darren wilson says michael brown kept charging at him. in the first sentence of the article, reporter robert patrick identifies his source as, quote, a source with knowledge of his statements. that is, of course, the statements of officer darren wilson. there are only two possible sources for this article. one is a prosecutor involved in presenting evidence to the grand jury. that prosecutor would be aware of all of officer wilson's statements, including any statements he might have made outside of the grand jury room as a witness. the other possible source that would have knowledge is darren wilson's criminal defense lawyer. the office told "the washington post," our office is not responsible for these leaks. darren wilson's lawyer, james p.toby jr. did not return "the washington post's" call seeking a comment. and very tellingly, if you know the conventions of modern journalism and unnamed sources, there is absolutely no reference to darren wilson's lawyer or the fact that he even has a lawyer in "st. louis post dispatch" article. that'

michael brown is 6'4" tall. he's very tall. for him to get shot in the top of the head, up at the top of the hairline, how far down would he have to be bent over in order to be shot in the top of the head? and have that bullet trajectory, which is very important, doctor, as you know. the bullet trajectory when it enters his head goes straight down in his head. so, how far would he have to be bent over to be shot in the head that way? >> i can't answer that question without knowing the height of the weapon. so, in order to do a trajectory analysis, you need to know at what height the officer was holding his weapon and then do the triangulation that way. >> we have varying information as to his height, but he was not 6'4" like michael brown. let's call him 6 feet, which means his weapon is a foot below that, at least, at shoulder level. let's call it five feet off the ground how does five feet off the ground gun held with two hands this way, how does it get a straight down trajectory in the skull of someone who's 6'4", how far ov

on michael brown's side. on darren wilson's side. what is irreap the ffutablirref evidence in the case, itch the evidence is correct it points in the direction of what the officer said happened. go ahead make your point. >> i have to disagree. there is one other piece of evidence that all of the witnesses talk about as totally refutable. michael brown was running away. this officer was shooting at him as he ran away. true he may not have hit him as he was running away. he hit him. when michael brown turned arun yes he had his hand up. he also started going down. i think you have to take all of the testimony in totality to, and put it altogether. the real point here though is there is plenty of evidence here in this case for this jury to indict him. remember indictment is just probable cause that the crime may have been committed. it is not allegation not proving guilt. i think we need new make sure they do their job and at least indict. have an open public trial. >> have to go. up against the clock. thank you. appreciate you joining

shots at michael brown. there is not one word in the new york times article that claims to be the first public account of officer wilson's testimony, not one word of why officer wilson fired ten shots at michael brown after he ran away from officer wilson. and according to the law, each one of those shots has to be justified. each one of those shots has to be fired because officer wilson is protecting himself from imminent threat of death or serious physical injury. and the new york times article which claims to be officer wilson's account does not contain one word of explanation as to why officer wilson fired anyone of those ten shots. over wilson's friends at the ferguson police department would love to offer an explanation as to why he fired those ten shots. they never have. they have never leaked such an explanation. there is not a hint of justification for any one of those ten shots. that is the point that jim kavanaugh and i have been making for the past couple months that there were at least two separ

. >> this is regarding michael brown -- not michael brown, darren wilsons police and family . they say wilson was nearly beaten to death. i remember seeing a couple of weeks ago -- there was somebody who talk to him and gave an account of what actually happened. the media play this up. this was on the national cable channels. i forget who this person was. it was a friend of michael brown. it was a secondhand account of what happened that day. are you responsible for putting that on the air when you don't know who this person is? they could be making it up. >> you are talking about darren wilson. woman who talk to a female friend of darren wilson. it is already thirdhand. i don't -- i guess i don't really think that it is responsible to use that. i was reading it because -- at that point, we did not have any kind of idea at all about what the police account was. i credit for background information. i don't think that writing a -- wouldut that was have been responsible. if you're going to write that story, you have to say that this withoutrdhand account firsthand knowledge. i th

he didn't know if michael brown was shot, but they ran. and they were fleeing and the question that everybody has asked is, well, why did he keep shooting and then when he put his hands in the air why did he keep shooting because you have seven witnesses who gave eyewitness testimony. and then you have the police version. that's why it should be in a courtroom where people can vet the witnesses and vet the police account. but right now we don't have that. >> well, it's happening. we don't have it. >> no, no, we don't have that. the grand jury -- the prosecutor is saying that they're not even presenting anything. they're just putting all their evidence out there. in a traditional case, based on our constitution, you have a right to trial by jury and you have a right -- >> you make it sound like a grand jury proceeding is bias against michael brown. typically it's bias in favor of an indictment. >> typically, megyn. typically. this prosecutor -- this prosecutor's doing it differently than any other -- and you're a lawyer. you know prosecutor

