ebola. we have also provided the august 27th dallas county health department algorithm and screening questionnaire. at 10:30 p.m. on september 25th, mr. duncan presented to texas health presbyterian dallas emergency department with a fever of 100.1. abdominal pain, dizziness, nausea and headache. systems that could be associated with many other illnesses. he was examined and underwent numerous tests over a period of four hours. during his time in the e.d. his temperature spiked to 103 degrees fahrenheit but dropped to 101.2. he was discharged early on the morning of september 26th and we have provided a timeline on the notable events of mr. duncan's initial emergency department visit. on september 28th, mr. duncan was transported to the hospital by ambulance. once he arrived at the hospital he met several of the criteria of the ebola algorithm. at that time -- >> i'm wolf blitzer in washington. we will monitor this hearing and get back to it. it's 1:00 p.m. in washington, 7:00 p.m. in brusse

response to ebola. ron klain's resume mainly consists of being former chief of staff to vice president joe biden. with more n this, chief economist for the heritage foundation, dr. scott gottlieb, now with the american enterprise institute, and paul howard, a scholar at the manhattan institute. welcome all. i'm going to start with you and ron klain, longtime political operative, democratic aide, worked for gore, biden, janet reno, you name it, represented fannie mae as a lobbyist. is he the right guy to coordinate our efforts. >> probably not. we need a competency czar, someone who knows how to run things and makes things work in washington. but this is really the pattern of almost all the high-level appointees in almost every department of the obama administration, they are people who are political in nature who share the president's ideology and the president has the right to do that, to put people in charge who share his beliefs. but they're not people who know how to manage anything. that's one of t

ebola czar. our senior white house correspondent jim acosta is following the story. seems like there's been a shift in white house strategy as far as the ebola czar is considered over the past few days? >> reporter: a big shift. and the white house is not calling ron klain a czar. he's what they're calling the, quote, ebola response coordinator. and unlike a czar, klain will not be his own boss. hammered for days over its lack of ebola leadership, the white house is confident a remedy is now in place. >> we've got an all hands on deck approach across government to make sure that we are keeping the american people safe. >> reporter: the latest hands on deck, ron klain, tapped to become the president's ebola response coordinator, a former chief of staff to both vice presidents joe biden and al gore, klain was made famous during the 2000 election recount and the film that followed. >> mr. vice president, our battle is not yet done. >> reporter: but klain has no medical experience. what does ron klai

and ebola has even broken into the music industry. ♪ is it ebola is it ebola ♪ >> reporter: this artist changing the words to lola. with ebola everybody wants to know if they have it. if so, how to cure it? >> everyone knows ebola kills. what exactly does it do? >> reporter: the new york giants playing the dallas cowboys on sunday got a class on ebola 101. although some have suggested the giants can't catch anything. let alone ebola. but there is a lot of information you can't trust. any time people are scared of something it often helps to talk about it in some way. >> reporter: case in point. watch this spoof from a recent "saturday night live." >> i'm sticking with you no matter what kind of cancer you have. >> i don't have cancer. i have ebola. >> oh. >> reporter: or south park comparing the ebola scare to the fear of gluten. >> we have word of a possible gluten exposure in your home. >> after nina pham was diagnosed with ebola, her quarantined dog has become a household name. bentley has a health care provider suited up from head to toe. those protective suits aren't just for healt

the federal response to ebola. president obama is offering federal support is new york as it responds to its first ebola case. he spoke thursday night to mayor bill de blasio. [inaudible conversations] >> ladies and gentlemen, before i gavel this to a starlet, i think you already -- to a start, i think you already heard, please put your cell phones either off or preferably on airplane mode. you're certainly welcome to take pictures as long as you don't stand up or in any other way block other people. we have a large panel today, members have flown in from all over the country to hear these people and to ask questions, so the only thing i ask is that, please, give them all the opportunity to do that. .. the taxpayers want to be safe. the taxpayers want to know that our government is prepared. in this case, we leave no stone unturned in an shoring and shoring today that america is planning for tomorrow. beginning in march of 2014 in the west african nation the world first learned about yet another new outbreak of the

but ebola's very unusual. and looking after it requires a very particular set of procedures with protective gear. we have two questions about the protect give gear, one is the cdc protocol good enough, even if you do the protocol perfectly, is it good enough? i think the answer is probably not. bear in mind if you work for a charity in africa you would be wearing more protective equipment than either of these nurses was wearing. >> and what -- go ahead. >> that's fine. you go ahead. >> this question about hospital-acquired infections. even on a perfect day, you have hospitals in the united and in europe, quite frankly, that have trouble stopping hospital-acquired infections. this particular case is really, really stunning. you're talking liters and liters of body fluids coming out of this patient who is highly, highly contagious. if they can't control these kinds of -- if they can't control bugs on a regular day, do they have what it takes to control something like this? >> what i say, the current things we're

