calling the acting director of the fbi corrupt, firing the director of the fbi, insisting that the fbi must report directly to the president. raising the prospect that this attorney general was wrong to recuse himself of an fbi investigation into a campaign he was involved in. pressuring to the point where nobody would be surprised if he tried to get rid of that recusal. and now launching this counternarrative that the whole vismt investigation is fruit of a poison treat. that the fbi-russia investigation is itself a russian plot. all of these different attacks all happening simultaneously, all attacking and trying to undermine and discredit the federal bureau of investigation, while they investigate this president. what is the fbi going to do about that? i have just the guy to ask. he's here next. ...it starts a chain reaction... ...that's heard throughout the connected business world. at&t network security helps protect business, from the largest financial markets to the smallest transactions, by sensing cyber-attacks in near real time and automatically deploying countermeasures. kee

>> i would say i think the fbi director and the fbi needs to be -- the fbi and fbi director for all americans including muslim americans and the -- my experience in terrorism investigations has been that some of the best leads we ever got, were from members of that community, from muslim americans. i remember having conversations with that with among others, u.s. attorney from your state, pat fitzgerald, a friend of mine. while certainly we do face threats from certain radical ideologies when turn to violence and it is also true that those americans just like all americans are people we need to get information from to help protect the homeland. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >> congratulations to you and your family on this nomination. i appreciate your willingness to come back in the public service at a time when i think the nation's confidence in its public institutions is -- has been shaken. and i think it's very important to have somebody of your character and background and experience serve as the next fbi director because i think public confidence in the fbi has been shaken over recent eve

the director of the fbi, insisting that the fbi must report directly to the president. raising the prospect that this attorney general was wrong to recuse himself of an fbi investigation into a campaign he was involved in. pressuring him to the point where nobody would be surprised if he tried to get rid of that recusa recusal. and now launching a counter narrative that the whole fbi investigation is fruit of a poisoned true. that the fbi investigation is itself a russian plot. all of these attacking all attacking and trying to undermine and discredit the federal bureau of investigation while they investigate this president. what is if fbi going to do about that? i have just the guy to ask. he's here next. oro. ♪go your own way copd tries to say, "go this way." i say, "i'll go my own way" with anoro. ♪go your own way once-daily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators, that work together to significantly improve lung function all day and all night. anoro is not for asthma . it contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma.

comey at the top of the fbi. we'll be talking about this and watching this hearing all day. senate judiciary committee, you see the camera crews and still photographers and reporters awaiting his arrival at the witness table. kasie hunt is on capitol hill for us, part of our huge group of correspondents and analysts to cover this story today. she will lead us off for this part of our coverage. kasie, set the stakes for everything we'll be seeing today. >> well, brian, i think the stakes really are centered around everything we've been talking about, about donald trump jr., the latest news about his meeting with this russian lawyer, his knowledge that they wanted to talk about hillary clinton, saying that he would love that, and that really sets the stage for the scene here where you're going to have an fbi director nominee who is pressed repeatedly about the president, who of course as we know has been almost in hiding the last couple of days, not holding public events. this is a post where he had asked the previ

at the fbi of the mission. in conclusion, i pledge to be the leader that the fbi deserves and to lead an independent bureau that will make every american proud. thank you, mr. chairman, senator feinstein. i look forward to answering the committee's questions. >> before my first ten minute starts we'll have ten-minute rounds just in case somebody came late and didn't hear what i had said about that. two votes scheduled at 12:30. i asked if she thought we could get done by 12:30 and she said, we hope so, but, obviously, we'll let people go as long on their questions as they want to. but i would ask people to think in terms of people chairing the committee so we don't lose a whole 45 minutes while we're having votes. so, think that in mind. my first series of questions are going to seem maybe very softball and they probably are softball. but i think they're very important to every member of this committee, particularly when they have an administration that says that democrats can't get answers to their questions w

what is the fbi's role? >> well, i think the fbi probably has multiple roles. it has a criminal investigative role when there are ways in which the criminal investigative tools can be used to prevent, detect, disrupt threats. but then it also has an intelligence role, where it partners with our partners in the intelligence community and our overseas partners in trying to defend our systems and our infrastructure from attacks, which is a slightly different kind of role. and the two things work hand-in-hand. and i would think that there's an analogy that could be drawn to the terrorism arena in terms of awareness. i remember listening to a prominent counterterrorism expert in a room full of prosecutors from all around the world. and it was a very jovial meeting until this guy got up and spoke. and he said, there are two types of countries. there are those who have been hit by terrorist attack and get it. and there are those who have not yet. and then you could have heard a pin drop. because it certainly cut a lot of the joy out of the room. and i think there is a

