mean what other superpower is there so i think you know i do think the united states ought to take this seriously because quite honestly the saudis don't do this very

dagen: peter barnes is standing by in washington. i want you to answer a question, wilraise a moment ago. is something doable y thursday? can i get something done based on the way they have to move forward? >> i think so. there are some similar days between the house proposals we are about to hear from speaker boehner. as connell was talking about some proposals. they share some common components, but it looks like there could be some compromise for a one-year delay on the medical device tax which was taken any delay was taken out of the senate bill, but it is the house republicans proposing a two-year delay. that is grounds for a compromise. we just got a statement from the white house about these developments and the newest house republican proposal according to white house spokesperson, the president has said repeatedly the members of congress don't get to demand ransom for fulfilling the basic response abilities to pass a budget and pay the nation's bills. the latest proposal from house republicans does just that in a partisan at

this, to me, is an epic battle over washington versus america. and i hope america wins. >> it's almost three weeks now. it started largely because house republicans kept on passing the measured that had some kind of direct impact on obama care and the senate would not take that up. you're still talking about it, sounds like insisting on those measures. they're still a requirement for you to pass anything? >> you mentioned that that was republicans. the last proposal that we submitted to the president, which he rejected was that we delayed the individual mandate, allow it to be voluntary, allow it to keep going but voluntary for americans like it is for big business and then get rid of the special dispen sags created for members of congress. that measure had a bunch of democrats on our vote. i think it's reasonable. i think that ultimately the american people are speaking very loudly about trying to get some relief and i think we ought to give it to them. >> last question. better than fifty-fifty chance that we'll get out of this by thursday? or d

susan mcginnis is in washington. susan, good morning. >> anne-marie, good morning, the president says he will push congress to reopen as soon as possible but when that happens is anybody's guess. for now, the gridlock this morning will continue here on capitol hill, as hundreds of thousands of federal workers find out that at least for now they're out of work. >> mr. speaker, it is now midnight, and the great government of the united states is now closed. >> reporter: congress bickered to the very end and missed a deadline to pass a new budget for the start of the fiscal year. >> the congress of chronic chaos continues. >> reporter: lawmakers left the capitol for a fe hours' sleep. they'll be back this morning. >> hope to reopen it tomorrow. >> reporter: the disagreement is whether the changes in the affordable care act should be part of a bill to fund the government. >> the house has voted to keep the government open. but we also want basic fairness for all americans under obama care. >> it is embarrassing that thes

they totally took over washington. i wanted to talk to cory booker as this young up and coming future star democratic politician about what that meant for him, what that meant for the party and whether that signalled some sort of larger shift in our country's politics. >> even in my state, i met republicans who were so excited about voting for barack obama not because he was a democrat, not because he was a black guy, but because they thought he was going to lift our country to our highest aspirations for ourselves. i think obama has a prague malt tichl about him, he will explain ideas to the american people not using the tired eld liberal par lance. he will be explaining to people in a way that touches people's hearts and compel them to act and work with us. >> just a few months later, even before barack obama was sworn in as president, republicans in washington decided that they would not work with him on anything during his presidency. nothing, no matter what. they voted unanimously against the president's first big

so it's good. >> here in washington, d.c., your district is in washington state. you're a mother, wife, representative, part of the leadership. how do you juggle it all? >> a whole team of people, i often say, that make it possible. i might be out front. but first of all, the tremendous support of my husband. retired from the navy. never been married, never been a dad. dreaming of that happening in his life. now he didn't necessarily imagine living in washington, d.c. and being mr. mom. but he is embracing this at this time in our lives and is -- i couldn't ask for more support from brian. >> how did you meet him? >> i met him at a canteen barbecue right at -- it was the summer after i was elected to congress. his sister had worked on my campaign. and she invited him to this campaign barbecue to introduce me to another volunteer's daughter. and at the end of the evening, he said, maureen, i think i would like to meet kathy. so that is how we met. then we started corresponding. the first date was up at the naval academy. he's a naval academy grad. and he invited me

