amy: that was rick perry during a televised debate in 2011. he later told reporters that the agency he had forgotten was the energy department. perry has deep ties to the fossil fuel industry, including serving on the corporate boards of both energy transfer partners and sunoco logistics, two companies behind the dakota access pipeline. both companies are owned by texas billionaire kelcy warren. perry joined the board of energy transfer partners in february 2015, only two weeks after he left office. that yeaear perry received $365,000 from warren's companies. we'll have more on perry later in the broadcast. the energy department is defying donald trump's transition team, saying it will not provide the names of people working on the obama administration's climate policy. last week, trump's team circulated a 74-part questionnaire at the department of energy, requesting the names of employees working on specific climate-related projects and the names of employees who have attended climate talks over the last five years. many have denounced the mo

he says the rick perry choice is so perplexing. i think very few people understand that the energy department to a very substantial degree is dealing with nuclear weapons. and rick perry suggested the agency should be abolished. that suggests, he thinks, it doesn't have value. that was former senator byron dorgan. what do you think about that, marc? >> i think that rick -- like the senator, i think rick perry didn't understand the full scope of the department. and i think the best argument for rick persy t sry is what be made. he believes in shrinking government. to take it back to the diversity point for a moment, it's a compelling one, he has the right ideology and has experience implementing that ideology. i would be willing to wanler and anyone would agree that there are lots of people who have the same ideology and some level of experience doing that. they may be cambodian or women -- >> let me say one thing about rick perry. i know him pretty well and one of the things about him is he understood how the state was having to fi

and giana, i want to get your opinion on rick perry. he served three four year terms in 2004, 2006, and 2010. he is on the board of energy transfer partners trying to build the dakota access pipeline. he has deep ties, but he wanted to get rid of the government. >> i would say that rick perry, in his presidential run, he had ideas. but at this particular juncture, i think she an excellent pick for a few reasons. rick perry said since becoming the governor of a state that created one-third of all of the jobs in the country until january of 2015. they were renewable jobs. this is a fridge that grew jobs in the state. he understands regulation, and how now to suffocate jobs. i the he is a great pick an someone who can add a lot to the table. >> if you think donald trump wants to keep people dressing, this is certainly doing it again whether or not it is climate change or something else, here is what he said you can react on the other side. >> it was a sincere search for areas of common ground. i had a meeting beforehand with ivanka trump.

we've got trump, tillerson, pruitt and now rick perry. here's what rick perry said in 2011. "i think we're seeing it almost weekly or even daily, scientists who are coming forward and questioning the original idea that manmade global warming is what is causing the climate to change. that is 100% false. that is not true. 98% of scientists say that climate change is manmade." so you have a man who's coming into the energy department who's a climate change denier -- >> but voters heard this and they voted -- >> i know. but i'm telling you people should be concerned about this and should rebel against this. and let me make an economic point if the moral point doesn't fly. there is going to be a huge energy industry throughout the world that's going to address climate change. it would be foolish for the united states not to be a part of that, and the energy department is part of where it's developed. >> jeffrey, as a trump supporter what is the message you think trump is sending by whether it's pruitt -- >> right. >> -- the epa -- >> that he was elected to change policy and he's

that is one-time republican presidential candidate rick perry. so, what does this mean that he has been the choice? let's bring back our panel, jackie, selena and ron brownste brownstein. you like this, trump gives people a second look. he's a very popular governor from texas and known as a popular guy. i don't know if that is a widespread impression of rick per perry. i don't think anybody has ever said that. nobody has come out and trumpeted about him since he has been nominated. what do you think the play is? >> i covered texas politics a lot. he's the longest serving governor from texas. he is well thought of, not only in texas, but in the conservative community. you know, i think that trump is trying to, you know, put deep conservatives, you know, ones that stick to the conservative orthodoxies and sprinkle them into his cabinet. you see ben carson and nikki haley and you see perry and those are very important picks to him. you see jeff sessions and, you know, he's promised to put the smartest people in there, but, you know, also a lot of ch