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this officer had a right to kill michael brown. that is still plausible to me. so i'm waiting -- i am waiting for the evidence. i'm not saying there has to be an indictment. i'm saying that if there isn't an indictment and if you look at the condition of the community, there will probably be a bad reaction. how they roll this out is going to be critical. they had better have all their ducks lined up and the proof lined up so that the leadership has something to be able to defend the government's action with, if that's what is warranted. >> so back to this larger issue, that's why i love talking to you. this is not a new issue but you crystallize it tonight in a way many might not have understood it much less embraced it, that is this notion of how in a particular incident, law enforcement might not be wrong history of your predatory government oversight does build up a kind of tension that a teapot is going to blow. so ferguson is the sight of the michael brown shooting and other shootings we can talk about tonight in this country, we'll set that aside for a mom

for the first time, we're hearing details from the police officer who shot and killed michael brown, as he gives his version of what happened. >>> also, monica lewinsky talks about cyber bullying -- billowing -- bullying. and the scandal that made her famous. >>> and reaction to those offensive comments made about serena and venus williams. >>> but we start with tonight's lead, the right-wing's new poll t tax. the fight for voting rights is now a central battle in the midterm elections. with early voting now under way in 34 states, today president obama cast his early vote, and talked about the importance of the franchise. >> i'm here to vote. >> all right. we're ready. >> the most important office in a democracy, the office of citizens. that's what i'm doing right now. exercising my right. >> but now the franchise is under attack like it hasn't been in a generation. i spoke to the president in an interview for my radio show, and i asked him about the importance of getting out the vote in the midterm elections. >> we can't afford to be sitting at home, thinking that the mid terms don

what really happened the day michael brown was shot? we're here to ask those questions and tripe to gy to ges for you. i want to begin. breaking news a big law and order story. the capture of the pennsylvania trooper shooting suspect. joining me now to talk abut this and his capture. cnn justice department. what are your sources telling you about this capture? >> caller: don, eric frein walking back to his hiding spot inside this abandoned airport in northeastern pennsylvania when a team from the u.s. marshalls saw him. he apparently didn't see them. they were able to surprise him and brought him down. they arrested him. inside his hiding place, we are told they recovered a couple of weapons. a rifle, and ape pistol. but, the much feared shootout that, that law enforcement officers were expecting and fearing frankly, did not occur. he surrendered without incident. and heap is now under arrest, the state police in pennsylvania is expected to bring him before a, a judge there and bring some charges against him. as you know, don, the sourc

so we're at the two-month anniversary since michael brown was killed. just last month, you had another shooting. so the biggest thing is trust. they didn't trust the police before, and that is just getting bigger and bigger. it's not clear what, at this point, can bridge that gap. there's forensic evidence. there's a bullet hole in the police car. they recovered a .9 millimeter weapon. >> joining me now, anthony gray, an attorney for michael brown's family. mr. gray, where is the family at right now. protesters coming this weekend. the tragic shooting last night and a grand jury process that seems to be extended indefinitely at least until january. >> well, yeah. mentally, physically as well as psychologically, they're stationary. they're pretty much at the same place that they were on august 9th. they're still grieving. as you just eluded to, the process is still open. we're 61 days removed with no answers. no conclusion. it just seems to me that the longer that the time goes on, the longer that the grieving gets worse. the trust as trymaine just elude

there was imminent harm being done to him by michael brown. the fact that there was a scuffle in the car is not the end of the story, we need to know why he continued to shoot as michael exited the vehicle. >> that raises more questions about the behaviour of the police officer. >> yes. if he shot michael brown in the arm inside the strike, if michael was running away, which you think is the logical thing for people to do, why would he continue to shoot? how was he in harm. how was his life in danger if michael was running away with his arms in the air as the witnesses say. >> this information is supposed to be secret. how did it get out, do you think? >> there's a federal investigation that is happening parallel to the grand jury proceedings, and if you read the article carefully, it suggests the information is coming from the federal investigation into the shooting. the feds are looking to see was there a civil rights violation, was michael brown shot as a result of his race, as a result of being african-american, i believe the information w