they don't have an ebola problem, they have a political problem about ebola. therefore it makes sense that you would have a political fixer, which is what ron klain is. he's not famous for being joe biden's chief of staff. that's not exactly the a-number-one job in washington. the thing he's famous for is in 2000 he tried to save the election for al gore down in florida. and i can promise you this, counselor, if kevin spacey has played you in the you are not the guy who is going to be dr. killdare. you are there to fix a political problem. and that's what ron klain's there to do. >> i mean, is it a little on the nose? we've seen the administration go full political before in response to a crisis. but maybe there'd be a little window dressing? maybe he'd at least have an m.d., maybe did a stint at the cdc or some place. this is so obvious this is a political choice. >> but wait, it's the same in many ways as with what's gone on with the islamist militants in iran and syria. we've got this under control, you people are overreacting, overreacting until the politi

ebola? is it safe to be -- is it better to be safe than sorry? tonight we're going to separate ebola fact from fiction. but i want to begin with our breaking news. fears of another ebola case in maryland. cnn's dr. sanjay gupta is in atlanta. miguel marquez is in bellevue hospital, at bellevue hospital right here in new york, where a 5-year-old tested negative for ebola today. sanjay, let's begin with you. what can you tell us about this new story coming out of maryland tonight? >> well, it's sort of an ongoing situation, don. the university of maryland medical center has accepted a patient at the direction of the department of public health over there for assessment. so this sounds like someone obviously they're concerned about. we don't know why, what has sort of sparked those concerns necessarily. we also don't know if they have ebola. they're going to be assessed and eventually see if they have symptoms and be tested is my guess. but we'll probably have more information over the next cou

. >> the ebola case is more than -- >> ebola in the big apple. >> ebola in new york city tonight could it also be in new jersey. >> it arrived via a doctor. was the doctor contagious when he went bowling. >> who knows whether i used the bathrooms. >> came down with 10 fever. >> this disease is fierce. did his actions put the public at risk? >> see, calm, cool and catch that doctor and kill him! >> all right, i guess in new york lost our heads for a second. >> jon: a doctor who6 treat eba cases got himself ebola and [bleep] his way through the "sex and the city" tour in manhattan with 103 degree fever. >> we were told yesterday that it was 10 it was actually 100.3. >> jon: didn't anyone treating him double check it and see? that he had a fever of 100.3? because from the looks of it this man is -- all right. so maybe -- nice to have an older audience. all right. so maybe this doctor gallivanted around the city, how much gallivanting could one guy with ebola do in just a day or two? >> tuesday spencer felt sluggish. the next day feeling well enough for a three mile jog stopping at blue b

is ebola as contagious as a patient with ebola? and waste from is not particularly hearty, and it can be destroyed by autoclaving and by combination of different chemicals. >> is it different from other medical wastes? >> you want to be certain when you are getting rid of it that -- >> is the cdc assessing the medical waste of ebola patients and does the cdc allow off-site disposal of ebola medical waste? with thek very closely department of transportation and the commercial waste management companies to ensure that capability. danger inave an added having to truck this waste and move it to facilities. in theemployees processing centers being trained in how to dispose of this waste? >> we have detailed guidelines as to how to dispose of this waste from ebola patients. >> you and i talked about the troops from fort campbell who are going to be over there. and i have questions from some of my constituents. are the american troops going to come in contact with any ebola patients or with those exposed to ebola or those included with an

we know about ebola. cdc has an entire group of professionals who spend their entire careers working on ebola. they stop outbreaks all the time. outbreaktopped every except the current one in africa. there is zero doubt in my mind that are in a mutation there in thet be an outbreak u.s.. it warrants attention but it's important to put it in perspective. >> i agree. additionaly authority that cdc would find helpful in conducting your responsibilities. specific authority that would make it easier to do your job? >> we are looking at a variety of things, procurement, for example, to see if there are changes that might allow us to respond more quickly and effectively. >> thank you. i yield back. fore recognize mr. johnson five minutes. >> thank you for being here. thank all of you on the panel for being here today. politics orabout international diplomacy. this is about public health and protecting the safety of the american people, particularly our health care workers who are some of the high risk folks to b

we talk about ebola. tens of thousands of people die from the flu every year and from a numbers standpoint a much more dangerous concern. >> and with the enterovirus. >> and just now they were looking at the statistics and download guidance on how to deal with a ebola patient. which is a wake-up call but frightening that the hospitals are just waking up now and going to download the information. >> i agree. and drew was spot on when he said it is not about bells and whistles, it is about training and good practice. so cdc is clear that any hospital with meticulous infection control in a single room with a private bathroom can take care of the patients, but i think what this experience teaches us, is that if you have an option, you are better served in a meticulous infection control that has drilled for that for years is concerned about the safety of the patients, employees and community and link not the infection control, but think about meticulous case management. you need to protect the community and th