energy secretary rick perry. that's the choice that donald trump is making for the energy department. and we also learn that ryan zinke, a republican congressman from montana has been tapped for interior secretary. and there are other auditions going on at trump tower. we understand katrina pearson, a spokesperson during the cycle, he was at trump tower earlier today. we were told to talk about the position of press secretary as well as other positions in the administration, don. >> okay. so paul ryan was by his side tonight. are they on the same page now, jim? >> reporter: on the same page, that is a tricky question. as we saw during the campaign, they were not on the same page. there were times when paul ryan had to cancel campaign appearances with donald trump. he did not want to appear essentially by and large with donald trump during this election cycle. but, he was here on stage tonight. there were a few boos for the house speaker. some republicans here in wisconsin who are still upset with the speaker of t

trump, tillerson, pruitt and now rick perry. here is what rick perry said in 2011. i think we're seeing it almost weekly or daily scientists coming forward and questioning the idea that man made global warming is what is causing the climate to change. that is a 100% false. that is not true. 98% say that climate change is man made. so you have a man who is coming into the energy department who's a climate change denier. >> voters heard this and they voted and they decided and -- >> i'm telling you people should be concerned about this and rebel against and let me make an economic point if a moral point doesn't fly. there is going to be a huge energy industry throughout the world that is going to address climate change. it would be foolish for the united states not to be a part of that and the energy department is part of where it's developing. >> what is the message you think trump is sending by? >> that he was elected to change policy and he's going to do it. one of the key things here anderson that is not talked about often enough. i have a column coming out tomorr

rick perry endorsed donald trump in may and then rick perry joined dancing with the stars and the judges booted him in the second round of eliminations. the president elect has been holding another round of meetings at trump tower and a visitor, the rapper kanye west after a public meltdown. donald trump and west came down to the lobby together after the meeting. >> what did you discuss in the meeting today? >> just friends. just friends and he's a good man. doing well. long time. we've been friends for a long time. life. >> no comment about your meeting with the president elect, the president elect of the united states, nothing to say? >> i just want to take a picture. >> the trump campaign says kanye west requested the meeting with donald trump. there is no time for the news conference the president elect had scheduled for thursday. it is not rescheduled and no date has been given but they did tell us sometime in january so we won't get specifics on his business ties and plans to avoid conflicts of interests, in fact we're not getting specifics on anything, but we will get to david lee

he has the ceo and rick perry for energy. i think we will see a change in the way we deal with energy. do you think? >> he is the first guy to lead a department and he couldn't remember the name of it. nothing you said is as remotely offensive as that video. i know you don't know him as a rapper, but probably as an uber driver. listen to me. this is the one thing i admired about his transition process is he is creating an environment you can do bu politics. everybody is greeted with a handshake and a smile and it looks like ideas are being exchanged. there has been an exchange of ideas and he is bringing in people from other processes. is that a word? i went to community college. >> i think i have been here and trump is in the wwe hall of fame. he has hired linda mcman who was the wife of vince mcman. trump and linda mcman have both taken stone cold stunners in front of the large groups of people. there are two people in that building that have taken stone cold stunners. in a few years they will say please, politicians again.

i do want to say, carol, that was rick perry's first presidential run. his second presidential run, which was more brief when he was actually an opponent donald trump's very early in the season and came out with a scathing rebuke of donald trump at that time. and now he's going to be sitting in cabinet meetings working for donald trump as his energy secretary. to ron's point earlier, i think this is one of those that shows donald trump not afraid to take former critics and seat them at the table. >> so do you think that's it or is maybe rick perry someone that donald trump can control? >> no, look, think it's very telling to see perry and tillerson nominations kind of in tandem. they tell you a couple things. i think the biggest thing they tell you is on most domestic issues with a couple of exceptions, donald trump is largely in tune with what the republican party and congress has wanted to do in terms of rolling back federal regulation, reducing federal spending, cutting taxes and kind of diminish being the role of the federal government in national li

how did this come about for rick perry do you think? >> well, first of all, i feel compelled to point out that texas is the most republican state in the country. so to skip over texas being we have the secretary of state now. so we're getting a representation in the cabinet. but rick perry is a guy with a tremendous record of job creation. texas economy is not entirely dependent but is very intertwined with the energy sector. he's familiar with that. it is pretty amazing to pick somebody who wants to get rid of that department who did want to, the trump people say now we're not sure if that's really the agenda but streamlining government is part of the agenda and we'll talk about that. there seems to be a chemistry between the two men. perry, you may recall, he's the one who called trump a cancer on conservativism. so this is really a huge 180. eventually perry came around. he supported ted cruz later in the primaries after he dropped out. he was kind of late to the trump party. but very enthusiastic once he got there as a surrogate thr