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that town still reeling from the police shooting of unarmed teenager michael brown and preparing for what might happen if the officer who shot him is not charged. we've got the latest developments this morning. >>> fire in the sky. nasa's unmanned rocket explodes seconds after liftoff. this morning, investigators trying to figure out just what went wrong. >>> security watch. thousands of federal buildings across the country this morning. terror threats forcing the department of homeland security to sound the alert. we'll tell you what we're learning. good morning, welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> and i'm christine romans. it's wednesday, october 29th, it's 4:00 a.m. in the east. let's begin with breaking news from ferguson, missouri. there is word the police chief there could soon step down. officials tell cnn that chief thomas jackson's departure would be part of efforts to reform the ferguson police department, following the shooting of an unarmed teenager michael brown by officer darren wilson. chief jackson and the mayor of ferguson deny those reports. >> there's bee

>> the police car. >> right. >> inside the police car with michael brown. and, basically, they are -- their sources are a source very close to darren wilson, the police officer that you see on the right-hand side of your screen. and also leaked information from the official autopsy in this case. >> anonymous source but leaked information from the autopsy. >> exactly. >> go ahead. >> so what it accounts is that the car that the two of them, johnson and brown were walking down the middle of the street. that wilson pulled up behind them, told them to get up on the sidewalk. then an altercation ensued as wilson started to get out of his car and open the door. the account in the dispatch say the door was pushed closed by michael brown and that he punched him on the right side of the face and the left side of his face according to this report. >> mr. brown about 300 pounds. >> true. >> big man. >> true. >> and before the altercation with the officer had pushed around as we have seen now a deli owner. he had marijuana in his system, correct? >> that's true. >> wha

whatever happened in that car, michael brown jr. was running away from him. >> reporter: the grand jury has been meeting since august 20 to decide whether to indict officer wilson for killing michael brown, jim, and the st. louis county prosecutor robert mccullouch says he expects a decision in mid-november. >> axelrod: vlad, thank you. up next, does a can of soda a day take years off your life? what one study has found. $61 billion-a-year business in the united states, but a new study in the "american journal of public health" suggests drinking them could shorten your life. >> reporter: the first-of-its-kind study looked at whether america's thirst for soda speeds up how the body's cells age. researchers at the university of california san francisco used a sample of 5300 healthy adults. dr. elissa epel worked on the study for five years. >> we think we can get away with drinking lots of soad as, as long as we're not gaining weight, but this suggests that there is an invisible pathway that leads to accelerated aging regardless of we

be into the foreseeable future. >> so this is, this is regarding michael brown -- not michael brown, darren wilson's police friends and family network. it says they are convinced that wilson was nearly beaten to death. why can't the media dig up this information? i remember seeing a couple of weeks ago there was somebody who had talked to him and gave an account of what had actually happened, and the media played this up. i mean, this was on national, cable channels. michael brown's -- i forget who this person was, like a friend, and she had talked to him. it was a, it was a secondhand account of what happened that day. so are you responsible by putting that on the air when you don't know who this person is? they could have been make it up. >> yeah. i think you're talking about darren will soften, right? >> -- will soften. >> yeah, so it was a woman who had talked to a female friend of darren wilson's, so you're already like -- >> thirdhand. >> thirdhand. and i think she called the conservative commentator. so, you know, i don't -- i guess i don't really think that it's responsible t

michael brown grabbed his gun. well, i don't know, because that still doesn't explain why according to certain witnesses, he still shot michael brown while he was surrendering or had his hands up. and all of that information tells me that perhaps there won't be an indictment. and they're trying to ready the public for what could happen. >> mark, what about that? a former st. louis police says he believes that may happen, is that common to lay groundwork to ease the impact of an explosive outcome? >> yes, in the very, very unique world of the high profile case is, like the michael brown case is you have to understand that the government's role may well be one where there is information to insulate the public. i don't like when information is leaked out to be knowledge for one side or the other. but it would make sense the way the information is released that they're doing it for a purpose beyond the information itself. >> alderman, what do you make of the mood right the fact that officer wilson may not be indicted.