to you ebola? >> yes. >> when you heard that what did you think? >> i was scared. i was so scared. >> how did you find out he had ebola? >> they called me, the cdc health department called me and told me he had ebola. >> so what did they tell you that you needed to do? >> to stay home, stay home and monitor my family, take the temperature, they're going to be monitoring all of us. my family should stay home, my nephew, everybody should stay home for 21 days. and we should not have to come outside, if we have to come outside, not further -- >> what did you think when you heard that? >> scared. >> and have you gone outside? >> no, i'm inside, they did not bring food here, they're going to take us to court. that we have committed a crime. they have not offered us any food, any food. >> and again, you're going to hear this in the next part of the interview. the sheets that mr. duncan used, sweated on, those sheets are still on the bed in her apartment. the pillow cases are still there, the soiled towel

, thesymptoms of travel history that is there for ebola and how to detect ebola infections. we on our website have provided facilities and guidance on how to do this and how ded guidance on facilities and physicians should who they individual think is suspected of ebola and how they can place them in so they immediately don't infect others and we have testing for ebola diagnostics around the country offer 24/7 consultative services for people who have uestions about how to handle suspect suspected and /* >> and the public is trying to what happened? and i we have to somehow provide level of confidence to the the difference is still part of the system. other help me if not members of the committee with the response for that? will. ebola untreated ebola 50-90% more talt of including a number of factors including the age of the person. to -- we have d treatingxperience with our developedtern and the outcomes are did he pen tkabt on a number do actors and a lot have to with preexisting illness with the patient and how quickly on of symptoms the patient received therapy and so it

ebola is not like the flu. ebola is not transmitted through the air. ebola is not transmitted through the food that we eat in this country and it's not transmitted through the water that we drink in this country. the only way an individual can get ebola is by coming into close contact with the bodily fluids of an individual that's already exhibiting symptoms of ebola. that's why in this case tragically we've seen two health care workers that were obviously in very close contact with the index ebola patient contract this virus. how exactly that transmission occurred is something that remains under investigation, but the risk to which they were exposed was elevated by the fact that they were in close contact with this patient trying to meet that person's medical needs. okay. >> to follow up. the president used the word epidemic. yesterday you used the word outbreak. that's something exceedingly chances are low. isn't what we have in dallas now outbreak, multiple transmissions? >> well, i think there's a medical professional who could give you a specific

or spreading ebola is very low. once he started having fever, it change quite a bit. there's concern he was in public places but at that time he didn't have any symptoms. once he had symptoms, he was immediately taken to bellevue. >> we should note he's been following protocol and there's no reason at this moment to believe there's any reason to worry. however, there's a science and there's a social aspect to pit .science says don't worry, it won't happen. but now we're seeing the place is going to be cleaned. the uber taxi that he took didn't need that level of cleaning because there was no direct contact. however, we don't know what's going to happen when the tabloids post it on the front pages tomorrow. should the cdc more strict? should there be a mandatory quarantine for these medics returning from west africa? if nothing else, not to add fuel for the fearful fire already burning in so many places? >> if we say there should be a mandatory 21-day quarantine, there are other risks for that as well. many folks may

for ebola and is now ebola free. and i want to go live right now to bethesda, maryland and i think that's nina pham on the right side of dr. fauci, walking out on her own two feet, no haz-mat suit. and let's listen in. >> good morning, everyone. i'm francis collins, the director of the national institutes for health. and it's my privilege and pleasure to welcome you into the life of this remarkable institution. nih. and you have noticed the guest of honor. the most [ inaudible ] way to contain the spread of ebola. and also [ inaudible ] so >> remarkably dedicated workers, and physicians. among the physicians we have several doctors. i guess i have got you. the director of the clinical center, all of whom have been involved directly in the care of this patient. i think hope just went up a notch today by the fact that we are all here to celebrate the recovery of a patient -- i have some very good and happy news to inform you of right now. our patient nina pham is free of ebola virus. we know that because we have multip

duncan, had ebola. but that is many.o and we are open to ide for what we can americansp as safe as possible as long as the outbreak is continuing. we also have established emergency response team from cdc that will go within hours to any hospital that has an ebola case to help them provide affective care safely. to protect americans. we're always open to new ideas. because the bottom line is using the most accurate data and information to inform our actions and protect health. thank you. >> thank you, dr. frieden. i recognize dr. fauci for five minute summary. >> thank you, chairman murphy. ranking members degette and ranking member upton and ranking member waxman. you heard ab the health aspectses of ebola virus disease from dr. frieden. i appreciate the opportunity to speak to you this morning on the role of national institute of allergy and infectious disease in research addressing ebola virus disease. of note our activities started with the tragic events of 9/11, of 9/11, 2001, which were followed c