i met with the fbi in minnesota on this issue. they showed me some of the internet targeting that is really designed to focus on people in our state because of the major somali population that we're so proud of in minnesota. and could you elaborate on this threat and what you believe the fbi should be doing to counter these types of online recruiting efforts that are going on around the country? >> well, senator, i think i need to get briefed up on the fbi's efforts in that area, especially the developments and technology. but my basic view is similar to my answer to senator feinstein, which was that we have to get earlier in the continuum to prevent plots. and that is recruitment, that is logistical planning that is fund-raising to your question about financing, there is a whole range of things that terrorist organizations do early on in the continuation. plots don't happen overnight. they take a time to germinate. we need to be in a position where we find them early and stop them early. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> b

he publicly attacks the acting fbi director, having fired the real fbi director. and he attacks the special counsel who is responsible for the russia investigation, and not merely him, but the career and staff level members of his team k. and so,up, under those circumstances i think you really have to ask what is the mechanism by which who is going to defend the integrity of federal law enforcement. it's not going to be the attorney general. it's not really going to be the deputy attorney general. the special counsel can't do it because it would be inappropriate for him to talk about things in public. the acting fbi director is just an acting -- he's been really kour ages and he's been a first-rate individual, but he's just the acting fbi director. so who is it, who is supposed to speak for federal law enforcement and for the integrity of the men and women who carry out our laws every day? >> ben, you're really close with james comey. there was an interesting portion of the new york times interview where it seems like are the president is saying that james comey w

>> i'd say immediately call the fbi. what bothers me probably most about junior's responses that there was no instinct that there was something wrong about this. you don't need to be an authority on federal election law to have an instinct that, wait, there's something wrong with my meeting are russians who may or may not be corrected to the kremlin who are talking about bringing in dirt on mrs. clinton. it's just the wrong instringt. >> robert deets, jennifer rogers. i think we're going to have to lee it there. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> up next, more on today's confirms hearing for president trump's pick to replace fired fbi director james comey. we'll talk to someone who personally knows chris way and get her take on how wray would handle the job. stay tuned. there's nothing more important to me than my vacation. so when i need to book a hotel room, i want someone that makes it easy to find what i want. booking.com gets it. and with their price match, i know i'm getting the best price every time. now i can st

i think the fbi would want to collect that information and pursue that. >> ron hosco, former fbi assistant director. good to see you. >> you too. >> what about jared kushner, the president's son-in-law, under fire for failing to report that meeting under his security clearance forms. he has updated the forms but is that enough. could he lose his clearance? ♪ me to the moon (elegant music) ♪ and let me play (bell rings) for over 100 yearsaking like kraft has,al cheese you learn a lot about people's tastes. honey, what do you want for dinner tonight? oh whatever you're making. triple cheddar stuffed sliders. sold! >>> pump saying he only found out about the secret meeting a couple days ago. so much focus on donald trump jr. >> it became pretty apparent to jared and paul. >> you remember that. >> we were all there. the whole contact too how long? >> about 20 minutes. and he left after five or ten? >> so jared kushner we know was there. why wasn't that disclosed initially and is this a pattern? because each day she chooses to take the stairs. at work, at home... even on the escalator. that

me, for the fbi director job. in the president's words, he was up here, and he wanted the job. after he was named special counsel, i said, what the hell is this all about? talk about conflicts. but he was interviewing for the job. there were many other conflicts that i haven't said, but i will at some point. >> well, that sounds a lot to me like saying that the last director of the fbi should be concerned and hope that there are not tapes, which we later learned there were not tapes. what i can tell you for sure is that the department of justice and the federal bureau of investigation have outstanding ethics officials. they're career officials who know what they're doing. they've put their time in. they're experts, and they take the time to consult with the office of government ethics. so we know a lot about the capabilities of those ethics officers, and i can tell you i am very confident in saying that there are not conflicts of interest going unaddressed by these ethics offices. >> so you're saying in the case o

the fbi director personally reports direct to him. did wray agree to that when he accepted the nomination? surely the senate would want to know that before they voted on whether or not to confirm him, right? apparently not. the day after the president made those remarks to the "new york times," the judiciary committee in the senate voted to approve the nomination of chris wray to lead the fbi. it was a vote of everybody to nobody. it was a unanimous vote to approve him. in the committee. he still needs his full vote in the senate and that is expected to come up quickly. but now wnyc, reporter matt cats who made a national name for himself on his reporting of the chris christie bridge gate scandal, now he has new news about christopher wray and his last big gig before being nominated by president trump to lead the fbi. during the bridgegate scandal where the christie administration in new jersey was accused of shutting down the access to the biggest bridge in the country, three appointees or staffers pled guilty or were convicted. duri

