we come back, bill bradley -- we will sit down with them because if we stood up we would need a bigger studio. we will be back after this. ♪ mark: our guest tonight is a hall of fame expert on pressure and the united -- on russia and the united states, former senator bill bradley. thank you for making your debut. senator bradley: it is my honor to be here with you. i love the set. mark: i want to talk about what is going on in indiana and now arkansas. what does it say about the political parties in america, how this thing has become such a big deal? senator bradley: one of the parties is moving away from what the mainstream is. the mainstream is moving and it is losing the republicans when they make these kind of decisions. mark: your party has not always supported equal rights for gays and lesbians. the president came out relatively recently as well as you. did that give you some pause in saying republicans are behind the times? senator bradley: i would hope that they could move over and put this issue behind us and move forward. mark: by doing what? senator bradley: by sayi

code. hearing from former senators bob packwood and bill bradley. both of whom were part of the 1986 tax deal under president reagan. senator orrin hatch of utah chairs the committee.mevñf+t>ó' >> today's hearing is about the need for tax reform and what lessons we can learn from the tax reform act of 18986. the last successful overhaul of the united states tax code. we have before us today two former senators who were key to that effort. i don't know why they call you former senators. i think you're always going to be senators to me. i look forward to hearing their thoughts and advice, and i think we all do, during today's 8>(l hearing.07ytñ before we engage meaningfully in tax reform, we need a clear vision of what we want success to look like. a vision is not a specific system of rates, of deductions or credits. instead, a vision is how we want to change the opportunities for american families and the rewards that americans receive from their labor. entrepreneurship, and investment. a successfully reformed tax rç$ system will help make america the best place in the world to <

make the numbers in tax reform work. that is the tough work of legislating. senator bill bradley was the intellectual godfather of the reform plan that broadened the base, closed loopholes, and kept progressivity in the code. senator bradley lit the fire that got the reagan administration invested in reform. and i don't think anyone would question my judgment that senator bradley had by a wide margin the best jump shot in the senate tall guy caucus. now if there's one obvious similarity between 1986 and today it's that people are quick to say that tax reform is absolutely impossible. americans say congress can't organize a two-car parade. there's no way they could come to the on major economic legislation. so what happened three decades ago needs to happen again. turning the impossible into the possible. the congress and president reagan came to the to pass the 1986 tax reform act based on what i call principled bipartisanship. one side wanted to flatten the tax code. the other side wanted to close loopholes and guarantee that the tax code treated everyone fairly. both sides said we'

oao people. bill bradley was in that group, and christine todd whitman, and jim leach -- >> they were interns, as i recall. >> yeah, interns. it was just a fun group of people. >> art laffer, dick cheney, and i would have dinner from time to time, or lunch from time to time, or just have meetings in the white house from time to time. >> in 1974, we came to the hotel washington to the two continents restaurant. that's where we sat down and talked about tax policy. and art drew the laffer curve. >> i invited jude wanniski, who was a writer for "the wall street journal" at the time. he passed on. but he kept all the records of this stuff. and in an article much later, it was called "taxes, revenues, and the 'laffer curve'." he recounted this dinner. so it was the four of us. that is the dinner we are talking about today. >> during that time, what we were trying to do was manage the transition from the nixon administration to the ford administration. there had never been anything like it. >> and the country was faced with some serious economic problems. and what was coming up through the

amateur sports protection act, turned into law end of '92, it was proposed by bill bradley who was then a senator from new jersey. >> reporter: and former nba great. >> former nba great. and the idea was he wanted to make sports gambling illegal from a federal perspective. >> reporter: and what was he trying to protect? what was the argument made? >> the argument was - the argument for anybody who's against sports betting is always protecting the integrity of the game. they don't want match fixing. they don't want game fixing to be a part of the conversation whether it's at the professional level or at the college level. >> reporter: game fixing is trying to change the outcome of a game through illegal means. someone who's got money riding on a certain outcome persuades a player or a referee, often by bribing them, to fix a game or shave off a few points. and it's not some phantom issue, it happens. it happens in college sports, it happens in professional sports. >> reporter: when new jersey made its attempt at legalizing betting at the state level, all the major sports leagues, th

respect" to hillary clinton, when you're choosing between baskets and containers, bill bradley will tell you always go with the baskets. john: right. ♪ mark: on the show tonight, the tablet, the barrel and the dollar bill. first, governor mike pence of indiana is struggling to make his religious freedom law not to look like an anti-gay law. he has gotten hot tamale criticism from ceos and others. it is enough to make someone go through reflection leading up to a news conference earlier today. gov. p

