the republican party? does him getting the nomination risk the death of the republican party as you keep hearing? or is that overkill? is that hyperbole? right? would the nomination of donald trump more likely just mean that the republican party would change now? it would become trumpier now? right? the way the republican party didn't die after barry goldwater, it just did get a little more right wing. this isn't an idle question. we do actually have some data already that can help us answer the question of what is going to become of the republican party with donald trump as its standard bearer because right now he is the party's dfcs tow standard bearer. while we have all spent the last few weeks adgog at this change t the top, morphing of the republican party into a what feels like a post-policy strong-man personality cult where political events are like pageants of product placement and on-brand hucksterism. while we've been agog at that and that has been mesmerizing, a few other things have been happen

when we asked republican voters, "do you feel betrayed by the republican party?" more than 50% o o republican voters in these four states said yes, and that, of course, would signal outsiders are very much what the electorate on the republican side are looking for. >> reporter: nine out of 10 voters, in fact, today, on the republican side told us they were disappointed, even angry with the federal government. elaine, you're going to be leaving us now to join us with coverage on cbs whwh do you have aheadd there. >> reporter: we will have more political analysis with our rock star panel, but the story of commandir scott kelly, who has been in space for 340 days is coming back to earth and we expect live pictures. >> reporter: later on cbsn. scott. >> pelley: anthony, thank you, elaine, thank you. now we will go back to bob schieffer with our two political contributors, pepegy noonan of the "wall street journal" and bob. >> reporter: i'll tell you, scott, i'm just trying to process what i just heard in the let's think about this. marco rubio says that it will destro

i don't think the republican leaders even understand what the base of the republican party looks like. they don't understand the resentment. across both parties, particularly in the republican party, there's a real anxiety, particularly among white americans in this country, and they have anxieties and fears and are looking at a dramatic demographic shift, the diminishing economic options and viability and they are all saying, this is just one of the times we get to see it in the presidential election. you get to see it and experience it as a movement and people get to talk about it together. but people are feeling a real sense of pain and disappointment. and that's not shared by minorities in polls and what have you. much more optimistic. optimistic about the future, about the economy. this is white people in america are having an argument with themselves over this. and donald trump has tapped into a large part of that. and mitt romney is not going to be able to make them pull away from it. >> margaret? >> i love charles sort of telling you what the face of the republican party is do

they're the republican establishment. they're going to sit there and watch donald trump become the nominee. they're going to fight it. the republican party has to live with the convention of allowing and helping to create donald trump. >> stewart, with paul ryan as the most important non-candidate going to that convention, he's already taken a number of stances against donald trump, against things donald trump has said. he came out as soon as donald trump said ban muslims from the country. paul ryan was against that. he was against donald trump's hes tans about rejecting white extremist. with paul ryan in that position, with this party where it is, do you see it the way i do that there is no good choice, there is no choice that everybody can just cheer about when they leave cleveland? >> listen, i've been using the guns of august analogy, the book about the sort of world war i. i'll be happy if we can avoid killing each other. my goal here is straightforward. i don't want donald trump to be the nominee of the republican p

the republican party has told us they cannot win with just republican votes. that is why they support am middle east and why they support the democrat on many issues to get his magazines or other minorities. guess who is doing it? donald trump is deeing it. donald trump is put together a coalition whether he knows it or not or whether he intended, he put together a coalition that is exactly what the republican party say it needs to win. though trying to get trump out of race. they not in charge of it. they are not in control. it is the most amazing thing to watch this happen. governor romney comes along and tries to talk people out of trump and it will not work. can you not talk his supporters out of supporting him. the only go that can do that is trump himself. >> we will talk about that. there is a lost commentary and some coming from conservatives who say the republican party is if danger of tearing itself apart. we have soon splits, many times before over political philosophy but this is not what is happening this time. this is the establishment, the elite