>> i think it would be wise to let the fbi -- >> you're going to be the director of the fbi, pal. i want you to tell every politician if you get a call suggesting that a foreign government wants to help you by disparaging your opponent, tell us all to call the fbi. >> to the members of this committee, any threat or effort to interfere with our elections from any nation state, or any nonstate actor is the kind of thing the fbi would want to know. >> where does ray stand on the russian investigation? the firing of former fbi director james comey and whether all of this is a witch hunt. >> do you believe in light of the don jr. e-mail and other agencies that this is a witch hunt? is it a fair description of what we're all dealing with in america? >> senator, i can't speak to the basis for the comments. my experience with director -- >> i'm asking you as the future fbi director, do you consider this endeavor a witch hunt? >> do you have any doubt that russia interfered with our elections. >> i will tell you have i no reason to doubt the assessment of the intelligence community. >> did

i think we're going to have a great new fbi director. this suggests to me, at least in this written transcript that's just been reported by "the new york times," that the president is suggesting that the fbi and the department of justice be reorganized so that the fbi becomes an executive agency under him. is that what it sounds like to you? >> it's a really troubling thing to say. not surprisingly he has the facts wrong, the history's wrong, the fbi is part of the justice department, that didn't change after watergate. what did change after watergate because of the way the president was meddling in the investigations is the justice department promulgated new rules by which the justice department would not contact the president about ongoing investigations, and the president wouldn't contact the justice department and interfere. it seemed to be those rules that i suspect the president is really pushing back against, and really feels constrained by. it seems -- look, he wanted jim comey to operate as if he operated to him, to be loyal to

i am a big fan of the fbi. i love the fbi. >> were you a fan of him taking the investigation. >> i love the people of the fbi. i think -- about the hillary clinton investigation? >> no, about the russia investigation and possible links between -- >> no, look, let me tell you, as far as i'm concerned i want that thing to be absolutely done properly. when i did this now, i said, i probably maybe will confuse people, maybe i'll expand that -- you know, i'll lengthen the time because it should be over, in my opinion it should have been over a long time ago because all it is is an excuse. but i said to myself, i meet even lengthen out the investigation, but i have to do the right thing for the american people. he's the wrong man for that position. >> let me ask you about your termination letter to mr. comey. you write, "i greatly appreciate you informing me on three separate occasions that i am not under investigation." why did you put that in there? >> because he told me that. i mean he told me that. >> he told you

the confirmation hearing for fbi director the nominee chris wray. the man president trump has chosen to fill this seat left vacant after the firing of james comey. the trump/russian collusion and donald trump jr.'s e-mails showing he was willing to work with russia to help swing the election in his father's favor. here's more with lindsey graham who pushed for his thoughts on the actions of don jr. >> should donald trump jr. have taken that meeting? >> well, senator, i don't -- hearing for first time your description of it so i'm not really in a position to speak to it. >> let me ask you this. if i got a call from someone saying that the russian government wants to help lindsey graham get elected, they have dirt on the opponent, should i take that meeting? >> inyou'd want to consult -- >> i think -- >> if you get a call from somebody suggesting that a foreign government wants to help you, by disparaging your opponent, tell us all to call the fbi. >> to the members of this committee, any threat or effort to interfere with our elections from any natio

then he fired the fbi director. and he's made it clear to putin during a face-to-face meeting that he wasn't going to punish him for what he did. instead, he's discussed parng with him on ieber security matters. specifically surround sg donald trump jr.'s meeting during the campaign paints an equally troubling picture of what happened and perhaps why it happened. in early june, after russian hackers penetrated the dnc and john podesta e-mail accounts but before it was publicly known, he was offered a meeting. he was told it was part of a russian effort to back his father and, quote, incriminate clinton. a mere four hours after the date and time of that meeting was confirmed, mr. trump as candidate is teasing that he's got dirt on his opponent. >> i am going to give a major speech on probably monday of next week and we're going to be discussing all of the things that have taken place with the chin tons. i think you're going to find it very informative and very, very interesting. >> so now we now know that it's two da

