humanly possible to kick the republican house speaker john boehner out of his job. in fact, john boehner did leave his job as house speaker. that's what the mercer family had bannon using breitbart to do before they took him away from breitbart and sent him over to the trump campaign and the trump administration. now that he is done with the administration and back at breitbart as of tonight, is he going back to that war he was waging on the republican party, or is there some new idea? what happens with the secretive billionaire mercer family as a factor now, now that they're back to paying steve bannon's salary instead of us taxpayers? joining us now is jane mayer. her article earlier this year, the reclusive hedge fund tycoon behind the trump presidency. it was just an incredible piece of reporting that i'm sure puts you on the mercer family christmas list forever. jane, thank you very much for being with us tonight. i really appreciate your time. >> glad to be with you. >> from what you understand about the mercer family and their intentions why they funded trump to the degree that th

long timing building. >> rose: obama and boehner could never reach a grand bargain. >> that's right. and the biggest thing we need to do by far is reach the big bargain on spending and revenue. we had the simpson-bolls commission come forward. we have to do some semblance of that. we know the basic contours of what that will look like. but given the way the parties have driven apart, it's almost impossible to see when one party, republican now with control over both chambers and the white house, or if the democrats were in control of all three, there's no way that party will take the political risk because the other party simply won't help. they'll think, "let them bear the risk, and bear the brunt in the middle term elections." midterm elections are never more than two years away. >> rose: graham windham is one of the oldest private orphanages in the country. recently it has benefitted from the success of the hit musical "hamilton." there's even a reference to it in the play. it was founded in 1806 by eliza hamilton. i spoke with jeffrey seller and luis a. miranda jr. >> in 2006, i

for john boehner. who is more popular in the senate with those 52 republicans than mitch mcconnell? >> no one. making these attacks and doubling down on them are dumb and dumber. there is no conceivable alternative to senator mcconnell in the senate among the republicans and there is no way you can enact any portion of the trump agenda without going through senator mcconnell in the united states' senate. >> i'm trying to figure out the strategy here of escalating his attacks on the republican leader. >> i can't see any strategy. i think this is an expression of frustration. it's an expression of someone who does not have a lot of experience governing. or people around him do not have a lot of experience governing. there is no rational strategy by which this makes any sense. >> there ought to be a legislative advisor inside the white house, a legislative strategy group. >> there are terrific legislative advisors inside the white house, apparently the president is not listening to them. >> and no one has told him that nothing, nothing gets on the floor without mitch mcconnell. >> i t

geoff at the table with me here today, former spokesman to john boehner, michael steele. and donna edwards from the brennan center for justice. and jeremy peters, "new york times" reporter and the msnbc contributor. so jeremy, i saw you reacting to what ashley was talking about just then so please share your thoughts. >> yeah, it's kind of hard not to. i'm just glad the camera didn't catch it, but i do think -- its must be "vanity fair," right? because the editor of "vanity fair" and president trump have a long standing fight and there was the fight about how jared kushner and ivanka trump have very little clout within the administration right now. and the piece basically said, why don't you leave washington, you're not doing anybody any good. >> what does his tweeting say about the context of harvey? >> he has no attention span. i think it shows -- in a moment when the nation needs a unifying figure, a leader who is capable of showing empathy, donald trump has shown himself to be anything but that person. >> your colleague at "the new york times" glenn thrush wrote about kind of a

did everything humanly possible to kick the republican house speaker john boehner out of his job and john boehner did leave his job as house speaker. and at the time steve bannon got picked to run the trump campaign, he was doing everything possible to unseat next republican house speaker paul ryan. the one who is still there despite steve bannon's best efforts. that's what the mercer family had bannon using breitbart to do. before they took them away from breitbart and sent him over to the trump campaign and trump administration. now that he's done with the administration and back at breitbart as to have night, is he going back to that war he was waging on the republican party? or is there some new idea? what happens with the secretive billionaire mercer family as a factor now, now that they're back to paying steve bannon's salary instead of us taxpayers? joining us is jane mayor, staff writer for the new yorker. "the reclusive hedge-funneled tycoon behind the trump presidency" was an incredible piece of reporting that i'm sure put you on the mercer family christmas list forever. ja