that takes the focus away from what happened to michael brown. how concerned are you about the reaction that's been going on, about what may happen if there is not an indictment? >> quite obvious, anderson, people are frustrated in st. louis and all over america, because they keep saying our children get killed over and over again and nobody is held accountable. it is swept under the rug. we encourage people to exercise their first amendment rights but we want you to do it in a constructive, nonviolent way. we want you to turn this frustration into legislation by going to vote in the mid-term election and passing the mike brown law so it won't play out this way again because the police officer got video cameras, anderson. it will be transparent. it will protect the officer if he did nothing wrong but also it will give these families answers. that's what they want. they want to know why their child was shot down in the middle of the street in broad daylight. >> i appreciate you being on. >>> imagine if this was happening to your mom, your sister,

brown y otros jÓvenes. en ferguson, missouri, viviana Ávila, univisiÓn. >> una persona muriÓ y otras resultaron heridas en arkansas. el servicio nacional de lima dijo que los vientos sobrepasaron las 100 millas por hora. tambiÉn se reportaron tormentas en otras partes del estado, donde cuatro hogares resultaron daÑadas. el principal hospital infantil de repÚblica dominicana fue militarizado tras la muerte de 11 niÑos. la conclusiÓn fue que se tratÓ de un caso de negligencia mÉdica. tenemos las reacciones. >> mÉdicos dominicanos abandonaron las salas de emergencia y de consultas para protestar ante lo califican una desconsideraciÓn a los doctores que tendieron a los niÑos que murieron a principio de mes. >> lo que ellos hicieron, muchos de nosotros no lo hubiÉramos hecho. cargar un tanque de oxÍgeno para llevarlo a Áreas donde lo necesitaban. es durante ocho horas y muchos de ellos, hoy tienen tendinitis. >> tras el escÁndalo que conmoviÓ al paÍs, este lunes el hospital amaneciÓ militariz

out on the streets from day one after the killing of michael brown. back, the arming of the warrior cop. warrior cops around the country, including ferguson. where is the money coming from? where is it going to? we will speak with mother jones reporter shane bauer. stay with us. ♪ [music break] >> "the game - don't shoot," a michael brown tribute featuring diddy, rick ross, 2 chainz, fabolous, yo gotti, and wale. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. >> we continue our conversation about policing communities by looking at who is involved in the increasing militarization of police departments across the country. shane bauer's cover story for mother jones magazine headlined, "the making of the warrior cop," gives us a tour through the corporations and government departments involved in enabling police departments to acquire anything from bayonets to semi-automatic rifles and reporting from the exposition called "urban shield" which, according to organizers, is the largest first-responde

and what happened to michael brown is not that unusual. unfortunately. 90.ou recently turned you survive the not the holocaust. what keeps you marching? i guess i can't stop. i don't know how to stop. like. what depression is as a child in germany under the nazi regime, i experienced it. are the same,ons but there always similarities. we're all the same. one human race. the protest has marched down market street past the st. louis arch and arrived at keynote park to hear from a series of speakers. freedom summer. this is our freedom summer! >> we get all the same people on the front lines to get out here and protest for the light to live and we get -- right to live and we get to aghast and maced and rubber bulleted. i've spent more time in jail than darren wilson, and it is ridiculous. we are sick of it. we are tired. we are tired and we want st. louis to know in front of this arch that we aren't going anywhere until you stop killing us. you will stop killing us. and we mean that. >> we're here with jesse williams from "grey's anatomy." wh

that initially, michael brown was the aggressor in the situation. and also there were seven or eight african-american witnesses who backed up that account. are you aware of those witnesses? >> anderson, how do you vet a leak? how do you attack a leak? and i know several witnesses who testified before the grand jury who say they think that people are trying to twist their words. and that is why we need transparency, anderson, we need to have a trial by a jury based on the constitution of the united states where it is very transparent and all the evidence and all the witnesses can be cross examined. >> you said the transparency, all the witnesses have said after the grand jury that they will reveal all the evidence that was presented to the grand jury. so there is that transparency even if there is not a trial. is that not -- >> and anderson, what this family wants is what any other family would want if their child was shot down in broad daylight. for the person to be charged for the evidence to come before a jury. and everybody can vet that evidence.