he must have come in contact with someone who had ebola or who died from ebola sometime in the last week or so. >> here's another really good question. if ebola isn't spread through the air, why are doctors dressed like astronauts when they encounter patients? >> the full protective suits is for a particular reason. these suits are designed to cover your skin. here's what we know. ebola even a small amount of it in somebody's body fluid if it gets on your skin or gets in your eyes or in your mouth, nose, anything, it can cause an infection. when you are dealing with patients, people who are sick with ebola, you have to cover all of your skin. that's the real goal. you see me doing that. i was doing that when i was in west africa with the doctors without borders ebola camp. >> here's another good question. what about infected bodily fluids that went into the dallas waste treatment system. people wants to know if that stuff went through the toilet and into the system. >> right. a couple things. first of all, the bottom line is that's not a risk to the general public. keep in mind a couple

ebola victim. tople who have been exposed ebola but have no fever or symptoms cannot transmit the virus. not allow fear and panic resolve, nor force us to abandon the values that country.s great everybody has a job to do in this outbreak. federal, state and local governments are doing their job. congress to pass the appropriations necessary to isht ebola in africa, which the best way to stem the humankind andect for you to perform your important role in the strengthening and streamlining ebola response in the united states. we are doing sting that has not been done before and we -- has not been done before, and we cannot fail. the ebola virus in texas. help us win this fight. must win now. work with us to fight this abroad and strengthen our public health security. thank you. judge.k you, the chair recognizes the next speaker. ranking you, chairman, member lee and members of the committee. infectious disease epidemiologist at the university of texas and i've also practiced local health at the level

ebola scare. possible new case in texas where the man with the first case diagnosed in the united states has died. did a sheriff's deputy contract the virus from anymore we'll talk about all of this with the homeland security secretary of the united states, jeh johnson. he'll join us live. >>> plus, fight against isis. the pentagon now warning the world that embattled syrian city just yards from turkey will likely fall to terrorists. there could be a massacre. here's the question -- why is the u.s. not doing more to stop them? why isn't turkey doing more? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> this is cnn breaking news. >> let's get right to the breaking news. a possible new case of ebola in texas. a sheriff's deputy, who was inside the apartment of the man first diagnosed in the united states. that deputy now showing signs and symptoms of ebola. the homeland security secretary jeh johnson is standing by. we'll

the ebola outbreak. members heard testimony from cdc frieden and national institute of allergy and infectious diseases fouchi., anthony three hours. >> good afternoon. i convene this hearing of the oversightee of investigation. >> chairman, i can't see the witness. sure will need to make that the media is -- when the we arees are speaking, clear of the center section. today, the world is fighting the ebola epidemic in history. cdc and our public health system of a fire.middle job 1 is to put that out completely. we will not stop until we do. we must be clear-eyed and to protect purpose public health and to ensure not one additional case is contracted here in the united states. we in congress stand ready to serve as a strong and solid this crisis,lving because there is no greater responsibility for the u.s. government than to protect and defend the safety of the american people. in this battle couldn't be any higher. cases inr of ebola west africa is doubling about every three weeks. the math still favors

with treating ebola, timing is everything. in addition, because the hospital didn't appropriately implement infectious control procedures, they have nurses exposed with a deadly virus. god forbid, if they were to die from that, that would be on the hospital. >> i want to ask you, pam, about the fear that nurses might be walking out of the hospital in dallas because they still don't feel they're being given enough protection and there still aren't proper protocols in place. what are you telling your members across the country? >> we would really encourage them to talk to their leadership. it's very important that this be an issue of dialogue and calm, but very targeted action. we can't get responses when we have pickett lines. what we really need to do is have the one-on-one conversations with our staff and leadership and management to say here is what we need, here is the education, here is the training, here is the equipment, and we want to be assured that we can safely take care of our patients and also keep ourselves safe.