jonathan allen at the "washington post," the "washington post" bureau chief at politico is up right now. ted cruz seems to be doubling down in the insanity and telling us this thing is nowhere near over? >> your words not mine, tour'e. but i believe this is nowhere near over. you mentioned ted yoho and yolo, he's taking a risk that republicans will only live once in terms of political fates if there's a debt ceiling crisis. and they are blamed by the american public. similarly for the president if he ends taking the blame, that could hurt his legacy. >> omg, i love seeing you use yolo in your political analysis. >> it's a rainy monday in washington, what can i do? >> you have to find the freshness where you can get it. what i want to ask you about specifically is john cornyn who is the whip of the republicans in the senate. and take a look at what he just said, i'll read to you, on the question of a clean debt ceiling he said never has happened and never is going to happen. that was just this week. earlier this year in january he said we'll raise the debt ceiling, we're not going to def

he will be joining us live from washington, d.c., and talking about the financial implications in washington and hot it directly effecting your wallet. >>> there are no reports of any casualties or damage as an earthquake rocked papua new guinea. it struck the eastern part of the nation. earthquakes are common there. >>> eastern india is dealing with flooding left behind by cyclone phailin. thousands of people remain stranded by the flood waters left behind. in that government working to get food and other aid to the effected areas. the cyclone has been blamed for at least 23 deaths. >>> in japan at least 17 people are dead after that typhoon hit that coast. japanese government has promised to do all it can to find the missing and help survivors. eboni deon has been tracking the typhoon, eboni. >>> as it continues to lift to the north you can see a lot of the convextive activity has waned. so we're not seeing the rain action, but still some elevated seas, and still some wind gusts being felt here, but as for now it looks like it is continuing to weaken as it pushes off to the north. of cours

the in human rights in saudi arabia and we cross to jim lobe he is the washington bureau chief for into press service and publisher of loeb log dot com close up rules if i mean you can jump in anytime you want jim if i go to you first in washington these words coming out of riyadh is that bluster i mean the united states and saudi arabia are attached at the hip and they have been for for decades it's just words coming out of riyadh well i don't think i have any particular insight into what what king abdullah is thinking and obviously he's kind of the supreme decision maker it's not the words are not just coming out of out of riyadh itself they're they're coming out of washington because prince turki just gave a very fiery speech and defiant speech. at a conference here a couple of days ago. i think there are two schools of thought one school of thought here believes that it is mainly bluster that. saudi arabia is so closely and tangled particularly on the military and security front with the united states that it really can't sue for divorce but there are others who believe that saudi a

do you thing what the guys are doing in washington, republicans are doing in washington, a good idea. shutting down the government. he had to dodge those things. he couldn't say, as you would expect, he would, you would want to if you are coming to washington to meet with the troops. yeah, they're doing great. i'm behind them on everything they're pushing here. >> yeah, i don't know why he wanted to cozy up to the stench of this. >> exactly. >> doesn't make sense on a political matter. and you know -- christie already is having trouble with the dynamic obviously. dating back to the election in which he was accused and criticized i thought wrongly at the time for cozying up to obama with respect to hurricane sandy recovery. he should have known this would dog him again. not sure why he came here. obviously entertained questions on it. but the broader problems, affecting the republican party are much greater than that. what we have right now is a complete division, between the pragmatists, and the idea logs. nicole was right. a bankrupt strategy. what they could do tactically. right now

. >>> and optimism about a possible washington deal sparked a sizeable u-turn in washington today, the dow released a triple digit loss, good things came in big packages for investors, the small cap stocks and the s&p 400 index of mid-cap companies closing at historic highs. >>> at the end of a breathless day of waiting for any news out of washington, the dow rose 64 points, the nasdaq up 23, and the s&p added seven points. >>> and joining us now to talk more about the latest developments in washington and what the uncertainty means for the washington and the economy is the chief strategist. greg, good to have you with us. you heard what john harwood just said. i would like you to add to that if you know of anything that is different. a week or so ago there was talk we were not going to negotiate anything having to do with obama care as part of any deal to raise the debt borrowing limit or reopen the government. and what john just described is there would be some movement on income verification as part of obama care, and the tax on unions, that they found objectionable is going to go a

has much to be proud of none of the core issues at the heart of this deadlock have been dealt with washington gridlock issues like that can't be kicked down the road. has a new alert. scared me a little. there is breaking news tonight and we are continuing to follow the breaking news. alexander's family cry here is a. great thing. that. we have. found. is a story. playing out in real life. hello and welcome to crossfire all things considered i'm peter lavelle crisis averted at least for now washington's dangerous and even the responsible political circus has taken a time out with barack obama still standing however nine of the president nor congress have much to be proud of none of the core issues at the heart of this deadlock have been dealt with washington gridlock issues like they can't be kicked down the road . to cross the american fiscal crisis i'm joined by philip wallach in washington he's a fellow in governance studies at the brookings institution in new york we have less polled he is the director of the labor institute and author of how to make a million dollars an hour how hedge fu

