in indiana. i refuse to say it's bobby knight. but it's bobby knight. >> trump holding a rally in indiana tomorrow with one of that state's most legendary and legendarily controversial characters. does bob knight still have the juice to put trump over the top in the hoosier state? all that, much more still to come. but we begin this hour with our top story. ted cruz and john kasich now appearing to downplay the deal that they struck, the one that has kasich pulling resources from indiana in exchange for cruz giving up at least officially on oregon and new mexico further down the calendar. the entire interview with kasich from the "today" show earlier this morning where he was pressed on exactly what this deal does and doesn't mean. we're going to have that for you coming up. the whole situation setting up what cruz has called for for weeks now. he will get the one-on-one race he has been looking for between him, ted cruz, and donald trump in indiana. that may be the last best shot for cruz to kee

to win indiana. if cruz loses here it will be a psychological blow. if trump loses, he can still move on and get to california and pick up delegates in these western states and still have a shot at locking up the nomination outright. it's easier if he does it with the delegates out of indiana, but it's not an easy road ahead for ted cruz, that's what his campaign is up against. >> i'm curious, have you been able to get reaction from the now cruz fiorina campaign. we heard explosive comments from ted boehner. i won't repeat it because it's take your kid to work day. is they saying anything about what boehner said there. >> reporter: i'm checking ted cruz's twitter page, but we haven't seen him on camera this morning. we reexed out to the campaign for reaction and comment. ted cruz and john boehner have no love lost between the two. boehner was never a fan of ted cruz on capitol hill. it's no surprise he would make these comments now. it is very personal, right, when you talk to other republicans outsi

delegates in indiana. right now 57 delegates on the table, and the way that that works is that whoever wins the statewide vote gets 27 of them immediately, puts them in their pocket. the remaining 27 are divided up on whoever wins each congressional district. this is very concerning right now to ted cruz because donald trump has a big lead over ted cruz with john kasich in the race in indiana. now, john kasich, what does he get in return? by pulling out of indiana, although he just gave a news conference -- >> we'll talk about that in a second. >> we don't know if he's out, he is going to put all his chips in on the states of oregon and new mexico, 52 delegates on the table right there. so they're throwing everything and the kitchen sink at donald trump. >> but what is in the kitchen sink. it seems the waters have been muddied. the plan was revealed overnight. it seemed clear, ted kasich pulls out of indiana, ted cruz doesn't campaign in new mexico and oregon. john kasich spoke to reporters and it sounded

indiana is my home state and indiana is a place battered by the indiana republican party battered by continue versery over the last couple years about being too crazy, too radical and a lot of these establishment republicans that i don't see them suddenly voting for cruz because it's a difference in style, not substance in the first instance. who knows if the deal will work in indiana. >> speaking of things that might not last that long. there was the trump campaign and sounds coming out of the trump campaign that would maybe be a different tone from donald trump. world of deal reached everybody last night. donald trump talked about john kasich today. listen to what he chose to focus in on. >> now you look at kasich, i don't think he knows -- did you see him? he has a news conference all the time when he's eating. i have never seen a human being eat in such a disgusting fashion. >> so -- [ laughter ] >> john kasich does like to sample the food at these campaign events, but this is old habits diehard for donald trump, huh? >> listen, i think this is the fifth or 17th time that we've a

indiana. >>> breaking news this morning out of indiana. senator ted cruz set to secure a key endorsement ahead of tuesday's crucial primary. sources saying indiana's governor mike pence will throw his support behind the texas senator within the hour. let's bring in ron nehring, national spokesman for the ted cruz campaign. >> look at that smile. >> do you care to take a victory lap there, ron? >> ever since carly fiorina's joined the campaign, it's just been a tremendous bolt of lightning and we'll see what happens today in the great state of indiana. we're here in indianapolis for an event, packed house at the indiana war museum right now and we'll see what governor pence has to say on the radio. >> we know what governor pence is going to say on the radio. sources say the governor is going to endorse ted cruz. why don't you talk about the significance of that endorsement to the campaign. >> i think if governor pence would make an endorsement in the campaign, we'll let the governor speak for himself, he's well respected as a conservative l

