who are the deep state operatives. it is the obama administration weaponized the tools of intelligence in part to target the president and his administration and his transition. this is what we refer to as we say the deep state. that is them shredding the constitution. leaking purposely and selectively to undue the election results and delegitimize the president. take a look at the headline from the washington state free beacon. ambassador power unmasked hundreds in the final years of the obama administration. it was unprecedented for an official in this position. this is the type of things we told you about and warning you about. we learned thanks to our friends sarah carter from circa news that former obama security man

obama administration by president obama and a lot of people who worked for him, that we had to empower iran, that only way we would get them to modernize, became a nuclear power they would be more open to our philosophical ideas. >> it goes back to the carter administration, that basic flawed thinking. all it has done is imbold -- embolden them can be more troublesome to our arab allies in the region, they are doing things across road is hezbollah, and irgc to put forward a shia view of the world, they are funding the north korean issue, helping them develop thins that we now concerned about, by the fact you have north korea directly threateningu territory in the form of guam. this is no small issue, and we helped fund this. we're funding our own enemies. >> north korea we must assume is sharing their nuclear technology with iran. >>, of course,. david: i am wondering if that could get in hands of terrorist, you mentioned that iranian government is helping to sponsor. >> that is a big concern with the min yeah miniaturization, comes the ability to not just put it on a ballistic

number of scandals involving hillary clinton and the obama administration. tonight i'll talk with one of them congressman ron desantis and senate judiciary committee has given the justice department until this thursday, to disclose whether it is investigating alleged collusion between a democratic national committee operative, and ukrainian government officials. republicans on the house judiciary commit latest week, they voted to demand fbi documents pertaining to clinton e-mail investigation. specifically they want former fbi director james comey's conversations with obama administration officials and journalists, perhaps lawmakers should pay closer attention to white house press briefing. press secretary sarah huckabee sanders today laid out the clinton a troubling ties to russia. >> you are focused on a meeting that don jr. had no consequence when democrats actually colluded with a foreign gust like ukraine. took money from russian government and created phony dossier, that is basis for all russia scandal fake news, if you want to talk further about a relationship with russia look

conversations with obama administration officials and journalists, perhaps lawmakers should pay closer attention to white house press briefing. press secretary sarah huckabee sanders today laid out the clinton a troubling ties to russia. >> you are focused on a meeting that don jr. had no consequence when democrats actually colluded with a foreign gust like ukraine. took money from russian government and created phony dossier, that is basis for all russia scandal fake news, if you want to talk further about a relationship with russia look no further than the clintons, as we have said time again bill clinton paid a half million to give a speech to a russian bank and personally thanked by putin, and hillary clinton allowing one fifth of reserve uranium to be sold on a russia firm, found to be clinton donors. an if you want to talk about having relations, you seem obsessed with, look no further than there. cheryl: a compelling list, put forward by white house press secretary, my first guest, part of a group of republicans, calling for appointment of a second special counsel to investigate

secretary of health during the obama administration. did you see this happening as far as this crisis of concern, the obama think administration did in putting some type of stop to it or curb it.o guest: i was current civil servant throughout and the obama administration did a good job of raising the alarm bell. issued very important guidelines o prescribers, they know when to prescribe opioid, they ways to o identify increase treatment and treatment capacity to states and allow providers to actually provide medication assisted treatment. forward, move the ball there is a general's report on addiction, as well. congress, bipartisan action back in december, resident obama signed 21st century bill that poured billion dollars into treatment that is implemented. so there is bipartisan movement forward. administrationmp thus far is interim commission eport, final report is due in october, but i think the commission is taking some, looking at some right steps, of that is all just a plan and a report. people want action, i must say, i look back at some of my health and human services, taking ac