the republican party started its nominating process with some 17th candidates. the parties held 15 primaries and caucus he and one candidate has won ten of them. the bill field gave wide choice of tendencies and thraifers and thflavors andthe guy who's won r weeks has never run for office and has what one might generously call an eclectic standpoint. republicans say they wouldn't be happy for donald trump to be the nominee but after waiting for weeks for donald trump to collapse of his own weight, the road from novelty act to favorite is paved with a lot of misescalation. here we are -- miscalculation, now the nontrump activists office holders and donors are saying, what do we do now? presidential candidate and new jersey governor chris christie got out of the race and threw his support behind the front runner. >> the single most important thing for republican party is to nominate the candidate that has the best to hundred against hillary clinton, i can guarantee you the one person hillary clinton and bill clinton don't want to see on the stage in november is do

and bush won the republicans. if we look at trump, he's doing about as well among a republican identifiers and independents in these republican primaries and contests so he has attracted and mobilized a vote that's already there and that's been in the republican party a long time and that is really the challenge for republicans who want to reorient their position. the last thing i will say is that in the short term, republicans can still win. i'm not predicting that this year with donald trump. but in the 1960's when the african-american vote was growing, because of the voting rights act and mobilization in the south, republicans, the party of lincoln, decided to go another way and alienated the limited black support they had hoping to get white southern votes and in the short and medium term that actually worked for them. so even if the segment of the electorate is growing, there's more than one way to slice a pie and there's more than one way to get to 50%. if they could get more white working class votes and th

i think probably the most useful number is there are eight republicans who are sitting republicans now who did vote for him and i think not even the vote, rachel, but the rhetoric around him subsequently has been so interesting because no less a person than orrin hatch said very recently, you know, if obama wanted to be reasonable, he'd give us a moderate candidate like merrick garland. and so they talk about him as though he is a centrist person that they can confirm very recently talking about him that way, and then suddenly he's named and they're like, obama's just fake reasonable. so, you know, it's -- this is not just the vote, itself, but the language around him which has been so supportive. he's such a beloved figure across the board. so many former solicitors general have come out and said, you know, this is your guy across the aisle and, yet, it doesn't matter what the vote was, it doesn't matter what they said about him, now that he's the pick, he is, you know, a pot smoking hippy liberal. >> the president's strategy here, the way you're laying that out seems very clear, righ

no republican should say that. that makes no sense for someone to say if they were drafted by their country they'd say no. what i can tell you is i'm not running for president. i'm not going to run for president. i'm going to support one of these four people to be our nominee. i'm supporting three of them right now. and that means that we're going to get one of those people as our nominee. >> you realize that by saying what you just said that people are going to say he opened the door to a draft? >> you know how absurd that is? we have four very strong people who are running for president. they will be our nominee. chris, there's 100% certainty in my view. >> finally, despite saying that they all thought he was three on the stage on thursday night said if thumbrump is the nominee, they'll support him. you say you won't. one, is it a mistake to say they'll support him even if he's the nominee, and what are your plans if he's the nominee? would you support a third party candidate? >> i think the guys would remember a

tonight republican party resistance. new reporting from inside sources, fresh reaction from team trump, a look at who among his opponents can stop him and that number is shrinking with the likely departure of dr. ben carson who all but suspended his campaign. also where this leaves hillary clinton and bernie sanders who are dividing up delegates but not split up their party. democrats are falling in line. republicans are falling apart. at least some are. as dana bash reports, some are trying even harder to take down trump. >> trump is facing massive lawsuits for fraud. >> reporter: this anti-trump ad is now flooding air waves in upcoming contest states. michigan, illinois and florida. >> the truth about trump university, donald trump made millions while hard-working americans got scammed. >> reporter: a million dollar superpac ad buy the result of a super tuesday conference call with some 50 gop donors who were begged to help stop trump as trump was racking up hundreds of delegates. >> look, i'm a unifier. >> reporter: i

