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weeks ago, i returned from a world wind trip to the middle east, africa, and europe. during the trip, i met with senior leaders, and had the opportunity to dialogue with quite a few of our partner nations, and most importantly, i visited with the and men. let me tell you, the airmen are doing a fantastic job each and every day, helping to keep us safe. i'm proud to call myself an airmen along their side. [applause] just a few moments, i want to tell you a little bit about where i have been and what i learned from my trip, give you a couple of the key takeaways that i shared, and also give you an overall update from my perspective on the conduct of the air campaign. then, i want to finish up with that is wanted more of by the united states. i'm talking about reconnaissance, and specifically, the remotely piloted aircraft. drones, we call them do not. pilotedthem remotely aircraft. the first stop on my trip was the dubai air show which is considered the fastest growing and show in the world. there were about 61 countries represented their, showcasing capabilities in both defense a
weeks ago, i returned from a world wind trip to the middle east, africa, and europe. during the trip, i met with senior leaders, and had the opportunity to dialogue with quite a few of our partner nations, and most importantly, i visited with the and men. let me tell you, the airmen are doing a fantastic job each and every day, helping to keep us safe. i'm proud to call myself an airmen along their side. [applause] just a few moments, i want to tell you a little bit about where i have been and...
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terrorist safe havens in north africa. we do not maintain guantÁnamo as we want to. we maintain it because it is in the best interest of our national security to do so. in this way one, no it's not silly jennies from historical practice. it is in plain terms the humane military prison. the unpleasant but inescapable necessity of any conflict well grounded in the war -- laws of war. unfortunately those hostilities have not ended and in fact they have -- we remain engaged in a long war against radical islamic jihad. it is not a war we started but it is a war we are committed to winning to this long war has no front lines and no specific theaters traditionally understood in the weapons of our opponents are not merely conventional ideological. islamic state and al qaeda use modern social media encrypted communication apps to radicalize individuals across the globe including our fellow americans to spur them to attacks with him. with him to resolve the bitter fruits of his tactics and paris and days ago in california. this is why we need a detention facility like guantÁnamo. it is a de
terrorist safe havens in north africa. we do not maintain guantÁnamo as we want to. we maintain it because it is in the best interest of our national security to do so. in this way one, no it's not silly jennies from historical practice. it is in plain terms the humane military prison. the unpleasant but inescapable necessity of any conflict well grounded in the war -- laws of war. unfortunately those hostilities have not ended and in fact they have -- we remain engaged in a long war against...
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operating in north africa and east africa. in thee operating caucuses. that is a threat that is real. inspired orther directed attacks in europe, the united states, and elsewhere. ,hey are an existential threat not to the united states, but to some of our friends and neighbors in the region. and they present a significant threat to u.s. national interests. the president said in the strategy to destroy isis or isil , and we are working through that now. that is a worthy objective that i sign completely up to. that organization, as an entity, needs to be destroyed. even when they are, the systemic threat of radicals in the muslim realm has to be addressed by the muslim people in through big governments and economic development. those two are put at the top of my list. -- you also have an issue with iran. but the heat got turned off a little with the signing of the agreement. so we will see. time will tell on whether iran breaks the agreement or not. if they do, i think appropriate things will kick into place. i think the temperature has been lowered a bit. malign actorll a in the regio
operating in north africa and east africa. in thee operating caucuses. that is a threat that is real. inspired orther directed attacks in europe, the united states, and elsewhere. ,hey are an existential threat not to the united states, but to some of our friends and neighbors in the region. and they present a significant threat to u.s. national interests. the president said in the strategy to destroy isis or isil , and we are working through that now. that is a worthy objective that i sign...
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have been trying to downplay their own role within their affiliate organizations across north africa and the middle east. contrasting that with isis's declaration of being an actual state, and their use of violence. the other aspect -- daveed is here. mr. gartenstein-ross: don't go away. mr. fritz: the ultimate d.c. action move is being linked to your own launch. mr. gartenstein-ross: my apologies for this. it has been kind of a long week. i want to fundamentally give a shout out to jason, the team who worked on this. a phenomenal team. i want you to finish, and then i might say a thing or two. i apologize again for being late to my own launch event. mr. fritz: particularly putting the focus on politics, with silence supporting politics. they are trying to present themselves to the muslim population of the world as a more reasonable alternative to the islamic state. that is really about it. one last sentence, and then i will hand it over to you. mr. gartenstein-ross: to pick up on that, one concept that comes up a lot in my work is what i refer to as consensus areas. areas where virt
have been trying to downplay their own role within their affiliate organizations across north africa and the middle east. contrasting that with isis's declaration of being an actual state, and their use of violence. the other aspect -- daveed is here. mr. gartenstein-ross: don't go away. mr. fritz: the ultimate d.c. action move is being linked to your own launch. mr. gartenstein-ross: my apologies for this. it has been kind of a long week. i want to fundamentally give a shout out to jason, the...
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africa, the middle east. would you consider sending forces to assist in those counter-terrorism hubs? and for secretary carter, in the incremental additions that have been made to the u.s. presence in iraq, at this point, if there are additional troops that would be announced, would those be coming out of the white house, or does the pentagon have the authority to continue to add troops if you deem it necessary? sec. fallon: on the first, we're not proposing to send combat troops back into iraq or into syria. prime minister abadi made it clear to me that they do not want to see british troops on the ground there, and i don't want to see american troops there. they realize the security has to be achieved in areas that have been liberated from isil-daesh by homegrown forces that can enjoy the support and confidence of the sunni areas. that can't be done by western boots on the ground. so far as other countries are concerned, in countries in libya, yes, we've been working for a political settlement there. and if we can achieve a political settlement, which, as you know, is being negotia
africa, the middle east. would you consider sending forces to assist in those counter-terrorism hubs? and for secretary carter, in the incremental additions that have been made to the u.s. presence in iraq, at this point, if there are additional troops that would be announced, would those be coming out of the white house, or does the pentagon have the authority to continue to add troops if you deem it necessary? sec. fallon: on the first, we're not proposing to send combat troops back into...
