donald trump not only tweeted against paul ryan after paul ryan said in that conference call he could no longer go out and defend and support him, all of that kind of stuff, but then in this speech he went even further and basically suggesting there's a civil war going on between the republican nominee and the republican speaker of thes house. >> well, his suggestion would be true, and if you look at the recent "wall street journal" poll, two-thirds of republicans believe that republicans are sick with donald trump. and what republicans have done is -- given the president an opportunity to kind of stick the shiv in and say, huh, well, some of these guys were for him, now against him. does that mean that suddenly they've discovered something about donald trump that they never knew? what he's trying to do, play in the senate races and play in the house races right now. so paul ryan finds himself in a very difficult position. i believe he will still say that i cannot defend this kind of indefensible behavior, period, but he will say, believe it or not, we have been talking about the issu

but paul ryan's responsibility is different. he is trying to reassure donors, those on the ballot, those returning members of congress, as well as those choallenging democrats across the country. what we're seeing is ryan saying he will not withdraw his endorsement, but he will not defend trump. he is really sort of stepping into a separate lane, trying to preserve the house majority, and to whatever extent he can help mitch mcconnell try to preserve the republican majority in the senate. so they have different missions at this point. it is well-known that paul ryan has been uncomfortable with many things about donald trump, but he is a close friend of governor mike pence. so it is an awkward, difficult, challenging position, and they are trying to find ways to thread the needles in a very complicated set of facts, and so little time left to deal with. hallie. >> i know you'll stick around. we' we're monitoring that rally and we'll bring you any news life as it happens. i want to bring in peter king, representative from new york

right now, paul ryan sticking with donald trump. >> did you expect paul ryan to come out and say with actual out loud words at any point today that he is still planning to vote for donald trump? >> reporter: no guidance on that yet, john and kate. what will be very interesting to see is the message that he delivers to his conference internally. we will be reporting on that throughout this hour. how much does he say, you know, we need to stick together or we need to get behind donald trump, or does he equivocate at all. for the last several weeks, he's been talking about unified republican government, pushing for party unification. is that still his message? or is it going to be an anti-hillary clinton message saying we can't have hillary clinton as president, donald trump is our only choice. he had been saying that for weeks, too, saying this is a binary choice. does he still say that? it will be interesting to hear him say that but for right now, i think there's a feeling that if there was a time to dump donald trump, that would have been saturday in the aftermath of that videotape r

now it's paul ryan. before it was somebody else. it's just -- actually, i know this is going a little deep, but i want to -- i want to quote something that richard nixon said. on the day he resigned richard nixon said, always remember, others may hate you but those who hate don't win unless you hate them and then you destroy yourself. so it almost seems, david, that trump is so blinded by anger and dislike he can't see that the strategy just isn't working. >> well, i think he understands that he can read a poll number, right? he sees that in the wall street journal poll, for instance, that he's down by 11. since the first debate and certainly since the "access hollywood" tape he has lost ground against clinton nationally and in swing states, but he also as a matter of policy throughout his public life has refused to back down and refused to apologize when he's been cornered. my colleagues, bob oharo and shawn boberg has reported about this in june. this is something trump does. it's not random. he believes t random. he believes the

paul ryan. >> he's attacking john mccain. >> john mccain who has probably the dirtiest mouth in all the senate. >> i don't know what good it does to trash people. >> he's running an ad. >> north korea threatening, isis on the rihe rise. >> it's like apocalypse now. >> you're watching the split of the republican party. i think it's important that we let trump be trump. >> i'll compare my iq with anybody, okay? >> i think it's in his best interest, the party, his family, that he withdraw. >> why'd it take so long for some of them to finally walk away? we saw this coming. >> locker room talk. if that's what it's going to take to lose an election, that's pretty sad. >> he's going to transform himself? i'm 55, i know it's hard for me to change. at 70, it's harder. >>> this is the last word on campaign 2016. >>> today at 8:16 a.m., the trump campaign became the jackass campaign. it was the series created by johnny knoxville that appeared in 2000 to the delight of every teenage boy in america. the show

attacking house republican paul ryan for paul ryan saying he will no longer campaign for mr. trump. paul ryan has still not pulled his endorsement for mr. trump but that doesn't matter to mr. trump. he's very angry at paul ryan. ip it's very obvious by his tweets. say, i can now fight for america the way i want to. leapt's talk about this and also the electoral map and if any of this will help donald trump. mark preston is with me. he's the cnn politics executive editor. also larry sabatto joins me, director of the center of politics at the university of virginia. so, where do i start, mark, have you ever seen anything like this? >> no, what we're seeing right now, a republican nominee, carol, a month before election, who seems to be, as you said, absolute meltdown right now. starting to -- i mean basically what we have is the wagons that have been circled and donald trump is shooting inward right now. how better time to talk about the electoral map. the path to victory to 270 looks like it's slipping farther and farther away from donald trump. >> let's put up the map. the red is so