that's not how the new fbi director looks at it. the fbi director is not a member of the cabinet, not, you know, not seen as a political figure in today's age. that's what james comey found so uncomfortable about his relationship with president trump because they had several one-on-one conversations that he had never had with president obama when he was operating as the fbi director in the last administration. >> yeah. obviously, chris wray will have the benefit of watching the public demise of jim comey. he's now testified what all the encounters were like and he talked about a former fbi director, bob mueller. i'm going to play a part of the conversation about what he viewed inbounds and out of bounds and drawing some lines around about appropriate scope for the special counsel investigation. >> if mueller is looking at your finances unrelated to russia is that a red line? >> would that be a breach -- >> i would say yeah, i would say yes. i mean it's possible that a condo -- i sell a lot of condo units and somebody from russia who

joining me now is former fbi agents clint watts. the fbi director has never reported to the president of the united states. what do you make of it when you heard donald trump say that? >> he's trying to consolidate his power. and it's pretty sad. he seems to think that every aspect of governance even out to the legislature at times is under his control. what he doesn't understand, is he fbi director, his job is to keep the citizens of this country safe from both crime and national security threats. and so we have to have an independent fbi director. the tradition is he reports to the attorney general. that's the way it will stay moving forward. >> the position was really created by the u.s. attorney general. j. edgar hoover was the fbi director, he didn't report to the president. we are in a unique situation historically. you've already had donald trump fire an fbi director. how difficult is it going to be for christopher wray to be an independent actor knowing that is the propensity of the president? >> when the biggest qualificati

but if i were in the fbi i'd be talking to him too. >> robert anderson assistant director of the fbi oversaw the bureau's cyber informations worldwide. >> how frequently and in what context did kaspersky cross your desk. >> you have to look at it potentially as a collection of russia. the one thing i think you should look to is look back at eugene kaspersky. >> tell me about yourself. i understand you were interested in math at an early age. >> typical soviet family, my ther was engineer and mother working in archives. poor here in the soviet union. >> and at age 16 you went to a kgb run school for technical whiz kids. >> what was that school like. >> math math math math math. from time to time, once a year, machine gun. >> he told us that yes, he went to this kgb school but it was lots of math and a little machine gun. >> that would be like me telling you i went to the fbi academy, don't worry about it, i went to the cia academy. don't worry about it. you don't get into a kgb school by accident. it's one of the most ruthless cut throat intelligence organizations on this planet. for

and we think the fbi, as well. when they try to make that dossier into the basis of the whole case against donald trump and try to link the whole fbi investigation to that dossier, where they are going with that is to try to undermine, to try to cast aspersions on the fbi investigation of the trump/russia affair, which continues to this day, by casting aspersions on its origins. chuck grassley, who is the senator who's the chair of the senate judiciary committee, has been sort of the leader in -- among republican members of congress on that subject. and he's the one who's signaling most strongly that he would like this to be the counternarrative in this story. so, watch for that. watch for that in particular tomorrow, at the christopher ray confirmation hearing, which will be chaired by chuck grassley. the christopher ray confirmation hearing is not supposed to be about the russia scandal, but it will now have to be substantially about the russia scandal. because the magnitude of that scandal now and because of the

plus -- >> the future fbi director, do you consider this endeavor a witch hunt? >> i do not consider director mueller to be on a witch hunt. >> fbi director nominee christopher ray breaks with the president over the russia probe. he has gained bipartisan support. >>> plus, a grim discovery in pennsylvania. human remains were found in the search for four young men who disappeared last week. >>> good morning. it's thursday, july 13th. amidst fall-out from his son's meeting with a russian lawyer in an effort to gain opposition research on hillary clinton, president trump is today in france. french president emmanuel macron personally invited him to attend bastille day festivities in paris. soon the president and first lady will head to a short ceremony and tour before traveling to a palace for a meeting with macron. trump and macron will also hold a joint news conference. joining us live now from paris, northbound news chief white house correspondent halle jackson. good to have you with us. we've been talking a lot about this trip anticipation. president trump extre