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analysts. not just in the greater middle east, but including north africa. having bruce hoffman here is just a particular honor. i have been waiting to say this all day, bruce is actually -- bruce has actually been studying terrorism as long as i have known my fiancee, over 40 years. which says a lot about both of us. in terms of our perseverance and our ability to conclude things. [laughter] and also, truth in advertising, bruce is also my boss, he is the director for strategic studies at georgetown university, one of the premier national security education programs, not just in washington but the entire country. he has had long service there, and ran, literally one of the most recognized experts in the world and he just completed an important term as a commission that improved workings of the fbi and how they have adopted to dealing with transnational terrorism and radicalization after 9/11. and so to have him here to play -- put a capstone on all that, that is really important. and then, to round out the panel we have sarah carter. you have probably heard about her, the character
analysts. not just in the greater middle east, but including north africa. having bruce hoffman here is just a particular honor. i have been waiting to say this all day, bruce is actually -- bruce has actually been studying terrorism as long as i have known my fiancee, over 40 years. which says a lot about both of us. in terms of our perseverance and our ability to conclude things. [laughter] and also, truth in advertising, bruce is also my boss, he is the director for strategic studies at...
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africa might not work here. might not work. -- we should see things as they are and then we should learn from other experiences. but we should not copy them because they might not work. for instant, there is a lot of israelout boycotting because of what happened for south africa. which i believe is wrong because i think that we should boycott givingwho are anti- palestinian rights. or who arere against pro-occupation. for those who do not believe in collaboration or coexistence. you do not boycott the whole entity, those who are supporting the cause and to those who are against the cause. basically, what worked for south africa will not work in our case, in israel and palestine. s.at is why i am against bd that is why a believed i had clogged is the answer. maybe that was the -- that is why i believe dialogue is the answer in our case. that to iin the sense believe that in trying to reach out to the other, we need to bring the good in the other. withis what i am against trump and his speeches where he is trying, like mccarthy before him, he is trying to bring the evil in the indivi
africa might not work here. might not work. -- we should see things as they are and then we should learn from other experiences. but we should not copy them because they might not work. for instant, there is a lot of israelout boycotting because of what happened for south africa. which i believe is wrong because i think that we should boycott givingwho are anti- palestinian rights. or who arere against pro-occupation. for those who do not believe in collaboration or coexistence. you do not...
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pledges allegiance to groups outside of syria and iraq? whether it is africa or the middle east? are they subordinating authority,to isil's or are they more technical submissions to the they get this?ing from reason i ask, ultimately, is it possible that we might see some of these groups do to isil what isil did to al qaeda? after originally eating a part of it, thank you. >> i think it is a phenomenal question. group.wer depends on the some cases, there is a clear subordination. number one, you have the pledge. second, is the pledge accepted? some cases, it has not. --isian groups have played pledged, but some have not. third, look at isil leadership. isil's strongest hub -- state ground in libya gives it the ability to have a command of control hub. i think it would be likeliest ald be -- boko hoaram, group that tends to be difficult to control. then you get into the question, if the andral leadership weakens it starts acting out ways that defies it, that is the kind of thing for both organizations that creates a potential for a tailspin. case has dealt with that for a number of ye
pledges allegiance to groups outside of syria and iraq? whether it is africa or the middle east? are they subordinating authority,to isil's or are they more technical submissions to the they get this?ing from reason i ask, ultimately, is it possible that we might see some of these groups do to isil what isil did to al qaeda? after originally eating a part of it, thank you. >> i think it is a phenomenal question. group.wer depends on the some cases, there is a clear subordination. number...
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failed to do that. -- the 1998 east africa embassy bomber to the federal court in new york for trial in a series of other evens soured the mood on capitol hill. it was during 2009 and every year since that the democrats that controlled congress and the republicans controlled congress in the house, passed a series of restrictions barring the president from bringing detainees the united states. which was inevitably a part of his so-called closure program. we are pleased to have senator cotton here to discuss the play today. back when the president was elected, isis was never they are today. now, the breadth of isis and transnational terrorism, senator cotton has prepared a thought-provoking series of opinion,n why his closing guantanamo bay today makes little sense. [applause] thank you for the kind introduction and warm welcome. month marks the anniversary to close want from obey. he chose this initiative out of all of the issues he faced, the subject of his very first executive order. the first of very many executive orders. he states the signing of it in grand fashion in the oval office
failed to do that. -- the 1998 east africa embassy bomber to the federal court in new york for trial in a series of other evens soured the mood on capitol hill. it was during 2009 and every year since that the democrats that controlled congress and the republicans controlled congress in the house, passed a series of restrictions barring the president from bringing detainees the united states. which was inevitably a part of his so-called closure program. we are pleased to have senator cotton...
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where you come out five years later -- stokely eventually moves to africa, embraces and african pan-afric -- embraces an socialism. then, a professor on the use of opium and laudanum in the 19th century. >> the attitude at the time was that a woman should not drink. why would lot of them be something that she could look to as an alternative -- would laudanum be something she could look to as an alternative? to theer: we looked back 2000 campaign of al gore as he toured the state of new hampshire. mr. gore: you have seen new hampshire change from a time when you were losing 10,000 jobs a year to a time now where you are gaining 12,000 jobs a year. and that is partly because we have had fiscal responsibility. president clinton and i have put in place an economic plan that has balanced the budget, turned the biggest deficit into the biggest surplus. announcer: al gore went on to win the democratic nomination, but lost the general election to george bush, in one of america's highly contested presidential elections. american history tv, all weekend, every weekend, only on c-span3. announ
where you come out five years later -- stokely eventually moves to africa, embraces and african pan-afric -- embraces an socialism. then, a professor on the use of opium and laudanum in the 19th century. >> the attitude at the time was that a woman should not drink. why would lot of them be something that she could look to as an alternative -- would laudanum be something she could look to as an alternative? to theer: we looked back 2000 campaign of al gore as he toured the state of new...