>> it is getting even with paul ryan. you know when donald trump is upset with someone for taking him on he punches back. he's always been doing that. we saw it through the primary and we're seeing it now. and he may be doing something to hurt paul ryan. paul ryan did have a mini rebellion on that phone call which donald trump just mentioned and donald trump has been threatening that if a lot of these leaders come at him his supporters will come back at them. and there is some truth to that. the republican base is loyal right now. he has more of the republican base than a lot of these leaders have right now. >> kailee, do you think it's a good idea for donald trump to be going after the highest ranking republican in the u.s. government? >> yes. because look, i don't think this is going after him or getting even. paul ryan used the moment. donald trump had an amazing debate. best one he's given hands down. paul ryan reacted to that by stepping on the moment. and deeply frustrating to me. and to several of our colleagues he

is that another paul ryan swipe or what? >> reporter: my first reaction to that is that there has been a lot of pressure on donald trump to try to work in a coordinated way with the rnc, reince priebus and paul ryan as the highest ranking republican official and because we know the sort of punch, counterpunch, if you're not with me, you're against me kind of attitude that donald trump displayed on twitter and in public that if he feels paul ryan is somehow working against him, then he does not feel bound by the trappings, the apparatus of the republican party. at the same time, we know that his campaign is relying very heavily on the work that the republican party has done over time to build a ground game and research, all those sorts of things. i'm sure he'll get criticism for using the term "shackles." he's incendiary almost at every turn and people can dissect that but it would strike me just hearing that for the first time he's trying to say if the republican party as an organization is not embracing me, then i'm on my o

get your comment on paul ryan. and i have to say, you to, what is your comment, i'll give mine later. lou: you know, i'm disappointed that speaker, had to go out and say something. look, we're disappointed in any republican who will will not walk arm and arm with mr. trump. lou: disappointed? really. you are disappointed? what he has just done will probably tear the republican party to pieces, if he is not stopped in his nonsense. >> we want people to reach out to speaker ryan to explain to him why it is important for him to walk with us toward election day, because, elections are about addition not subtraction, paul ryan is not allowing to us gain the spied that we need -- speed that we need to head toward election, he needs to be held accountable for it. lou: i have a few thoughts to share later, david bossey great to see you, continued good luck. >> thank you. lou: we're awaiting a trump rally in pennsylvania, we're coming right back with more. stay with us. >> trump delivers crushing blows against clinton. >> s

reince priebus and paul ryan are friends. i've considered paul ryan a friend. i respect him as the speaker of the house and that his house members have elected him as such. he has made clear that his job is frankly what john boehner's job was in 2012 which is to keep the house majority. i don't remember anybody running any stories -- why would they -- that john boehner, the speaker of the house in 2012 isn't on the plane or bus with mitt romney every day campaigning. it's not what they do. they go around and they raise money, and they help to support, protect their majority, maybe increase their majority, particularly those members, brianna, who are in tough re-election races and the open seats that perhaps are the first opportunities in many, many cycles to win a republican seat. that's what the speakers of the house do. i will repeat, though, donald trump has not stopped raising money. he raised $5 million plus yesterday. some of that money goes to the committees and it goes to the committees to help the down-ballot races, ostensibly even those who aren't sup

"i don't want to be knocking paul ryan ... i think he could be more supportive to the republican nominee," trump also suggested ryan might want saying "maybe he wants to run in four years or maybe he doesn't know how to win. maybe just doesn't know how to win?." wisconsin governor scott walker repeated today he supports trump, but not trump's criticism of ryan. "many of us for sometime have talked about the praises of paul ryan for years. so it's not one of those, that's not an either or. paul ryan doesn't need any more defense right now. he got 84 percent of the vote in the primary. i think he's well loved in the state of wisconsin as the polls and the polls in primary vividly show." reblican party put out a onsin statement last night saying the party is fully supportive of paul ryan. george and shannon? the democrat running against ryan issued a challenge today. rikki mitchell is live in nesville with tt story. that's right -- ryan solen is running against paul ryan in the first congressional district -- and has already them