boehner was in charge they're not going to do it now the president trumps in the white house so i think the clean bill itself is probably not ever going to happen i think that's for much off the table so i think now republicans have to figure out like i just said what angle they're going to take and i think the bigger question is what is president trump going to do and what are his priorities on the campaign trail where does he want to cut. i mean there are probably won't be any new revenue increases so it's going to be a balancing act and wolf to see where does the responsibility lie when it comes to the white house wanting one thing congress wanting another it seems pretty ludicrous at this point that you have a republican white house republican held house and republican held senate and you can't get on the same page to get anything done so if the white house is saying we want one thing where do the republican leaders from congress come together and say let's make this happen where's the holdup shirt so i think i really think you'll see paul ryan and mitch mcconnell try to work togeth

president obama was in the white house and speaker boehner was in charge of then also do it now the president trumps in the white house so i think the clean bill itself is probably not ever going to happen i think that so much off the table so i think now republicans have to figure out like i just said what angle they're going to take and i think the bigger question is what is president from going to do and what are his priorities from the campaign trail where does he want to cut and i'm also assuming there probably won't be any new revenue increases so it's going to be a balancing act and we'll watch to see where does the responsibility lie when it comes to the white house wanting one thing. the national weather service sterling virginia has issued a special memory warning for patapsco river including baltimore harbor until six fifty pm it were forty six pm strong thunderstorms were ok to along the line extending from sixteen nautical miles west of back river to eight nautical miles west of fort smallwood state park moving northeast at twenty knots hazard wind gusts thirty four kno

pictures research in english but if you search google's boehner they don't do social justice you get bell and edison and einstein. with these notes named minor people. >> and now we don't want to hear any more. with the computer give me a break. in gerrymandering is terrifying. >> sometimes you are terrifying. and always provocative. in a very successful mir times best selling author and congratulations on making a difference. >> really appreciate it. even if they carry on until they drop dead. >> please do.

. the majority of republicans don't like mcconnell. i think mcconnell is john boehner 2.0. he is probably the next to go. he cannot lead on the issues that the american people elected donald trump to do. if it's personal and he is not leading because he doesn't like the president, that tells me just how amateur he is at his job. if you know the american people put you there to do certain things -- >> the president is attacking -- >> get over the fact you don't like the president. >> he is attacking republican senators, two incumbent -- >> be the bigger man. >> the president -- >> hold on. >> mitch mcconnell -- >> guys, we're out of time. three words, matt. >> he is attacking -- this is more than three. the president is attacking two incumbent republican senators. >> who didn't do their job. >> we will leave it right there. we have to go to break. wow. a lot to discuss. interesting debates. it goes to show the discussion the president really has started. thank you. >>> pardon me, the president says the controversial former sheriff will be just fine. new reaction from the new sheri

strike up a friendship with john boehner. to your point, about going to these after work functions, you have a young son. you mention friendships you struck up and you would be at these functions and even though they are young, they were able to show restraint and you weren't.straint an you talk about how balance has always been something difficult for you.u. what started happening to you in the days eating up to your arrest. >> i became an insane person. i had a lot of personal stuff that i went through including the perfect death of my mother. i started a business and i don'i did all these things but it was undoubtedly a lot of pressure. >> the death of your mother. >> she died on my wedding reception floor. she choked on a piece of steak. it was a terrible accident. we can get into some of these, you need to read the book. while i, i have been through a lot of things.s. i believe we all handle i grieving and loss in different ways. for me, one of the ways is i just try to have a sense of humor. just looking at politics today, if you don't have a sense of humor, you will have a heart

-- >> charlie: everything we've talked about is pre-trump and pre-2016 election. obama and boehner could never reach a bargain. >> what bothers me most the biggest thing we need to do is reach the grand bargain on spending. we have the simpson-bowles for a cut in spending for revenue and we have to do a semblance of that. we know the basic contours of what that will look like but given the way the parties have driven apart it's almost impossible to see when one party republican now with control over both chambers in the white house or if the democrats were in control of all three there's no way that party will take the political risk because the other party simply won't help. they say let them bear the risk and brunt. midterm elections are never more than two years away and it just really makes it difficult to see how we tackle the big things. i mentioned in the chapter when general mattis was asked what concerns you most. people expected him to talk about the nuclear threat in iran or north korea and he said basically dysfunction in washington. the lack of basic civility. >> charl