it's not just about michael brown in ferguson. it's not just about what happened in st. louis a few nights earlier this week. it's about a national issue and concerns about holding police accountable. and raising the voices of so many people who have been killed by violence and their voices are going unheard. people are streaming from all over the country to be here. last night there were only a few hundred. organizers are hoping today they get 4,000 or 5,000 more that registered to come. >> thank you so much for your continued reporting in st. louis, missouri. now i want to bring in my panel in studio. still with me is laura flanders. joining me now is michael denzel smith, fellow at the nation institute. and editor in chief at globalgrind.com and russell simmons' political director. thank you all for being here. michael, i just wand to start with you. the point he just made. the flash point is ferguson is st. louis. but this ain't just about what's happening in missouri. this is about a national problem. >> i think what's inspiring is we are 60 days past the death of m

we heard the narrative that michael brown was a gentle giant. he's not aggressive. he wouldn't hurt anybody. in the video, you see him take on the store clerk that's about half his size, after stealing the cigars. he's confronted. he shoves the guy violently into the rack. starts to leave the store. that's not good enough. he turns around and comes back in menacingly toward the clerk and then leaves. that incident occurs about ten minutes before the encounter with officer wilson on the street. so he could have, in his own mind, thought that officer wilson was going to arrest him for the incident at the store. that would be a motive for being aggressive and wilson being caught by surprise. >> what do you make of that, don? >> i think it goes to state of mind. i think he's right, that's going to come up. when you're dealing with a grand jury, you're dealing with people listening and trying to be objective about it. so if you look at that, they'll say -- they'll want to know what precipitated this? what happened before? we have been saying there are two separate events

michael brown's family has always said they don't trust any of the local st. louis authorities. they have been asking for a special prosecutor from day one and asked them for federal intervention because they don't believe the local officials of st. louis are going to give equal justice to their child. >> reporter: we spoke to the st. louis county medical examiner's office, local police, and the justice department, and they all say that the leaks didn't come from them. meanwhile, scott the grand jury has until january to come to a decision. a local prosecutor says it could happen as early as mid-november. >> pelley: vladimir, thanks very much. much of the u.s. is witnessing a rare event at this hour, a partial solar eclipse. this is a live picture from griffith observatory in los angeles. those are sun spots that you see right down there in the middle of the sun. in this time-lapses picture it appears as if someone or something is just gobbling up chunks of the sun but, of course, what you're seeing is the shad oast moon as it passed between the earth and the sun. in a moment, w

. >> new at 11:00, the city of trenton covers up a mural of michael brown. painted the mural on a vacant store front. michael brown was shot by a police officer in ferguson, missouri back in august. the 18-year-old was unarmed at the time. >>> and that shooting set off weeks of unrest in the st. louis suburb, which you see some of here. nbc 10 has the story of why the mural of michael brown was removed from the streets of trenton. >> reporter: there is no trace of a mural of mike brown once painted prominently at the corner of north broad and east hanover in trenton. the trenton downtown association removed it yesterday at the urging of several police officers who were unconfidentmf with the message. >> the intent was to get a reaction, not to further divide us. >> reporter: while meant to stir up dialogue, was not meant to throw digs at local police. but local police tell us the image of michael brown gunned down by a police officer in ferguson was a distraction and undermined the good police intentions. the word michael brown and sagging pants is not proba

>> the police car. >> right. >> inside the police car with michael brown. and, basically, they are -- their sources are a source very close to darren wilson, the police officer that you see on the right-hand side of your screen. and also leaked information from the official autopsy in this case. >> anonymous source but leaked information from the autopsy. >> exactly. >> go ahead. >> so what it accounts is that the car that the two of them, johnson and brown were walking down the middle of the street. that wilson pulled up behind them, told them to get up on the sidewalk. then an altercation ensued as wilson started to get out of his car and open the door. the account in the dispatch say the door was pushed closed by michael brown and that he punched him on the right side of the face and the left side of his face according to this report. >> mr. brown about 300 pounds. >> true. >> big man. >> true. >> and before the altercation with the officer had pushed around as we have seen now a deli owner. he had marijuana in his system, correct? >> that's true. >> wha