so it seems from what i've been hearing, privately, if it were just paul ryan thinking about paul ryan, this is kind of something he would have wanted to do a long time ago and maybe wouldn't have even endorsed donald trump. but it sounds like he for a while has been trying to think of what the best thing is to maintain that house majority. >> yeah. >> and that's really -- now that that is sort of a line maybe more with his private feelings, that's what's going on. >> i agree with you. you work and capitol hill many years and i remember before the last state of the union speech, invited into his office with other reporters. paul ryan said at that point, donald trump is expanding the republican party. look at the people he's bringing in, excitement he's generating. i think paul ryan was torn, obviously, donald trump was an unconventional candidate during primaries but winning these primaries fair and square. and so i think paul ryan even though it took him away to get there, he came to the conclusion, listen, he needs to support the republican nominee. but it didn't take much for paul r

ryan. >> and if you had a vote -- >> paul ryan. >> republican voters -- >> paul ryan. >> i don't know if his name i.d. is that high. do you think the guy right now is the head of the republican party rank and file? >> yes, he is. i show you rank and file republicans across the nation know who paul ryan is, they'll-they have followed his career, the proposals that put out. >> is could he have beaten trump for the nomination? >> you know, that's a very interesting question. >> that's the question i just put to you. >> given that paul ryan was the nominee before, i think he would have had a great deal more cache. >> wouldn't he have carried the flag for this sort of brexit type anger that people have over immigration and stupid wars would he have been that leader? >> i think he would have been because i think he fundamentally understands it he's seen what happened to other people in their districts. >> they both -- donald trump has as a lot of very passion noter earnest people for him. you have to make a choice been asking donald trump or paul ryan, you call paul ryan. >> with his runnin

ryan will sit down -- first of all, paul ryan is a good friend. i understand where he is coming from. i may have done it differently, but i am not the speaker. he has to worry about all 246 republicans. i also know that paul is very much institutional type person. he believes in the system, the governmental system. he would feel that as speaker of the house it's his obligation to try to find a way to work with the president, certainly a president of his own party, whether or not they agree, try to find a way to work with him. that i think is what i would count on is really the good will of paul ryan in a situation like that. but it's not going to be easy. no doubt about it. >> do you think he's going to be able to lead effectively, just his party? just the members of his party, once this is all said and done, especially if donald trump loses? >> paul ryan? yes. paul has a tremendous amount of support. i would support him. i mean, again, i am supporting donald trump. i will fully support paul ryan as speaker. i think he is outstanding. he is a very

we need paul ryan to help us out. >> you need paul ryan to help you out. that's the thing. you need him, you don't need him. which one is it? because this is not how you win him back over. >> well, the thing is, measure not winning him over anyway. hopefully we can shame him into getting on or we can set ourses so far apart that the people say you know what the establishment is really screwed up here and it drives more support to donald trump. >> shaming him, the idea is shame him to get on board? >> i think so, really trying to put him in place, saying you don't own this party. the people own this party. >> simone, democrat -- >> i'd not heard of that strategy -- >> what's the play for democrats right now? >> we just need to set back and let the republicans, you know, spontaneously self-combust because they are literally tearing themselves apart. this is a civil war. this is a fight for the soul of the republican party. and the democrats, we know who we are, it's republicans who are trying to figure out who they are. this is absolutely unprecedented. for the republican nom

paul ryan not campaigning, defending donald trump. that's what he just told house republicans the strategy. >> this is a clear sign that paul ryan is more concerned about the united states house than the presidency at this point. he's very concerned clearly that they are going to perhaps be jeopardizing their control of the house. this is a situation that a few months ago, it looked like even because of so few swing districts left, democrats were saying they were optimistic but not so much to regain control of the house. clearly, paul ryan is looking at the map and saying, this might be dicey. i need my members to be in power to do what they need to do to keep their seats. >> reince priebus was on the plane with donald trump and rudy giuliani. sessions had no idea this prenews conference with women was going to take place. any idea if that's part of his line in the sand now? they have to deal with the fallout. >> here's one reason why bringing up bill clinton's accusers is so dangerous. if you loot the polling for hillary clinton, ove

saying on twitter, bryden styid stakes paul ryan isn't nor trump then i'm not for paul ryan. why is this significant? if it keeps its house majority, ryan can only be the speaker if he gets the majority on the house floor or 218 votes. we had not afford many dweshgz s defections from the gop. one point, he is getting some support from some republicans who actually support donald trump. on a private conference call with trump campaign manager kellyanne conway, a number of republicans said to her, have trump back off his attacks on paul ryan. instead attack hillary clinton. so you're seeing this really creating quite a stir on capitol hill, and on that issue, kellyanne conway did not commit one way or the other about what donald trump will do going forward. >> manu raju, thank you for the report. back with our political panel sorting through this fallout we're seeing here. juana summers, a.b. stoddard and dave icmawina. i remember an aide that said to me, looking at the majority in the house, because of the way state legislatures are controlled by republicans and able to create