i think the people of indiana deserve a debate here in indiana. i've accepted two debate invitations here in indiana. and what donald is saying to hoosiers is he doesn't respect you enough. he doesn't care enough about the opinion of the men and women in this state to show up and debate. you know what, we ought to talk about foreign policy. we ought to let donald stand up and explain why he believes we should cut the military aid to israel. that's what he's advocated. that we should make israel pay big-time. i think that's profoundly misguided. but yet donald doesn't respect the voters enough to give them a debate. what carly and i are doing, we're barn storming the state. we're on a bus tour traveling the state asking for the support of the men and women of indiana. and i believe that any candidate before he and she is elected needs to look people in the eyes, needs to answer their questions, needs to show the humility to subject yourself to the scrutiny of the people. that is what we are doing. and i hope and believe that the good judgment of ho

indiana is very important. it was identified by all the campaigns as a state that could make or break donald trump's chances of getting to a majority. hishing that increases chances of not getting indiana is a good deal for the non-t rumpers. the question now is, can the groups come in and create an environment where ted cruz can stop donald trump? he has to do it. opportunityke the to try to make the case of why indiana republicans and those voting in the open primary should vote for ted cruz and not trump. it really is-year-old but. the people were going to vote for kasich are still going to. they are not going to go and vote for ted cruz. system, themary undecided voters right now, where are they going to go? certainly media dollars are being spent. that could make the difference in a very close race. mark: cruz people believe they can get some kasich people. -- you would be a crazy candidate to tell your voters to vote for someone else. if you believed ted cruz and john kasich are colluding, that fits neatl

that is a sore subject in indiana. she's not doing very well against barbara boxer and a lot of people are wondering what he gets putting carly fiorina on the ticket. >> she is a consistent critic and seen as a political outside are. if ted cruz wants to be the guy willing to take on the establishment, pretty good choice. >> this is the same ted cruz getting endorsed by lindsay graham and ted bush. and same ted cruz who made a deal with john kasich, the governor of ohio. is he an insider or outsider. welcoming the establishment or putting it away. it doesn't give you a clear sense of what he expects to gain by carly fiorina and why it makes a difference on the ground in indiana in five days. >> chris, thank you. >> we didn't talk much about donald trump in that conversation. there is a reason for that. donald trump will sit down with chris wals on on fox news sunday and discuss the state of the race and stakes in indiana. check your local listings for where fox news runs. it also runs here on the fox news channel. >> a

you just saw cruz there a second ago talking about that the future really is indiana, indiana, indiana. let's say that he brings carly fiorina in to the campaign as a vice presidential running mate, even though he's not the nominee. talk to me about the importance of indiana, and specifically for cruz, does he have a shot at it? >> look, it looks -- in terms of winning, yeah, he's got a shot in a way he didn't have a shot to win any of these states. why it's so important is there are 57 delegates up for grabs in indiana. the way they give these delegates out in the state, if you win the state at all, by even one vote. if it's like 42% for trump and 41% for cruz, just by doing that, you get 30 of those 57. the others are given out by congressional district. nine congressional districts, three delegates each. what that basically means is if you're winning the state, you're getting most, maybe all of those 57 delegates. if you lose the state, even by a couple points, you're getting barely any of those 57 delegates. so from a delegate standpoint, and so much of this is about the delegate m

trump in indiana's primary. i also think it hurts him because it energizes a lot of folks out there, myself included on the republican side that are frustrated with this process and does not think mr. trump is the best qualified candidate to become the republican nominee. i also think it helps secretary clinton, the presumptive democratic nominee, i was skeptical she'd be able to recreate the obama coalition of 2011 and 2012, but because of trump's anti women, anti women sentiments, i think that type of coalition will probably coalesce around secretary clinton and put her over the top this fall. >> doug, let's talk about governor kasich. he spoke to reporters last night in california. let me play you this sound bite and get your reaction afterwards. take a listen. >> when you live on the negative side, when you feed people's anger -- did you see what happened here today? i heard about it. people chaining themselves to a fence. you see what's happening? >> clearly kasich is frustrated, upset there. how can the st

he has definitely connected with people here in indiana. there are a lot of diehard supporters who i think, even the folks who told me listen, i do not agree with what he says. i think they are saying i wish he would not say certain things about certain groups or people. even though i do not agree with everything he says, i think he is the one that can give us the change we need. once someone believes that, there is no going back. >> bottom line, you have your pulse on the indiana electorate, what role will indiana play in the road to nomination in cleveland for the ultimate gop nominee? matthew: sure, i should preface it by saying i'm usually wrong about my protection. but this will be donald trump's night. i will be likely very surprised if he does not carry the state. he might not win all of the delegates because there are some republicans in districts that are tailor-made for ted cruz and his evangelical message. but it appears that donald trump is going to win pretty solidly. on the democrat side, i will tell you, it is hard to predict