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affiliate organizations across north africa and the middle east. contrasting that with isis' declaration of being an actual state, and their use of violence. the other aspect -- daveed is here. mr. fritz: don't go away. the ultimate d.c. power move is being late to your own launch. my apologies for this. it has been kind of a long week. i want to fundamentally give a shout out to jason, the team who worked on this. a phenomenal team. i want you to finish, and then i might say a thing or two. i apologize again for being late to my own launch event. mr. fritz: particularly putting the focus on politics, with violence supporting politics. they are trying to present themselves to the muslim population of the world as a more reasonable alternative to the islamic state. that is really about it. one last sentence, and then i will hand it over to you. mr. gartenstein-ross: to pick up on that, one concept that comes up a lot in my work is what i refer to as consensus areas. areas where virtual consensus, those of us operating the public sphere, about what particular events mean that
affiliate organizations across north africa and the middle east. contrasting that with isis' declaration of being an actual state, and their use of violence. the other aspect -- daveed is here. mr. fritz: don't go away. the ultimate d.c. power move is being late to your own launch. my apologies for this. it has been kind of a long week. i want to fundamentally give a shout out to jason, the team who worked on this. a phenomenal team. i want you to finish, and then i might say a thing or two. i...
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to have an africa com based in germany, right next to euro command? let me start out with a fairly -- and let me add onto that 1 -- is in there now and need, as much as we are trying to reduce and streamlined, is in there now a need for a cyber command, given the nature of that threat? general? general schwartz: the original thinking on north com was concerned about having assigned forces to a senior officer, with responsibilities for the u.s. and domestic circumstances. foreclosed at the time the possibility of having a joint command for both north and south america. in this time, now, with the passage of time to consolidate both of those organizations, as the admiral suggested, the africa wasor ferent.t differen it was the place it on the continent. senator mccain: that did not turn out very well. general schwartz: it did not create but you see ho. but you see with the passage of time, it is a good way -- that is an act of consolidation that certainly makes sense to me. and with respect to cyber com, yes, once they have assigned forces, it is time to establish cyber com as indepe
to have an africa com based in germany, right next to euro command? let me start out with a fairly -- and let me add onto that 1 -- is in there now and need, as much as we are trying to reduce and streamlined, is in there now a need for a cyber command, given the nature of that threat? general? general schwartz: the original thinking on north com was concerned about having assigned forces to a senior officer, with responsibilities for the u.s. and domestic circumstances. foreclosed at the time...
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news. she is originally from south africa. she reported from all over the world. from zimbabwe about ebola. she was the only journalists from an american network in baghdad during the american invasion in 2003. spent nearly five years in iraq after that. took some very dangerous assignments in afghanistan. wasare in a vehicle that struck by an antitank mine. in aas in another ambush convoy along the afghanistan pakistan border. she has also won an emmy, and edward r. murrow award and an overseas press club award. she was sexually assaulted by a mob during the revolution in egypt. she has talked about that on 60 minutes. she has returned to the middle justwar zones and returned in september from the frontlines against isis. for 60 minutes also. asking what by motivates you to do this job. some people who do it our .drenaline junkies some people are motivated by humanitarian considerations. matthew, you said your goal as a foreign correspondent was to be a radical obituary writer. matthew: that is sort of a that ace to a term phosphor uses about breathability. whose lives matter and wh
news. she is originally from south africa. she reported from all over the world. from zimbabwe about ebola. she was the only journalists from an american network in baghdad during the american invasion in 2003. spent nearly five years in iraq after that. took some very dangerous assignments in afghanistan. wasare in a vehicle that struck by an antitank mine. in aas in another ambush convoy along the afghanistan pakistan border. she has also won an emmy, and edward r. murrow award and an...
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think we should seriously consider merging north and south com and emerging u com and africa com. there are obvious deficiencies in doing so, operational additional benefits that derive. and i think finally, it is a way to begin reducing what has been correctly identified as the bloat in the operational combatant command staffs. would associate myself with general schwartz and a number of others who have testified with the idea that we should consider independent, general staff in strengthening the role of the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. practice, as a combatant commander, i would very typically all the chairman. check signals with the chairman. i would not undertake a radical departure without talking to the chairman. inhink putting the chairman the chain of command, as general schwartz as outlined and a number of other witnesses have mentioned, is efficient, sensible, and frankly, codifies what is in effect today in many ways. in addition, i think the chairman would be well served with what some have termed a general staff. this is the idea of taking midgrade militar
think we should seriously consider merging north and south com and emerging u com and africa com. there are obvious deficiencies in doing so, operational additional benefits that derive. and i think finally, it is a way to begin reducing what has been correctly identified as the bloat in the operational combatant command staffs. would associate myself with general schwartz and a number of others who have testified with the idea that we should consider independent, general staff in...
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interested in women. women produce most of the world's food. for example, in sub-saharan africa, women perform 80% of agricultural labor. and over 50% of such labor worldwide. but it is also true that women land, even though study after study has shown that children's caloric intake is highly coordinated with women property rights. the food and agricultural organization calculates that if women farmers were given the same assistance as men in terms of land extension agents and training, malnutrition would drop 70% globally. remuneration capital on crops is only given to those who own the land. the men. this is despite the fact that study after study has shown that over 90% of a woman's earnings go to her family. the only 40% to 60% of a man's earnings go to his family. we know that women are expected to process food, find fuel, find potable water, on top of their other responsibilities with children and agricultural work. they have a triple commitment of time throughout the day. women are often, however, expected to eat last. or to eat food of poor quality. this is shown in the fact th
interested in women. women produce most of the world's food. for example, in sub-saharan africa, women perform 80% of agricultural labor. and over 50% of such labor worldwide. but it is also true that women land, even though study after study has shown that children's caloric intake is highly coordinated with women property rights. the food and agricultural organization calculates that if women farmers were given the same assistance as men in terms of land extension agents and training,...
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can sell products in clean energy all across the asian pacific and in europe and in africa. suddenly there's a big monetary incentive to getting this right. and that's been the history of environmental progress in this country, and now we've exported it around the world. every time we've made a decision, you know what, we're going to have clean air, the predictions were everything would fall apart, and lo and behold, turns out that american innovation makes getting clean air a lot less expensive than people expected, and it happened a lot faster than expected. when we made a decision that we were going to double fuel efficiency standards on cars everybody said, this is going to ruin the american auto industry. the american auto industry has been booming over the last couple of years. acid rain. when george h.w. bush instituted a system to charge for the emissions that were causing acid rain, everybody said, you can't do that, it's going to ruin business. it turned out it was smoother, faster, quicker, better and acid rain, folks who were born -- some of you reporters are getting youn
can sell products in clean energy all across the asian pacific and in europe and in africa. suddenly there's a big monetary incentive to getting this right. and that's been the history of environmental progress in this country, and now we've exported it around the world. every time we've made a decision, you know what, we're going to have clean air, the predictions were everything would fall apart, and lo and behold, turns out that american innovation makes getting clean air a lot less...