to that. that was a great. -- that was a great blueprint. speaker boehner was told by his folks, you want to embrace that, count us out. that never really happened. something like that is something we actually do need. you,: great to speak with senator tom carper joining us from capitol hill this afternoon. the trump administration is gearing up to investigate china over violations of intellectual property law. i will talk about what's at stake in this dispute. this is bloomberg. ♪ david: welcome back to bloomberg markets: the trump economy. american airline shares are down more than 1% adding to a month-long retreat that has left shares 7.5% below last month high. stocks me is bloomberg's reporter. this might have a little to do with cutter airways -- qatar airways announcing it is pulling back. >> that would put it on the level of warren buffett and berkshire hathaway. effect but an ultimately this is a ceo who said they didn't want anything to do with this. investors might disagree because the stock is down. there's also a general malaise within the airline industry on how to ex

helped drive out house speaker john boehner. unless you are part of a very small subset of hard right ,epublican members of congress if you had any experience with steve bannon and breitbart, it was highly negative and it was clear that bannon gtmo is to be more outrageous and more extreme and aggressive than any mainstream political consultant would be. there was a fear that bannon, and his eagerness to blow up the presidential race would end up blowing up the republican party. and inhe president won response to your book, almost, tweets out. he has also said he was his own strategist. host: i think i will use that as a book blurb on the back of the paperback. everyone knows trump does not like having a costar. bannon's worse experience so far in the administration came in february after time magazine famously ran a cover of bannon's face and the headline the great manipulator. that quotehis belief unquote, president bannon was really the guy in charge and it sort of rubbed president trump the wrong way. now he has worked his way back into the inner circle, but i think the fact that

ofl seen speaker boehner. moree going to reach loudly to find a center. you're not owing to be speaker for very long. you're not going to find the right kind of operation to pull it all together in the house. i doubt very much if you had a president jeb -- who would look at this in a different way, you would find that common ground. seeing as what we are lamar alexander is moving toward trying to create some regular order in the senate. they might able to come up with things people would see as a reasonable balance. maybe they will get the one year just to keep this going to stabilize insurance market. whatever they are able to come up with, i don't see it working in the house the way the house is now cost. -- constituted. like question.ll i've and impressed with your reporting. ion -- always keeping an , my sense of having been in the appreciation for procedure is relatively new. i am sort of curious about whether the way you have to convince editors important and muchou go about our on how should pay attention to this or is this something you don't want to know about? readers

. conservatives and radicals. they you decide that and all have seen the fate of boehner that you're going to reach more broadly to going center, you're not to be speaker for very long and ou can make that work as a majority leader in the senate but you're not going to find the right cooperation to pull it all in the house and i doubt very much if you had, say, a president jeb bush who would look at this perhaps in a different way that you would to find that kind of common ground and now i do we're seeing as lamar alexander is moving create some g to semblance of regular order in the senate and they might be able to come up with the kinds us would that all of see as a reasonable balance. able tolays going to be get the one year just to keep his going to stabilize insurance markets but whatever they're able to come up with, i just don't see it working in the way the house is now constituted. >> this is for sarah and richard. questionou'll like the but we'll see. both of yourressed reporting that you're keeping an constraintstutional having been in that gton long enough is this appreciation for

seen the fate of speaker boehner, that you're going to reach more broadly to find a center, you're not going to be speaker for very long and you can make that work as a majority leader in the senate, but you're not going to find the right cooperation to pull it together in the house. and i doubt very much if you had, say, a president bush, who would look at this perhaps in a different way, that you'd still be able to find that kind of common ground. and now, i do think that what we're seeing as lamar alexander is moving towards trying it create some semblance of regular order in the senate and they might be able to come up with the kinds of things that all of us would see as a reasonable balance. maybe they're going to be able to get the one year just to get this going to stabilize insurance markets, but whatever they're able to come up with, i just don't see it working in the house the way the house is now constituted. >> this is for sara and richard, i think you'll like the question, we'll see. so i have been impressed by your reporting that you're keeping an eye on constitutional co

, it's conservatives and radicals. and if you decide that and they the fate ofn speaker boehner, that you're reach more broadly to find a center, you're not going to be speaker for very long, and can make that work as a majority leader in the senate, but you're not going to find the right kind of cooperation to pull it all together in the house. doubt very much if you had say a president jeb bush, who this perhaps in a different way, that you would still be able to find that kind ground.n and now, i do think that what as lamar alexander towards trying to create some semblance of regular order in the senate and they to come up with things that all of us would see as a reasonable balance, maybe they're going to be able to get to keep thisjust going to stabilize insurance markets, but whatever they're up with, i just don't see it working in the house the way the house is now constituted. for sarah and richard. i think you'll like the see.ion, but we'll so i have been impressed that keeping an eye on institutional constraints that are affecting policy decisions. my sense, having been in n