cruz is going to be in indiana. it is all about indiana right now for ted cruz. he thinks he's got a one-on-one shot or at least the closest thing he could possibly get to it against donald trump there. maybe one factor, though, standing in his way. tony toddecope ill is on the grd and will tell us after this. jack knocked over a candlestick, onto the shag carpeting... ...and his pants ignited into flames, causing him to stop, drop and roll. luckily jack recently had geico help him with renters insurance. because all his belongings went up in flames. jack got full replacement and now has new pants he ordered from banana republic. visit geico.com and see how affordable renters insurance can be. >>> all right. well, you're not going to find ted cruz in any of the five states holding primaries tomorrow. he's taking a pass on them on this monday before the voting there. instead, he is skipping ahead to indiana. he's got four events scheduled in the hoosier state today. of course indiana voting on may 3rd. one problem for ted cruz now that he struck this deal with joh

said on on it "indiana." that's something you should take great pride in. >> you have been watching bobby knight, the legendary hooser coach, three times national champion speaking. we want to speak with some others on a different perspective on this debate. miller is the senior advisor. he's part of the stop trump movement. if ted cruz loses in indiana, he won't call it a must win, he acknowledges it is pivotal. today it is important that the midwest are fitting and the midwest will decide this nomination. he knows what the stakes are. if he loses on tuesday, does that effectively to say to stop the trump's movement is done. >> it is neck and neck. i would not say it is done because we are five weeks away from california where there is so many delegates. >> unless trump gets 1237 before california. you can turn it around there and five weeks in politics, anything can happen. donald trump shown that he can make big mistakes when the pressure is on. we are going to continue to fight until then. i think ted cru

>> well, we are all in in indiana. we are competing in this great state. indiana is a crossroads. it is a crossroads for the entire country. it is big news today that john kasich has decided to pull out of indiana, to give us a head-to-head contest with donald trump. that is good for the men and women of indiana, it's good for the country to have a clear and direct choice. after discussions with the kasich campaign, we made a decision about allocating resources. we decided to allocate our time and energy and resources on the state of indiana. governor kasich decided to allocate his resources elsewhere. i think that made sense from both campaigns. >> what would you say to voters about a divide and conquer strategy. even if you're not a trump supporter, nonetheless kind of subverts the will of the people. >> this is entirely about the will of the people. this is about winning the votes of the hoosier state. we're at a fork in the road. we are at a fundamental fork in the road. if donald trump is the nominee, hillary clinton wins. hillary clinton beats donald trump by double digits.

. >> you love indiana, right? the hoosiers. i wasn't supposed to be here today. i'm supposed to be here in two weeks, but i had to come early. i came early, i said what are we doing? let's go to indiana. >> he had to um early, because indiana is the biggest delegate prize on the campaign trail before the time primary in california on june 7th. if he loses indiana, he might have no chance of securing the republican nomination on the first ballot at the convention. that's why donald trump's first stop today was in indiana, and that's why the first thing on the agenda today in the trump campaign war room the morning after the big win in new york was indiana. donald trump's first stop? indiana was a very private event. cameras could only get close enough to see the black suvs pulling up to the governor's residence where donald trump met with mike pence. chris christie, wlofs nowhere to be seen last night in new york was with donald trump at the governor's residence to provide the introduction of the republican preside

we heard it in indiana. the lyin ted references. >> how is donald trump feeling about winning there? >> reporter: well, you know what is interesting about that, when you heard what the indiana star said, calling him, quote, a disaster in the making, a danger to not only the united states but to the world, saying that kasich and clinton are the best choices out of a disappointing field of presidential candidates. but even having said that, donald trump remaining just as defiant as ever. still lashing out at ted cruz saying that he is the better candidate and actually criticizing cruz for picking a running mate when he says mathematically he has no path to the nomination. >> so what does he do? he now goes out and gets carly who left the race because she had no votes, she had nothing. and that's okay. she's a nice woman. but it's not going to help. it's not going to help. >> reporter: trump also telling the crowd there in indiana, if he would win there, basically he says it's going to be over. well, it won't b

so he is at 1200 free indiana. if he wins indiana, he is clearly going to be the nominee on the first ballot in cleveland, and the party should begin to the stove the trappings that it would on any nominee. john: but on the last show you talked about republicans who say that trump is unqualified to be president. the never trump movement, regardless of if he gets 1237 or not, there are people in the never trump movement who are not going to vote for him. if you go to the convention, mitt romney does not show up, john mccain has said he will not show up -- he could change his mind. there are other leaders who have made it pretty clear that they will not vote for him, let alone endorse him. how do you manage that? some of the party will acquiesce and capitulate, but what do you do about that? guest: once he becomes the nominee, we are going to see the dissonance between what people have been saying which is, never trump, i will never support donald trump, but i intend to support the nominee of my party. that moment is

that is the choice that indiana is making, and when indiana makes that choice, it will carry through to cleveland. >> talk to me more about carly fiorina. how does she help him? does she help him in indiana? >> i don't know yet. and i don't think anybody knows