this as trump says he will select rick perry as his energy secretary. from oil rich texas. perry once proposed eliminating the oil department altogether. in trying explain why, had this epic oops moment. >> the third one i can't. oops. >> trump is delaying his own announcement about his man to separate himself from his business empire. poe. postponing a news conference from thursday until jab. trump tweeting this. even though i am not mandated by law to do so, i will be leaving my businesses before january 20 so i can focus full time on the presidency. two of my children plus executives will manage them. no new deals will be done in my terms of office. fru trump was able to find time to meet with someone not in contention for a post, hip hop star kanye west. >> i just want a picture right now. >> while that was of a personal variety, he also met with activists and advocates recommending the african-american community. among them, football super stars ray lewis and jim brown. why that's notable, jim brown is a long time advocate on the civil rights side of things. came in af

. >> and peter, going back to the possibility of rick perry leading the energy department. it's interesting, this is another selection potentially who has taken a strong stance against the agency they would head. do we know anymore about the thinking here? >> the bottom line is there's early criticism about this. hillary clinton's own vice presidential candidate tim kaine moments ago basically tweeting, tillerson for secretary of state, what's next? a climate change denier or epa or energy? of course, scott pruitt, who's now been selected as secretary of energy is a skeptic, it's safe to say, of climate change and a similar view on this. so he was mocking the selection there. rick perry clearly has been a person that despite calling donald trump a cancer on conservatism early in the campaign ultimately came around to be a surrogate for donald trump and when we repeatedly he hear, in the eyes of one's effectiveness is you have the ear of the president-elect and rick perry after a good visit he is someone at least donald trump is willing to listen to. >> thank you very much.

well team trump is asking a tall order of rick perry. is the former governor of texas the right pick to lead a department he wanted to abolish. when he can remember it. we discuss all that into the bottom line. we live in a pick and choose world.

you mentioned that rick perry was a former rival, not just a former rival but called donald trump a cancer on conservatism but donald trump reaching to rivals wanting to put them in cabinet. well versed in the energy sector and invested in fossil fuels and he was saying four years ago he we wanted to abolish the department he is running in with ryan zinke expected to be secretary. two cabinet pix left for donald trump, he may try to get them out of the way by christmas but agriculture secretary is taking longer than they would like as well as secretary of veterans affairs. last night wisconsin, monumental event for the trump campaign with paul ryan and rocky relation, paul ryan presenting donald trump and the vice president elect with green bay packers jerseys. number 45 on it. when ryan came up he was booed up, hey, everything is all right. listen to trump last night. >> i come to appreciate him. speaker paul ryan, where is the speaker? where is he? he has been, i tell you, he has been terrific and you know honestly he's like a fine wine, every day goes by, i get to appreciate his genius

those are all key issues that the president-elect liked about rick perry. now, there's also history here. obviously, nome did he serve as governor but also ran for president twice including in 2012, when he had this interesting debate moment. take a listen. >> and i will tell you, it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education and the -- what's the third one there? let's see -- the third agency of government i would do away with the education -- the -- commerce -- and, let's see -- i can't -- the third one. i can't. sorry. oops. >> so the third agency was the energy department, which he forget at that moment, but also an agency he at one point running for president pledged to eliminate. he will now be tanked should the senate confirm him running that very agency. the energy department isn't just about energy development or fracking. it is also and primarily about overseeing the u.s. nuclear arsen arsenal, proliferation and security. a lot of questions rick perry has to answer not just about energy specific issues as he

rick perry is the leading candidate right now for secretary of energy. both of them up for that post. what's notable is it was back in 2011 in the republican primary debate, remember the famous oops moment. he was talking about the agencies he would want to get rid of. one was energy, but he said oops because he couldn't remember it at the time. also expected today at trump tower, the washington state congresswoman that is cathy mcmorris rodgers. her name is rumored as the next possible secretary of the interior. raul labrador will be at trump tower today, as well as a another former trump rival, carly fiorina expected to make an appearance. >> i want to talk a bit about rex tillerson. at this moment, it seems the exxonmobil ceo appears to be donald trump's pick for secretary of state. a lot of people are uncomfortable. how difficult will it be for rex tillerson to get confirmed given the close relationship he has, albeit a business relationship, with russia. the fact that exxonmobil cannot drill in the arctic, if those sanctions were lifted, that would

