." >>> more accusations against the clinton foundation. a new report saying bill clinton aides used taxpayer funds to subsidize the family's foundation and to support hillary clinton's private e-mail now, they deny it. also, a separate report saying a foundation worker asked the state department under hillary's watch for special diplomatic passports. a big no-no. even clinton supporters are saying, the clinton family, including shell sea should sever all ties with their charity. are they right or wrong? hi, everybody, i'm david ashton. with "forbes on fox." what do you think, sabrina? >> you know, it's so interesting, david, when you look at some of the deeper numbers, like pew research is found out more than 50% said they actually know a lot about hillary's policies. what people are uncomfortable with is sort of her untrustworthiness and her honesty. there's so much for the time in office, the clinton foundation, $2 billion operation and their business deals, that is what is getting voters uncomfortable. >> even the appearance of conflict

let's look at the clinton foundation. you know all this information about it, you rake me over the coals about pay for play. the trump organization won't release any information about what's going on. >> let's be clear. there's no comparison here. you're talking about a nonprofit charitable organization that is giving millions of dollars away as opposed to a for-profit company that is benefiting from business ties in other countries. and can put the security of our country at risk. let's be clear about one thing. this individual donald trump is receiving intelligence briefings as we speak, and yet he has these interests in this organization as a company which is for-profit. that should be of concern to any voter. and so this is a real difference. you can't compare a for-profit company with a nonprofit charitable organization. >> one thing, you know, as, as a lawyer, you know, and somebody who has a mind for making the case, i feel like disclosure would be to his benefit in this situation because there's a lot of cloud of

foundation and her family. >> both the clinton foundation and the clinton health access donations on the website. but a news investigation found that both charities are ignoring laws that require them to publicly name foreign government donors and the amount they get. >> script senior national correspondent tells us the one man who can force disclosures on hundreds of millions of dollars is choosing not to. >> we have to stop the endless flow of secret unaccountable money that is distorting our elections. >> government dollars that flow through the clinton family charities that critics argue need to be accounted for. >> our investigation found two of the charities ignored a new york law and related instructions. john wunderlich have the sunlight foundation, a political watchdog. >> the clinton foundation and associated entities are trying to avoid having to tell the public who is getting the money . especially foreign governments. >> new york law requires is giving the money. the clinton foundation has never complied with foreign donations. >> they list a lump sum total. they do not

trump is accusing hillary clinton of with the clinton foundation? >> well, first of all, there is no classified or confidential information that's been passed around. >> not the e-mails. i'm talking about the -- not the classified, different subject. >> there was no sale of uranium that went to a hostile nation either. we could talk about the clinton foundation and the pay to play allegations. watch the movie called clinton cash and get up to date. this was a clerical error, it was identified and corrected. millions of americans have to deal with this every single year with the irs and it's completely different because here we are talking about mr. trump and a clerical error but we're not talking about hillary clinton and a number of hostile foreign countries who suppress women, who suppress all kinds of people all over the world that gave tens of millions -- >> there was no effort to try to influence. >> clinton foundation, not 25,000 and clerical error. >> just a clerical error, not trying to influence the investigation? that's what you're maintai

>> $156 million in contributions to the clinton foundation. it just so happens that at least half of them who gave that money, including a lot of foreign governments, people like saudi arabia, they ended up asking for phase from the city department and got them. got meetings. this is appalling to most americans, the thought that the clinton foundation was the personal piggy bank of the clintons. they weren't selling influence to the foundation. they were selling influence to the united states government. that's wrong by anybody's standards. trish: it looks as though we'll continue to get more and more information on this front. let's turn to donald trump and his trip to mexico. what did you think of him going down there to mexico and standing alongside the president there in that joint news conference? >> it was brilliant. it was incredibly risky. he goes to a place where he's unbelievably unpopular and walks right in the middle of it. he conducts himself in a diplomatic and presidential manner. it was an extraordinary coup for donald trump to