with a invest over the next five year and a fix announced by the obama administration last september. >> there is a modernization plan for the next decade to upgrade the american nuclear arsenal. we make extreme statements about all kinds of things. it is more concerning when you talk nuclear weapons. >> every one of them pointing at new york city or the white house. you want to to something now? >> reporter: the interview with tim russert mirrors the urgency in which they think of the nuclear threat. the dprk actions are dproszly overmatched by ours and lose any arm's race or conflict it nashts. frank leap the u.s. defense budget, we are talking about additional $54 billion. that is about ten percent. it may not sound like a big deal. white house officials will tell you this will not only help them modernize american nuclearars nel but maintaining what we already have. manage we need, my friend. >> lou: thank you very much. north korea'sability to constrict miniaturized nuclear weapons turns out to not be new. that revelation in fact dates back to the obama administration. a defense

obama administration in the end of the obama administration. so the beginning, he had our lab, even those digital still call the lab, we had them on standby for the night of the inauguration. so basically all of the pictures we took on january 20, 2009 hanging in the wall of the west wing the following day, the obama administration so we essentially hung the photos of the last couple weeks we could reflect on what they had just been through. then there came a point time where i had to take those down. it was kind of depressing because all of a sudden the staff walks in the morning of january 20 and it's just blank on the wall. i left the frames for the next administration. but there is nothing in them. that's a strange feeling. to walk out the door like that. >> your book, obama management portraits, district presidency, is it going to be a coffee table book? >> yes, will be 12 inches by 10 inches. 352 pages, it will weigh about r so definitely a coffee table book. there are some words in it too. there's some photographs right tell the complete back story. some just simple have one

? sunny can only tell you how we did it. i can tell you about the beginning of the obama administration and the end of the obama administration. can't tell you much else. at the beginning of the obama administration, we had our glass -- even though it's digital, it's still called glass done we had them on standby for the night of the inauguration, so basically all the pictures we took on january 20th, 2009, were hanging on the wall of the west wing the following day because worked overnight. for the obama administration, the last three weeks we essentially hung the best photos of the eight years of the staff, the last couple weeks to reflect on what they had just been through, and then came a point in time where i just take all the pictures down, and it was kind of depressing actually, because all of a sudden the staff walks in the morning of january 20th, 2017, and it's just blank frames on the wall. i left the frame for the next administration. but there was nothing in them. so that was kind of strange feeling to walk out the door like that. >> host: petasos a, your book "obama and intima

the obama administration. was there an effort by people in the obama administration to spy either on the trunk campaign or the trump transition? >> -- we will continue to make sure that they can perform their oversight functions properly. >> abusing all of the requests that were made by the obama administration officials to find out when a trump person was caught up in servility front of the person was? have you seen those requests? >> yes. >> we provided that to capitol hill. >> but you will not tell us? >> there is an active investigation going on we will let them complete their work. >> does it merit the investigation? >> is a former member of congress i want to give them all of the headroom they possibly could want. >> finally, there has been criticism. that you are too political. instead of being the honest intelligence that the cia director always is, sometimes you try to bolster their views and opinions, policies of the president. her response to that? >> is fundamentally false. i do have biases. there is no doubt about that. i will be aggressive and we met. will be the premie

rendered worthless by eight years of the obama administration, and pleasingly republicans who play along with the president at the time. i can tell you that i worked with the inventor of online auctioning, ebay you my rumor that. i've been involved with inventors for a long, long time. there's one invention i think about particular day like today, and inventor who keeps doing a lot of interesting things. this inventor was asked to go to a hotel in manhattan to go through the personal effects of nicole tasso the probably know one of the most famous inventors in the world. tesla died in the new yorker hotel in this vid went through all of his papers, and one thing in particular he kept in the hotel safe as collateral against his growing hotel bill, it was a box inside a brown paper wrapping. the fbi asked him to open it and while he was looking at it they get behind marble pillars in the hotel lobby. he looked for tripwires. he put a knife under the paper to cut it open. and inside was an invention by nikola tesla. it was in a super weapon like the fbi thought. that invention, his na