we are going to blame president obama because the republicans dominated by republican presidents are bringing down the approval of the u.s. supreme court? according to my dear friend from iowa, he is saying president obama should be blamed for what those republicans on the supreme court did. this is alice in wonderland. this is alice in wonderland. i don't care what happens to president obama has to get blamed for it. if we have a hurricane or something, must be president obama's fault. but this is as far a stretch as i've ever heard, that was the supreme court goes down in approval rating because of the five members -- [phone ringing] -- i apologize for that. because of the five members of the supreme court. i apologize. i'm sure president obama is going to get blamed for that. but if the approval rating of the court goes down because of the five republicans who constituted the majority of it, is about as far-fetched as alice in wonderland to blame president obama for it. let's talk about facts. i like to talk about facts. in the way democrats have handled republican nominees. what

republican. it has diluted the chance of selecting republican conservatives. we in the getting john mccain and mitt romney and now, trump. trump reminds me of aaron burr, a rogue. i will take your comments. thank you. guest: this is an overlooked part of the primary process. some states hold open contests, meaning independents or even democrats can vote in a republican primary. so far, trump has done a lot better in open contests versus the closed contests because he's relied a lot on bernie, new people in the process and people who have not traditionally been republicans have come out to support him. he's doing just as well with republicans as he is among independents. cruz has done well in some contests because of the pure ideological republicans. will be covering donald trump today, a rally in arizona, live coverage coming up from phoenix, this afternoon at 2:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span and c-span radio. the wall street journal today has the question, can the wisdom of the crowds predict the next president? it's anyone's guess who will be the next presid

just look at republican hispanics. there's not tons of hispanics in the republican party. he already has 60% negatives with republican hispanics. it's going to be very tough for any nominee to do better than romney, against hillary clinton. he's going to do worse. >> we ran the numbers using the exit polls from 2012 in ohio and wisconsin, just on the white vote. and assuming all things were equal, and here's wisconsin first, trump would have to percentage points, go from 51% of the white vote, which by the way, romney got and still lost the state. 56% of the white vote is what trump would need to flip it. in ohio, to flip ohio, he would have to move the romney white vote number from 57% to 61%. this assumes that the non-white vote doesn't move at all. this seems like an impossibility. >> i'm not sure it is an impossibility. i think it's a very difficult task. but he is an asymmetrical candidate. he is so unconventional, we've never seen anything like it. when you began the program today, you said looking back from 2007 the rise of the movement that led us to this. but it's

candidate, very possibly republican candidate who is scarier to democrats than any republican who has been nominated in generations. so, that is going to i think reshape who democrats -- whether democrats turn out. >> dickerson: have to stop you there. thanks to all of you. we'll be back in a moment. expert? sure am. my staff could use your help staying in touch with customers. at&t can help you stay connected. am i seeing double? no ma'am. our at&t 'buy one get one free' makes it easier for your staff to send appointment reminders to your customers... ...and share promotions on social media? you know it! now i'm seeing dollar signs. you should probably get your eyes checked. good one babe. optometry humor. right now get up to $650 in credits to help you switch to at&t. >> dickerson: that's it for us today. thanks for watching. until next week for "face the nation" i'm john dickerson. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org ,,,,,,,,,, >>> it has already begun. the next storm pouring south over the north bay poised to hit us. >> reaction pour

you can imagine a black republican. i was a black republican. it's a little bit more comfortable today, a little bit more acceptable, but when i ran for office of the first african-american republican elected south of the mason-dixon line since reconstruction. i had a guy, and i talked about this in the book, i got it said after i was elected in a certain part of a district. these divvy a democratic legislature -- legislator. it was somewhat of a backhanded compliment. i don't think he said it to the ugly, but he said, i never thought i would see republican elected in this district. he went on to say, let alone a black republican. i was standing right there. i don't think he said to be ugly. i think he was being honest. i think it was somewhat of a compliment. i think he was trying to articulate that to be councilman rate. -- howin the book about in the last three years. i'm in a department store in norman, oklahoma where i played order back in service congressman. i have a security guy following me. i establish he was following the. i finally t