biden fielded questions about the clinton foundation. >> i think the clinton foundation has found themselves in a position where things are changing and i think he's going to change and adjust to the realities of how complicated it's all become. >> reporter: the trump campaign responded, the fact that even the vice president can't vouch for the clinton foundation's ethics speaks volumes about hillary clinton's terrible judgment. numerous a new report accused bill clinton of using special gsa funds reserved for ex-presidents to support his wife's private e-mail server. bill clinton's spokesman said it was used for his presidential correspondence, not e-mails. "this is patently false. the clintons personally paid for their server. no gsa funding was ever used for a private e-mail server anywhere, and the clinton foundation never housed a gsa funded e-mail server, private or otherwise." the gsa provides all presidents since harry truman, annual money to ensure they do not end up in poverty like truman did. $1 million a year under the former president's act. in fact, since 2008, president bill c

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a wonderlich sunlight foundation runs = :26 - :34 the clinton foundation and the associated entities are trying to avoid having to tell to the public, who is giving them money from (especially) foreign governments. [gfx] new york law requires charities to publicly name each government that gave contributions and the amount. yet the clinton foundation has never complied for its foreign government donations. david nelson private foundation expert runs: :57 - 1:02 they just list a lump sum total. they don't list each foreign government david nelson is a tax expert and former regulations and legislation council on foundations. david nelson: clinton foundation cannot say they are in compliance with ny regulations and we also found problems at the clinton health access initiative for it told the irs it received 26 million dollars in foreign and domestic government grants but the charity only reported 242 thousand in domestic grants to new york ignoring instruction to make sure the state numbers the state to make sure the state numbers matched with the irs which requires a total number both

you donated to the clinton foundation and the clinton foundation dolled the money out. what's the difference here? >> there was a case in florida where a group didn't know or didn't -- that it was from this other new jersey charity. trump was honored for that. that's where the controversy is. >> i don't understand the controversy. because if the clinton foundation gets money from a guy in kazakhstan and then gives it to somebody in haiti, the haitian people don't know who the guy is in kazakhstan is. isn't it the same thing? >> yeah, i guess it is, right. >> okay. all right? >> yeah. >> so i don't get the big scandal. it's not a partisan deal. the other thing is that $25,000 donation from the trump foundation to pam bondi, the attorney general of florida, campaign or something? >> that was to a pac. that's the controversy that

chelsea clinton is not the head of the clinton foundation. she is an unpaid member of the board of directors. there are many members of the board of directors, all are unpaid. let's go to the next step. we are talking about a charity. bob dole, to give you a sense of how far we have gone, bob dole had a charity that he operated when he was the senate majority leader on the republican side. when he was the republican nominee for president also. a great charity that did a lot of good. people who gave money to the charity also gave money to bob dole's campaign. people were not making that a political issue because it was charity. could people have been buying influence with bob dole? if they were, they did not to give him campaign contributions. that issue was off the table because people understood the difference between making money and not making money. bob dole was not making money off of the charity. the clintons are not making money off of the charity. the money coming in is going to charity. that is fine. if what you are saying is that yo

of the foundation, no one with the name of clinton is going to have anything to do with this foundation beginning right now. >> why would you fuel any of the fires. it's almost like she's walking around with two iphones again. >> right. >> don't you understand? >> she's banking on she can continue to grind this out in a conventional way. and maybe she can. but it's a big risk now. and we don't know if she's hit bottom yet. >> she's such a cautious candidate it's hard for her to be herself because she feels lake she will be hammered. >> this is one of the things they worried about in team clinton, going up against donald trump. good to see you both. >>> up next, as rich just mentioned, after weeks of questions about quote pay for play involving the clinton foundation and hillary, that foundation is holding what it says will be its very last big bash before the election. is this a good idea? we'll take a look at the possible fallout. >>> plus, the circuit producers with, mark mckinnon and mark halprin are here and next about what the cameras found at chap kwau this week. kwau this week. >