and ebola. member of the obama white house taking heat for downplaying the threat from the beginning. all while the left is trying to politicize this and blame it on republicans. we'll try to check in on with the architect on politicizing of this for his reaction. >>> first, meet the parents of the nbc cameraman who did come down with ebola. they'll give us an exclusive update on his condition coming up. >>> later, our question of the day. much more ahead. thank you for being my hero and my dad. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance could be one of them. if you're a current or former military member or their family, get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. coube a breakthrough wayrip to get immediate and long lasting sensitivity relief instead of sensitivity toothpaste? find out, with new crest sensi-stop strips. just apply to the gumline of sensitive teeth for a quick 10 minutes. the special ingredient

a man in texas, now in isolation. >> ebola, it's here. >> it is here, ebola. >> ebola, here. >> stephen: yes, ebola here. ( laughter ) folks, that is crap-your-pant terrifying in that crap your pant is one of the symptoms of ebola. and now that the virus has hit america, it's only a matter of time before it infects us all. i mean what's what happened with iggy azalea. ( laughter ) so it is time for tonight's. >> apocalypse now. ebola in america. 50 states of graves. >> stephen: by the way, that exploding graphic just spread ebola all over the inside of your tv screen. remember, folks, anybody can get ebola just by coming in contact with an infebted purpose's bodily fluids, including blood, sweat, feces, vomit, semen, and spit. so you might want to avoid the next gathering of the juggalos. ( laughter ) and i won't be fooled into staying calm by the so-called experts with their so-called medical degrees and their so-called fingers. and neither will the fox and friend. >> ebola is-- is not as contablous. it's a very infectious virus, but it's not as contagious. >> you have a very calm tone

two nurses caring for an ebola patient in texas, both contracted ebola. where and was the breakdown? among the nurses and the care they afforded or in the hospital administration? >> it was actually in the hands of the hospital administration for the breakdown and it wasn't communications. it was actually lack of preparation, lack of training and lack of practice with all of the protective equipment that would be needed to provide care for mr. duncan. >> dr. gupta, that doesn't bode well, then, for caring for other ebola patients should there be other ebola patients at hospitals across the country. what of my idea that the model instead should be of instead of instilling the ability to diagnose ebola but then to treat those patients at only a handful of select facilities. >> i can see where that would be appealing especially given what happened in dallas and i agree with deborah in terms of what happened in dallas. michael, a couple things to keep in mind. this becomes a question, first of all, if you're sending patients from wherever they might arrive in

he is a face that we associate now with ebola. since the start of the epidemic, 3,742 patients in west africa have been documented to have died from the disease. we don't have their faces as prominently in front of us and we know that even more people have been affected. so we think about this and we remember what a deadly enemy ebola is and how important it is that we take every step possible to both protect americans and stop the outbreak at its source in africa. one of the things we do to protect americans here in the united states is to improve our preparedness in our health care system. the three key steps are first thinking of the possibility of ebola and identifying who may have the disease so that second they can be rapidly tested and third effectively isolated. that's crucial for our response. and the identification, diagnosis, and safe care of anyone who may have ebola needs to be top of mind right now for health care providers throughout the country. at cdc we do quite a bit to support health care workers in addressing

but it could be ebola. they've taken his blood and it's in the process -- >> he's been in the united states for five days. has he been sick all that time? >> it's not entirely clear how long he's been sick but he's felt sick for a while. this is not sudden. >> is it just today that he's gone to the hospital, do we know? >> yeah, that's our understanding is that he just got to the hospital. >> and it's fascinating to know that -- do we know when we'll get test results? >> the test can be done in about four to six hours. i'm told that it's in the process of being sent to atlanta. they're also sending a specimen to another lab that's closer to kansas. by tomorrow, they should know. >> fascinating news that the nurse here has received a blood transfusion from dr. kent brantly. that's also our breaking news tonight. elizabeth, thanks so much. president obama met with senior administration officials at the white house this afternoon to talk about the response the new dallas case and how the country as a whole is

about ebola? think about any disease, any pandemic. it starts with one and then it spreads. >> you know, i talked about it last week. you guys heckled me for it. i said it's more important for the isis crisis. i disagree with what jonathan just said. there are going to be mistakes -- by the way, we're talking about life and death. we're not talking about measles or something like that. you're talking about people who are going to die very quickly. it has happened before, it's going to happen again and i do not trust anybody here. >> what about america? >> when did it happen in america? >> just shut up a second. do you want to trust the irs? do you want to trust only? do you want to trust the government to help you do this? not going to happen. >> wayne pointed something out that is very important. i heard the cdc chief say it's not going to happen. i heard the hospital say, don't wo)ry. we have this under control. i'm not sure we can trust anyone. >> instead of the blame game, we should solve this

in ebola, a cameraman working for nbc news has tested positive for ebola. ashoko mukpo's parents say that he's leaving liberia on sunday to head to the united states. thomas eric duncan answered "no" on a questionnaire asking whether he had been exposed to ebola. and had been helping ebola patients. the president of liberia is angry. >> with the u.s. doing so much to help us fight ebola, he's gone there and set up, and in a way put some americans in a state of fear. and put them at some risk. so i feel very saddened by that and very angry with him, to tell you the truth. >> let's get an update now on how officials in dallas are handling the ebola cases as well as what airlines are doing to try to reassure nervous travelers. rene marsh is here with me and martin savidge is in dallas. what are you hearing about the possibility of restrictions of flights to west africa. >> they are all saying at this point there is no indication, no plan to tell airlines to stop flying to this region. and you know, when you talk to a lot of these experts, they believe stopping