how republicans treat barack obama. let's listen to harry reid on that very point. >> republicans are slamming the door on a good man. they once embraced. simply why? because president obama nominated him. that's how they have treated him. overtired presidency. they have done it for going on seven and a half years. it didn't matter where these ideas came from. it didn't even matter if they came from republicans. >> and mark, doesn't that become the strong argument, here they go again, treating barack obama like he's not the president of the united states. >> there's a pattern. whenever congress stands up and says you lie, going back to the beginning, through this point, the treatment towards the president. and let's remember, it's the president. you know, he is the president of the united states and he's going to do his job throughout his eight years. he was elected twice. the people have had their say. he's going to continue to do his job. the republicans in the senate are acting as if he doesn't have the power. the re

the kentucky republican caucus got a higher turnout than the kentucky republican primary. >> yeah, i would disagree there's no correlation between primary turnout and wins in the fall. in the last 11 elections. >> enthusiasm doesn't hurt. they did set records in '08. >> this has been a great week for the democratic party. what we saw today is a lot of republicans have all these trump cocktails and it's 2:00 in the morning and ted cruz is starting and so they're thinking, oh, cruz -- >> do you think it's trump goggles? not beer goggles but trump goggles. >> they're thinking, oh, ted cruz, but this guy, ted cruz is almost as electable as donald trump to me. he's basically in the santorum bucket there and he's still not really breaking out of that. he's the most conservative member of the united states senate. so democrats i feel you got to be thinking pretty well of yourselves. >> it is amazing what happened today on the show. mitt romney went closer and closer to saying he was almost enthusiastic -- not enthusiastic about cruz, but he was closer. and lindsey graham by the end by the t

the republican party. >> of the republican party, exactly. only in the republican party could you have the base of the party wanting to exert its will and that's being called a hostile takeover. this is the lifeblood of the republican party and the conservative movement and they are saying this is what they want. and you get a bunch of consultants and major donors who are clustered in power centers here or there saying oh, no, no, you've taken away from us -- >> when you hear jake talking, dana talking about donors having this conference call, talking about a superpac to go after trump, does it concern you? >> i hope they do to be perfectly candid. i'm waiting for governor romney to endorse marco rubio. please help. >> he's not going to -- >> this is amazing because trump completely thwarted the establishment, if they stand down and do nothing, he wins. if they attack him, he wins. you're going to look at this in political science and military strategy for a very, very long time. he took a prisoner's dilem

he's also the story right now on the republican side. from a news value perspective, there's no question about that. and so everyone's competing with each other and if the daily beast gets kicked out of the thing, that's one less thing to deal with. how the republican establishment tried to deal with him until they came up to find this needed a collective solution, it was too late. >> exactly. i think, you know, the thing is it's not just the power dynamic has shifted with donald trump. i also think it doesn't matter how we cover him, it's not as if the networks or print journalists are saying, oh, donald trump is so great and this coverage is terrific for him. the coverage has been critical since he announced his campaign nine months ago. the difference here is his supporters just don't care. nothing is getting through to them. nothing is making them change their mind about him. so it's not that he's his own media outlet that is undeniably true. every candidate in their own way is with their own twitter account and social media in gener

they're skirting the issue. republican party has told us republican votes. amnesty. that's why they support the democrats on many of their hispanics or other minorities. guess who's doing it. donald trump is doing it. donald trump has put together a coalition, whether he knows it or not, whether he intended to or not, he's put together a coalition that's exactly what the republican party says that it needs to win east and, yet, look like what they're trying to do, get donald trump out of the race of it. it's the most amazing thing to watch this happen. tries to talk people out of work. you can't talk his supporters out of supporting him. the only guy that will be able to do that is trump himself. >> okay. let's talk about that because there is a lot of commentary, and some of it coming from conservatives who say that the republican party is in it danger of tearing it self apart. we've seen splits many times before over political what's happening this time. this is the establishment, the elite of the party versus the grassroots phase. >> exactly. it really isn't anyth