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it should have some legitimate grounds such as africa, such as india, or there should be some mechanisms to provide them cheaper, sustainable energy sources. other than that, we cannot oblige african countries, india, other poor countries, to choose for the more expensive options in the absence of providing any incentives for them. therefore, i believe there will be an agreement, hopefully in paris and hopefully there will e an agreement where all important, if not all countries are signing, but how this agreement is put together, will be very important in the context of having all major emerging countries onboard. and this means that one should look at the economic development prospects together and once again, i would be urging the countries to come up with some pragmatic solutions here rather than dogmatic policies that will go across the board to all the countries, the same policies. i think it wouldn't work. i hope and i'm confident that we will come up with some solution which will get the different sensitivities of different parties in paris. sarah: and sticking with th
it should have some legitimate grounds such as africa, such as india, or there should be some mechanisms to provide them cheaper, sustainable energy sources. other than that, we cannot oblige african countries, india, other poor countries, to choose for the more expensive options in the absence of providing any incentives for them. therefore, i believe there will be an agreement, hopefully in paris and hopefully there will e an agreement where all important, if not all countries are signing,...
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role within their affiliate organizations across north africa and the middle east. contrasting that with isis' declaration of being an actual state, and their use of violence. aveed isr aspect -- d here. don't gonstein-ross: away. ultimate d.c. action move is being linked to your own launch. my gartenstein-ross: apologies for this. it has been kind of a long week. i want to fundamentally give a shout out to jason, the team who worked on this. a phenomenal team. i want you to finish, and then i or two.y a thing i apologize again for being late to my own launch event. particularly putting the focus on politics, with silence supporting politics. they are trying to present themselves to the muslim population of the world as a more reasonable alternative to the islamic state. that is really about it. one last sentence, and then i will hand it over to you. mr. gartenstein-ross: to pick up on that, one concept that comes up a lot in my work is what i refer to as consensus areas. areas where virtual consensus, those of us operating the public sphere, about what particular events being that
role within their affiliate organizations across north africa and the middle east. contrasting that with isis' declaration of being an actual state, and their use of violence. aveed isr aspect -- d here. don't gonstein-ross: away. ultimate d.c. action move is being linked to your own launch. my gartenstein-ross: apologies for this. it has been kind of a long week. i want to fundamentally give a shout out to jason, the team who worked on this. a phenomenal team. i want you to finish, and then i...
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respected analysts. not just in the greater middle east, but including north africa. having bruce hoffman here is just a particular honor. i have been waiting to say this all day, bruce is actually -- bruce has actually been studying terrorism as long as i have known my fiancee, over 40 years. which says a lot about both of us. in terms of our perseverance and our ability to conclude things. [laughter] and also, truth in advertising, bruce is also my boss, he is the director for strategic studies at georgetown university, one of the premier national security education programs, not just in washington but the entire country. he has had long service there, and ran, literally one of the most recognized experts in the world and he just completed an important term as a commission that improved workings of the fbi and how they have adopted to dealing with transnational terrorism and radicalization after 9/11. and so to have him here to play -- put a capstone on all that, that is really important. and then, to round out the panel we have sarah carter. you have probably heard about her, t
respected analysts. not just in the greater middle east, but including north africa. having bruce hoffman here is just a particular honor. i have been waiting to say this all day, bruce is actually -- bruce has actually been studying terrorism as long as i have known my fiancee, over 40 years. which says a lot about both of us. in terms of our perseverance and our ability to conclude things. [laughter] and also, truth in advertising, bruce is also my boss, he is the director for strategic...
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iraq, to yemen, right across into a terrifying link with the home of africa. and fourthly, we can't turn away from this threat and subcontract our obligations. >> here-here. sir duncan: if we are to pursue the destruction of isis daesh and rebuild stable government and underpin wider stability and make all of that a serious and convincing objective of our foreign policy, we must be part of the convoy that is trying to do it. we cannot, as i would see it negligently, watch it roll by while not playing our part. put frankly, our reputation, our international reputation, has suffered from the parliamenty vote in august 2013. our allies now question whether we can be relied upon when they call for joint assistance. mr. speaker, if we choose today to remain on the sidelines, especially when there is a new and unequivocal u.n. resolution in place, it would signal to the world that the u.k. has, indeed, chosen to withdraw. mr. speaker, we should not be i the business of national resignation from the world stage. >> here-here! sir duncan: perhaps, indeed, the paradox of opposition today is
iraq, to yemen, right across into a terrifying link with the home of africa. and fourthly, we can't turn away from this threat and subcontract our obligations. >> here-here. sir duncan: if we are to pursue the destruction of isis daesh and rebuild stable government and underpin wider stability and make all of that a serious and convincing objective of our foreign policy, we must be part of the convoy that is trying to do it. we cannot, as i would see it negligently, watch it roll by...
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u.s. has expanded even more role to seek out isis in countries around north africa, the middle east. would you consider sending forces to assist in those counter-terrorism hubs? and for secretary carter, in the incremental additions that have made to the u.s. presence in iraq, at this point, if there are additional troops that would announced, would those be coming out of the white house -- decisions be coming out of the white house, or does the pentagon have the authority to add troops if you deem it necessary? >> on the first, we're not send combat troops back into iraq or into syria. minister abadi made it do not want to see british troops on the ground there and they don't want to see american troops there. they realize the security has to be achieved in areas that have from isil-daesh forces that can enjoy the support and confidence of the sunni areas. can't be done by western boots on the ground. so far as other countries are concerned, in countries in libya, yes, we've been working for a political settlement there. we can achieve a political settlement, which, as you know, is
u.s. has expanded even more role to seek out isis in countries around north africa, the middle east. would you consider sending forces to assist in those counter-terrorism hubs? and for secretary carter, in the incremental additions that have made to the u.s. presence in iraq, at this point, if there are additional troops that would announced, would those be coming out of the white house -- decisions be coming out of the white house, or does the pentagon have the authority to add troops if you...