served in the obama administration. how do you think the obama administration did in putting some type of stop or at least helping to curb it? -- a: i was a some assert civil servant throughout and i think the obama administration did a very good job raising the alarm bell. the centers of disease prevention and control presented guidelines to providers on went to prescribe opioids. this started to identify ways to increase treatment and treatment capacity and allow more and more providers to actually provide medication assisted treatment. moving the ball forward, there was a general's report on addiction as well. congress through bipartisan action back in december, president obama signed the 21st century cares bill that poured billions of dollars into treatment that is now being of implemented. there is bipartisan movement forward. i think the trump administration thus far -- this is an interim report. the final report is due in october, but i think the commission is looking at some of the right steps. of course, that's all a plan. i must say that if i look back at some of my colleague

the last two administrations and we see the selective leaks and the impact and narrative in the country and scandals of evidence are ignored, sara. >> john solomon and i disclosed that the. 2011, obama administration loosened the rules so much so that people within his administration were able to do this without having to file the

administration. in the obama administration and it's you cash flow in in the middle of the night. there are spending that money on a lot of the organizations that jim mentioned. i want to talk about the proxies. is a humanitarian group that operates to feed the poor. or, the terrorist organization that shares its gains with people to buy their allegiance. they are one of the main places iran spends its money. there are one of the main ways iran push its of power and destabilizes the region. there is another wonderful group of humanitarians. iran backed them. they are causing no and destruction. the other thing i would like to note, let's flip another thing on its head. israel is a great ally. can we get back to that again. we can have iran as an ally and israel as a front of me at best under the obama administration to israel being our only true friend in the region and iran being the enemy to peace in that region. we have changed nothing else but that thought process, i think we have established a much better, and much more realistic world order. groups -- iraner group in yemen. there

administration and the end of the obama administration. i can't really tell you much else. the beginning of the obama administration we had our lab even though it's digital it's still called a lab. we had them on standby for the night of the inauguration, so basically all the pictures we took on january 20, 2009, were hanging on the wall the west wing the following day because they worked overnight. for four the obama administration the last three weeks we essentially hung the best photos of the eight years of the staff the last couple weeks. then, there came a point in time where i had to take those pictures down and it was kind of depressing, actually because it all of a sudden once the staff walks in the morning generally 20th, 2017, and it's just blank frames on the wall. i left the frames for the next administration, but there was nothing in them. that was kind of strange feeling to walk out the door like that. host: pete souza your book, "obama: an intimate portrait", will he be what they call a coffee table book? guest: yes. it will be 12 inches by 10 inches, 352 pages. it will weigh

. >> thank you. lou: i have to start with are we t to infer that obama administration did not go through state department servers, for the e-mail? >> you are correct. they conducted a less than adequate search, that is why the judge ordered them to do to the right way, leaving out cheryl mills and uma abedin, is mindless, a deliberate act on part of state department leadership to thwart the foyallow and prevent, facts truth of benghazi coming out, benghazi is not going away, i don't care who says it is old news. it is not going away. and we will continue to drill down and get all records and facts. lou: chris, i have to ask you this, i mean it is stunning to me, is there not a penalty for state department officials to purposely resist a foya request to commit fraud, obstruct in performance of delivering that information? i agree with you, people should be jailed for this. it is really contempt of court, right. lou: absolutely. >> a dishonest operation, we have government attorneys going in and lying to federal judges, at some point there has to be a pain threshold that for people pay for

shows obama administration ignored warnings about russian interference for years. >> there was no collusion between u.s. and russia. and the opposite, russia spent a lot of money on fighting me. david: taking up obama administration obam -- obama administration inact up next. >> a bird's-eye view of liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad... liberty did what? yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. don't worry - i know what a lug wrench is, dad. is this a lug wrench? maybe? you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. and the wolf huffed like you do sometimes, grandpa? well, when you have copd, it can be hard to breathe. it can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in. so i talked to my doctor. she said... symbicort could help you breathe better, starting within 5 minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden s

night can happen in six months. the obama administration left office with a plan well underway, but it will take years and years to get to completion, so the idea the president came in and told the generals we need to make our nuclear weapons that are, stronger, faster and harder and it happened in six months, that is not true. host: what does it mean to modernize the arsenal, what is involved? guest: it is based around the nuclear triad, meaning you have air based and weapons. in the current set up, cbms on the ground, submarines that can launch of the nuclear weapons, bombers that can drop cruise missiles essentially, so what is the status of those? those are aging and this was a focus at the end of the obama administration because the pentagon began to realize, we let these things lapse. the cold war was over, we do not need nuclear weapons. as the posture has changed, china has been spending money building up their military, and north korea escalations --north korea relations have escalated, so we need to make sure that we are credible. now there are plans underway, the first part