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he's been so great for indiana. he loves indiana. he loves indiana. and to have his endorsement the is just an honor. and i just want to give him a little special hand. special guy, folks. there aren't too many of them. i want to tell you, i know a lot about the world. there aren't too many of them. there are very few. and you certainly don't find them very often in politics, that i can tell you. you know, you've been seeing these crazy deals they're making. they're desperate. they make the deal where cruz calls. he's losing badly. he's losing all of them. in fact -- lyin' ted, right? lyin' ted. he's an outright liar. boy, you know, i watched him the other night. now, i always start off by saying we will repeal and obama care. everybody knows. so i watch him the other night. donald trump loves -- absolutely loves obamacare. i said, what? he's telling this to an audience. believe me, folks, we're going to repeal it and replace it. okay? then he goes, he doesn't want to bring education local. he wants it coming out of washington. the guy is going one af

indiana the first step. if the step isn't taken, donald trump has a clear path to the nomination, carol. >> phil, reporting living this morning. thank you. >>> jeb bush breaking his silence for the first time since dropping out of the presidential race, and speaking exclusively to cnn's jamie gangel. calling for a contested convention with ted cruz as the victor and warning his fellow republicans about donald trump. >> i don't think he is a serious person. >> you haven't changed your mind? >> no, i've seen nothing, the speech, you know, recent speech about foreign policy was -- you can't -- i don't know which donald trump to believe, the one that read from a teleprompter, a speech that was inside the lines, or the one that wants to build a wall and make mexico pay for it. or a 45% tariff on china, or abandoning nato, or saying it's, you know, it would be a smart thoing have japan and korea go it alone and build their nuclear capability to deal with china. which donald trump is the one that's expressing these

had a meeting with terrific governor pence of indiana. so excited to campaign in his wonderful state. >> i want to do a side by side if there's another tweet after this endorsement happens live in indianapolis. if you're just tuning in, i love that you're watching us on cnn. but you're going to be watching some listening going on in just a moment. that is the live radio station and the broadcast booth for wibc-fm. if you're not from indianapolis and you don't know the station, get to know it. this is where a critical moment is going to happen where the governor of indiana is going to put out his formal endorsement for ted cruz over the air waves and that's important because there has been sort of a battle of the endorsements lately and indiana could be the make or break. i always say that. this time, it really is true. i want to bring in three cnn commentators and sat up straight, she heard her name. the daily beast and a politics editor for new york one. to the po so the polling has been tricky. there's a code legislation caught up that

out of indiana. the latest fox news poll show clinton now with a narrow four-point lead over sanders. >>> the hoosier state may not be so used to the spotlight during primary elections. indiana is usually a footnote on the path to the national conventions. but this year, every delegate vote matters. this week, we have seen some wheeling and dealing and a unique vice presidential pick for a second place candidate. josh is a political editor at the national journal and joins me now. first, thank you so much for joining us. i want to play a sound bite and get your reaction. we heard governor mike pence of indiana come out on friday, he had an interview with a radio station. he didn't necessarily vote he said against any candidate but said he was going to vote for ted cruz. i want to play a sound bite and get your reaction. take a listen. >> thrilled to have governor pence's support. i'm a huge fan of governor mike pence. he's a principled strong conservative and look, i recognize the media wants to do w

but he is in indiana. it's a key state for the campaign and we'll spend quite a bit of time there moving forward and the message is very simple. ted is out there to coalition build and rally and unite conservatives behind him, which is something that donald trump has not been able to do. you have to win the majority in order to achieve the nomination and donald trump has only gotten majority of votes in one state, one state only, his home state. and the key is about receiving majority plus one in as many states in order to receive the necessary delegates to acleve the nomination. what ted is doing now is focusing on acquiring delegates in every state we possibly can to achieve 1,237. >> i know indiana, a week from today, is critical for his campaign, senator cruz's campaign. both candidates, kasich and cruz, backing away interest that deal that they struck to prevent donald trump from reaching that number of delegates, 1,237 delegates needed to clinch the nomination. is the deal over with or is it still ha