foundation. >> the reality is that all of the donations to the clinton foundation were discoverable. they were in a database that people were able to search, and there was no money going to the clintons themselves. no direct benefit to themselves. >> that's not true. >> it was charitable in exchange for nothing. you're asking for a lot of benefit of the doubt. but you've given no benefit of the doubt, despite the a.p. tried and didn't find any pay for play. just said it's optics. here we have what does look like a quid, a pro, and a quo, and you are saying, give us the benefit of the doubt. >> i'm admitting that i don't love the optics of a four-day gap. that's trouble somesosome. but this is peanuts. >> it's not peanuts. >> the clintons spent $50 million on travel. that is not a foundation. >> i'm going to end it here, but i can promise you, we'll talk more about the media later. but if the a.p. or any media organization had a pay to play on the clinton foundation, trust me, it's all we'd be talking about. this is not peanuts. it's troublesome. but good on you for admitting that it

>> let's compare it to the clinton foundation. the clinton foundation is huge. in 2014, had $1.3 million in the bank. they don't do a lot. there's not a lot of activity. trump foundation hires a lot of people. they have projects. the trump foundation doesn't have a single employee. they're very, very small. compared to the actual clinton foundation. now, the trump campaign did get back to us last night saying all the questions about the foundation are inaccurate. here's a statement.ated tens of millions of dollars to charts both through his foundation and otherwise. in addition, friends plaintiff trump have generously donated to his foundation. the statement points out trump doesn't receive compensation and he makes regular personal contributions to charities and causes of his choosing outside the foundation it here's the problem, we can't find any records of it. we just don't take his word for it. we can't at this point in his presidential election. we're not seeing signs of it. >> nord ro records of it and n returns to check it. we want you to join our panel.

we've covered the clinton foundation and their exploits a lot. donald trump's a private citizen, therefore he shouldn't have to release any of this information. in that sense, up until right now, essentially, secretary clinton and president clinton for that matter are private citizens. they haven't been in government in about four years. >> leland? secretary clinton was secretary of state for four years. >> as of the past four years they've been private citizens. as of the past -- >> while she was secretary of state, the clinton foundation continued to take foreign money, even though she signed a pledge that they wouldn't. while she was secretary of state she set up the private server -- >> boris, i -- >> all of that was while she was secretary of state. >> boris, absolutely that's her record. but my question is, you want to call the clinton foundation on the carpet for this. i completely understand that. we've done that a lot on this program. the question is, why shouldn't donald trump be held to the same disclosure standards? they're both runni

the clintons say their foundation is a force for good n. kt park bill clinton came out this week and actually said that he is kind of like be robin hood taking from the rich and giving to the poor. is there any truth to that? >> i think it's just the opposite. i think it's robinhood in reverse. in fact what he is doing is standing in front of money that's destined for poor and desperate people around the world and diverting it to his rich cronies and maybe even to his own family. the thing about the clinton statement, no one knows because they have never had an external audit of their financial records since 1997. no one really knows. >> you did the investigation that basically identified the fraud that was going on in ge. and right now you are making some statements that should have been uncovered by attorney general -- attorneys general across the united states? >> yeah, this fraud like many frauds starts small in 1997. this was supposed to be a library and research facility only in little rock. and it never got legally complying audits f

he said the clinton foundation was pay to play. you gave money to the foundation, you got special access to the state department. your response to that? the calendar does show that more than half of nongovernmental people she met with were donors 85 people out of over 2,000 people. >> no, about 150. >> no. chris, as you know, two weeks after the initial headlines said half the people -- nongovernmental people she met with, the a.p. took down their headline, their statement, acknowledging it was wrong and sloppy because they only looked at a small sliver of the nongovernmental people she met with. the important point on the clinton foundation, and maybe governor pence's proximity to people who have been fact checked for lying and dissembling. the fact is the clinton foundation discloses all their donors. governor pence should know that. the clinton foundation money has gone from an "a" rating from charity navigator because 90% of the funds it raises goes to life-saved a.i.d.s. drugs to people around the world, better food for our sc