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. she is originally from south africa. she was the only journalist from an american network in act at during the invasion in 2003. she spent nearly five years in iraq after that. she took some very dangerous assignments in afghanistan. a vehicle that was struck by a mine in 2005. and then later for in another ambush in a convoy along the border. that report 18 dupont columbia university silver baton. also won an overseas press club award and in 2011, covering the egyptian revolution, she was sexually assaulted by a mob and she talked about that on 60 minutes. she has since returned to middle east war zone. reported from the frontlines against isis in iraq on 60 minutes. so thank you very much. let me start by asking, what motivates you to do this job? it seems like some people who do it are adrenaline junkies, there are others who are motivated by humanitarian considerations. was tod that your goal be a radical obituary writer. what did you mean? matthieu aikins: that is a reference to a term that -- she talks about how breathability, in terms of, whose lives matter? she uses the obit
. she is originally from south africa. she was the only journalist from an american network in act at during the invasion in 2003. she spent nearly five years in iraq after that. she took some very dangerous assignments in afghanistan. a vehicle that was struck by a mine in 2005. and then later for in another ambush in a convoy along the border. that report 18 dupont columbia university silver baton. also won an overseas press club award and in 2011, covering the egyptian revolution, she was...
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seen spread throughout the middle east, north africa and south asia in many different forms. we need to figure out how to confront and defeat the threat, and there is no question that isis remains a grave threat to western targets as well as stability in the middle east. the said, i don't think picture is quite as bleak as the chairman portrayed it. yesterdayan article about how isis is beginning to lose some of their supporters because their momentum has been stopped in terms of gathering territory. one of the biggest selling points they had was unlike al qaeda, they held territory and they were growing in terms of the territory they held, so they could recruit people saying we are truly going to build an islamic state. towns in lost a few the campaign we have committed, primarily the work of the kurds has rolled back in certain places and undermined that confidence in the jihadists that they are going to will forward and take everything. the chairman is absolutely correct -- it is not enough to contain isis because as we have seen in paris, beirut, and elsewhere, as long as they exist
seen spread throughout the middle east, north africa and south asia in many different forms. we need to figure out how to confront and defeat the threat, and there is no question that isis remains a grave threat to western targets as well as stability in the middle east. the said, i don't think picture is quite as bleak as the chairman portrayed it. yesterdayan article about how isis is beginning to lose some of their supporters because their momentum has been stopped in terms of gathering...
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africa to the battle of the bulge. he was the best man that we ever had overseas, thank you. >> thank you for the call. of the mentioning some remarks after the muslim-ban proposal that donald trump talked about. he is leading in the polls by over 20 points. this is a tweet from the hill. leading by over 20 points in the first national poll after the muslim ban proposal. it does not appear to be hurting him in the polls, the republican voters. that were surveyed there. i want to let you know that we will have our phone lines back open as we do every morning on "the washington journal." you you can join us at 7:00 a.m. eastern time and in the meantime will take a look back now at the entirety of what the democratic presidential candidates had to say. the former governor of maryland when he visited a mosque today. this is martin o'malley. o'malley: -- >> we do have a very special guest with us today. [indiscernible] show some courtesy and help us to welcome governor martin o'malley. we are facing a very difficult time here. we have people who are attacking our community all of the time.
africa to the battle of the bulge. he was the best man that we ever had overseas, thank you. >> thank you for the call. of the mentioning some remarks after the muslim-ban proposal that donald trump talked about. he is leading in the polls by over 20 points. this is a tweet from the hill. leading by over 20 points in the first national poll after the muslim ban proposal. it does not appear to be hurting him in the polls, the republican voters. that were surveyed there. i want to let you...
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cervical cancer prevention with h.i.v. testing and treatment in africa is a remarkable initiative. so we salute the bipartisanship we supported, of course, president bush with pepfar, we wanted it bigger. he wanted it strong and there we were with something that has saved millions of lives and given hope to people. i visited some of the clinics in africa where pepfar is being administered and some of the people i met said i would have never come to be tested before because there was no reason. i had no hope there would be any remedy or any maintaining that would of life have -- encourage me to risk the stigma of saying i was h.i.v. infected. o, again, it's all about the people. new york today, bono will be observing the 10th anniversary , one, an initiative red one an initiative that helped alleviate poverty, eradicate the disease. we know the work of the melinda and bill gates foundation and what they have done on this issue, particularly in india. and today, i wish i could be in san francisco, where amfar will be saluting the work at university of california-san francisco, by establ
cervical cancer prevention with h.i.v. testing and treatment in africa is a remarkable initiative. so we salute the bipartisanship we supported, of course, president bush with pepfar, we wanted it bigger. he wanted it strong and there we were with something that has saved millions of lives and given hope to people. i visited some of the clinics in africa where pepfar is being administered and some of the people i met said i would have never come to be tested before because there was no reason....
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anymore. nobody asks me about anymore. although we still have some problems in west africa, we have dealt with that problem. we have shown leadership in fighting pandemics. when you are in the midst of it is frightening. but it is solvable. that, i am going to go home. france! >> on the next washington congresswoman susan dell that may talks about an investigation into planned parenthood. she will discuss policing and criminal justice issues. at the pacific standard cover story on the labor economy. we will talk to editor-in-chief nicholas jackson. washington journal is live with your phone calls and your tweet. tweets. book tv has 48 hours of nonfiction books and authors. the 15th annual vegas valley book festival. about thes a word uncontrollable loss of a place that has been pulled out from under your feet. up.place you grow >> pulitzer prize-winning journalist gilbert gaul will talk about college football. >> i don't think the players going to be satisfied with just a couple of thousand dollars. they are smart enough to see where the money is. >> joining the conversation is tom
anymore. nobody asks me about anymore. although we still have some problems in west africa, we have dealt with that problem. we have shown leadership in fighting pandemics. when you are in the midst of it is frightening. but it is solvable. that, i am going to go home. france! >> on the next washington congresswoman susan dell that may talks about an investigation into planned parenthood. she will discuss policing and criminal justice issues. at the pacific standard cover story on the...