my loyalty is to the constitution, to the rule of law and to the mission of the fbi. and no one asked me for any kind of loyalty oath at any point during this process and i sure as heck didn't offer one. >> and from what you told me yesterday, you would not give one if asked. >> correct. >> if the president asked you to do something unethical, what do you say? >> first i would try talk him out of it. if that failed, i would resign. >> whoa! i'm joined by senator chris kuhns. i was impressed. you were there. what do you think of this guy? >> well, i was impressed as well. as i said at my opening statement in christopher wray's confirmation hearing. he had two challenges. first he needed to persuade us that he had the skills, the management capabilities, to be a good filibuster director. but given this pittal moment in politics, he had to persuade that he has the i understand and that he understands how important it is to restore confidence in the fbi and to protect the ongoing investigation being led by bob mueller. i think he met both those tests. >> what would you do

>> i think it would be wise to let the fbi. >> the director of the fbi, pal. so here's what i want you to tell every politician. if you get a call from somebody suggesting that a foreign government wants to help you by disparaging your opponent, tell us all to call the fbi. >> that was republican lindsey graham, republican paul ryan on the other hand, was reduced to jell-o today. when kasie hunt asked him what he would do if the russians wanted to help his re-election campaign. >> i'm not going to go moo hypotheticals only because i think it's important we get to the bottom of all of this. i supported bob mule ter being appointed special counsel. we need to let him and his team and our investigators here do their jobs and follow these leads whfr they may go and follow the facts. >> i'm not going to go into hypotheticals. paul ryan could not say what he would do if the russians or any other foreign government wanted to help his re-election campaign. he could not say that he would not commit that crime. that is how lost the speaker of the house has become as he

he talked about the fbi and talked it's historical anomaly or inappropriate that the fbi director director reports up the chain. he said the fbi director should report directly to him as president. he said i think we're going to have a new good fbi director immediately after that. and that fbi director was commissioned by the senate committee today. and he was explaining why the fbi director should report directly to him. was he correct in what he was saying? >> no, he was not. i found his suggestion of an fbi director working directly for the president, reporting to him. that is absolutely blood chilling. the history of the fbi, j. edgar hoover from 1924 to 1972 when he died. it's the example of an fbi director who behaved badly and did bad things for presidents, presidents from roosevelt to nixon asked hoover to investigate their enemies and harass them, in politics to harass senators who gave them trouble, harass journalists who wrote or said bad things from them. that's what we've been trying to get away from since 1972 and that was the purpose of a ten-year term. he's suggesting turni

how about send it to the fbi. >> you don't send it to the fbi. >> really? >> when the book was delivered to al gore's campaign he called the fbi. >> reporter: you don't know they didn't talk to their campaign's lawyers first, i suspect that's exactly what they did. i don't suspect this guy on his own who received the book said i'm going immediately to the fbi. i suspect he spoke to the campaign's lawyers, which any smart person should do. >> you are saying don is not smart. >> he is not sophisticated in this stuff. >> what about jared kushner? >> i don't know what jared knew or didn't know. that's why it's important for this to get out. i think everybody has got to get the information right of who met with who, and about what, and get the information out there. i am confident from speaking to the president that the president didn't authorize any collusion, didn't know about any collusion and i don't know that any collusion ever happened. >> do you think he should stand in the east room and continue to bellow at the top of his lungs that there was no collusi

we don't know specifically what the fbi knew about her. with you we also know that -- but we also know that robert mueller the special counsel himself did not know a lot about this meeting. and he himself will be diving into this and trying to figure out what went on there. this speaks to a larger point about this investigation, is that there will be things like this that come up and you pull on the threads and they turn into larger things. and it forces mueller to go look at them. some people have said, mueller will be able to get to the bottom of this in a year. but as we move forward here, there's just more and more questions and more things that have to be looked into. mueller is going to be painstaking in how he does that. so my guess, this thing will drag longer than we think. >> one of the things one never wants to hear is what michael just said about mueller. orks -- oh, mueller will be diving into this. >> yeah, he will be. you know what he is staffing up. he has a lot of lawyers working on his team now. there is no sign this is g