the money going straight to the clinton foundation. now, megyn, people already know these aren't just benevolent souls. they know if hillary clinton gets elected, they may have the red carpet roll out the front door of the white house and they may get to talk to her about whatever problems they may be having. even the democrats want it shut down. what is she doing? they're raching ingramping it up. >> let me ask you about this. conceding that the clinton foundation does a lot of good the optics of this are terrible. does she need this right now in her campaign? >> i don't understand how raising money, celebrating 70 years on this planet and raising money for an undisputable good cause. i don't see how that's a scandal. >> i'll explain that without david's somewhat partisan spin. it's that people believe that these donor to the foundation may want something more than just to do good that they may want to please the future president of the united states with a big donation that could get them access to someone who would be very very powe

check his office told us the clinton foundation is in step with state roles . >> i have no idea how to reconcile the letter of the law and the statement from the atty. general. they seem to be in direct contradiction . >> the clinton health access initiatiie said that it told the office in the past if it wants to know about the foreign government contributions it can ask. adding new york has ever questioned its way of doing have a lot more on this story online to see what has been filed with new york versus the irs in to read our full investigation check out the denver channel -- thedenverchannel.com . >> right nnw don cheadle is in denver campaigning for hillary clinton. he's on the 16thhst., mall registering voters. he graduated from east high school . >> today the candidates are focusing on states. there is a new poll out from cnn and it shows a very tight race. two point lead over clinton. donald trump is worrying the mayor of vail. he is concerned that trumps anti-mexico rhetoric could hurt tourism this season. 15% of sales economy is based on . >> -- toward a result -- tourism ,

defending the clinton foundation. the family charity causing controversy during the campaign with some accusing the clintons of a pay to play scandal during her time as secretary of state. >> do you believe you contributed to the perception there were these blurred lines between the state department and the clinton foundation by having several employees who seemed to go back and forth between the two? >> no, i don't, nancy. look, everything i did at the state department i did in furtherance of america's interests and our security. the state department has said there is absolutely no evidence of any kind of external influence. melissa: there have been calls for bill clinton to step down as his wife runs for president but hillary clinton responding, quote, i don't think there are conflicts of interest. that is what has been alleged and never proven but nevertheless i take it seriously. i'm very proud of the work that the clinton foundation has done. he started this great work, if i am so fortunate enough to be elected h

they benefited from their affiliation with the clinton foundation. it was termed the india success story. they were eventually acquired, but their product was barred from the u.s. there have been trials and guilty pleas and settlements around this. but the interesting thing is you have just as you did with uranium one and the nigerian land deal and the haiti relief. there seems to be an association with bill clinton and these companies. the thing that's so egregious. people were given false hope. they were given watered down drugs. they thought they were receiving something that was going to help and it was less than helpful. lou: the corruption of this foundation seems to be staring everyone in the face, and for whatever reason, prosecutors seem to be immobilized. this is incredible. tie to the state department, boko haram. including why secretary clinton did not designate boko haram as a terrorist organization which it obviously is. >> correct. i'm pleased to see the senate zeroing in on this also. you have to look at the ties between these two com

the clintons got no money from the clinton foundation. bill and chelsea clinton are both on the board, are paid nothing. both of the board is paid nothing. and so you stand back and whenever people say, well, someone gave to the foundation, my response is so what? what is the actual benefit to hillary clinton that someone gives money to a charitable foundation that then turns around and doesn't tell her about it, you know, unless she's digging through their irs filings, doesn't tell her about it. the money goes to help poor -- >> he's filibustering. >> no, he's not. >> let me finish one point. and then they can't prove anybody got any benefit they wouldn't have otherwise gotten. one of the things i find amazing is they bring up the fact she met with a nobel prize winning individual who has been an enormous political influence in bangladesh and, oh, she met with him as secretary of state. well, no kidding. that's what secretaries of state do. >> i'm going to give you a chance to answer that specific question. the clintons don't get paid fr