. the trump, obama and george w. bush administration on both sides of the aisle. he is testified more than 20 times before congress and foreign legislators. with that, can you start us off? i would like to focus my remarks on iran's various regional threats and the degree to which those threats have been boosted and complicated by the iran nuclear agreement. i am sorry to say that the access is alive and well. what north korea is doing today, you will love what iran will be doing a few years down the road. these states are led by rogue regimes that have sought nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver them. they have cooperated closely on ballistic missile developments, perhaps to a lesser extent on nuclear issues. both regimes have repeatedly violated their nonproliferation commitments. as the 1994 agreed framework with north korea, -- north korea, failed to stop the country's nuclear ambitions. future historians will eventually say the 2015 nuclear iran agreement failed to stop iran's nuclear ambitions. i would argue that iran is much imposesgerous regime greater long-term th

are in obama administration we'll protect you come hell or high water, that is what they did. >> mm-hmm. >> you bet, greg jarrett thank you. >> good to see you. >> roll video now. europe's talles tal tallest chimney, no match for this man and his date. his date. taking his climbing skills t v slovenia, circling top. juggling. his date is clinging to the side of the chimney. they seem so happy. >> they are so in love. lou: that is truly love. a mad kind of love but love. up next, president trump hitting his predecessor for failing to stop nuclear threat of north korea. >> you look at what happened with bush, what happened with obama, obama? he didn't even walk to talk about it. about time someone has to do it. lou: fret flights takes up our strategy -- north korea following years of obama appeasement next, stay with us, we're coming right back. liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual in

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russia probe as a new report shows obama administration ignored warnings about russian interference for years. >> there was no collusion between u.s. and russia. and the opposite, russia spent a lot of money on fighting me. david: taking up obama administration obam -- obama administration inact up next. >> a bird's-eye view of david: i'm david asman in more lou dobbs who is on vacation. new reports show the obama administration was warned at early as 2014 that russia was aiming to disrupt americans elections. they had a highly-kem lynn source. they were quick to dismiss that those efforts could have an effect in the united states. judicial watch filed a freedom of information request seeking detailed account of what sensitive or classified information comey may have signed out. judicial watch said it was the bureau's responsibility to recover documents from comey to keep the documents private. we are joined by christopher farrell, director of investigation and research for judicial watch. we know for a fact he took out his own notes of his conversations with the president. it could

from the obama administration. the matter is before the u.s. supreme court. in a filing yesterday, the government said ohio's system for removing inactive voters is legal. but civil liberties groups say the process unfairly blocks eligible voters. google has fired the engineer who wrote a memo criticizing the company's gender diversity program. the note, which sparked an uproar, suggested men may be more biologically suited for tech jobs than women. google's c.e.o. denounced the memo in an email yesterday. on wall street, the president's comments on north korea sent stocks lower today. the dow jones industrial average lost 33 points to close at 22,085. the nasdaq fell 13 points, and the s&p 500 dropped six. and, two passings of note in the arts world. country music icon glen campbell has died. he sold more than 45 million records and won five grammys. famous for hits like "rhinestone cowboy" and "wichita lineman," campbell became a fixture at the top of music charts and on radio and tv in the 1960's and '70's. in 2011, campbell announced he'd been diagnosed with alzheimer's. he died to

mentioned, crafted by the obama administration. obviously the president not want to have to deal with that. and here's another portion of his conversation with the australian prime minister. he says, look, i do not know how you got them to sign a deal like this, but that is how they lost the election. they said i had no way to 270 and i got 306. that is why they lost the election because of stupid deals like this. you have brokered many a stupid deal in the business. i respect you but guarantee you broke many a stupid deal.