. chris ban bill, bradley cooper, they are. >> why are they not entitled to equal pay? these top executives for minor and major film studios 100% white? 94% male. these guys are the ones in charge of financing, green lighting all these films. they're controlling the narrative. you're telling me that, you know women aren't entitled to equal pay? john: well, i don't think anybody's entitled to equal pay. everybody should be paid whatever the market would bear. but some e-mails got leaked that revealed executives saying the women didn't ask for it they didn't push as hard. >> yeah. she said i'm not going to give them something they didn't ask for. if they -- you know i'm not going to give them more money, basically, in a nutshell. but there have been more and more stars fighting back at that, demanding i'm going to be paid just as much as my male counterpart, and it's been happening more and more. john: and reese witherspoon started a production company for only women. >> yes, she did. john: that's a much better way to change things than to ask government to do i. >> absolutely. she

terry sanford. and bill bradley. and all of whom believe a major point of an institution was not to serve itself but to serve the ideas within it. that it to say that there was not enough to go by the building that have you to salute what it meant. i got here because bill friday. we had worked together on the night intercollegiate athletics that was ran and financed. and i said. i don't know what i will do when i retire into he said come to chapel hill. into i said you got the it. it came. it was wonderful to be in the place that is was admired for so long. one day he said to me as we were worried about the meaning of hiring a big-time coach who immediately had discovered to his surprise of course that what had to him before was happening to him here which was some of his outlying an add junction assist and the were doing funny things with the players and access to money he said. you know. i was talking to a young woman who is here in the university who seems to know some things that are very disturbing if true. and i told her well i can't do too much to help. why not go over to tal

. >> but when bill -- was it one of the -- bill frist made a promise to bill bradley. he said remember that promise i made, it's going to come due. this guy is making promises to democrats, that would hurt him. but is that is the grease of politics. >> it's true. someone has to come up with a temporary form of e-mail that just disappeared. >> snapchat. >> oh, that's great. that will reform our bad impulses. >> right. that is "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts now. >>> thanks for joining us at this hour. there is a lot of competition for the top news in this country right now. we'll have more about what has happened in ferguson, missouri, over the past 24 hours where two police officers were released from the hospital today after being shot late last night outside ferguson police headquarters while protests against the ferguson pd was just winding down. that story has gone off like a shock wave in the already incredibly anxious racial environment around ferguson, missouri, and the policing of that community. there are further developments in that story still brea

. >> thank you, mr. chairman. senator wyden. to chairman packwood, to my friend bill bradley, it's great to see you. just great to see you. i was talking with brian sealander the other day, whom you graciously sent to me when you withdrew from the presidential race, sent him to delaware, signed him up to my senate race, and one of the reasons why i'm here today is because of that kind gift along with sean barney and a couple of others who came as well. so, thank you for all of them. couple of years ago, we're having a hearing on the issue of deficit reduction and we had a bunch of really smart people here to talk to us that day too. one of them was alan blinder. has been the vice chairman of the federal reserve. back now teaching economics at some school in new jersey, starts with a p. princeton. that's it. anyway, in his testimony he said to us in terms of deficit reduction, 800-pound gorilla in the room is health care costs. says if we don't get our arms around that, we're doomed. he said more than that, but that was the sum and substance of what he said. we had a chance to ask questions.