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the middle east, africa, venezuela, they are subject to instability of various kinds including civil war and terrorism. while production in certain countries such as iraq, syria, libya, yemen, and sudan has been knocked off-line due to terrorism and violence. the indisputable fact we are dealing with is that north american barrels have largely displaced or largely replaced and disrupted production so far. in tandem with imaginations that opec, the global oil supply is saturated, and may be for some time. we also know that iran, one of the original and most deadly state sponsors of terrorism will soon be rejoining the global oil market. if president obama gets his way, even as he continues to fight efforts by many of us to repeal outdated oil expert ban that would allow us here in this country to send oil to our allies. i think it does beg the question, and part of the discussion hopefully this newing will be with that source of revenue, that iran is anticipating to receive, what do we do with it? what will the intentions of these be? libby did do good and build hospitals? libby to di
the middle east, africa, venezuela, they are subject to instability of various kinds including civil war and terrorism. while production in certain countries such as iraq, syria, libya, yemen, and sudan has been knocked off-line due to terrorism and violence. the indisputable fact we are dealing with is that north american barrels have largely displaced or largely replaced and disrupted production so far. in tandem with imaginations that opec, the global oil supply is saturated, and may be for...
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bush's health care initiatives, etc., u.n. peacekeeping to africa -- is this something we need to expand along with the defense spending for the future, or is this where we have to economize in order to keep our budgets in balance? mr. kasich: in a nutshell -- i think it is very quickly. i get a budget that gets us to balance in eight years, but are not promising you flat taxes and no irs. come on, folks. let's grow up. let's be real about what's going to happen. i would bring the top rate down to 28%. i would have a simplified system. and an increase in the earned income tax credit, so people at the bottom have an incentive to work. in the corporate world, i would bring the corporate rate down to 25%, have expensing in one year, accelerate deceleration. bring all your money back from europe. tax. 6% after that, no more double taxation. that would provide about onepoint in economic -- about growth.t in economic i would move welfare, job training, transportation, and medicaid out of washington, into the states, with greater flexibility, with some guardrails. then i would increase d
bush's health care initiatives, etc., u.n. peacekeeping to africa -- is this something we need to expand along with the defense spending for the future, or is this where we have to economize in order to keep our budgets in balance? mr. kasich: in a nutshell -- i think it is very quickly. i get a budget that gets us to balance in eight years, but are not promising you flat taxes and no irs. come on, folks. let's grow up. let's be real about what's going to happen. i would bring the top rate...
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bishop tutu and the others struggling for freedom in south africa. [applause] we have in the last few years spent more than we can afford. we have pounded our chests and made bold speeches. but we lost 279 young americans in lebanon and we live behind sand bags in washington. how can anyone say that we are safer, stronger, or better? that -- that is the republican record. that its disastrous quality is not more fully understood by the american people i can only attribute to the president's amiability and the failure by some to separate the salesman from the product. [applause] and, now -- now -- now it's up to us. now it's up to you and to me to make the case to america. and to remind americans that if they are not happy with all that the president has done so far, they should consider how much worse it will be if he is left to his radical proclivities for another four years unrestrained. unrestrained. [applause] now, if -- if july -- if july brings back ann gorsuch burford -- what can we expect of december? where would -- where would another four years take us? where would four years
bishop tutu and the others struggling for freedom in south africa. [applause] we have in the last few years spent more than we can afford. we have pounded our chests and made bold speeches. but we lost 279 young americans in lebanon and we live behind sand bags in washington. how can anyone say that we are safer, stronger, or better? that -- that is the republican record. that its disastrous quality is not more fully understood by the american people i can only attribute to the president's...
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africa, middle east, places with weak governments. the state plays less of a role. i think we are seeing this global, broader phenomenon with al qaeda and isis if they are the most prominent subsets in which the state is being challenged. trans-nationalism is possible now in a way that it never was before. al qaeda was notable because it was the first global insurgency. now, transnational is a is very easy. we are also interconnected. you can find transactional operations not just with al qaeda and isis, but with anarchist movements, racialist movements, with groups dedicated to a set of ideals, like anonymous. i am not saying that all of these groups are the same, but they are the same with some state actors that are capable of functioning to some extent at it differs from group to group. to some extent, it is strategic level. the number of countries that have been ripped apart by violence is very high. from syria, mali, libya, iraq. i am not saying it is a failed state, but it is work that hard where you have a violent act or controlling large parts of the territory. i will, not just a
africa, middle east, places with weak governments. the state plays less of a role. i think we are seeing this global, broader phenomenon with al qaeda and isis if they are the most prominent subsets in which the state is being challenged. trans-nationalism is possible now in a way that it never was before. al qaeda was notable because it was the first global insurgency. now, transnational is a is very easy. we are also interconnected. you can find transactional operations not just with al...
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were no black people in africa, there were no white people in europe. we became black-and-white in america. your race is defined differently here than it is in brazil, south africa because race is a social construct and a political construct. but we have -- be careful, though, quoting dr. king out of context. everybody quotes i don't want to be judged by the content of my character by the color of my skin. but he also talks a promissory note that was made for black folks that was never kept. so dr. king talked about that. he also wrote in favor of affirmative action. race is astion of more complicated one, but at the same time, though, i'd appreciate the spirit of the caller. i was born in dayton, ohio, one of the most sensible towns in america. ashink one thing we do learn we talk about macro social issues, like race. i think we get along better than ever, terry. i think people think we are more polarized, but lack folks have voice- getting more of a since obama has been president. guest: by the way, if i remember correctly when dr. with -- dr. king was talking about that schoolor
were no black people in africa, there were no white people in europe. we became black-and-white in america. your race is defined differently here than it is in brazil, south africa because race is a social construct and a political construct. but we have -- be careful, though, quoting dr. king out of context. everybody quotes i don't want to be judged by the content of my character by the color of my skin. but he also talks a promissory note that was made for black folks that was never kept....
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to that place. arab immigrants went to south america, many went to africa, but the u.s. became the home of mostly lebanese and syrian immigrants at the turn-of-the-century through after -- i and immigration was frozen for about 30 years and after it eased up and the flock on arab immigrants tended, there were much more diverse components. today there is a large number of egyptian americans and you many emenicans -- yo americans. you also have moroccans and nigerians coming in in large numbers and interestingly, it is a success story. and all of the data we have income is higher than the national average, ownership of business higher than the national average. yemenis, they went from a short period of time from dockworkers to business owners and their children are in the professional class. doctors, lawyers, and engineers. syrian refugees fleeing the situation in your country them, or thoseof seeking refugee status have that family tie here? >> many of them do. they have a village tie or some kind of connection with the church or the mosque. it is familiar with them and their backgr
to that place. arab immigrants went to south america, many went to africa, but the u.s. became the home of mostly lebanese and syrian immigrants at the turn-of-the-century through after -- i and immigration was frozen for about 30 years and after it eased up and the flock on arab immigrants tended, there were much more diverse components. today there is a large number of egyptian americans and you many emenicans -- yo americans. you also have moroccans and nigerians coming in in large numbers...