michael brown's mother says she doesn't want words, she wants actions. she knows that there's not an experienced crime scene investigator in the country who has defended the ferguson police for leaving michael brown's body on that street for 4 1/2 hours. and she knows how chief jackson and his officers at that scene treated her during those 4 1/2 hours. in what is the most powerful and emotional interview conducted by any of us in the media about this case, steve harvey today asked michael brown's mother about those 4 1/2 hours and what they were like for her. her answer brings you closer to the pain of a mother losing her teenage son than anything i've ever heard. what she went through is agonizing to listen to. steve harvey wasn't asking her why she didn't accept the police chief's apology, but the answer to why she wouldn't accept that apology is there in every anguished word of what she had to say. she began by telling steve harvey that she was at work when she got a phone call telling her someone had been shot near her mother's house. >> i was at wo

for example, michael brown told the prosecutor that decided he wasn't going to charge. number two, he wasn't going to reveal any of the evidence that he had in the case. and so two important things happened. number one, we found in our practice that is very important at times and in some cases to align with the fbi and the department of justice and in doing so, similar to what you had in trayvon and michael brown. i was sitting in a meeting with two fbi agents in the st. louis field office and the very next day they had 48 agents on the ground doing their job and if you bought it and know that this happened they followed up the kendrick johnson case. do you believe that is the case because of the individuals that are in power now. would the response be different if it was a different administration? who >> to start with president obama and number two with the attorney general holder obviously it is quite clear that washington had taken the interest of the case and they would be domicile in the country had some call into some interaction from washington from the executiv

the autopsy show on michael brown's body? was there gun residue on his hands? >> i can't address that. we haven't gotten that testing back. there was some injury one of the injuries michael received had to be while he was at the car. >> why do you say that? >> the officer is testifying he shot michael once at car which is what the article said, the source of michael being shot once by the officer is the officer count given by the new york times. i haven't talked to the officer. >> the big concern will be especially there from your perspective, counselor parks, is that if michael brown was reasonably perceived by the officer to be trying to get his gun in the struggle with the officer and use it against him, he can use it as a threat to him and the community. he's a cop. they have a different set of rules. it comes down to analysis. how do you think this impacts the grand jury? if this is supported by forensics, is indictment less likely in your opinion? >> it shouldn't be chris. if nothing else, you have two competing stories

lou: of michael brown. how significant? how much? and how impaired would he have been. >> it was kind of recreational levels, it looks like from toxicology report he had recently spokeed marijuana. but marijuana makes people feel good, it does not necessarily make them do any bizarre or stupid things. >> we know he was doing bizarre, stupid -- >> well. lou: and. >violent things justmoments bef, i am not suggesting that marijuana would cause him to alike it did, di but did it impr his judgment or reasoning? >> it could to a small degree, people on marijuana do not assault police officers because of the marijuana. lou: people who are violent of nature do so irrespect tes irre. >> correct, violent people, the question is history of that. >> how soon will we have sufficient facts to feel comfortable. >> i think within the next few weeks or after the grand jury report comes in. district attorney should release everything. but i think that both autopsy reports, the st. louis and please show that at least 6 gunshot wounds, one of which was

michael brown's blood was found in the car and on wilson's uniform. brown's gunshot wounds included a shot in the hand at close range which could support the theory brown was trying to grab wilson's gun when the first bullets were fired. >> if there is any amount of force used against the officer, then we begin to see some justification for that officer using deadly force. >> reporter: the post dispatch also quoted a source with knowledge of wilson's statement saying the police officer, quote, told investigators that in a struggle for his pistol inside a police suv, michael brown pressed the barrel of wilson's gun against the officer's hip. 24 this is disputed by many witnesses who charge that wilson was the aggressor. >> he grabbed onto my friend and trying to pull him in the vehicle. and my friend is trying to pull away from the officer. >> it doesn't look like at all a struggle for a gun. it just appeared to be the police officer trying to manipulate the young man into his vehicle. >> reporter: but not all of the witnesses are on michael brown's si

anniversary of michael brown, you get another layer of confusion. yesterday, the demonstration started with a quiet candle light prayer vigil where myers was killed. hundreds showed up. they changed some of the lyrics of amazing grace to include the words don't shoot. a call for federal investigation into the shooting of myers. and later, on thursday night x police took to the streets in riot gear. system of the protesters burned american flags. system of them burned the windows on a house. police ened up using their pepper spray and mace and eight people were arrested and one police officer was injured. michael brown's family released a statement tonight, again, asking for people to protest peacefully and lawfully. protest planners are calling this a weekend in rereses tense. events will include rallies and tactics. they're also planning a party. they want this to be a peaceful weekend for a community that has many unanswered questions. joining me now is liz brown. thags for being with us tonight, liz. >>> it's been two months, for a lot of people,