that? bill bradley did that. he went all over the country as senator from new jersey generating support for tax reform in 1986. and it was a fairly good piece of legislation, which ronald reagan endorsed. but he hit the hustings. >> well, didn't president obama do that with health care? wasn't he out there beating the drums and...? >> but the wrong kind. >> what do you mean? >> he wouldn't further what he said he believes in-- single payer, full medicare for all--because he said, "it's not practical." which is another way of saying, "i can't take on the supremely popular health insurance companies and drug companies," right? he wasn't worried. as a result, his system will not restrain the enormous costs that are increasing. it'll leave 30 million people still uninsured after it's fully implemented. and it's so complex that it opened itself up to attacks and parity by the republicans. you know, the canadians got full health care for everybody. they do it on half the cost--$4,500 per capita a year. we spend $8,500 per capita a year, 50 million people uncovered. our obamacare is 1,500 page

president, bill bradley stepped forward to challenge him. speaking of gore his name is resurfacing. at least among democrats craving a competition. he's heading to iowa in may to fire up activists about global warming. there's a lot of chatter recently in some democratic circles about a gore return but i'm told by a person close to the former vice president he has no plans of running 16 years after he fell short. it's a sign that at least part of the democratic party is still interested in a few more options for 2016. >> stay right there. let's bring in cnn chief political analyst gloria borger. >> al gore? al gore? >> you heard jeff mention 30% of democrats are out there saying they want an alternative. is that opening? are their voices loud enough for one of these guys to toss his hat into the ring to take on hillary clinton? >> maybe, you know you saw jeff's piece talking about martin o'malley who really seems to be tip-toeing into this. there's another number in our poll that all these democrats are paying attention to and that is that 86% approval rating among democratic voters fo

. back to back games. no bradley bill tonight and it did cost them. the wizards free fall continuing right in front of us. another loss tonight. this one coming in milwaukee against a bucks team currently right on their heels in the eastern conference standings. nine consecutive road losses now for randy whitman's team. fans not thrilled about the road losing streak. pick it up in the third quarter. paul pierce's pass goes to no one. williams grabs it slams it home. bucks take a 15-point lead. fourth quarter, the wizards, they did battle back. they're down one here. john wall with a quick move. gets that to drop and one. he did miss the free-throw. later, tied at 84. middleton. misses the three. the wizards can't get a rebound throw. middleton does not miss twice. had a game high 30 points. wizards lose third straight on the road. >>> college basketball special day for senior day at georgetown. adams haven't played since the freshman year because of a heart condition. in the starting lineup today. they got a waiver to suit him up. ten second into the game, adam has his moment. throws

, bill bradley stepped up. he's heading to iowa in may to fire up the activists about global warming. >> is that -- >> al gore. >> possible that al gore might think about running against hillary clinton. >> i don't think al gore has done anything to encourage us to believe that he is eager to leave his life right now and get back into politics. democrats generally like the shiny new thing. they don't like going back a generation. hillary clinton is the exception because there's a sense in the party, because she's a woman that she can unite the various factions of the party and she becomes the new thing by vir shoe chew of her gender. will the democrats want to go back to a gore or john kerry? i don't think so. >> he's doing stuff he hasn't done over the past several years. >> he is. he's sienggning up activists at a conference to support him on his global warming effort. a friend said he's enjoying the speculation giving interviews but i'm with gloria i don't think we'll get a gore. >> you also mentioned john kerry's name. >> he hasn't ruled it out. >> he hasn't ruled it out. if hill

network affiliates are there, and the president talks to me, and i chat a bit. bill bradley's here, you know how valuable he was for us on this, and i wonder if you could say a few words to him. the things that irritate me. he makes national television from appearing on the local affiliate in portland and i don't get covered nationwide. >> the morell vant point is, it was because of my respect for bob pacwood that i decided to join him in the middle of my campaign. i think that's probably not happened a lot. >> oh, that was well done. >> i have a lot of respect for both of you, you've been both great senators, and you've both done a lot for this country. and we're very proud -- senator widen has -- >> i'm going to be brief, and thank you both for that simplicity. discussion. i thought for a long time that this insanely complicated tax code plays right into the hands of the special interests and the lobbyists. and it's going to be even more challenging today than it was in '86. we would be talking about guchy gulch, there were these wonderful descriptions about the lobbyists who wou