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, has to go for the visa waiver program, there are no countries in africa eligible for the visa waiver program. everybody in africa has to go in for an interview to get a visitor's visa. there are only -- singapore, taiwan, japan, and south korea in asia that are eligible. everybody else has to go in for a visa interview system of a visa interview is not a terrible thing. it helps us understand what people are about. i would like to ask unanimous consent to put into the record a letter from the u.s. travel association in favor of this bill. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. lofgren: it's signed by a large number of groups, including the asian american hotel owners association and the travel technology association. why? because it's important for our country that this program, this visa waiver program, be tightened up. that we are assured that it is being operated in the safe and -- in a safe and secure manner. i'm happy we can work together on a bipartisan basis to do this because we are at a time in our country when reckless and racist things are being said about some of
, has to go for the visa waiver program, there are no countries in africa eligible for the visa waiver program. everybody in africa has to go in for an interview to get a visitor's visa. there are only -- singapore, taiwan, japan, and south korea in asia that are eligible. everybody else has to go in for a visa interview system of a visa interview is not a terrible thing. it helps us understand what people are about. i would like to ask unanimous consent to put into the record a letter from the...
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afghanistan and all over north after -- africa and the middle east they don't want radical islam. and in fact in egypt, so proud of the people of egypt, they rose up and said, we don't want radical islam. of course, this president, this administration wants to punish them for throwing out the muslim brother president. but this article back to -- this article, he says, in august, 2015, the f.b.i. arrested a u.s.-born son of a supposedly moderate imam as he began his journey to join isis in syria. he was accompanied by his young university educated american wife who was a convert to islam. that's the quintessential example of the risk involved because the father is supposed to be moderate and we're supposed to think the son subscribes to a violent islam completely different from the father. but there's no evidence of a riff between the father and son. in october, 2014, two u.s.-born teenage girls were nabbed by the f.b.i. as they began their journey to syria. the left wing southern poverty law center lists at least five additional u.s.-born jihadis or would-be jihadis including james, w
afghanistan and all over north after -- africa and the middle east they don't want radical islam. and in fact in egypt, so proud of the people of egypt, they rose up and said, we don't want radical islam. of course, this president, this administration wants to punish them for throwing out the muslim brother president. but this article back to -- this article, he says, in august, 2015, the f.b.i. arrested a u.s.-born son of a supposedly moderate imam as he began his journey to join isis in...
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of africa is waking up. africa is discovering itself and getting confidence. context promoting the chancellor of technology and raising funds for the benefit of developing countries is fundamental. the careful. we need to guard against compelling these countries to choose between economic development and the environment. the commitment to combat the effects of climate change must also take into account the respective development models and their customs. in the countries of the north consumers produce large amount of nondegree double waste, likewise, in developing countries, the fight against plastic bags is a genuine challenge. sleep -- people do not think of getting rid of these bags but rather filling them to meet their needs. this is a question of education. that's why, in both cases, binding regulations are needed. the fight against waste should not be for non--- synonymous with technophobia or a rejection of progress and return to the stone age. on the contrary, advances should be used effectively so as to reduce the impact of global warming. excellencies, ladies and gentleme
of africa is waking up. africa is discovering itself and getting confidence. context promoting the chancellor of technology and raising funds for the benefit of developing countries is fundamental. the careful. we need to guard against compelling these countries to choose between economic development and the environment. the commitment to combat the effects of climate change must also take into account the respective development models and their customs. in the countries of the north consumers...
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black woman, not from africa. i'm black. host: so, audrey, as far as specifics, tell us what you think the president has accomplished, specifically one thing on top of your list. caller: healthcare. the gas prices. he has done a tremendous job with pretty much everything he set out to do as long as they orking with him. host: republican line, fort lauderdale, florida. go ahead, please. caller: hi. i would like to let you know that i know who the winner of the next presidential election is going to be. that will be the american people, because barack obama will be gone. he will go down as one of the most corrupt and ineffective presidents we have ever known. i don't even know where to begin with this man, but i think the biggest damage he's done is to american society. his lack of leadership on law enforcement, buying in to this philosophy of leave me alone, i ain't killed you yet, it's really disgraceful. he's a liar. held by the democratic party with regard to the economy, he says that the economy is doing well. well, the people who actually run the economy, the fed, couldn't ra
black woman, not from africa. i'm black. host: so, audrey, as far as specifics, tell us what you think the president has accomplished, specifically one thing on top of your list. caller: healthcare. the gas prices. he has done a tremendous job with pretty much everything he set out to do as long as they orking with him. host: republican line, fort lauderdale, florida. go ahead, please. caller: hi. i would like to let you know that i know who the winner of the next presidential election is...
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ambassador from south africa, really pulled together the hardliners and pulled g-77 meeting,hole all the developing contry, and even the progressive voices among the developing countries were pretty much silenced. you had this roiling, angry, acrimonious meeting just a month before paris, basically. so i and the two weeks after that there was a session of which happensries every year called the prec.o.p., meeting of ministers, this is bigger than usual, usually about 40 countries, but chaired by the french, and i went to that meeting because of the experience of october very much focused on rekindling a coalition that the e.u. had pulled together fete of durbin -- at the time of durbin to get durbin done. e.u. worked with the island and least developing countries who had interest and perspectives that often are different from china, israel, and brazil. pre-c.o.p. to the very much with a mission to get that coalition restarted and to put the u.s. firmly in that coalition where we had always been on the margins. and to show flexibility in certain areas, different from what we had done all
ambassador from south africa, really pulled together the hardliners and pulled g-77 meeting,hole all the developing contry, and even the progressive voices among the developing countries were pretty much silenced. you had this roiling, angry, acrimonious meeting just a month before paris, basically. so i and the two weeks after that there was a session of which happensries every year called the prec.o.p., meeting of ministers, this is bigger than usual, usually about 40 countries, but chaired...