if we win in indiana, it's over. >> okay. we heard you. tough talk from donald trump as he gears up for tuesday's indiana primary, the second biggest delegate prize remaining on the calendar. let's bring in rick tyler msnbc analyst and joe watkins, republican strategist and former white house aide for george h.w. bush. >> it's funny, he always repeats himself. says it three different times, three different ways. is he right, joe? can indiana basically clinch the nomination nor him? >> it certainly goes a long way. i think if he wins indiana, he's right. it's close to being over. he's actually got to win the 1237 delegates to be the party's nominee before the convention, but winning indiana really puts him on the path to doing that. i think it makes it a lot easier for him to consider himself the presumptive nominee if he wins indiana on tuesday. >> rick, on the other happened, your former candidate, ted cruz, if he loses indiana, is it over for him? >> i don't expect ted cruz to get out until trump secures the 1,237. if he does lose indian

in indiana. >> it is a good question but it is not entirely clear. when i spoke with him, he says i want at the end of the day, these people to vote for me in indiana. i am still on the ballot there. this morning, he had no advice for his voters in indiana. there is also all these mix matches. >> basically saying if you are a kasich supporter in indiana, you should vote for cruz. whether voters pay a lot of attention to this is not entirely clear. the bottom line is it demonstrates this effort to slow down donald trump and the time now is very limited. >> and makes them look weaker. speaking of can datdidates and running out, christian welker, we have been following this. he was just absolutely having nothing of these questions about hillary clinton expecting him to back off. as he told rachel maddon last night that he's winning and he got 2.7 million votes than he does. >> you are right. showing no signs of letting up. he does not need to. he's got all of this money in his chest and he got thous

and here in indiana, the people of indiana have good sense, the people of indiana have good sense. the people of indiana i don't believe will say manhattan has spoken, therefore we must get behind a new york liberal. i don't believe the people of indiana want to do that. and i think anyone who wants to be elected president owes it to the voters to do what i'm doing here. heidi and i are barnstorming the state. we are on a bus tour barnstorming the state to look voters in the eyes. to subject yourself to the scrutiny of hoosiers. donald trump doesn't like to do that. he likes to parachute in like mick jagger. show up at a football stadium. give some performance, and then leave. well, this country isn't a reality show. and if donald trump thinks he's too good to answer questions from the men and women of indiana, that conveys something. it's now been 8 days since the last republican debate. the democrats are debating. hillary clinton and bernie sanders have both demonstrated more humility than donald trump and they subjected themselves to the scrutiny of the voters. i believe the peo

in indiana. >> reporter: thank you very much, jacob. voting is under way early here in indiana and is moving at an incredible clip. three times as many voters have come through in 2016 as came through in 2008 or 2012. this is hamilton county. this should be a john kasich strong hold. it's an educated population, a relatively wealthy population. his co-chair of the re-election committee for indiana is located nearby. also he's supposed to have three events here today, all of those have been cancelled. so we came to see if the post cruz-kasich alliance is having an impact. not so much. there are two kinds of john kasich voters that we're discovering today. there are the voters who are die heard john kasich believers. they know the strategy but in their heart and scenes they believe in kasich and will vote for them of the and then the people that are politically savvy enough already and they switched their vote to ted cruz. so you've got kind of a noneffect here. it's not having the impact that the

lou: we take up the fight for indiana with the chairman of the indiana republican party. also among my guests, ed rollins, republican strategist. tony sayegh. and the insult heard around the world. former house speaker john brainer blasting ted cruz as lucifer in the flesh and the most miserable s.o.b. he's vert met. it looks like -- he's ever met. it looks like donald trump's plain spoken way is rubbing off. some say why some think the lawsuit against trump university will hurt trump. we'll see whether you believe it's a political hit job by a hillary clinton supporter. we take up that case with arthur aidala and rebecca roseman tonight. donald trump having the best week ever. tuesday he won five primaries by hic margins. and cruz chose a running-mate who can't seem to win elections. and john boehner attacks cruz with brutal directness. reporter: ted cruz's with would-be running-mate carly fiorina in indiana, a must-win state if they hope to stop donald trump. he slammed the frontrunner for sexist criticism of hillary clinton. >> it's not surprising donald trump attacks