investors are watching every word out of washington. yesterday comments ranged from flirting with a debt default disaster to a possible temporary solution. the market took off thursday-- as investors and traders stepped in to buy stocks as glimmers of hope begain to surface that a gop plan was in the works. surrounded by republican leaders-- speaker of the house john boehner presented a what he called an offer that would give the president the ability to move forward. a temporary increase in the debt ceiling in agreement to go to conference on the budget for his willingness to sit down and discuss with us a way forward to re-open the government and to start to deal with america's pressing problems. those words triggered one of the biggest rallys of the year with the dow up more than 300 points. also from washington, secretary jack lew warned a senate committe against making an 11th decision on the debt ceiling, by reminding them what happend the last minute decison in 2011. "we had the damage, we had the drop in the market, we had the h

is concerned but it now looks like riyadh is really telling washington what to do and essentially what they're saying is either you play by our rules on our home turf or else isn't that a kind of a veiled strath saudi arabia has been a very important ally and i think they will also continue to be an ally but they will i think more independently pursue their own national interests i think they will do so more publicly and i think they feel more of a burden now to represent at least the gulf arab world in foreign policy and military affairs particularly those that affect their region well but they're not just representing foreign policy affairs in that region that actively influencing those affairs and i think the the events in libya and syria and egypt are very. illustrative testament to that but ambassador jordan the what leverage does the united states really have of the saudi arabia you seem to move from one death crisis to the next they're awash with money you need that oil they are the ones who are setting the prices if you say no they turn around and walk to the chinese isn't it t

speaking its mind and threatening to pursue a number of policy departures regarding its relationship with washington refraining from a coveted seat on the united nations security council the soviets are furious over washington stance on syria and the failure to support a meaningful peace process in the town for the palestinians the kingdom of saudi is going out on its own but where. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images her world has been seeing from the streets of canada. giant corporations are today. hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered on peter lavelle the saudi pivot riyadi speaking its mind in threatening to pursue a number of policy departures regarding its relationship with washington refraining from a coveted seat on the united nations security council the saudis are furious over washington stance on syria approaches to iran and the failure to support a meaningful peace process on behalf of the palestinians the kingdom of saudi is going out on its own but where. to cross-talk saudi arabia's foreign policy i'm joined by my guest in w

was a pretty silent day in washington. what would be the timeline of a deal or a frame work for a deal over the next few days? could we expect? >> we know the house of representatives is coming in tomorrow. they will be here at 9:00 a.m. congressmen hate to workweek ends, so they will want to work this as quickly as possible and we know the deadline is thursday next week. that's the day the treasury said it will run out of money and we'll hit the debt ceiling limit. so presumably between monday and thursday is the sweet spot for getting a deal done if they get one and it looks like the dynamic is they are actually talking to one another, although the white house is bending over backwards to avoid saying they are negotiating because of course, the president promised he wasn't going to negotiate. nonetheless, he was in a room with republicans talking about something, whether negotiation or not, that's up to you. >> e mmon, two back to back day of triple digit gains. to what extent does that make them come up with a deal beca

gwen: a lot of republicans in washington are saying don't link me to republicans in washington. >> but the ones taking a stand in washington are saying we are with -- the true conservatives. bobby ginnedal is saying no, it isn't. gwen: the next big fight, the debt limit. these things have been wrapped up together but this, it seems to me to be the fight that the administration is most worried about. >> this is the fight that's most consequential. this is the fight that could plunge the country into recession and it's coming up within two weeks. gwen: and that's generally accepted. to be fair, this is something john boehner says he does not want. >> absolutely. that's the vice grip boehner is in. he said he recognizes he cannot -- we cannot default, that the debt limit needs go up but he said eneed something with that and by shifting what he wants in return for that, he has put himself in this box or the house republicans have put themselves in this box. it's very difficult because the president, looking at the republicans grabbing this or that to try to issue as a demand is saying no,