ebola free. elizabeth, let's talk about new york state here. new york state has been preparing for ebola now for weeks. they had training sessions at the javits center here, they've been doing run throughs in emergency rooms for some time. they seem determined not to make the same mistake that were made in dallas. >> right. in dallas they were just caught totally unaware. they hadn't had ebola training, this gentleman just walked in off the street. they didn't know what to do. that's very different from bellevue. at bellevue they've been training for this. they've been training for protective gear, training for all the little things, what do you do with the dirty sheets and towels, all of that. that is so important. a few weeks ago tom freeden, fre director of the cdc said "any hospital can handle an ebola patient." he doesn't say that anymore. i think he recognized that some hospitals are better at it than others and this hospital would be in the category of being better at it. >> in this pro st

ebola virus. om frieden and anthony fauci live at noon today on the u.s. ebola response. >> well, this is a work in progress. we are trying to determine prt c.d.c. what it has ordered to do certain things. i know it is advisory. i also want to see how we can fix this problem. the problem in dallas at texas presbyterian shouldn't have happened. we don't want it replicated in other parts of the country, so we need to fix it. i think we have a good panel today. a lot of regulatory agencies have the authority to deal with it. so i'm hoping we'll do that. now, our oversight and investigation committee is not an investigative committee. all of us who serve on there also serve on the health subcommittee, the committee that ctually leg slates this. >> tom, one of the people at the hearing today that has been frieden is s -- tom at the hearing today. do you think he understands the situation well? >> i think he is -- understands and it's evolving. i want to talk about what he said recently happened. they d

ebola has been around since 1976. this is the fifth generation ebola vaccine. it looks very good in the animal models where it seems to be pleatly protected. of course you don't know until you try this out in human patients whether it's going to be safe and whether it will work. we didn't start just three -- we did start three weeks ago with a phase one trial. so far all is going well. no red flags to indicate there's a problem with the vackzeen. it will take now a couple of months to see whether those individuals mount an immune response that you would think would be protected against acquiring the disease. if the data looks promising then we need to move quickly to get this into a phase 2 trial in west africa in individuals who are at risk. all all of that is very complicated in a circumstance where there's a great deal of stress as you can imagine on the health care system. we're determined to figure out a way to do that. >> what's the timeline, dr. collins? what are you looking at? >> again, it will be november before we have the evidence about whether the

>> we are learning new things about ebola. ebola has never been in this hemisphere before. we are developing procedures as quickly as possible. >> to the extent the virus is transmitted in the same way when we look at the logistics, the acquisition management, the answer would yes. >> this is outside our purview. >> with that, i will go to the gentlelady from new york. >> thank you. i would first like to thank all of our distinguished panelists for coming today during what is a critical time in the federal government's response to an urgent global crisis. first, i would like to take a moment to commend the health care professionals in new york city for their outstanding

ebola. the training that thousands of health care workers went into, had at the convention center days ago, thousands of those workers were drilled on those preparations and trainings just a couple days ago. none too soon, because it has been called in to practice tonight. let's bring in the director of -- he serves as an adviser to the mayor. he joins us from in front of the hospital. and i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> you are standing in front of bellevue. this patient was taken there tonight. why were bellevue and four other hospitals specially designated as a place where ebola patients would be handled in the event that one did turn up? >> the idea here is to make sure that there are facilities that are up to speed to care for a patient that gets sick with ebola. it's a very complicated process. dehydration and fluids is really critical. this is very difficult to manage. also infection control. all of that has to be done well. on the other hand, the possibility that here or anywhere e

ebola is over. the international community is just beginning to help us to build the health system that has been damaged so badly by ebola. our country has been devastated i, the economic system. many of our people that were helping us to get funding to do different things in our countries have left. companies have slowed down and some are left the country. so when you finish, we will just be beginning to rebuild. so i want to thank all of you: the united nations and all of the organizations that are helping us now. the un ite states of america with bringing in more than 389,000 solids to build and to help us, the african union, the west african health organization, all of you. there are many, many people, including the international gnos or nsf. s. all of these are celebrating the fight that we have been trying to do ourselves. we are very appreciatetative of this. but i want to say thank you, but i want to say to you, you are not eradicating ebola. you are helping a health system that has been wea