paul ryan has a very difficult job. it is his job to make sure we maintain our majority in the house, which we're going to do, but the bigger the majority the better. nothing has changed ever the last few months where that's paul ryan's primary job. it was yesterday. all of us who won our races, i didn't see anything new popping up today that was different than yesterday. >> that's what he says he's going to do exclusively, he's going to work to try to maintain that public majority, but also on that conference call he made it clear he's not going to defend donald trump. is that correct? >> paul ryan has never defended donald trump. i don't see that any different than we've had in the last few months. it's going to be the movement in the grassroots that are supportive of donald trump that were a week ago. >> they're going to be campaigning together on saturday. this past saturday trump was going to go to wisconsin, paul ryan was going to welcome him there, rhein priebus also going to be there, the republican senator, the

but when talking about paul ryan, it's a good problem for paul ryan to have. if he has to worry about his speakership. because that means republicans are still in charge. that is his job right now. you have the conservative members who don't really have to worry about re-election because they are from districts where they are safe. he's looking at the full picture. he's looking at members who might be at risk of losing to democrats in a wave against trump. so that is his primary concern right now. it's about protecting the house and keeping it in republican hands. donald trump is going -- he has to think about these tweets long-term if he's actually going to be president. how in the world is he going to work with these people who he has insulted over and over again. maybe that will be a good problem for him to have because he will be president and have to figure that out. >> i want to come back to the idea of the change in language from the trump team about how they are referring to the "access hollywood" tapes and talking about the fact he bragged about being

not for paul ryan." let me bring in republican national committee member randy evans, welcome back. >> nice to be back. thank you. >> just to be crystal clear, ryan has not withdrawn his endorsement of trump, he says he will defend on focusing down-ballot races. many i question to you, sir, whose republican party is it right now? is it trump's party or paul ryan's party. >> i think it's all of the above. it's what you and i talked about four months ago. you may remember this. >> i remember everything you tell me, randy evans. >> you said "what's it going to be like in october?" and i said well, you have to agent of change running and you have the congress controlled business his own party, how do you reconcile the two? inevitably an agent of change is going to say change has to begin in the congress and the presidency and the white house. that's what we're seeing happen here. it's like, if you will, the election of 1912, neither you nor i were here but if you remember that was the year teddy roosevelt fo

paul ryan fired back in a sharply written reduke. paul ryan is focusing on defeating democrats and all republicans running for office should probably do the same. let's bring in the panel. april ryan has american urban radio network. michael steel with the press secretary for the former press secretary. the president and ceo of latino and msnbc contributor. nice to see all of you with us. right off the bat, donald trump staunched the bleeding as it were. it was a better base that was satisfied. and the new poll said basically, republicans should stick with this guy. we like this guy. why is he going after them in this way and effectively increasing the fut within the party? >> if donald trump loses to hillary clinton, it's because donald trump lost. the establishment republicans were not anything else. he lost an utterly winnable race. >> the message should be good change. he clearly hasn't put a good messenger for that, but he needs a base and you need republicans in general and more than just the republicans. >> this tweet storm wi

which was, you know, donald trump not -- criticizing paul ryan, because paul ryan was playing footsie and wasn't sure whoa support him and now tried to make it work a while and clearly it's not working and if there's a very, a distinct separation. >> will we see, ed, more republicans, for example, in the house of representatives and the senate for that matter walk away from donald trump? >> what we'll have to see, i think if you're a vulnerable senator, republican senator, who hasn't weighed in by now, questionable. most of them have in one way or the other. you saw john mccain and kelly ayotte, thanks, no thanks. no longer supportering. >> jason chaffetz. >> from utah. through the rest of today and tomorrow, probably hear again from those more vulnerable members who are in sort of races on the bubble. elise stefanik, from the adirondacks in new york tried to hug the line in the middle there. she may break one way or the other. other races across new york state, frankly, that are, you might think of. probably some members down in florida. out in the midwest. probably have to think abo

here is the situation paul ryan faces. he's either going to come back to washington with a very slim down republican majority in which will it will be difficult for him to be elected speaker, that's a fact. or, he may leave congress. some people argued his political future is adventagious. the best scenario is he loses the opportunity and can be loyal to hillary clinton. paul ryan has not said he's going to run for president in 2020. this is all a guessing game. being a opposition is not a bad look for paul ryan if hillary clinton is president for 2016. >> paul ryan spends his adult life in dc, he was elected by the time he was 29-year-old and 45 as speaker of the house, the job that he did not want to accept but he has taken the charge and done so sovalley. could these two men could be govern under the umbrella if that's the case after november the 8th. >> paul ryan says he thinks his agenda is best handled by donald trump. there is no evidence of that. paul ryan and donald trump disagr disagreed on almost everything, on