and you see it exacerbated here in washington. but the same point in time, you have a vast middle out there in terms of ideology and issues so the partisanship isn't matching up to the ideology and the issues so while washington is the worst example of partisanship, those americans in the middle of the 50%, you know, kind of seem somewhat lost in this. you know, i think they feel like there's chaos in washington and frustration they can't get anything done. >> right. that's the thing. like, what is the goal? you know, there's fighting in washington and just seems to a lot of moms and voters that the fighting is just -- it has no purpose. it's an end of itself. it's partisan bickering without trying to accomplish something to help people. >> right. i found this all fascinating. i enjoyed listening to the women say, you know, one of the things i care about deeply, voting, staying engaged and sounded like that's something that they were going to stay engained nor 2014 and interesting to see -- i wish we had more time and interesting

what a week it was in washington. before we talk to jack lew and senator coburn, i'm here with our panel, david brooks, e.j.dionne, andrea mitchell and maria bartiromo who celebrated her 20th year in washington. congratulations. >> thank you. >> first takes from everybody. what has changed after this dramatic week? >> i think the republicans may tire of doing faceplants, so i think the modern concessions that exist may have had a little manhood injection. they need to stand up to the tea party and be a little more modern party, or more realistic party. >> i think the era of the tea party is over. we wasted 12 to 15 billi$15 bil political action that was designed to win by intimidation. we have an abnormal government for the first time since the elections. >> the economy takes a hit. probably about six-tenths of a percent. we go into the fourth quarter weaker than we wanted, and that is an important part of the year, holiday spending. number two, federal reserve tapering probably off the table for 2013. probably off th

i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the president's messaging on health care coupled with a faulty website had the white house on defense and the nation very skeptical about how this government can tackle big issues going forward. massachusetts governor duvall patrick joins us, home of the red sox. >> that's right. >> tem plate for the president's health care law. more on that in a moment but first, congratulations. >> thank you, andrea, we're excited. a little sleepy, too. >> quite a night of celebration for a lot of people. we stayed up to watch it but we weren't in the streets. how does it feel in boston and how important was this series victory to restoring hope and a sense of confidence and resilience as mike barnicle was saying this morning. >> the first game of the season, if i remembered right, was at the very end of that terrible week after the marathon bombing. to have the team have such an incredible season, such a turnaround from last season. to sum nature this way is affirming. really exciting. a parade in

washington has moved on from. it makes me fearous. >> david, are you still in the white house, how would you handle this website crisis of which there are two parts. one is the public discussion of it. and the management and the public discussion of it from the white house perspective. then actually fixing the problem, which is of course the much more important part. >> that is the most important part of it. if i was in the white house. as i'm sure they are, kicking a bunch of folks in the butt every day to make sure that what need to be done is being done. i think they also need to be -- they need to beep for forthcomih the public. report on a regular basis as the to the progress is being made. problems that are being addressed. so people understand there is work underway. this has been shrouded in mystery. i don't quite understhand why that is. i think it is better to be straight forward about it. you know people, on the cover of "the washington post" today. front paige of tge of "the wash post," the website for

washington what do you got? >> democratic leaders down here to meet with president obama. we just heard on the hill, this was the development in the last hour, they have essentially rejected a plan put forward by susan collins to increase the debt ceiling. this is a plan by collins, who is really one of the more moderate republicans in the senate. the white house, and officials here saying it's not that they rejected it, but they think it neither works or changes, but at the same time white house officials are not being specific at all about what they would be amenable to, other than a clear increase in the debt ceiling and the reopening of the government at this point. we're really waiting to see -- one official told me it's just a check-in, so it's unclear if there's anything substantive other than they're getting together really trying to see what the state of play is. things are very uncertainly at this point, as we stare down this deadline come thursday, october 17th. >> there is the question, whether this

neil: washington is on hpv don't get wrong. the government shut down, and when these incidents happen tickets everyone is a panic mode. really and truly, sheila jackson lee is known for her awkward sort ofching statements. she called the tea party years part of the complex plan. she said that hurricane names are lily white and should be more african-american like. i mean, she makes these comments the system makes sense. i have to tell you, democrats are feeling exhausted, exasperated. we saw this with senator reid many and an interview with cnn reporter dan-recess, why would i want to take care of it one child cancer patient? so again, i think that it is putting a lot of stress on all of the congressman, but in particular the democrats because of the fact that they are just cross in their arms and refusing to talk with republicans. neil: well, republicans did kind of produces pickle. i can understand. but the one thing that will say, we have to get data this. is this the kind of language that is going to foster that? >> of cour