he's not even a republican. republican voters are coming out and voting for donald trump. why can't the establishment accept that he can win? >> i do think there's a real danger. what trump has is a whole lot of voters who turning out who are dissatisfied and are angry and feel betrayed by the republican party and the establishment. the leaders are saying we don't want trump. we don't give a damn what you think. we really don't care. we want somebody else. we're going to put our own person in there. that is the kind of message i would think would be very threatening to the future of the republican party, certainly threatening in this campaign. >> what do you say to that, bill? he's now the infamous line "i love the poorly educated." he's doing well among people with more and more educatin. his base of support seems to be getting broader. >> at this point, if you care about the country and you think donald trump shouldn't be president, you have an obligation to say so. donald trump got 34.2% of the vote last night. he did better than anyone else. he didn't get a majority of

>> the republican party -- if the republican party is a gumbo, the rue of that is the republican party and the core of that is the ku klux klan. >> the leaders of the republican party are disavowing anything to do with the ku klux klan. are they saying that because they have to? or do you think that they believe that? couldn't you give them some credit for that, at least? >> because they're also thinking about starting a new party. i feel like they're saying i fell like they're saying there's nothing we can do other than reconvene somewhere else. >> is this a surprise to them? was this an epiphany that they realize somehow their party is out of control when it comes to these issues, addressing issues in the ku klux klan? and it sounds like to you you believe that wow, where did this come from? >> it came from the first four years of barack obama's presidency. president barack obama where they allowed donald trump to demand the president show his birth certificate and they just stood by and went maybe he's not born here. they allowed that to happen. how would we know? hawaii, we don't k

republicans i've talked to off the record, republican officials to lose in november. the strategy is way to lose presidency built hold the isn't at, way to lose the white house but not have the party. that is discussion. they are not of one mind of whether ted cruz or donald trump is the smarter bet. if what you're thinking about is post 2016. >> the gap between what they say privately what they're willing to do public the gap is vast. >> but there is way to stop donald trump. the problem is, that they are divided between two candidates trying to stop him. and there's a very familiar divide, the pretrump divide. establishment and conservative. they can't figure out who should stop him, hard for the folks to get behind ted cruz. mitt romney and lindsey graham trying to make it easier but still very difficult. >> one of them would say the word endorse within they talked about ted cruz. >> the state of g.o.p. we have to lose with cruz it's important. >> astonishing, right? they are trying to save their party by nominating somebody presidency. >> at the same time, i think

ryan, to you as the republican. he is talking about you as well. >> look, donald trump is a political phenomenon. a - this is foelgtly unexpected. many in the republican party didn't see this coming and they let him get out of control. i think van is right, democrats should take him seriously. i think he has the potential to be a weak candidate given the statements he has made but the rules are off this cycle. no one knows what's going to happen at convention, no one knows what is going to happen in the fall. i think democrats would be ill advised to underestimate him. >> we are perhaps getting a piece of foreshadowing of what it could look like if it is trump v hillary. we have this video from the trump campaign from his instagram. roll it. ♪ [ barking ] [ laughter ] >> i mean, hillary clinton bark, ryan. and vladimir putin laughing. is this officially the trump pivot? is this him taking on hillary clinton and the foreshadowing of the tone that we will be talking about the next six months? >> i think so. i think

michigan republican electorate. let me put up mississippi first. and we've got both 2012 and 2016, so people can see the comparisons. very conservative electorate, in this case, white evangelicals is what we're putting up now. 76% of it in this one compared to 2012. here's the ideological numbers up for folks. the very conservative number is up from four years ago, up to 50%. somewhat conservative also up from four years ago to 34%. the moderate or liberal number very down. and i'll pause throwing out numbers there. that could very well be the open nature of the mississippi primary, where democrats had a democratic primary to go vote in. and therefore making the republican electorate slightly more conservative, that should be good news for a ted cruz, for instance, no? >> well, it's what we've seen across the early voting states so far, is that there is a more conservative electorate that's coming out to vote. and fundamentally, all the age and education, income, those things seem to be pretty steady. so it's a pret