so he appoints rick perry as head of a department that rick perry wanted to get rid of. he'll make it smaller. >> stand by. he also likes generals too as we have seen in some of his appointments as well. >> well, yes. >>> stick around. i want to alert our viewers. please check out the first-ever book from cnn politics called "unprecedented: the election that changed everything." pick up your copy today in stores, or you can get it online. just go to cnn.com/book. >>> coming up, never-before-seen footage showing russian special operations forces fighting inside syria. what are vladimir putin's troops accomplishing? we'll be right back. there is no typical day. there is nothing typical about making movies. i'm victoria alonso and i'm an executive producer... ...at marvel studios. we are very much hands-on producers. if my office... ...becomes a plane or an airport the surface pro's perfect. fast and portable but also light. you don't do this 14 hours a day, 7 days a week for... ...decades if you don't feel it in your heart. listen, i know my super power is to not ever slee

perry ing name secretary of energy. as we talked about back in 202012 he couldn't remember that's one of the three pa wanted to eliminate. hillary tone goes out last night and says, quote, if wanting to eliminate a department of government qualifies you to run it, she says, quote, in that case, either like to be secretary of white men. it didn't stop there. she went on facebook, she wrote. if wanted to get rid of something qualifies you to run i want to be secretary of white men. hillary tone had a change of tone, at some point, this morning, because she goes back on twitter, she deletes that original tweet and writes an apology. my tweet about white men was in poor state, my apologies. we headed over to dc public school headquarters, big surprise here, they wouldn't talk to his about this, who would talk to us? dc taxpayers. a lot of them had a lot of questions today about how somebody who is on the public payroll speaking for dc schools is still on that payroll when they're tweeting out stuff like this. . >> we're ent

this is rex tillerson, he runs exxonmobil, scott pruitt will lead the epa, rick perry who promised to eliminate the energy department the boss there and his choice for interior secretary, ryan zinke has a 3% environmental record from the league of conservation voters. when you look at all these choices, mr. kennedy, what are your thoughts? >> environmentalists are not happy with those choices. you know, it feels like we kind of cut out the middleman and are

. >>> rick perry is donald trump's nominee to head up the agency department one that he vowed to abolish. perry has questioned the science linking greenhouse emissions to climate change. also a candidate during the primaries he referred to trump as a cancer to conservatism and a barking carnival act. >>> katrina pearson is seeking a position. she met with donald trump tuesday possibly to discuss becoming the white house press secretary. >>> on the agenda, the president-elect meets with top tech names at trump tower. long the silicon valley leaders, apple's tim cook. larry page, held of google company alphabet. also in attendance, amazon's jeff bezos. his combative relationship with trump could cast a shadow on today's meeting. i want to talk about the tech summit with our samuel burke joining us live from london. as you know, some of these tech titans have been either dismissive of the candidacy of donald trump. critical of his positions towards immigration. some of them outright hostile towards him and donald trump has been hostile back. although peter thiel, he's a contrarian, big inve

go ahead, please. >> no, jeffrey could also bring up rick perry, right? rick perry was not a strong supporter of donald trump. said very nasty things. now he's top of the list. >> nikki haley is in the cabinet as the u.n. ambassador. the point is he is going to govern the way he said he intended to govern, he's going to bring people together. this is a good thing, not a bad thing. people like sally, my friend sally, are not going to agree. i get that. we had the election. here in pennsylvania he won. >> yes. i'm going to do exactly what republicans do. let's be clear. people like my friend jeffrey hammered hillary clinton for not giving press conferences when she was just a candidate. he's now president-elect and he not only has not given a press conference in 139 days but he's delaying for a month the one he promised to give. i am pretty confident that if a president-elect hillary clinton said she wasn't going to take intelligence briefings, i mean, the thunder of republican objection and outrage would be deafening. >> that's just not so. >> it was donal