billion, had a lot of things added to it, at the time stuck in the craw of john boehner, speaker at the time, who was concerned what they were doing pouring a lot of needless spending in order to get this through on the backs of sandy. it enraged new jersey governor chris christie who was looking for relief from his state. he criticized the speaker by name. that is then. this is now. not quite the same amount of grief on both sides as was the case back then. but again, some fear in this environment that using this as the catalyst, and maybe some say the excuse, will see a lot more spending going on. that does not appear to be the case for now but that was certainly the case with sandy back in 2012. in the meantime this issue whether you're covered or not what is happening right now, via mother nature is an issue topic one for, certainly for a lot of these texas homeowners. only one offy which have some coverage for flood insurance. but even that, as i came to find out talking to a houston resident yesterday, doesn't cover nearly everything. take a look. when were you told you would

speak from the time since speaker boehner took over. we have done nothing but liberalize access in the capitol. there is more access today than there ever has been. there is more information flow than there ever has been. the capitol is one of the places where it works very well. most members of congress get along very well with the press on capitol hill. most good reporters do not find it hard to get information on capitol hill. very little is a secret, and we like it that way. we think that is an important part of what we do, an important part of the culture. there are reporters everywhere, and we would not want it any other way. it is part of the lifeblood of what we do. we in the speaker's office do everything to accommodate that. i am sorry if some reporters are not able to get what they want all the time but it is hardly , for lack of access. in one of my old jobs i worked for speaker boehner and my job was to deal with the white house press, reporters who covered president obama. anybody who has covered the white house, even in the obama years, would tell you covering capito

people agree washington is a problem. gridlock between john boehner and barack obama. has do we deal with that? whatt we are up against -- we are up against is significant. charlie: they watch what says what they believe. >> if all you do is watch fox news, all you see is one thing. then you have gerrymandering and voter suppression. these are huge problems for our democracy. and then campaign finance. i will give you an optimistic take on this, which is i don't see washington dramatically changing overnight given that combination of forces. but the policy innovation that has real-world impact we are seeing at the state and local level is dramatic. donald trump just pulled out of the paris climate achievement -- agreement. we are likely to hit our goals because even republican governors are recognizing -- charlie: and corporate america. >> and corporate america has fully bought into it. the decisions they are making will drive policy to a greater extent. i believe the nature of problems in the 21st century requires network solutions. and the united states is best situated to lead in

had bloomed a $60 billion plus. john boehner was among those at the time concerned that people were throwing a lot of other things into this that had nothing to do with the aid that you wanted. what you make of that? >> they had control of that first of all. secondly, a lot of it went into the national flood insurance plan. there is nothing else involved in that. people had already paid for it. so a lot of that is disingenuous and political rewriting. what matters is not rehashing that argument but what matters is to say listen, people waited over 65 days for federal relief aid to be voted up by congress in sandy. six times the amount of time they waited after hurricane andrew and even more than they waited ten times more than they waited for hurricane katrina. you should see we are getting worse worse over time. these things are getting more politicized. the desk back disaster should should not be politicized. it's about getting their lives rebuilt and i can tell you from knowing so many people in new jersey in the new york area who were devastated by sandy, they don't want to hear

the g.o.p. now with: michael steel. he was press secretary for former house speaker john boehner. he's now a political consultant. and brian mcguire. he served as chief of staff for senate majority leader mitch mcconnell from 2014 to may of this year. he's now a lobbyist. welcome to both of you. we appreciate your coming. michael steele, how serious do you think this split is between the president and republican leaders? >> well, i think you have the look at it differently than almost anything we've seen in american history. president trump is unique. he's the first american president who nerve served in elected office or in high military office. so we shouldn't expect his relations with congressional leaders to be the norm. that having been said, these attacks, this tension is stupid. it is counterproductive. it doesn't help get big things done for the american people. so at this point i know congressional leaders are continuing to work, to do the hard work on things like tax reform and infrastructure to get those things done. the president right now simply isn't helping. >> woo

boehner, on the other hand barack obama. how do we deal with that? >> what we are up against is severe. people living in alternative universes in terms of media they consume. charlie: they only watch what they believe? >> and they don't see the same thing happening. if you only watch fox or msnbc -- then you have gerrymandering and voter suppression. these are huge. campaign finance. i will give you an optimistic take on this -- i don't see washington dramatically changing overnight given that combination of forces arrayed against it. the policy innovation that has real-world impact that we are seeing at the state and local level is dramatic. donald trump just pulled out of the paris agreement. we are likely to hit those goals anyway because republican governors in a lot of states are recognizing clean energy future. corporate america has bought into it. the investment decisions they are making will drive policy to a greater extent than what scott pruitt does at the epa. i believe the nature of problems in the 21st century requires network solutions and the united states is situated to