so the clinton foundation, e-mails, pay to play, saudi arabia money. none of that came up in the first debate. i'm getting the impression that donald trump took enough incoming from her that he's going to take the gloves off. >> let's hope he does take the gloves off. you remember mitt romney, it's the second and third that really matter. what he's got to do is he's got to prosecute her. no more mr. nice guy, no more chelsea was in the audience. that's hogwash. chelsea has heard it all before. what we've got to do is make sure that donald trump gets out with the department of justice and the fbi is not willing to unearth and that is the whole purpose behind this server was to cover what they were doing to the pay to play 501(c)(3) alleged charity. >> i agree with you. look, donald trump has said, the next attorney general, the statute of limitations has not expired. >> no, it has not expired. also the immunity that was given to these five people does not last until -- if there's a new department of justice, they can still be prosecuted. it's just the l

they were donors to the clinton foundation. we at "daily caller," 205 clinton donors received invites to white house state dinners while hillary clinton was secretary of state. again and again we see all the money flowing into the clinton foundation. people are now buying access to power. in general the defenders of the clintons say that is totally fine, that is what happens in politics. voters look at this scratching their heads why do we want more of this with people buying access to our politicians? liz: vince, take a listen to this and give me your reaction after of afterwards. >> on advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer and assert my fifth amendment privilege. liz: that is tech specialist. working on hillary clinton's email server. this is a guy who invoked his fifth amendment right not to testify before congress but now we find out that this expert, this aide, asked for help stripping out a very important person's email address in an online chat room. that is according to a new report. he reportedly asked red

why hillary clinton will not be prosecuted for clinton foundation allegations." guest: the point i was making in this article is that there is one perception of what constitutes corruption in the public and another standard of corruption in the courts. what you have seen from the supreme court particularly is a step-by-step process in which the definition of corruption that can be prosecuted has been made about this big. it is very narrow now. it started from a standard which said corruption, when you have any appearance of corruption, very broad terms of making sure the american people have faith in their public officials. citizens united, that standard was knocked down a notch. they said if there is the appearance of a conflict, justice kennedy wrote, that will not decrease america's faith in the government. that is a pretty astounding statement based on no facts whatsoever. you have the second decision where they started saying that corruption is only quid pro quo, tit for tat, in which you have an explicit agreement, i give you this coming you give us that an

on documents released by the clinton foundation itself. this came as a top executive at the foundation asked huma abedin to obtain diplomatic passports for himself and others. the state department agreed to turn over planning schedules for hillary clinton's time as secretary to the associated press by mid-october, before the election. a major change from earlier reports that said the schedule wouldn't become public until after election day. joining me now, the author of "cleaning house, exposing our government's secrets and lies," tom fitton, and our favorite filmmaker, dinesh d'souza. it is great to see you both. first, tom fitton, to you. this report from politico, which basically sucks up to the clintons most of the time, it's a pretty solid report, it seems to me. it shows that bill clinton took $13 million in taxpayers' money to support people, his employees, when his foundation was generating $2 billion of money over that time. how can this be allowed? >> well, you know, there's a certain subsidy that former presidents get to run the

david: let's talk about a charitable foundation which has office here in new york, the clinton foundation. >> never going to see eric schneider man investigate that. david: that is the point. hillary clinton came out with series of tweets, questions she would ask donald trump, suggestions for media. >> they can be turned around on her. david: big go. exactly the point. draws coclinton. will you sever ties linked to foreign leaders, criminals if you become president? how many of those individuals associated with clinton foundation. >> how many of those individuals paid money with the clinton foundation to do business with the secretary of state? david: here is another one. willing to work with qaddafi and no dictator you're willing to work with? how about iran, terrorist state that is take tate toreship. goes on and on. isn't she drawing attention to her own problems to the clinton foundation? >> not only drawing attention to her own problems, david, but actually making suggestions of an obligation on the part of the president of the united states which the law does not impose. so if donal