market, not facing the onslaugt of regulation like in the obama administration, look at apple, sitting with billions of cash because they feared the uncertainty of what regulation should come. now the trump administration may never get to their agenda but the market is confident. corporate america is confident there are no new regulations coming and that was something that held up profitability and growth in the last eight years. >> it used to be 15 years ago or 20 years ago that if the dow was hitting records, that necessarily meant the economy was strong eeoverall. in the last decade or so we've seen a real decoupling of what the real economy is. part of that is half of americans don't own stocks ats all. many have them in a passive way in their 401(k). the dow hitting 22,000 today is very different than its equivalent 10 or 15 years ago. >> clearly again when president trump about how we don't cover it and what a strong sign that is for the economy, that is absolutely not the case. one other thing, markets are paying less and less attention to the president and even global

, north korea conducted their first nuclear test and under the obama administration, the north korean threat increased rapidly and literally have turned this into a crisis point at the president trump now has to deal with. in the case of the obama administration, remember they drastically cut our strategic defense capabilities. not a smart thing. basically, the clinton administration and obama administration ignored the problem. they kicked the can down the road. if all of that sounds familiar, it is. it's so similar to the deal that president obama struck with the radical steve was born to move. over the course of 9 days he walks 26.2 miles, that's a marathon. because he chooses to walk whenever he can. and he does it with support from dr. scholl's. only dr. scholl's has massaging gel insoles that provide all-day comfort to keep him feeling more energized. so he even has the energy to take the long way home. keep it up, steve! dr. scholl's. born to move. get your ancestrydna kit.here. learn about you and the people and places that led to you and see yourself in a new light. ancestryd

assistant secretary of health during the obama administration. -- did you see this happening in the obama administration? how in his administration help to curb it? >> the obama administration did a very good job raising the alarm bell. the center for disease control and prevention did a good job. they started to identify ways to increase treatment and treatment capacity. they allowed more providers to provide assisted treatments. i think he really moved the ball forward. had bipartisanss side the 21stama century -- obama signs a bill that is being implemented. there is bipartisan movement forward. the final report is due in october, but i think the commission is looking at some of the right steps. that is all just a plan and of course, people want action. of my i look back to some colleagues at health and human services, a lot of the agencies are taking an active role in this crisis. back in april, the national institute of health launched a partnership to try to increase the number of medications for addiction treatment as well as chronic pain. the food and drug administration voluntari

over the next five year and a fix announced by the obama administration last september. >> there is a modernization plan for the next decade to upgrade the american nuclear arsenal. we make extreme statements about all kinds of things. it is more concerning when you talk nuclear weapons. >> every one of them pointing at new york city or the white house. you want to to something now? >> reporter: the interview with tim russert mirrors the urgency in which they think of the nuclear threat. the dprk actions are dproszly overmatched by ours and lose any arm's race or conflict it nashts. frank leap the u.s. defense budget, we are talking about additional $54 billion. that is about ten percent. it may not sound like a big deal. white house officials will tell you this will not only help them modernize american nuclearars nel but maintaining what we already have. manage we need, my friend. >> lou: thank you very much. north korea'sability to constrict miniaturized nuclear weapons turns out to not be new. that revelation in fact dates back to the obama administration. a defense intelligence r

wall street journal solomon. ad had device trump and obama men and george w. bush administration is mobile sides of the aisle and testified more than 20 times and with that can you start azov?. >> starting with the regional credit i am sorry to say the access of evil is alive and well if you like what north korea is doing today you like a few years down the road both of these of led by a rogue regime they cooperate closely on ballistic missile development and both regimes have repeatedly violated the nonproliferation commitments just in the 1994 framework with north korea with those ambitions they think a future historian will save the 2015 nuclear agreement failed to stop iran's nuclear ambitions to be a regime of greater long-term threats the much more potent ideology with friends and allies and sarah gets around the world and around the region with a much more aggressive record of regional interventions in the persian gulf is the center of gravity so could establish dominance of the energy security and with as economic percussion -- repercussions contrary to the promises of the n