to lose indiana. for cruz, it is a very important five days for him as he looks to get out there and do some of the retail politicking that he did in places like iowa, perhaps save some of the southern parts where trump looks stronger. cruz, a tough road ahead tuesday. critical for his campaign. kate? >> coming up, we check in with the sanders campaign. his campaign is shrinking with staff layoffs. the numbers not looking so good, but do not tell that to folks in euge eugene, oregon, they are out inmass to hear bernie as he vows to stay until the end. almost there. i can't reach it. if you have alligator arms, you avoid picking up the check. what? it's what you do. i got this. thanks, dennis! if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. growwwlph. it's what you do. oh that is good crispy duck. burning of diabetic nerve pain, these feet learned the horn from my dad and played gigs from new york to miami. but i couldn't bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer. so i t

of indiana. they just lost hundreds of jobs. he's offering solutions to this idea of people losing their jobs and while the people continue to push this negative message, we're finding it's backfiring across this country as they continue to lose and mr. trump continues to gain optimism as he's offering solutions and not just wanting to divide our republican party that we love. >> the people have experience with trump in jobs. he went to gary, indiana and promised he was going to build the best casino ever, believe me, believe me and they believed me and they let him bring a casino to gary and five years later he pulled out and the jobs weren't created 3. >> why did he pull out? maybe because of the regulations? >> because not enough money for himself because he cares more about himself than regular voters and the people in indiana saw what it was like when he promises jobs and they don't materialize. >> thank you all for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> coming up, we're

he's been so great for indiana. he loves indiana. he loves indiana. and to have his endorsement the is just an honor. and i just want to give him a little special hand. special guy, folks. there aren't too many of them. i want to tell you, i know a lot about the world. there aren't too many of them. there are very few. and you certainly don't find them very often in politics, that i can tell you. you know, you've been seeing these crazy deals they're making. they're desperate. they make the deal where cruz calls. he's losing badly. he's losing all of them. in fact -- lyin' ted, right? lyin' ted. he's an outright liar. boy, you know, i watched him the other night.

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i think -- it should be over in indiana treats us right. >> today is indiana's day, indiana now has the chance to speak, not only for hoosiers across the state but for people across this country that value midwestern common sense, that value good judgment. >> fox news contributor, i listen to what cruz says, guy, i'm from minnesota and we call it midwestern sensibility, that's kind of what he said there. there's also a big evangelical population in indiana that you would think would go to ted cruz. if the history proves anything, donald trump has won a lot of that vote, that's right. >> if you look at the remainder of this competition on the republican side, you take a big orange highlighter and circle next tuesday. indiana absolutely crucial for ted cruz. if he loses there, his back is broken. i think psych logically it would be a real problem for him because think about it, we've heard this for months from ted cruz, i need a one on one fight with donald trump he's got that deal with john kasich, kasich isn't playing much in that state at you will. if he get the situation he's been cra

indiana is a different kettle of fish. indiana is different. today donald trump continued to criticize what he is calling a rigged system. he took to the op-ed pages to single out political insiders and colorado taking the vote. it was other states beating him to the punch. if he wants to appear about a system appearing to be rigged against him, the state to start with is indiana. joining us is a reporter for the fort wayne gazette. thanks for being here. appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me. >> i'm struck by the numbers. because indiana hasn't voted yet and there's only one known trump supporter, could the trump campaign done more to get a foothold or was this stacked against them from the beginning? >> the majority people are just long time republicans in the state who probably would have picked as delegates no matter who was running. i'm not sure that anyone could have gotten ahead of it too much. i think these are party insiders and support the party. a lot of them have been delegates before. it's not surprising to see their names

that is a choice that will make a difference for indiana. going to make a difference -- that's a very good thing. young lady in front asked about terry. because the obama administration and put taxes and regulations over 200 rules of regulations directly impacting terry. donald answer is the same as hillary clinton and barack obama. i'm going to use the force of the federal government to punish a company that feed the regulation to the government. that's exactly what barack obama said and hillary clinton said. that's what big government liberals do. they use the power of government to punish you if they don't like what you're doing. here's what i'm going to do. we're going to pass a flat tax, lift regulations and in few years, companies all over the world will be coming back to america. because we created the most -- [indiscernible] you're showing more courage than doing that than donald trump. you notice the excitement of the media. he wants his home state manhattan focused, everyone give up and go home. they are all liberal democrats. they

indiana needs a partner in the white house for prosperity. weare at record employment, have a balanced budget, but how much can we do it we had a republican administration working in a republican congress? about ourexcited bicentennial year. we have some of the working in washington for our site -- instead of against us. toncourage every hoosier listen carefully. make clear decisions come exercise your right to vote this coming tuesday if not before. at the end of the day, is your country. whoever that might be, we will have a great victory. editorial -- and president trump would be a danger to the united states and the world. ted cruz is ill-suited to serve. matthew tully is for the indianapolis star and joins us now. how does the newspaper really feel about these republican candidates? newspaper that was pretty disappointed with john kasiche >> donald trump has this thing lead. matt: we have not had up: several days but the writing on the wall service the indicate yet a steady week here. cruz made a lot of news and he more dramatic with the