, on the one hand, john boehner and on the other hand barack obama. how do we deal with that? >> first of all, what we're up against is really severe. you've got people living in alternative universes in terms of the media they consume. >> rose: right. they watch what says they believe. >> and they don't even see the same country. they don't see the same thing happening. if all you did was fox news, you think one thing. if you watch nbc, another. then you have the gerrymandering and voter suppression problem and huge democracy and campaign finance. but i don't see washington changing overnight but the policy innovation that has real-world impact that we are seeing at the state and local level is dramatic. donald trump just pulled out of the paris climate agreement. we are likely to hit our paris climate goals anyway because even republican governors in a lot of states are recognizing -- >> rose: and corporate america. >> -- and corporate america fully bought into it and the investments they're making are going to drive policy more than what scott pruitt does at the e.p.a. i believe the

met henry wax man. go ahead and tell me how you think your old boss, john boehner, really feels when he watches trump rail against republicans who have largely had his back for the did he tackle that volleyball the first six months of his presidency. >> attacking michl is the most gob smacking stupid thing the president has done yet and that's saying quite a bit. if he's going to get anything done, he's going to get help from republicans on the whil. plus his accomplishment list to date is supreme court justice gorsuch. and that was mitch mcconnell. >> it shows a tremendous ignorance of how the process works as snosh mcconnell said. a good example is when he talked about he single-handedly upgraded our nuclear arsenal and we all know it hasn't been done. >> and b., obama starred it. he's here because he's on book tour. just some closing thoughts about the president as tactics, his use of twitter to attack republicans. >> first, there's a whole parted of the book where i talk about what it means to be a strong person, right. and i think donald trump has a weak person's idea of what be

with you. we had speaker boehner a couple years ago. he was asked, why don't you tell the president to stop pushing this birther thing, the president of the united states at that time, is not a foreign here snuck into the country. he said as follows. i'm not going to tell people what to think. isn't that the goal of leadership, to tell people what to think? why don't they say, trump is wrong. it seems to me, they should be standing and saying, whatever trump thinks personally, we're the party of lincoln and we don't stand for this and nobody is doing it. >> speaker ryan put out a very strong comment. mike pence put out a very strong statement. the president false into this terrible trap of talking about things like monuments and statues. the purpose is clarity of message. and it is disappointing they even put him in that position. a lot of people say he's playing to the base. that's a very judgmental statement as well about the base. the base is a lot of democrats too. i think it is disappointing that we're not all united. >> you're not happy about it. two people are happy. one is d

repudiated. when the house majority leader at the time, john boehner, claimed the president never worked a real job, knowing repudiated it. when newt gingrich called the president of the united states a foodstamp president, no one repudiated it. so you found yourself in a situation in the toy 16 election where all of that hate and all stoked theism party's base. the idea that president trump for the donald trump with them become president, that he would become the winning candidate does not surprise me at all. and that trump himself, the stoker of birther is him, who has this long history of racism himself, went back to the 1970's when he was accused of housing discrimination, into the 1990's when he called for the death penalty for the central park five who were later exonerated, in the 1990's when he claimed he did not want black people counting his money at his that that person, that figure, that political figure would then use that same energy that was in the party to become president, and the reaction would be violent, is predictable. it is lamentable, but deutsche be surprised. juan:

-- what if you called an uber, got in, and this guy was behind the wheel. no, not john boehner. although that would be amazing. and something we would definitely want to hear about. i'm talking about the other guy in this picture. now, former republican congresswoman john runnion spent retired in 2015. but before that, he played 14 seasons in the nfl. as an offensive tackle. nine of them for the philadelphia eagles. now he drives for uber in his spare time. why? well, because he can. and sometimes he doesn't have anything else to do. he said he doesn't need the money. he's vp of policy and rules administration for the nfl. so if you're in philly and your uber driver looks like a pro football player turned congressman? he might just be. and believe it or not, this isn't the only politics-football-uber connection out there. ben sass has also been known to drive an uber from time to time in both his state of nebraska, as a way to connect with constituents, and in iowa after losing a bet over, you guessed it, football. that's all for tonight. chuck will be back tomorrow with more "

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