according to the fbi. she was only one of the six who had both access the document and been in touch with the intercept. then they go down a second line of approach. the agent said in this criminal complaint that there is a crease, like you get a crease from folding something, there is a crease visually evident on the document itself. that was a clue to the fbi that ever took this document off the nsa had printed it. it printed the page and folded it and carried it out of the nsa office by hand. and then there was another clue, and this is where the story gets a little bit crazy, most color printers, maybe even all of this, i don't know, they apparently leave behind when they print, when they print out a piece of paper from a computer, right, when they print, they leave behind a finger print on every sheet that they print out. you know how an old school detective stories they do forensic analysis of individual type writers who figure out which typewriter typed out the ransom note. that is for computer prin

he told them overtly, that yes, he fired the fbi director because of the fbi investigation. and that firing the fbi director gave him hope that he would be relieved of that pressure from that investigation. that's what happened the last time this president met with russian officials. also, remember, he got played, too. remember for that meeting the white house refused to let any american media in to the oval office to cover that meeting. but trump did let the russians persuade him to allow the russians to bring in their own official russian photographer, with his own equipment, into the oval office. after which they admitted they had no idea that photographer also worked for a russian news agency and would publish all of the photos. a white house official told the "washington post" thereafter, quote, we were not informed by the russians that their official photographer was dual headed and releasing the photographs on the state news agency. jim acosta got a white house official to speak much more bluntly on the subject. this was his tweet. quote, white house furious over russ

and in the criminal complaint, the fbi agent named in the complaint lays out how the fbi investigation into this leak proceeded. they have this list of like a half dozen people who they know have accessed this document. they go down that list looking for someone who has accessed the document who also appears to have been in touch with this news organization, with the intercept. by that process they quickly narrow it down to one nsa contractor working in the state of georgia, a contractor named reality lee winter. according to the fbi she was the only one of the six who had both accessed the document and been in touch with the intercept. then they go down a second line of approach. the agent says in this criminal complaint that there's a crease, like you get a crease from folding something. there's a crease that is visually evident on the document itself that was a clue to the fbi that whoever took this document off of the nsa had printed it, had printed the panel and folded it and carried it out of the nsa office by hand. and then there was another clue -- and this is where the story g

he didn't report it to the fbi. he attended. and then we also know that he attempted to set up this very mysterious communications channel with the kremlin in the transition period. and we know that from intercepts from the russian ambassador, ambassador kislyak to the kremlin. and what the purpose of that is still very unclear, but james comey made some remarks about it, which also had people thinking that maybe this didn't involve trips to russian diplomatic centers but actually involved mobile communications gear that jared was trying to obtain. >> let me ask you this. i want to ask you my control room to put up the statement, first of all. done junior had said the other day i asked jared and paul to taepd p but told them nothing of the substance. he said this on sunday in a statement to the press. but then he released the e-mails, and when you read the e-mail, the subject line says, forward, russia, clinton, private and confidential. >> and of course, everything previous in e-mails was included too. >> yeah. it's not plausib

you cannot fire the fbi. and that's a bad enemy to have just as he's found the intel community -- >> you don't think he already has an enemy? >> it's amazing. joe? >> i mean, we're talking again. we always try and talk about the need to keep things in proper context. him talking about firing let's say reince priebus who he's been shopping that around for four or five months calling people saying should i fire reince priebus. that's one thing. what he does inside the white house, sean spicer, that's one thing. but when you go, mika, to firing fbi directors because of a russia investigation, when you fire james comey and tell the russians you fired him to end the investigation, when your white house spokesperson says the president wanted to end the russian investigation so he fired james comey, and when you start talking about firing somebody that got us through 9/11 as fbi director, robert mueller, that is when you go a bridge too far, even for these republicans. it's just -- it's something that if he does it,

some of which the former fbi director has admitted to leaking to the press. welcome, congressman desantis, thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> that was an extraordinary interview you gave. in it you said four things, former fbi director comey has to be investigated by the department of justice, that they have to subpoena his memos of conversations with president trump, that former national security deputy adviser ben rhodes needs to be investigated and every remaining holdover from the obama years at the nsc should be fired. that's a lot for one interview, congressman. what triggered that? >> well, the reports of comey's memos potentially containing classified information were very concerning to me. i don't know if they did. i think we need to find that out. comey himself under oath, incredibly he admitted he leaked these memos in order to trigger a special counsel against the president. it was really weaponized leaking. if he was willing to disclose or was careless with classified information, i think that's very, very important. i thoug