again, we would love to win indiana. i feel confident we are going to win indiana but this is a do or die case for the cruz campaign even though senator cruz has already been mathematically eliminated. this is where he's taking the last stand. >> let's talk about last night. there was a huge donald trump rally in southern california. a lot of people, thousands of people were there but outside, there were protesters and 20 people were injured and various people were arrested. one person was injured. is this a scene of things to come down the road? >> you know, i'm not sure. you would have to ask the ant anti-trump and anti-american protesters. you'll notice when you see trump people, they have american flags. you saw mexican flags and these are the people inciting violence, getting physical, defacing property, breaking car windows. that's not for something that donald trump needs to answer. i think we should ask who they support for president and ask those people. >> they'll argue the protesters are pro-american and love

i think that's less true for indiana. but conversely, if he pulls out a win, if trump can win in indiana, i think it will be significant. >> what do you make of the trump we've been seeing over the past few days? because originally the reports wur trump was going to be more presidential. and then it was kind of like, i don't want to. i want to just be me. it's worked for me so far. then last night he took a shot at hillary clinton suggesting if she were a man she'd have 5% in the polls which has caused some controversy. >> right. i think we should step out of politics and look at our experience in life. if all of us had a friend who was marrying a 69-year-old man and there were a lot of things you didn't like about him but he said he was going to change, i think our advice to that person would be, you better like what you're getting because the odds that someone at 69 years old is going to change is not great. donald trump is not going to change. he is who he is. you have to like what you're getting. just the idea that yo

he said this in indiana. do you believe that you will win indiana? >> well, donald outperformed last night from the numbers we had looked at. he outperformed in new york, where they were counting on maybe 85. he got 90. so every time that we've pencilled where we're getting to 1,237, he's exceeding that. he's going to do fine in indiana, it is a competitive race but the delegates are mounting up. he has said, the presumptive nominee. no question about it. it's time for our party to come together and to take the fight to hillary, her progressive, liberal agenda. the socialist agenda bernie sanders promoted she said she pretty much agrees with. so it's time to get into the general election fight, and i think mr. trump's speech today here in washington, his foreign policy speech, is his shifting of his campaign into a general election to make sure that all the voters, republicans and democrats, understand the leader that he is, and so you're going to see more and more of this rolling out as we head into california, and certainly on june 7, it will be ov

she's not going to indiana. they are conceiving that bernie sanders is likely to win that first open primary in a long while. that's right, she will be in kentuc kentucky. i think it is her first stop on monday. they have been saying for quite sometimes. we think we are going to get a lot of momentum for sanders campaign. if we head in california with a lot of wins under our belt, we could have a big win in california. of course, all of that is possible but he still gets stuck with the mass. >> and in terms of ted cruz, it just seems to me that he did not get the ballot that one might expected from this would seem like a hell mary introducing the running mate, the carly fiorina card. >> on that point think about when reagan did this, it was seen outside the box and in so many ways it should have been the biggest headline of that particular day. >> and he did it after so many big primary wins. >> of course, this was related more directly to the play for the convention, of course. i was struck by the fact that whe

we're looking at a screen that shows indiana. here's the contrast with indiana on the right there. team trump spending just under a million dollars in indiana, together, team cruz and anti-trump force like yours spending four times that amount. you're spending a lot of money in indiana. can we assume, ken, by looking at those numbers on the screen, you are solely wholly focused blocking him in indiana? >> we are focused on winning delegate by delegate, we are concentrating on the delegates in pennsylvania, the unbound delegates and in fact we are focused our resources on defe defeating him in indiana. we're going to shine a light on this guy's record. he is not who he purports to be and we're not going to let him get the nomination with platitudes and false promises. >> is your pac going up with even more ads in indiana? >> we will in fact spend plenty. there will be efforts of multiplicity ofpacks and candidates. the cruz campaign most notably that will in fact work to defeat donald trump in indiana. we understand there are votes already baked in the cake through early voting. we