he mocked paul ryan yesterday via twitter. this really is an existential crisis for the party. >> i cover politics in arizona. what john mccain is echoing is the concerns of the conservative voters there. it is not just arizona. it is across the country. i think what the trump campaign will have to do is try to convince voters not to follow their local lawmakers and stay on board the trump train. i don't know if he will be able to do that. i don't know if this is the approach with the attacks to convince them to do that. >> the big story in the last 24 hours is the backlash against the backlash. you had house members angry at paul ryan. a new york times story with quotes from arizona. trump voters angry at john mccain saying they will vote for the democrat because john mccain turned his back on trump. it is a tough place to be. it is unclear who benefits and doesn't from the back turning. >>> another interesting development overnight. late night comedy. late night television shows. we don't get to see them. overnight, they wen

wouldn't you think that paul ryan would call in and say, good going? there's a whole sinister deal going on. in fact, i took her out furniture shopping. >> reporter: the contro sersy is hot on his trail as this protester blared the audio of the tape. the gop is venting its frustrations on fox news. >> i wouldn't want to be in a foxhole with a lot of these people, including ryan. >> reporter: if he wins, trump warned ryan may be replaced. >> maybe he'll be in a different position. >> reporter: as he tried again to explain away his offensive comments. >> a lot of women have come up to me and say i've heard a lot worse. if that what it takes to lose an election, that's sad. >> reporter: of 31 gop governors, 54 republican senators, 8706 those leaders are not endorsing trump. >> play-to-play politics, staggering amounts of cash poured into the criminal foundation for criminals, dictators, countries that hate america. >> reporter: the trump campaign blasted you a new ad, reminding that the goal is to beat clinton. the campaign manager argued this is no time

paul ryan and others give zero support. joining me now, tammy bruce and steven hayes. steven, let me start with you. what do you make of this? it worked well for done there are the primaries and i think he's gone back for what works for him. >> it works well in a primary when you have 16 other candidates. it doesn't work so well when you are attacking the leading republican when you need republican votes. he needs somewhere between 92% to 93% of republicans to vote for him. he last 9% of republicans who said they would not longer vote for him. he's moving in the wrong direction. charles: i think the numbers have improved the last couple hours. even if he had 90-plus percent, there is the issue of beyond the core of the party. >> you saw the independents were acting positively to the debate sunday. but i do have to note. i was a democrat up until 2008. the reaction on the democrat's side is always to circle the wagon, they did that with bill clinton. the reaction of the republicans was to publicly effectively abandon mr. tru

paul ryan second. angry at mitch mcconnell and the republican establishment. >> some of them i think will be really angry at him too. he's promised he's going to win. he ran for the nomination saying he could only be the one to beat her. >> they're stabbing me in the back. how am iupposed to win if paul ryan and republican leaders in washington keep standing me in the back. >> some will buy it. >> there's an element to this and it refueled itself yesterday in pennsylvania with donald trump. he's more dangerous than dynamite. >> look at those fans. >> it fits into what mark is saying. we're going to be left -- the carnage after this election, we'll be left with i don't know what percentage. 30%, 35% out there who will be more than angry. they'll be convinced that as he points out consistently now the election is rigged. it's fixed. it's against him and thus it's against you. you're going to have a permanent class, 30%, 35% of the people so bitter and so angry -- >> we have it now. >> they're going to ha

paul ryan feel that is the party has a lot of soul searching. you know paul ryan really well and you helped him in the 2012 are his actions enough and do you think he should avoid unendorsing trump at this point? >> i think paul is a good man and he's con atlanticed over this because of the fact that this was a candidate that was dominated by the people. he feels an obligation to support the will of the people. but, at some point, it does get to be kind of a enough is enough. and, i think basically what he's saying is this is a situation now for this nominee has a potential to be such a huge drag on the ticket that all of you could be in jeopardy so it is kind of an every person is for themselves and every man and woman is for themselves. you do what you need to do but don't feel like you need to do one thing or another of support of me. em fr i am freeing you. >> if paul ryan is saying that he wants to abide by the will of the people, does that mean that paul ryan does not have a temperature check on who the people are that can pry the gop beca

paul ryan listened to his members. he didn't push back when he got those retorts but did make this clear, john, that he will not unendorse donald trump. at least not at this time. so he's -- so he's still going to vote for donald trump it seems, but it looks like right now not going to defend donald trump. so major division within the party ranks after that second debate, john. >> manu raju, thank you. not unendorsed, paul ryan, but made clear he won't defend donald trump. i'm not sure what still endorsing donald trump means in this environment, but we're 29 days from a presidential election. republicans used to be the party of discipline, now in total chaos. >> all is wen, john. all is well. no. the schism is here, has been here, was here before the convention works have been there whether there was floor vote or not. all of these things meant to pull the party together don't pull the party together, because there's a schism on whether this guy is fit, and that will remain throughout these next three days. paul ryan,