let's say he is the republican nominee. what do you think happens to the republican party? >> i intend to support the nominee. when you get down to the choice of hillary clinton or donald trump, the question is going to be, do you want hillary clinton to be the president of the united states? i think the majority of americans say, heck, no. we don't trust her. she's not a trustworthy person. we want to go a different direction. somebody who is going to do the right things for the united states of america. so i intend to support the republican nominee, but i'm going to stay out of that fight until we figure out who that is going to be. >> have you had a chance to talk to senator rubio since his decision fo drop out of the race? what's your sense of his political future? >> no, look. he's got a bright future. he's 44 years old and has accomplished amazing things. i'm very proud of him and what he's been able to accomplish and keep his family intact. keep his integrity in place. certainly that speech last night made us all proud. and it showed the country why there were so man

the republican party always is. these candidates are competing to join the republican party. one of them is going to join the republican party in cleveland or sooner. and when that happens he'll get behind the republican nominee. of course these candidates have to sign and agree to be loyal to a party that they wish to be the nominee of. and so there's nothing unusual about that. and there's nothing unusual about our party coming around and supporting the person that becomes the nominee after getting a majority of the delegates. >> here's the question because you've suggested and said often the republican party is the party of lincoln, the party of reagan. i'll ask you this. would you say today your party is the party of romney or the party of trump? because it clearly can't be both. >> our party is the party of lincoln and reagan. i'll put it that way. and the fact is that it always will be. it's a party of freedom. it's the party of opportunity. it's the party of equality. and that's what our party is and that's what it always will be. >> because as you know, he's gotten a

but, now let's look at the republican voters, because among republican voters, there's a deep discontent with government. nine out of 10 republican voters said they're unhappy with the federal government, and that includes 45% who said they're angry. and that anger among republicans extends to their own party. 57% of g.o.p. voters said they feel betrayed by republican politicians. and that sentiment could favor an outsider like donald trump, scott. the exit poll information tonight. anthony, thank you very much. a new york appeals court has ruled that a lawsuit can proceed against donald trump and his trump university, a former school for real estate investors. new new york's attorney general accuse of school of defrauding thousands of students. another election-year battle centers on the vacancy for the supreme court. senate republicans want to leave the nomination to the next president. well, today, the current president tried to change their minds. here's chief legal correspondent jan crawford. >> reporter: the meeting with republican senate leadershipship was little more than a photo

the state republican voters in 1912 could have chosen the man already president, republican william howard taft. they would have picked teddy roosevelt. wisconsin voters didn't go with one of those two options. they went with this guy, robert lafoliet known as fighting bob. this was back in the days when it wasn't unusual for a republican to be a lot more liberal than a democrat. there were few as liberal has fighting bob lafoliet. he won 73% of the vote in the wisconsin primary. they chose him three times in republican presidential primaries. although he never did come anywhere near winning the republican presidential nomination. wisconsin voters sent him to the u.s. senate for 20 years. they also sent his son to the senate for another 20 years. he wasn't just a beloved figure inside wisconsin. in his final presidential run in the year 1924, that year he ran as the candidate of the progressive party, a third party nationally. that year he won 17% of the national vote. that's one of best showings ever recorded by a third party in the national presidential election. bob was the original pro

democrats and republicans. let's look who's won so far on the republican side, donald trump has won five states -- alabama, georgia, tennessee, on the democratic side, hillary clinton has won six states so far -- alabama, georgia, arkansas, tennessee, virginia and texas. bernie sanders has won his home state of vermont and the state of oklahoma. also on the republican side, ted cruz has won the state of oklahoma and his home state of texas. i want to go to byron pitts who's covering that campaign. byron. >> reporter: hey, george, cruz is addressing his supporters now. he said we're the only campaign that can, has and will defeat donald trump and he asked, quote, i ask prayerfully the other candidates to consider join joining our campaign. the argument he's making he's the one republican who has beaten donald trump and the party can now unite behind him. a gentleman, the tallest man in the room, dressed in an an uncle sam costume and he said that that we have shown that ted cruz is the alternative to donald trum