obama administration. a defense intelligence report was leaked in april 20th. and president obama denied the content of the intelligence assessment. and joining me to discuss president obama's failure to end the crisis before it could begin fox news contributor ambassador john bolton. >> thank you. >> lou: no any other reason to deny what was in american intelligence that the north koreans had miniature war heads for the nuclear program. >> this is the evidence of politicalizing evidence in the obama administration. his approach to north korea mirrored the policy of bush and clinton. he call would strategic patience which was doing nothing. and the one reason that donald trump inherited the situation with few options to him because of obama's inaction and acts of comission including omission to allow north korea to get to this point. >> lou: this president as he predicted in the interview from 28 years ago, did i say 28, it was 18 years ago, that suggesting that proliferation on the part of north korea was at hand and far difficult for a president, hardly he could have imagined i

rights division at the department of justice in the obama administration until january. all that and more, coming up. ♪ amy: welcome to democracy now, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy y goodman. the trump administration sent mixed messages wednesday over the possibility of nuclear war with north korea, as secretary of state rex tillerson sought to defuse tensions, while defense secretary james mattis threatened a nuclear attack. on wednesday, mattis warned north korea not to take any action that could result in the "end of its regime" and the "destruction of its people." his comments came a day after trump startled the worldand reportedly, his own advisors, advisersthreatening north korea with, "fire and fury like the world has never seen." secretary of state tillerson downplayed the rhetoric. rex tillerson: i think american should sleep well at night and have no concerns about this particular rhetoric over the last few days. t the president, again, as commander-in-chief. i think he felt it necessary to issue a strong rhetoric. amy: in response, north korea threa

. what did they know, when did they know what? new report says the obama administration was well aware of russian plans to undermine u.s. democracy. democracy. that report is for years, centurylink has been promising fast internet to small businesses. but for many businesses, it's out of reach. why promise something you can't deliver? comcast business is different. ♪ ♪ we deliver super-fast internet with speeds of 250 megabits per second across our entire network, to more companies, in more locations, than centurylink. we do business where you do business. ♪ ♪ >> bill: catherine herridge tonight on what they knew, when they knew it and why nothing was apparently done about it. >> after political reported the obama administration was warned by national security officials as early as 2014 that the russian government was acquiring tools to disrupt u.s. elections, president trump tweeted. "according to report, president obama knew about russian interference three years ago but didn't want to anger russia." congressional source independent lee confirmed to fox that after russia's annex

them to not build weapons. heather: during the bush administration and obama administration they continued to build on their nuclear program. here is what john bolton had to say. >> we can blame barack obama for the fix we are and can he go to the blizzard ministration plan for missile-defense and we are very much at risk because of obama's policies. i don't think we have the time. we have months to decide whether we will allow north korea to have that capability to put nuclear warheads essentially anywhere they want inside the united states. >> we are left with the intercontinental missile and miniature missiles as well. rob: we have been kicking the can down the road and it has come to a head and the trump administration will deal with. heather: other news to talk about, breaking news from overnight, massive manhunt for suspected cop killer is over. man charged with murdering a missouri officer in cold blood, convicted criminal captured after years on the run. those breaking details from los angeles. >> reporter: after two tireless days, and accused cop killer is behind bars, c

that the obama administration was warned three years ago about moscow's growing ability to interfere with our election process but did very little about it. catherine herridge is live for us in washington, it will be interesting if we hear a lot about the story. >> a congressional source independent lee confirmed to fox news that after russia's annexation and effort to influence the ukraine presidential election two months later, there was deep concern towards developing tools to disrupt democratic elections. these warnings according to the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee were dismissed by the obama administration because it was apparently eager to reset its relationship with moscow. you will probably or member this march 2009 photo op where then secretary of state clinton presented her russian counterpart with a makeshift reset button to highlight the effort. traveling overseas and reached by phone today, nunez stood by this recent public statement. >> we've known russia is a very sophisticated bad actor in the cyber realm, many members of congress have been