donald trump has been savaging paul ryan. he's been suggesting there's something sinister going on, that paul ryan is masterminding some kind of a plot to undermine him. so that has resonance with the republican base. i can tell you, a lot of folks close to paul ryan are really worried about the effect, the toxic effect that trump's rhetoric is having among the republican base and the way that they view paul ryan >> sreenivasan: all right, something to keep an eye on. jonathan swan from "the hill,"" thanks for joining us. >> a pleasure. >> sreenivasan: there's another, new international agreement to combat climate change. today, at a summit in rwanda, 140 nations agreed to freeze and then phase down their use of hydrofluorocarbons, chemicals used in air conditioning and refrigerators that also warm the earth's atmosphere. this deal follows last week's formal adoption of the paris climate accords that require members of the united nations to limit emissions of planet- warming gases like carbon dioxide. a quarter of the greenho

not for paul ryan. it's an if/then statement. >> are you giving paul ryan effectively a chance to come around and support donald trump? is that what you're saying? >> absolutely. i am encouraging the speaker of the house, and all republicans, to stay on board for three and a half weeks. that's all we're talking about here. three and a half weeks. the balance of the supreme court hangs on this election. >> but it wouldn't be three and a half weeks, would it? if donald trump is elected president, that's for three and a half weeks plus four years, right? in fact you're asking for them to support for the long haul. >> i am asking them to support donald trump because this election is bigger than donald trump. this election is bigger than paul ryan. it's bigger than any of us who serve in elected office. the supreme court hangs in the balance. donald trump has shown us who he will appoint to the supreme court, and we know, based on who bill clinton appointed to the supreme court, who bill clinton -- or who hi

and going after paul ryan, the highest ranking republican. what we're watching here is just incredible destruction pulling down the pillars of his own party. and basically he started out by saying, listen, i don't need those damn people. and i'll win on my own. and if i go down it is because of them. >> and in the meantime, mike pence here -- actually let me bring up sort of a john mccain moment. trying to tamp it down at the town hall and say something just isn't right. isn't appropriate. here se is when a woman wins she wants to support an actual revolution today. >> from me personally? if hillary clinton gets in, i myself, i'm ready for a revolution because we can't have her in. >> yeah you don't -- >> but i'm just saying it. >> what you do make there of mike pence basically saying no. no, that is not what this is about. >> well i think he is trying to play the responsible adult in this. and thank goodness he is. that was very important. back you remember when john mccain ran with sarah palin. i think he played a very responsible role and

paul ryan is a fundamentally different person than donald trump. paul ryan's a true conservative when it comes to both family values and economic values. paul ryan is a, you know, deeply decent and moral person, who wanted the republican party to be more inclusive, and i think he's always been agonized about the fact that trump became the nominee and now he's distancing himself. so this is not a surprise. maybe the surprise is that it took this long. >> what is the risk to some of the down-ballot candidates, walter, about making a public statement or denouncing donald trump publicly? because when paul ryan withheld his endorsement of trump, trump turned on him and tried to weaken him in his home state. >> yeah, i think donald trump, we've seen clear one of his spokespersons said, you know, these are people who have also committed sexual assault or something, so there will be unleashed a barrage from, i think, trump and certainly trump supporters against some of these people, but at a certain point it's a question of honor, it's a question of morals

ryan isn't for trump, then i'm not for paul ryan." and why is this significant is that mr. brandenstein voted for paul ryan in 2015 when ryan ran for the speakership. so if paul ryan wants to be speaker, he needs to limit defections on the house floor and if people like jthis senato are angry, it will make it hard. paul ryan is still endorsing donald trump. he just said he won't campaign or defend him. clearly a lot of republicans and conservatives who believe that position that ryan is taking is making it harder for them to unite at this point in the election, brooke. >> manu raju breaking the news for us today. also as we mentioned donald trump is in the battleground state of florida today, two events rolling out a fresh set of familiar accusations about the clinton campaign. here you go. >> the department of justice fed information -- think of this -- to the clinton campaign about the e-mail investigation. so that the campaign could be prepared to cover up her crimes. this corruption and collusion is just one more reason why i will