up, the abortion language in the bill. and bradley myles to you first, we know it says in so many words that government money could not be used to pay for an abortion for victims unless they were the victim of a rape in a coerced circumstances. without weighing in on the merits of abortion or not what difference could that make, do you believe for the young people we're talking about the young women who say we're pregnant? >> so for us we're a direct service provider for victims of trafficking. and we know when someone comes out of one of these situations they describe being in a situation of total control. they have been raped. they've been sexually assaulted. they've had so much of their life controlled. and so when we're providing services we want to create a spectrum that is as wide as possible and as empowering as possible and let them chart the course of their own services and not put limits on what is possible. and so sometimes there's a debate about would this cover this or would this cover that. and could you always define it as rape or not. and we didn't even want to get

much colder. >> goodbye bill karins. >>> still ahead, "american sniper" star bradley cooper set to make his directorial debut. that doesn't mean he's standing behind the camera. we'll tell you, the pop diva he reportedly wants to star alongside him. we'll be right back. how do crest 3d white whitestrips compare to a whitening toothpaste? let's see. the paste didn't seem to do much for me. the whitestrips made a huge difference. that's not fair! crest whitestrips work below the enamel surface to whiten 25 times better than the leading whitening toothpaste. crest whitestrips. the way to whiten hey, you forgot the milk! that's lactaid®. right. 100% real milk just without the lactose. so you can drink all you want... ...with no discomfort? exactly. here, try some... mmm, it is real milk. see? delicious. hoof bump! oh. right here girl, boom! lactaid®. 100% real milk. no discomfort. and for a tasty snack that's 100% real dairy try lactaid® cottage cheese. ♪ ♪ >>> i'm being told we're going to check on the other headlines with lewis. lewis? >> thanks mika. "mad man" start jon hamm

to the governor's desk who has not said if he will sign the bill. >> authorities have found an underground bunker near seattle that's believed to have been used by a bank robber investigators say the bunker belongs to bradley robinet who spent five years on the run before he was arrested last summer. inside the bunker authorities found a could the cot blast i can bags, shells with bottles. they believe he may have built other bunkers while he was on the run. >>> coming up: nick foles is out, the new guy didn't even play last season, we'll break down the birds' big trade move. boy, there have been so many this week alone. big daddy graham is up next. at subway, we begin with freshly-baked-bread; then combine tender turkey-breast, with robust, spicy, melty italian favorites; adding a splash of our new subway vinaigrette. the magnificent new turkey italiano melt. only at subway. >> sue serio tracking radar. >> playing six's music because we do expect it to get to 60, maybe even more, by the end of the day today. now, if you look out to the west of us, see, there is more rain on th

baskets and containers, though bradley will tell you always go with the baskets. john: right. ♪ mark: the tablet and the barrel and the dollar bill. governor mike pence of

bradley in los angeles discussing the report on higher education for police in 1979 right after a woman named yula love was killed by the police because she had not paid her gas bill and when the gas man came to turn the gas off she took a shovel and told him to leave. he wouldn't and she whacked him on the arm with a shovel and when he called the police and they pulled up and she appeared with a knife, they pointed guns at her saying drop the knife she didn't so they shot and killed her. that is an example of an argument that can be made that it was a threat to life but it was unnecessary because the police could have used other tactics to de-escalate the situation. it was disproportionate to the underlying offense which was misdemeanor assault and certainly not worthy of a pre-trial death penalty. more importantly perhaps because there are situations where offenders kill people and the police in london encountered someone who had just beheaded an 80-year-old woman with a machete and they managed to take that man into custody alive. it would be difficult for the police in the uni

chance to give examples, is very important. it goes back to mayor bradley of los angeles discussing report on higher education with police right after a woman named eula love was killed by police. she hadn't paid her gas bill. when the gas man came to turn her gas off, she told him to leave and he wouldn't. she took a shovel and whacked him on the arm. when the police pulled up she and in the front door of her house with a knife. the police pulled out their guns and pointed them at her and said drop the knife. she didn't so they shot her and killed her. there's more details to it. but essentially it's an example of an argument that can be made that there was a threat to life but it was an unnecessary confrontation because the police could have used other tactics to deescalate the situation. number one it was disproportionate to the underlying offense which was a simple assault, misdemeanor assault and certainly not worthy of in fact, a pretrial death penalty. more importantly perhaps because there are situations where offenders kill people. the police in london encountered somebody