. >>> ebola controversy. from quarantines to travel bans, the politics are getting uglier around the world. but is any of it help stopping the spread of the disease? >>> also coming up -- >> an american school shooter may have lured his victims into a trap. new details about the killer's text messages before the attack. >>> take a look at this. a river of molten lava is oozing toward a village in hawaii. also coming up. >>> in four more years, you're going to see another example of the ford family never, ever, ever giving up. >> it's election night in toronto, and believe it or not, rob ford has won another race. >> welcome back to cnn newsroom. i'm rosemary church. >> and i'm errol barnett. let's begin with what's happened in the state. kaci hickox says her quarantine in new jersey violated her basic, human rights. now the nurse who treated ebola patients in west africa is expected to be at her home in maine today. new jersey governor chris christie ordered her released from isolation after she tested negati

so he was very alert to signs and symptoms of ebola coming from a place where ebola is truly ravaging the dó#ñpopulation.(-&j the waste? we have contracts in place for the removal of medical waste. the patient really only displayed symptoms today. and i see no reason for the building to be concerned. we have -- the apartment is > i want to make the point he left the key in his apartment and locked the door. very meticulous individual recognized that if the key was floating around somebody pick it up -- >> dr. basset wants to add. >> i just wanted to add or to point out that the state health department announced just lastk yk÷- week that eight hospitals in this state would be as settings where ebola patients could be cared for. we are the first state to identify a limited number of hospitals of which this hospital is one, bellevue hospital is one of the five hospitals in

new questions this morning about ebola. the second nurse with the deadly virus now being treated in atlanta. that as a controversy swirls why she flew on a commercial flight and the cdc okayed her to travel or not. >>> and growing demand for a ban on flights from west africa into the united states. the white house says it is not on the table. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. it is thursday, october 16th. 5:00 a.m. in the east. we have breaking news overnight. the second dallas nurse to come down with ebola has now been moved to atlanta for treatment. that amid controversy over her previous air travel. 29-year-old amber vinson was part of the team that took care of duncan. he is the man from liberia who died in dallas from ebola last week. now there are serious questions why amber took a flight from cleveland to dallas on monday with a temperature of 99.5. >> thomas frieden said she should never have set foot on an airplane knowing nina pham had been diagnosed with ebola. a fe

do any know anybody who's had ebola? have they been exposed to ebola? have they had any sickness at all over the course of the last week or so. then, if they're clear, if they don't have any symptoms, they'll be allowed to move on. they'll be told, listen, if you develop any systmptom, contact e cdc immediately. if anybody is showing symptoms, or become sick in flight, or whatever, they will be pulled over by the personnel and quarantined. at that point, the state health department brought in. the hope is they can keep anybody coming from west africa and who might have an ebola contagion, keep them from coming to the u.s. but as you know, this is fraught with political upheaval right now. people calling for, on both the right and the left, calling for a travel ban on people coming from west africa. >> really quickly, there continues to be a bit of confusion over the cdc's do not board list. this do not board list. what more can you tell us about the existence of this list and whether we know anyone who's on the list now. >> yeah, this is similar to the

ebola. the training that thousands of health care workers went into, had at the convention center days ago, thousands of those workers were drilled on those preparations and trainings just a couple days ago. none too soon, because it has been called in to practice tonight. let's bring in the director of -- he serves as an adviser to the mayor. he joins us from in front of the hospital. >> thank you. >> you are standing in front of bellevue. this patient was taken there tonight. why were bellevue and four other hospitals specially designated as a place where ebola patients would be handled in the event that one did turn up? >> the idea here is to make sure that there are facilities that are up to speed to care for a patient that gets sick with ebola. it's a very complicated process. dehydration and fluids is really critical. this is very difficult to manage. also infection control. all of that has to be done well. on the other hand, the possibility that here or anywhere else, the patient can

fruit bats live with ebola virus. they don't get sick from ebola virus. as a result if humans come into contact with fruit bats, we then get ebola virus spreading into a place like guinea, which is where the epicenter of the epidemic is. we've seen it in other infectious diseases as well. deforestation linked to another disease and the list goes on. >> is this a central feature of the spread of infectious diseases in some parts of the world where there are vectors like the fruit bat that people should be more aware of and more concerned about? >> and the frontier forests, the first cut can often be the deepest and when the chain saws first hit the forests it sets off a chain reaction, not just interaction between humans and the animals, but consumption, fruit bats, chimpanzees, all kinds of animals can end up on the dinner table, unfortunately and that increases the risk of these kinds of outbreaks. >> obviously greenpeace, very proactive on the deforestation issue, but you are lukewarm about commitments that just came out of the u.n. climate summit last