but they courted paul ryan. mr. trump went to the capitol to meet with paul ryan and husband caucus, his delegation. so they wanted him. we're not talking about a list, growing list of republicans who they decided not to ask for their endorsement. this was people whose endorsements they wanted, they sought, and now they're fleeing ship. and this tape, i think, has moved republicans to do that because it's not the first time. this is a continuing escalating line of him attacking americans. >> i'll get to the trouble for your side in a minute. first, corey, are you concerned about the new polls that are out that show nationally donald trump with a double-digit deficit? >> again, national polls at this point don't matter. >> okay. but battleground polls also show him sliding. >> what unfortunately i don't think your electoral map shows when it comes to donald trump's path to 270, the state of maine. you give that all to hillary clinton. no way that's going to happen. the state of maine is allocated proportionally. >> s

senators and others, and paul ryan led to a certain extent by paul ryan -- i think we should get support. and we don't get the support by paul ryan. >> there's nothing more cruel that you can say about paul ryan than budgets. i don't think there's anything more personal to him. >> it's pretty clear, i don't think he's looking for republican voters necessarily. he's looking for people who have voted for republicans people who might have identified with republicans but are frustrated with the party. the sort of white working class voter who forms the core of his constituency. people angry at washington. angry at the system. he wants every single one of those to vote. i don't think most experts think there are enough of them out there to win an election. >> we also know that trump was at a rally in florida. he'll also be in florida today. an important state. he's seizing on the latest wikileaks stuff. list ton him in panama city. >> the hillary clinton documents released today by wikileaks make more clear than ever just how much is at take in this election. so much corruption. this is collu

lashing back at house speaker paul ryan. ryan in a conference call saying he would no longer campaign with donald trump. he also told republican lawmakers it is up to them to do how they see fit. donald trump lashed out in a feet and also at his rally here in pennsylvania where he mentioned paul ryan, just not by name. >> isn't it too bad we don't have stronger leadership on both sides. i mean, you know, you have people who can't fix a budget, but they start talking about their nominee, but they can't fix the budget. isn't it sad we don't have stronger leadership on both sides? that will change if we win on november 8th. >> reporter: this us versus them mentality. washington establishment versus him mentality is something donald trump has used and leaned on many times in the past. especially in the early days of the campaign. now it help s motivate his trie and true core supporters. >> and mike pence put to rest any doubts if he would remain the running mate. pence canceled a weekend campaign appearance and issued a statemen

paul ryan is picking up on this as well. out with a statement just now saying paul ryan will be working to defeat democrats this november and all republicans should be working to do the same. that's the republican party saying, you know, we are going to work against democrats. paul ryan not necessarily pulling support of trump but telling the members of congress they should do what's best in their individual situations as they hit the trail and november 8 draws nearer. tonight i'm told we should expect trump to talk about national security. more on hillary clinton's judgment. that ad is a culmination of the things we have been seeing from him on the trail until this point. >> you know, when you look at the tweets there is talk that this is donald trump laying the groundwork for complaints if he were to lose come november. you are there at the rallies. i see you all the time. one of our embeds on the trail. the crowds, how does it work when trump talks about rigged electi elections. people are picking that up. at least their

house speaker paul ryan writing trump off. trump blasting him back, and senator john mccain making it clear, he is out. >> mr. trump attacks women, that is a point where i just have to part company. >> back to the future? the clinton campaign dusting off good old al gore. trotting him out today to woo millennials? >> thank you, al gore. you're super awesome. excelsior. >> super awesome. plus, big and little. this is actually scary. so more fun-ish on the trail. mini trump stealing the show. >> do you want to go back to them or stay with donald trump? >> trump. >> my goodness. we are talking donald trump, not with mini trump. talking about donald and his war with the clintons and with his own party. he just sent out this tweet. despite winning the second debate in a landslide, purengt cease, every poll, it's hard to do when paul ryan and others give zero support. i want to point out there is zero scientific evidence, not one single scientific poll that shows donald trump winning the debate. let's make that clear. and even worse

launching a threat against paul ryan on fox news. let's listen. >> if you are elected president, you are going to need mccain and ryan. you are going to need them. >> they will be there. i think ryan will be there in a different position. >> all right. we want to bring in associate editor at the hill. joining me by phone, washington bureau chief megan murphy. let's start with you. trying to figure out what the strategy is in the trump campaign. sometimes it's what's the strategy or is there a strategy? that's what comes to my mind when i see the war with paul ryan. do you think there is something to be gained electoralry with trump by handling it this aggressively. >> i'm not sure how persuasive that is. the argument is there is a considerable sway of the conservative base that is dissatisfied with republicans in washington that likes attacks on ryan because they think the people like ryan are insufficiently conservative and they will therefore be all the morardent in their support. we have seen from every poll that there not enough