this follows the controversial police shooting of unarmed teenager michael brown. the town is now preparing for what could happen if officer wilson is not indicted. we'll have the very latest developments this morning just ahead. >>> an unmanned nasa rocket explodes in the sky just seconds after liftoff. investigators trying to figure out just what went wrong. >>> terror watch at thousands of federal buildings. the government beefing up security after threats of lone wolf terror attacks. we'll tell what you we're learning ahead. welcome back to "early start," everyone, i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. 31 minutes past the hour. we have breaking news from ferguson to tell you about. word this morning the police chief there could soon step down. government officials familiar withian going discussions are telling cnn chief thomas jackson's departure would be part of efforts to reform the ferguson police department after the shooting of unarmed black teenager michael brown by officer darren wilson. chief jackson and mayor of ferguson flatly denying those report

a new event starts when michael brown runs away. then the question becomes, was it excessive force for officer wilson to shoot at michael brown during that second event? was that excessive force? >> and that's where you have a lot of witnesses. don't you also have the situation here where if this prosecutor, mr. mccouple off, who many have questioned from the beginning, and the family has questioned from the beginning. don't you really have the question of, if he does not indict as many expected, and if he does not go forward, then he is really saying that we in this country can have the possibility of eight people saying something? and one policeman can say no, they're wrong, and we go with that? isn't that a bad press dental to have in the system no matter what your view of the case? >> well, it certainly would be something that could be troubling for a lot of reasons. i wanted to get back to the point just made. when we talk about a civil rights violation, you don't to have prove a hate crime. it means you have to source lethal f

this after the leaks autopsy report of michael brown, it shows that he was shot six times including a hand wound that happened at close range, that wound could support police officer's darren wilson's claim that he tried to grab his gun, but attorneys for the brown family have a different take. >> it shows mike as a person who is probably fighting for his life. trying to get free, from what ever grip this officer has on him. and i draw that conclusion not blindly, but when he got free, he fled. >> a grand jury is expected to decide by mid-november whether officer wilson will face criminal charges, the justice charges are investigating for possible civil rights violations, a mural dedicated to michael brown used to sit in downtown trenton is taken down due to potential fears of violence there. nora muchanic has the story. >> reporter: this is the image of michael brown, it's teen shot by police in ferguson, missouri s. painted on a security game in east trenton, with the caption, sagging pants is not probable cause. >> regardless of what happen that day, if this spurred up a healthy de

cameramen making jokes about where michael brown had died. cameramen who were yelling at people in the community to get out of the way. chris hayes being out of the way of their shots. chris hayes, msnbc guy out there with the people but actually behind a wrought iron fence. i thought that he had quite a number of good points there. >> i'm going to go to bradley and britney, these are the journalists. you will tell us what really happened out there. bradley? >> great. i'm lead experienced guy out there. -- least experienced. >> don't say that. >> okay. it was, not funny to see but interesting to see a national, international story unfold before me. i have never seen so many journalists in one spot at one time. so what kind of bothered me a little bit because we were becoming a story and, the, the actual story was being overshadowed out the police were arresting journalists. how the journalists were being in the way sometimes. so, i think that it is important from now on that we learn from the situation and to learn to report the story and not

they lied about michael brown, too. earlier tonight, st. louis mayor told chris hayes, department of justice, that the fbi would be doing the investigation of this case. >> we're on the heels of this, particularly with the shooting of michael brown in ferguson, missouri. we think that helped but we understand there is still a high level of emotion and anger, and what we do for now matters. we want to make sure we get it right. that's important. >> joining me now from ferguson, missouri is msnbc's tremendoane. matt pierce, an l.a. times national reporter. matt pierce, first of all to shaw, the police reaction to this shooting and the response to it, anyway, their openness about the information about it seems to be very different than what happened in ferguson. >> yeah, i think that's true. you saw the police try to release an account of what happened with the shooting as soon as possible the night it happened. we saw further details released today. and i think they probably learned a lesson from what happened in ferguson in which you saw inf