we first learned about ebola four decades ago. and it then was obvious it was a terribly dangerous virus. so four decades on, the question is have pharmaceutical companies not poured resources and research effort into ebola simply because it appeared to involve very poor countries with very little commercial potential? >> i'm sure that's a reason, but i don't think we can accuse private industries of that. i think the thing is, whenever we have a health crisis, i think governments have to come together quickly. they have to assess scenarios. i think they have to assess risk. they need to come up with a clear plan. have clear accountability and leadership. but importantly, ensure that there's adequate funding. >> so you're pinning the responsibility and the blame, if you like, if that's the right word, on government? >> i absolutely am. i do not think we can expect industry to have, as i said, stockpiles of vaccines for all these diseases. i do think that -- you know, as you say, we had the outbreak in march. do i believe that ther

here's today's lesson. >> yes, doctor. >> america patches ebola taking care of a patient who has ebola in a dallas hospital with the centers for disease control overseeing the situation when they already know and we already know that if they are very actively involved. they know how. >> they don't want them involved. >> i don't want them involved. tom freiden says, you can't get this if you are sitting next to someone on a bus. >> she was a healthcare worker. >> i am talking about the cdc. >> one thing that came up i asked mark this morning. >> we are going to continue this conversation with more on tonight's breaking news on ebola. >> hearing of a texas nurse infected with ebola, are you worried now? facebook or tweet me at judge jeanine. me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorrow. what's in a can of del monte green beans? ( ♪ ) grown in america. picked and packed at the peak of ripeness. with no artificial ingredients. del monte. bursting with life. >> eb

and s-f-o may be added to screening for ebola. >> pam:the patient who is the case of ebola. was moved to a federal quarantine >> pam: really well." we're hearing from her for from her hospital bed. >> pam:76- health workers at texas health presbyterian hospital in dallas, where pham and another nurse - amber vinson -were both infected, may all be banned from boarding airplanes. >> pam:and the disease was a hot topic today on capitol hillcatherine heenan shows us what happened. >>it's a public health crisis >>people are scared >>the public confidence is shaken. >> catherine:an epidemic of finger pointing as the country's top health officials are ebola crisis. iowa "the administration did not act fast enough " dell"unacceptable" >>"mismanaged" >>i still don't feel we have a good answer walking >> catherine:demands for an explanation for the mis=diagnosis of a fatally infected liberian man. >>"despite our best intentions, in a highly skilled medical team, we made mistakes. we did not correctly diagnose his symptoms as those of ebola and we are deeply sorry. >> catherine:and for

is it ebola waste as contagious as a patient with ebola? >> ebola waste, waste from ebola patients, and be readily decontaminated. the virus itself is not particularly hardy. is killed by bleach, by a variety of chemicals. ebola waste more dangerous than other medical waste? >> the severity of the infection is higher, so you want to be certain when you're getting rid of it -- >> is the cdc assessing the capabilities of hospitals to manage the waste of ebola patients, and does the cdc allow off-site disposal of ebola medical waste? >> my understanding is the latter question, yes, we work closely with the department of transportation as well as the commercial waste management companies to ensure that capability. inso we have an added danger having to truck this waste and move it to facilities. are the employees at the processing centers been trained and how to dispose of ebola waste? >> we have detailed guidelines for the disposal of medical waste from the care of ebola patients. >> all right. you and i talked about my troops from fort campbe

more to say about ebola. he said not only is it just a national security priority but he made it very clear he sees this as a global threat and he's concerned, he's been concerned for a long time. take a listen. are you, general, denvercy, worried about ebola here in the u.s.? >> i've been worried about ebola globally for about 90 days and i have had some on my staff that were probably a little more worried than i was even a few weeks or months before that. >> why? >> i'm worried about it because, because we know so little about it. you'll hear different people describe whether it could become airborne. if you bring two doctors who happen to have that specialty into a room one will say no it will never become airborne but it could mutate so it would be harder to discover. it disguises itself in the body which makes it so dangerous and has that incubation period of 21 days. another doctor will say if it continues to mutate at the rate it's mutating we go from 20,000 infected to 100,000 the population might all

that's how you stop ebola. i can go through the details when you wish, and we are working to ensure there's effective infection control. i have the details of that. in sum, cdc works 24/7 to protect americans. there's no shortcuts. everyone has to do their part. there are more than 5,000 hospitals in the country, more than 2500 health departments at the local level and we're there to support, world class expertise, and we're there to respond to threats to help protect americans and always open to new ideas, open to data because our bottom line is using the most accurate data information, inform our actions, and protect health, thank you. >> thank you. now for a five minute summary of your statement. >> thank you. you just heard about the public health aspects of ebola disease. i appreciate the opportunity to speak with you this morning for a few minutes on the infectious diseases. of note is that our activities actually started with the tragic events of 9/11. if i could -- of 9/11/2001, followed closely by the

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