paul ryan, let me ask you. this is i think outrageous what he's doing to donald trump and the millions of voters who supported him and the republican party. should he be thrown out? >> he will decide that after the election. the thing is. it's not doing trump a lot of damage. in fact quite the opposite. trump scored well in the debate sunday night. the key thing is going after hillary and these tweets which are coming out with more and more damage. lou: we can't keep up with it. we have over 5,000 tweets since friday to go through. we are getting a lot ohelp. but it is a picture of absolute corruption. there is no line in the white house, the campaign, the justice department, my god. >> this is where trump started to do it in the debate when he threw in the zinger hillary, you have $250 million illegally as secretary of state, why don't you use some of that money to finance your campaign. that was a very clever way. if he pursues that line in the next debate. the corruption, do we want four more years of clinto

but paul ryan is voting for donald trump. he made that very clear. we're very grateful to have his support. the support of mitch mcconnell and frankly the support of republican leaders across the country. but i have to tell you that you know, part of our message, you know, in north carolina yesterday, what donald trump said in naples on sunday, my message in ohio today, is just you know, donald trump has reached out to many democrats across the country who are tired of these trade deals that have cost jobs and liberal policies coming out of washington. he has reached out to many independents tired of gridlock in washington, d.c. nation's capitol that doesn't get anything done. but also it is time for republicans to come home. to come home and elect the trump/pence team to the white house. we are calling on republicans to come home. re-elect house majority in the house and senate. the combination of those two things will make it possible for us to bring real change to washington, d.c. and donald trump and i look forward to carrying that message all ac

paul ryan did not respond to trump's tweets personally. instead a spokesman says "paul ryan is focusing the next month on defeating democrats, & all republicans running for office should probably do the same.'' ryan has been tweeting about policy. back to you. vote will be disqualified. but efforts are being made to keep that from happening. mail in absentee ballots require a witness' signature and their address. but some witnesses haven't been including their municipality. and that's a requirement. the milwaukee election commission was told they'll have to contact the voters and get their permission to use the municipality on the envelope or return the ballots so the voter can complete the we're told there's going to be a hearing on friday to sort it all out. 'its an oversight that should not be difficult for people to understand. but its certainly not so significant that it should result in someones ballot not being counted in an election.' :31 so far-- more than 500 ballots in milwaukee are affected. if you think yours could be one of t

he goes -- you know, paul ryan, i'm not a big fan of paul ryan. he comes out and says, i'm not going to be seen with the guy again. and he says, okay, buster, we're going to fight and i'm going to win this without you and i'm going to make you look stupid. the same thing with john mccain, the guy who ran for vice president last night, the guy to ran for president the time before, going into a boxing match in a back room with these guys. >> reporter: listen, i talked to a top adviser of donald trump within the last 30 minutes about that very issue, why pick these fights, why do this? and his strategy is, part of it is, it fits with his message of going after washington and going after the establishment, rather than do it rhetorically, donald trump's going to do it on twitter. yes, he's going to continue to go after hillary clinton in ways that you have seen develop over the last maybe several days, starting with that debate on sunday night. and even over the weekend a little bit. we expect to see more of that tonight here in panama city, but this i

senators and others and paul ryan. i'm just tired of nonsupport and i don't really want his support. >> if you were elected president, you're going to need mccain and you're going to need ryan. you're going to need these guys. >> they'll be there. they'll be there. i would think that ryan maybe wouldn't be there. maybe he'll be in a different position. >> for his part, paul ryan had this to say to voters in a new video just out this morning. take a look. >> i want to lead a good life. if you want to be able to lead your life, then you want to have a country founded on core principles that allow you to lead your life. and that is what conservativism seeks to conserve. that is what we believe in. it's animating, it's optimistic, it's hopeful and it's inclusive because it applies equally to everybody. >> there's new fallout for the trump campaign. nbc news has learned exclusively some big dollar donors are demanding refunds. appalled by trump's lewd comments on that 2005 tape. president obama mentioning comments made by t

charles: paul ryan bails on donald trump, trump blasts paul ryan, rank and file pointing fingers, just 29 days until the election. we're in unchartered waters. carl, we start with you. you know what is going on. paul ryan never was a big donald trump fan. but when he decided to knicks that joint appearance they were going to have, was that last straw for donald trump? >> i think it is, they have always been at a riff, and what makes paul ryan so star spangled awesome, criticizing who never admitted to being perfect and not campaigning to be the pope. this is what republican party in u.s. voted for you, you are third highest in office, get behind your man. charles: did you think that speaker of house would be this arm's length, you could argue that trying to sabotage the guy at top of the ticket. i don't think we've seen this before? >> i don't think he is sabotaging but i think he is holding out saying, let's see how this plays out, because i don't want to hurt myself. he was so disgusted the other day. this is a country that bought 80 million copies of "50 shades of grey," you think t