let's look at republicans first. a third of republicans told us the economy was their top issue. government spending came in second at 28%. their top issue, look at huh they broke. donald trump got most of these voters. 36%. marco rubio, 25%. the economy playing for donald trump. >> the economy the top issue among democratic voters. there you see, 38% saying the most important. followed by income inequality at 27%. now, of those democratic voters who said that the economy and jobs are most important. 62% of those voters went to hillary clinton. 36% went to bernie sanders. particularly interesting because of course senator sanders made income inequality and economy signature issues. >> as donald trump pointed out, the median income of americans has declined since the last presidential election. >> elaine, anthony, thank you very much. we will go to bob schieffer who is with our two cbs news political contributors, peggy noonan, and jamaal buoy. release for the mainstream traditional republicans, the washington republican establishment, i would start it out like snoopy would i woul

all of the republican leaders, yet, republicans couldn't come one a coordinated campaign against him. >> yeah, just now starting this effort. it's astounding. when we look back at this campaign, one of the big questions, he may be destroying the republican party as we know it. in another way, he's united the republican party. his two biggest victories tonight were in alabama and massachusetts, winning in the south, winning in new england, winning along different income levels, different education levels. he united republican voters as he absolutely divided republican leaders. >> with all kinds of voters. okay, we got a lot more to get to. anyone stop trump? senator marco rubio is going to join us. we'll be back. i take pictures of sunrises. it's my job and it's also my passion. but with my back pain i couldn't sleep... so i couldn't get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12-hour strength of aleve... for pain relief that can last into the morning. and now... i'm back. aleve pm fora better am. it comes when your insurance com

he's not even a republican. he's just sort of become a republican. he really doesn't stand for anything. he blusters, bullies. he makes big promises but didn't anything to back them up about how he will accomplish these things. the perception of this country and the way we move forward should not be based on someone who thinks they can shout other people down and that's the way to get things down. that's not the way our democracy was founded. our founding fathers are very strong and many days very contemporary prejudices and desires but they understood they needed to get something done. in order to do that you have to find consensus. you don't shout at people and bully them. >> you have said, if i'm not mistaken, you won't vote for him in the general election. you would vote for hillary clinton if she were the nominee. is that something you think you'll see from a lot of republicans? are we looking at a genuine split in the party right now? one of those things that comes along every century or will people suck it up and fall in line? >> a number of p

the republican establishment, they don't know what they're doing. >> so not surprising, the republican establishment has come out, many of them organizing, mitt romney, others, against him. he's saying they're a disaster. what do you make of this? >> well, i mean i think i agree with donald trump that politicians from both parties keep coming to d.c. and doing the same thing, nothing. the difference is that i don't think in anything we just heard that he offered a single solution. in debate after debate, i hear him angry, but i don't hear him actually saying that he's going to fix anything. what i hear is one thing at the debate and he has a statement the next hour taking back what he just said. >> you sound like what we're hearing from people like mitt romney, but if he becomes the nominee, what happens to the party? what are we seeing here? all of this rhetoric back and forth internally as opposed to going after the democrats? >> i'm watching the same kansas numbers you are, but i find them pretty interesting, which is that when republicans get to vote on their nominee, ted cruz and

people want trump. >> he has appeal that republican national committee, the republican establishment isn't going to be able to ignore after tonight. >> want somebody that can beat hillary. tell me who else in that party can even touch him? you have to get away from this gridlock and bureaucracy that we have and i think donald will accomplish that. neil: we do want to go to cruz headquarters in stafford, texas. >> behind me we have music going from a local band, market junction. i glad they sent me, neil, you cavuto would stick out at a place like this. neil: like you don't, mcshane. that should go well. >> watching cnn, watching fox people and watching msnbc people too. see i'm becoming diplomatic. neil: they're running table, that is hillary clinton. this is clinton headquarters we're looking at. those people are happy. no doubt they just tossed over found out on fox business that she won. >> i think you're right. neil: we're calling it super long tuesday. like end of the telethon with jerry lewis. we'll break out in song pretty soon. thank goodness here to put it in perspective. wh