if which he says the president asked him to back off the fbi investigation of former national security adviser mike flynn. last night it was the appointsment of a social counsel to take over the trump-russia investigation. now it's the fourth day of the week and so now we've got a new one. tonight's scoop comes courtesy of michael schmitt at the "the new york times," a sorry that he's broken tonight. the front page of the "the new york times" website, in addition to the alleged direct pressure on bithe president on director comey, apparently the president called the fbi director and pressured him to put out public word about trump not personally being under investigation. nbc reports tonight that jared kushner is under scrutiny in the trump-russia investigation. those officials saying that jared kushner is a person of interest. >> well kochl back to another friday night of what seems like extraordinary news from the trump-russia inquiry beginning with robert mueller taking over the grand jury inquiry in the lobbies that flynn did for turkey without registering as an agent of the foreig

saturday, june 3rd, the fbi interviews and arrests reality winner, this nsa contractor. she has not -- she has been in jail since saturday, june 3rd. the intercept published they are story around 4:00 p.m. monday, june 5th. the foshlged document that we got sent to us appears to have been created in that narrow window of time between those two events. after reality winner got arrested and before the intercept published the document with its identifiable printer dots and the crease in the paper that appear to have been lifted off that same document that the intercept published. they were working from a document that was not yet publicly available. they would have started creating that file or they would have started that file after reality winner's arrest and before the intercept published it to everyone. then sent it to us two days later. from what we can see from the metadata, we believe this is the timeline. now, is the timeline a clue as to who contacted us and sent us this document? we don't know. maybe the metadata itself has been faked or is wrong in some way. i do

he spent his entire career in the fbi and has no known political affiliation. and of course we come the jeff sessions. he was famously the very first senator to endorse trump and became a key member of his campaign. these are the people who the president is bullying and attacking and they have one thing in common and only one thing really, other than they might literally all be republicans, is that they're all tied to the russia investigation. have in turn all had their integrity questioned by the president. sessions of course, is no longer actively involved in the investigation, having recused himself in march from mueller's appointment which is precisely why the president is so furious at it. >> he should not have recused himself. if he was going on recuse himself he should have told me prior to taking office and i would have quite sill reply picked somebody else. >> only the president knows whether the political damage from trying on kill the russia investigation would be worse than what that investigation might discover. no question he is trying under99 cre

the fbi was reportedly blindsided by the president's pick to lead the fbi after leaving so much of his senior staff out of the loop. the u.s. military was caught off guard when the white house warned the syrian regime against carrying out plans, chemical weapons attack, defense officials said they had no idea the white house was planning a statement. and the department hoff homeland security was surprised by the president's travel ban. according to "new york times," secretary kelly looked up at a tv and saw the president signing the executive order that he was discussing at the very moment. kelly says, he had seen earlier drafts of the proposal. but again, sir richard haase, aside from the fact that there are those in political circles, analysts who were saying the transgender tweets were to distract from sessions, session' tweets attacking the auditor general, questioned by intel committee about the russian meetings and other ongoings that he doesn't remember and donald trump, jr., his own son's organizing of that meeting with russia, which, of course, are center stage to the russia i

that's what the fbi did. mr. trump pointed to the cia and podesta and it is absolutely wrong. >> you made a comment about treason. let me play it here and get you to explain it on the other side. >> people do not realize until it gets to be too late. >> with various stories and new this morning about and i think the trump campaign response especialliy did not know this russian background that it is unwitting. is that what you are referring to. is it meeting like that of the information that your folks collected tat the cia that raiss your suspicion? >> they are capable and aggressive intelligence services. they'll do whatever they can to get information they need in their view for their national security. they'll interact with people and frequently play people and a lot o f time people who are interacting russians and other russians are being exploited for russian intelligence purposes. again, the process of committing treasons in one country takes place place. >> if you see that there is somebody that could be c

i think we're going to have a great new fbi director. does he think that the -- do you think, ari, the president here is saying, i think that fbi director should be reporting to me because it sounds like whether we're talking about judges, congressman or the fbi, the president believes everyone should be reporting directly to him? >> i think that's right. i think you can take the history lesson with the self-interested grain of salt. which is not unique to this president. many presidents look through history to find things that support what we're doing. >> we all do. >> all of us, sure, not just presidents. >> presidents are jt le this us. but the deeper point, right, is whether is this is a predicate for him to interfere and meddle in the investigation further or use personnel changes to affect the outcome of the investigation. you are allowed to fire the fbi director under law for right reasons or for no reason but you cannot fire them for the wrong reason and that is one of the things that we are hearing that mueller will look at. ult