that opinion -- about both candidates are kind of locked in. mike dukakis was unknown and then bush told people some things about mike dukakis being a liberal, et cetera, they didn't know and didn't like. everybody knows just about everything about hillary clinton and donald trump. so, when the candidates are as well defined as they are, movement of that magnitude is less likely. >> one new variable is we have all of this money that donald trump raised just very recently. could that change things a little bit? >> not much. i have to say, some ways attractive it seems to me. this is a campaign of which the paid media has made less than the unpaid media and healthy for the society. i think unpaid media in both cases, democratic and republican were back to where it used to be and i welcome that. i think having paid media be as dominant as it's been is not unhealthy. >> in disagreement with barney, trump's tax plan is really going to help middle class folks. i mean, it's got a substantial increase in the standard deduction. it also has a lower marginal tax rate for the middle and lower