and what i see the voters out there saying even in the republican party is you have a third of the republicans that really do like trump. they like his shtick. they feel like he's going to fight for them. but there is an equal number of republicans turned off to donald trump because of his approach, because of his brashness and his crudeness that he has out there on the campaign trail, the way he's insulted his way to his position. and i think the party is in deep trouble. as much talk as there is about his supporters will riot in the streets kind of alluding to what would happen if he didn't get the nomination. there is an equal number we're looking at that are considering either voting for hillary clinton or staying at home. and on the supreme court argument ron put out there, there is a real concern. you look at he's the only candidate even today that is losing to hillary clinton and if, in fact, there are a lot of republicans that stay at home as opposed to come out and vote not because they are against him because of his position on issues but because of the character of the man, then we'

republican party? >> absolutely. it will split the republican party and the conservative movement. of the conservative movement who has repeatedly refused to condemn the ku klux klan. there is no room for someone in the party who won't condemn the ku klux klan, or david duke. if i have to campaign in 50 states and every territory i will do so to ensure that he is not the nominee, that i am. one more point, no one is going to come to us and say get out so we ask rally around donald trump. people are begging us to stay in and fight this man and i will and i urge people to join me at marcorubio sodom. >> thank you for joining us this evening. >> thank you. >> pelley: charlie rose with marco rubio, and our political panel when super tuesday continues on cbs. >> if donald trump wins the republican nomination it will believe the conservative movement. >> here is what i'll say in november when we lose, i told you so. >> is the party coming apart? what's going to happen next? (baseball on tv in background) wit

here is republican senator jeff lake. >> i think republicans are fully justified in doing what we're doing. waiting. but if we happen to lose the election, then i think we ought to push him through quickly if we can. >> senator, is jeff lake wrong? >> yeah, i think so. look, barack obama calling judge -- this judge a moderate doesn't make him a moderate. this judge would move the court dramatically to the left. he's enthusiastically supported by moveon.org. i don't think they would be signing up and have all this enthusiasm about a liberal judge. the principle is the same. whether it's before the election or after the election. the principle is the american people are choosing their next president and their next president should pick this supreme court nominee. >> so, final question. just to make it clear. you're saying no consider -- no consideration of judge garland by this congress even if hillary clinton wins the election? no consideration by this congress? you're going to stand firm on that even in a lame duck session? >> yeah. i can't imagine that a republican majority in the u

we asked voters in the republican primary, do you feel betrayed by republican party leaders? take a look, north carolina, one of the stated to close early tonight, 56% of republicans say they do feel betrayed by politicians in their own party, 40% say no. similar in ohio. 57% of republicans say they feel betrayed, compared to 38% that do not feel betrayed. the two states have different solutions to this. take a look at this. north carolina, we asked, do you want somebody from outside the establishment or like somebody with experience in politics? big sentiment for the outsider, 54% of republican primary voters in north carolina want an outsider, 38% want somebody with experience. in ohio, though, it's a slightly different story. 50% want an outsider, and a slight uptick for those looking for somebody with experience in politics, 43% of republicans in ohio voting in the prime mary today tell us they want somebody with experience. >> so beginning to get more sense of the minds of the voters today. i know you and your team are crunching more numbers. we'll get more soon. fascina

you do have a republican majority. what you get then, as you got with the democratic majority, the new geo coalition are the power factions within a party. you have two republicans running against each other in 1912. we get woodrow wilson only there was these factions within the republican party that split. if you take that out, to generalize, you have a republican majority. i should have been more aflicked what i was really saying in the conclusions of my talk, when you have a populace -- i actually think congress is representative of the people. i'm not one of those who thinks that partisanship is a battle. i think these people are. i think representatives senators, know more about their constituents than any elected official has ever known at any time in history. i think they know a lot about what they people want. those people who will vote want and those people who might vote in the primary want. that happens not to translate into great government. >> to have make a distinction between the house and senate. as lon