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pakistan, afghanistan, syria, iraq, tunisia, part s of north africa where you have a lot of support for radical jihad, we're not reviewing the social media even though that is the world? n which they operates. we don't regularly review that and that is a major problem. so -- look. i think if someone is applying for citizenship to the united states, it is entirely reasonable that we ask for their social media contact, their information that -- these people don't radicalize overnight. a lot of them have had public statements. not their private emails. i know that tashfeen malik, maybe her stuff was private. we should have got that anyway. we should have said we want your social media, your private stuff and your public in your private stuff and your public stuff. that is entirely reasonable. why aren't we doing that? like colleges. i represent massachusetts. 52% of our colleges request all the information on their social media. , halfpplicant to college of our employers do. they want to know what is going on on your facebook, your social media. if have the employers in america are doi
pakistan, afghanistan, syria, iraq, tunisia, part s of north africa where you have a lot of support for radical jihad, we're not reviewing the social media even though that is the world? n which they operates. we don't regularly review that and that is a major problem. so -- look. i think if someone is applying for citizenship to the united states, it is entirely reasonable that we ask for their social media contact, their information that -- these people don't radicalize overnight. a lot of...
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united states made its commitment. countries in south america and africa said these are the targets we are going to reach in these are the ways we will do it. the agreement does not insist that one region employ a particular method. carbon trading is happening in the united states. there are ways in which carbon can be deceitful and not really address the problem. they are paying polluters to continue to pollute. whereupport bogus schemes forest are protected but they really are not. this can be effective for communities that are facing significant pollution in their backyard. all carbon trading systems are not created equal. this does not push anyone system versus another. host: we have to wrap up early. we thank you for joining us. michael brune is from the sierra club. he is joining us from san francisco. that doesn't today for "washington journal." the houses gaveling in early today. we take you there live now from c-span. the speaker: the house will be in order of the the prayer will be offered by our chaplain, father conroifment chaplain conroy: let us pray. god of mercy, we give
united states made its commitment. countries in south america and africa said these are the targets we are going to reach in these are the ways we will do it. the agreement does not insist that one region employ a particular method. carbon trading is happening in the united states. there are ways in which carbon can be deceitful and not really address the problem. they are paying polluters to continue to pollute. whereupport bogus schemes forest are protected but they really are not. this can...
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middle east, north africa, show up at the u.s.-mexico border, some of them are caught. article points out, illegal immigrant asylum seekers don't give the host nation a choice. they just show up uninvited, smuggled, and often unknowable, they insist on being taken in any way, pointing to our generous laws and traditions. at least three of the paris terrorists, including hain abdul planners -- planner aimmediate abud were called special interest aliens, s.i.a.'s. they infill rated over the common european external border at greece, just like syrians show up at the u.s.-mexico board e, camouflaged among many other illegal immigrants. europe's s.i.a.'s from somalia, syria, pakistan, are move aid long the land and sea routes with the ubiquitous aid of human smugglers just like at the u.s. border. this is perhaps the world east deadliest case of human traffic. abud -- he knew he was on the radar of intelligence services and couldn't come home to the -- couldn't come home the legal way unnoticed so he traveled home as an illegal migrant under the cover of thousands of legitimate ones. mr. s
middle east, north africa, show up at the u.s.-mexico border, some of them are caught. article points out, illegal immigrant asylum seekers don't give the host nation a choice. they just show up uninvited, smuggled, and often unknowable, they insist on being taken in any way, pointing to our generous laws and traditions. at least three of the paris terrorists, including hain abdul planners -- planner aimmediate abud were called special interest aliens, s.i.a.'s. they infill rated over the...
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the intent to join al shabab in east africa. mohammed previously lived in the metro d.c. area and worked as a cab driver here and is believed to have snuck across the boarder to mexico after being placed on the no-fly list. the special agent in charge of they have washington, d.c. field office emphasized the importance of locating mohammed, quote, because he has knowledge of the washington, d.c. area's infrastructure, such as shopping areas, metro, airports, and government buildings. this makes him an asset to his terrorist associates who might plot attacks on u.s. soil. one refugee, second refugee, february 5, 2015. had -- a native of somalia, came to the united states as a refugee, this was done under the bush administration. abdenazir mohammed ibrahim, came at the age of 22, 2007 and then was later adjusted to lawful permanent resident status. but february 5, he was sentenced to 15 years in federal prison for conspiring to provide material support for al shabab, designated foreign terrorist rganization. he lied on his application for citizenship. lied on his request for refugee
the intent to join al shabab in east africa. mohammed previously lived in the metro d.c. area and worked as a cab driver here and is believed to have snuck across the boarder to mexico after being placed on the no-fly list. the special agent in charge of they have washington, d.c. field office emphasized the importance of locating mohammed, quote, because he has knowledge of the washington, d.c. area's infrastructure, such as shopping areas, metro, airports, and government buildings. this...
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correspondent at "60 minutes" and cbs news. she's originally from south africa. she's reported from all over the world-from the middle east, from zimbabwe; reported on ebola. she was the only journalist from an american network in baghdad during the american invasion in in 2003. spent nearly five years in iraq after that; took some various-very dangerous assignments in afghanistan. you were in a vehicle that was struck by an antitank mine in 2005, and five years later were in another ambush during-in a convoy along the afghanistan-pakistan border. that report won a dupont-columbia university silver baton. she's also won an emmy, an edward r. murrow award, an overseas press club award. and in 2011, covering the egyptian revolution, she was sexually assaulted by a mob in tahrir square, and she talked about that on "60 minutes." and she's since returned to middle east war zones. and this autumn, just in september, i guess, right, you reported from the front lines against isis in iraq, near fallujah, right, for "60 minutes" also. so thanks very much. let me start by asking maybe just what m
correspondent at "60 minutes" and cbs news. she's originally from south africa. she's reported from all over the world-from the middle east, from zimbabwe; reported on ebola. she was the only journalist from an american network in baghdad during the american invasion in in 2003. spent nearly five years in iraq after that; took some various-very dangerous assignments in afghanistan. you were in a vehicle that was struck by an antitank mine in 2005, and five years later were in another...