meanwhile, rick perry has been officially chosen to lead the department of energy. the cabinet pick comes on a day when the president-elect holds a meeting with none other than hip-hop star kanye west. we will hear with west uncharacteristically tight lipped. >> mr. trump, what did you guys discuss in the meeting today? >> just friends. just friends. he's a goodman. >> no comment about your meeting with the president-elect. does the president of the united states have nothing to say? >> i just want to take a picture right now. >> we got more details, via west' twitter feed, west posted, i wanted to meet with trump to discuss multi-cultural issue, these issues included bullying, supporting teachers, modernizing criticisms and i feel it is important to have a direct line of communication with our president if we truly want change. trump took time to meet with nfl found jim bound and ray lewis. they point the meeting with west as a clear distraction. the group vote vets quickly fired off this statement, saying, quote, donald trump believes it is more important to meet

and rick perry could head a department he'd just as soon forget. >> i can't. the third one i can't. sorry. oops. >> pelley: also tonight, the final words from a doomed freighter, and angry words from a widow. >> i would have thrown the captain overboard and tried the save myself and the ship. >> pelley: a former pro football player faces criminal charges in an alleged health insurance fraud exposed by cbs news. >> how much are they making? >> oh, millions. >> pelley: and a woman who couldn't get a job is now rolling in dough. >> chocolate chip and money. >> exactly. money, honey. this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> pelley: today president-elect donald trump named the c.e.o. of exxon-mobil, rex tillerson, to be secretary of state. the senior member of the cabinet. tillerson was chosen because he's made successful deals with heads of state all around the world, but those could be ties that bind. tillerson, for example, has a close business relationship with vladimir putin of russia. the lifelong oil man has no government experience, but he did convince exxon to acknow

let me ask you, so rick perry in for the department of energy. club for growth is calling for rick perry to close the doors to the doe. it is one of the places we think he wanted to close when he was talking during the debate although forgot name of it. maybe it is that forgettable. do you think he would take over and shut it down, is that possibility? >> i have three reactions to that, melissa and i can only remember one of them. melissa: that is good. >> nice one. melissa: well-played, guy benson. >> it's a cheap shot. rick perry is very successful former governor. he was elected, three terms in texas. melissa: yep. >> that was a boom state when it came to energy. that is a good pick. i don't think he will show up and shut the whole thing down but maybe whip it into shape and streamline it and bring a totally different mentality to the department of energy than what we have had for the last eight years. i think it is a good pick. he would certainly be a change of pace and in many respects particularly from job creation perspective, a breath of

what stands out most to you, rex tillerson, rick perry, how do you see them playing out? >> well, they are both interesting. rex tillerson, of course, is sort of the more dominant position, it's the u.s. face to the world along with the president of the united states and so he's going to be under a lot of scrutiny about kind of his views on issues around the world as well as as you pointed out earlier his relationship with vladimir putin, the head of russia, no great friend of the united states, that country, and you already have congress people expressing concern about his ties both in joint ventures with companies, exxon mobile which he was part of for four decades and remains part of, having joint ventures with russian companies and great particular financial interest in the country as well. jenna: it's interesting to know that he run it is publicly-traded company in the entire world and stayed with that company from day one and he stayed with the company for more than 40 years. the new editorial board is here with the criticism as a choice. their article entitled flaw

he is meeting with rick perry today, the former texas governor, as well as joe manchin. i'm told rick perry is also one of the top contenders, he's considering him big league, i'm told by one top official. andrea? >> thank you very much. kristen welker at the white house. >>> coming up, cyberwarfare, tracing the intelligence that led american spy agencies to ru interfere with the u.s. election. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc, the place for politics. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... which adds fuel to my bottom line. what's in your wallet? nothseafood celebration.self" like red lobster's holiday so try new dishes like the new grand seafood feast, and the new wild-caught lobster & shrimp trio, with a lobster mac-and-cheese topped lobster tail. come treat yourself to feast fit for the season before it ends. >>> welcome back. joining me now former nato supreme allied c

color="#ffff00">and rick perry could head a department he'd just as soon forget. >> i can't. the third one i can't. sorry. oops. >> pelley: also tonight, the final words from a doomed freighter, and angry words from a widow. >> i would havehr tnow the captain overboard and tried the save myself and the ship. >> pelley: a former pro football player faces criminal charges in an alleged health insurance fraud exposed by cbs news. >> how much are they making? >> oh, millions. >>