especially in indiana. some question of what would happen with the kasich voters whether they would stick with him. a lot of moderate to centrist republicans more business type republicans. they're not necessarily going to go with cruz. they could easily go with trump. that could inflate his margin there. you know, there's no clear victory there. you know, trump calls this an act of desperation. unclear that's actually what this is. they got to do something. >> the issue is how they talk about it. when marco rubio tried to forge his alliance with john kasich still in the race, marco rubio's staff says if you are a rubio supporter, vote for john kasich in ohio. these guys can't make themselves do that in this alliance. kasich says if you want to vote for me, vote for me. it doesn't appear to be the way cruz and his supporters are viewing this deal. listen to what ted cruz had to say about the maybe alliance. >> the fact that john kasich has pulled out of indiana gives us a straight forward head-to-head conte

win indiana first. but even if they pull that out they've got a lot of work to do out in golden state. >>> coming up, appears more and more likely the race for president is going to come down to two candidates who call new york home. so who better to talk to than a new york institution? mike lupica is going to join me on the other side to offer insight into this battle the whole country is now getting ready for but as we go to break, a brief look at carly fiorina's attempt to impress voters through music. ♪ i know two girls that i just adore ♪ ♪ i'm so happy i can see them more ♪ ♪ because we travel on the bus all day ♪ ♪ we get to play ♪ we get to play ♪ ♪ (vo) making the most out of every mile. that's why i got a subaru impreza. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. your hair is still thinning. you may have inactive follicles. re-activate them with women's rogaine® foam the only once a day product, proven to regrow new hairs up to 48% thicker revive your va va voom and save on

indiana doesn't have it -- what indiana has is mike pence. national review, the chronicle of all things conservative put out an appeal to mike pence to get off the fence. now, i'm staying resolutely on the fence. i don't know if pence is going to, but i'll make sure to get this point in. if donald trump gets close to 1,237, you might still see, lawrence, the rules committee enable the republican party to reject him. you might see that kind of -- they would certainly sunder the republican party, destroy their opportunity for a win in the fall, but it would nevertheless preserve that deep conservatism that reagan stood for. so i think anything can happen including a big ted cruz win and an outright get to the nomination. or donald trump could give a speech on the supreme court that says, here are my ten nominees starting with mike lee. i'm going to save the court and rebuild the military. trust me. and persuade enough republicans. i don't know. nobody knows. anybody who says they know is lying, larry. >> now you have to tell me what you know ab

they are scared of indiana. donald wasn't scared he show up in indiana and have a debate but he would much rather hide in trump tower. he'd much rather stay in northeastern states. jon: ted cruz campaigning in indiana, a state that has been seeded to him by the kasich campaign as the two campaigns try to coordinate to do the most damage they can to the donald trump candidacy. joining us now for a look at all of this inside politics, brett behr, the host of special report. there has been talk of forming this alliance in the past. it never really seemed to go anywhere from what i can understand that this time cruz and kasich are going to team up to try to deny donald trump the 1237 delegates that he hopes to get in a first round ballot at the convention. i guess the question is, will it work? that is a big question john. the last time this was attempted was marco rubio with john kasich. marco rubio saying to his supporters, vote for john kasich in ohio. kasich never returned the favor to say vote for marco rubio i

indiana. a last-minute deal hashed just last night by the cruz and kasich campaigns. they're going to divide up key upcoming republican primary states in an effort to stop donald trump from clinching the republican nomination. the two campaigns releasing near simultaneous statements last night saying they would be divvying up three key races in the upcoming primary calendar. the new map now looking like this. kasich ceasing campaign operations in indiana. he'd been running between 15% and 20% in the polls there. ted cruz in return giving up on oregon and new mexico. in theory at least allowing for kasich to be the sole trump opponent in those states. kasie hunt is in washington, d.c., with the latest details on what is an unprecedented last f last-ditch effort by the forces. >> this is something that is just really a stunning reversal of where these two camps were just a handful of days ago. these are two candidates who were not only feuding back and forth but whose aides were also feuding. th

indiana offers 83 democratic delegates. the sanders camp may be laying off hundreds of staffers, but he's vowing to push on. the campaign releasing its schedule. it includes rallies in south bend, evansville, fort bend and indianapolis. sanders will tackle money in his politics, tackle his plan to make public and colleges and universities tuition free. also insuring universal healthcare. he this week took jabs at the republicans as opposed to focusing wholey on clinton touting his vision. >> it is not acceptable to me is that in a time when our people are working 50 or 60 hours a week, where mom is working, dads are working, kids are working, that 58% of all no income generated today goes to the top 1%. not acceptable. >> reporter: sanders also opposing trade, any trade negotiations. he said that it differs from clinton. she's open to trade agreement if there is safety nets and job retaining programs provided. she's hitting the campaign trail hard starting tomorrow. >> we'll be watching. thanks. >>> a powerful storm causing