from the clinton foundation. the gsa offers presidents money to make sure presidents do not en'up in poverty like president truman did. most of that went for offices and staff in hard. he. joe biden took questions. he was asked about the perceptions of the clinton foundation. >> i think the clinton foundation, like all foundations, is in a position where things are changing and i think she has changed and adjusting to the realities of complicated how things have the become. >> the trump campaign put out a statement in which it said that the fact that vice president biden did not vouch for clinton shows that she had, quote, terrible judgment. shep. >> an order has come from a judge on this matter? >> reporter: this is a separate matter. there's a story that has broken by the daily caller, in which they essentially say that -- they foia'd -- last november they foia'd from the state department something separate. this wanted to know if hillary clinton and her aide, huma abedin, and other aides, received security tra

austan, the comparison to the clinton foundation, the clinton foundation is accused of taking, you know, tens of millions of dollars, more than that, from people who are trying to essentially buy access to our secretary of state. you really think that's comparable to one donation? >> a, i believe that that is a somewhat radical mischaracterization of the charge against the clinton foundation. >> okay. >> and, b, we're trying -- >> how did i mischaracterize it? i don't want to mischaracterize it. >> so the question of access were things like the staff of the clinton foundation asking could the secretary meet with the nobel peace prize winner? and people like that. >> people who had been denied through state department channels and used the foundation contacts to get back-channel access. >> there's no acizaticusation - fbi looked at it. there has been no accusation of legal wrongdoing. in this case, there is direct admission of guilt of legal wrongdoing. they paid a fine, and it is paying a politician who was directly choosing whether or not to investigate trump university. what i would s

the clinton foundation gives less than ten. gave 9 million. >> the striking thing -- >> it's a slush fund. >> the striking thing is that donald trump's unfavorable ratings are actually higher than secretary clinton's and you talk >> he is in the latest -- >> no, i got a survey in ohio that says hillary clinton's negatives are higher than donald trump's -- >> nationally -- >> look, they are fighting hard to be each -- >> and i think he's -- [ laughter ] >> finish your thought. >> the debates are coming up and i think this will become a bigger problem for donald trump that he hasn't released taxes. he's going to have to actually answer this question over and over again on a much bigger >> doesn't this feel like the least worst choice? i mean, that seems like what we're headed for. the least worst choice. when you have two people. two historically popular nominees, guess what? between now and november 8th, nasty or not better. you will see who wins with a remarkable hilda climb. >> no doubt. >>> all right. quick 45-second break an

>> well, the distinction here, the trump foundation and clinton foundation are really different animals. the clinton foundation is really big, 2,000 employees, work all over the world. the questions about what hillary clinton did there are very different than the ones trump are facing. in her case you said it's about did she give special access or special favors to people who donated to the clinton foundation. the trump foundation is not whether he did anything wrong as a government official, obviously he's not. it's about his own personal approach to charity and his own what sort of moral responsibility does he feel to helping the world. he's obviously a very rich man, at least he says he's a very rich man. what responsibility does he feel to use that money for good. what we have found is he doesn't seem to have spent his own money to charity and in fact went to great lengths to get other people's money that he could give away so he could appear of being charitable without having the sacrifice of giving anything himself. >> thank you for joining us on "new day." >> thank you. >>> there

bill clinton and chelsea clinton are going to have nothing to do with the foundation? why not say that now? >> you know something, carol, there is a dampbs between perception and political spin. what i'm really worried about, quite frankly, foundation according to the state department has met all the proper standards of transparency and separation. state department acknowledged that. i think when you are dealing with a foundation that literally has reduced the drug costs serving 11 minu 111.5 million ph hiv/aids medication, saving 50,000 lives a year of children in kenya, ma i think they are dg extraordinary work. >> surely, another organization could take over for a time and continue the good work of the foundation, couldn't it? >> i've worked on a lot of non-profits. i have to say, number one, i don't like the chances of the survival of this foundation. it doesn't look like it is going to be compatible with where hillary clinton is heading. on the other hand, it does take time to wind something like this down. i think even in moving at top speed, i would not expect t