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their leaders are doing and why. triple what they were in latter stains of obama administration. so many see this as a symbolic step, the more people who have access to classified information, the more likely that leaks will happen. in 2014, officer of management and suggested that 5.1 million americans are eligible for security clearances, that is 1.5% of the population. a small percentage of that group would ever likely leak anything. it is still a huge number to makes department of justice a task almost impossible. back to you. lou: doug thank you. from the justice department. our first guest said there are already clear trails to the leakers but no political will to do a real investigation. joining us, lieutenant colonel tony shaffer, senior fellow with london center for policy research, good to have you with us. this has to be encouraging to all who are dismayed at what has become a national capital. that reveal the classified information. >> i disagree with do doug on oe point. this is in. could is like blood, it flows, you can trace where it goes. one notable thing about this

go back and look at the obama administration? >> david: zero. mueller is on a crusade to find something against trump. i want to stand up for the obama administration because i do think it's something that russia has been doing for decades. it's not unusual, and i'm sure that whenever -- julian, you probably know better than anyone what happened in the obama administration, but when they saw these examples of russian interference, a lot of people said, what else is new? they've been doing this for years, let's investigate and keep our eye on it, but it's nothing, the former cia rio chief in moscow was talking about, he is the one who said there's no collusion of trump or hillary and the russians, it's ongoing so they looked at him and said we've seen it before, we'll try to guard against it, but is not going to affect us. >> melissa: you can't conflate the idea of russians trying to interfere with delegitimizing the trump presidency. he makes that point when he says this is not real, they're trying to make up for a bad loss. don't connect them. it's not necessary, it doesn't h

officials from the george w. bush and obama administrations talk about recently enacted sanctions and us relations, from the center for the national interests in washington. it runs an hour and 40 minutes. >> thank you very much for joining us, i am paul saunders, executive director, pleased to see such a big group in the middle of august in washington. the traffic led me to think the city was depopulated that it clearly demonstrates otherwise and we appreciate you taking the time to be with us. we have interesting conversation about the new us sanctions on russia, and highly experienced speakers will give us some perspective and quite grateful to them for taking their time to be with us. tomy right, dan russell, the president and ceo of the us russia business council. dan is a former career diplomat, deputy assistant secretary of state responsible for russia, ukraine, belarus, arms control and other matters. during the previous administration, the obama administration, deputy chief at the us embassy in moscow in dan. to the left is george beebe, senior director for -- director for intel

the unmasking request by members, officials of the obama administration. was there an effort by people in the obama administration to spy on the trump campaign or the trump transition. >> there is an active investigation going on across capitol hill. we have done our job and provided information in response to inquiries for multiple committees on senate and outside. we will continue to do that to make sure they can perform their oversight functions. chris: have you seen all the request for unmasking that were made by obama administration officials to find out when a trump persia person was caught n foreign surveillance, to try to find out who that person was. are you satisfied they were legitimate. >> we provide that information to capitol hill. there is an active investigation going on, chris. we will let them complete their work. chris: do you think it merits more investigation? >> as a former member of congress, i want to give them all the headroom they possibly could want. chris: finally, there has been criticism that you are too political. instead of being the honest broker

wrong, might be the beginning of the obama administration, there was a over that was proposed for a journal, the new yorker. and just saying this objectively, not being biassed, avoid appearing for either side. the new yorker magazine, you can get more cosmopolitan than the new yorker magazine, there was coverage, ou recall, once obama was elected that it was quite scandalous. obama was dressed some kind of middle eastern and michelle obama was fatigue, a military carrying a rifle with her hand sort of r in a fist, black panther gesture. i don't know if you recall this. i recall it. but i remember that they had journal.that on the and the reaction, i don't believe they published it, but reaction was, as you would expect from members of the media people who had voted for the obama administration, they were up in it.s about it was scandalous, how dare you the omething like that on cover of the new yorker magazine. new yorker he magazine apologized left and right, up and down. i believe they didn't go through with that cover. to 2017, i don't seen in my life hell-bent on thrashing this