better then they're in the middle or they're in the south in iraq in order that i think. the government. over the dealing but what there are seventy to about it's not only because they are conditioned us not but their but they are the crisis and the whole the iraq mr added then do you agree that the kurdish government has only taken from iraq they have of course had the economic success economic progress and we've had strong international condemnation to this referendum the turkish president saying that he's going to turn off the oil taps how would kurdistan export its oil of turkey did that. well i'll take the question in two parts the first is the reality is sovereign states have access to certain advantages certain benefits afforded to them by the international system it's true that the k r g did enter into a power sharing arrangement with baghdad since two thousand and three but at the same time that was an arrangement whereby the k r g was dependent on the politics and the nature of politics authority and governance in baghdad where baghdad became increasingly author

we start from the point of strong iraq the weak iraq will make all of us wait the new iraq will be for the iraqis and not the way during the era of saddam and now the strong iraq is to protect its son and daughters and to protect the citizens of iraq i said we need not the weak iraq some people are planning to have a weak iraq and this is wrong there are. during the last fourteen. years you have seen some militias some people in some govern raise some people in some bridges. they want to iraq to be weak and this is completely rejected and the iraqis have rejected that that this is the general mood in the come train we are all again is to find an ism and we are all against. these sick terrorists sick tarion aspects in the country and we need to make sure that we are all was better and we need to make sure of that we need to be better as iraq a not to be better as one sector alone might is has the more you are good to. god the more you prefer as a citizen and as a country we need to work for the welfare of the iraq as a whole and we have a lot of moderates who lost their lives for the sa

the iraq he country the country of iraq has a constitution it has a parliament it has a government and there are neighboring countries too that. are forced to abide by. the will of the that is the law if the iranians are not in a position to go against the iraqi constitution if bad says or we are not allowed to have flights come into iraq without our authority then the iranians will not do that and i think our friends in kurdish iraq should remember that when said most at the mirror very americans who are secretly supporting this disintegration of iraq along with the israelis they should remember that when the americans were supporting saddam hussein and giving him chemical weapons and during the anfal operation after the two thousand and one war with iraq the americans allowed saddam hussein to use his helicopters and take back territory where two million iraqi kurds went to iran and iran allowed all of them into the country and also when isis brought us on we all remember when isis attacked and took most of ours and he did nothing. and when i say i parked out of being in the right wh

the iraqis are very concerned because they see kurdistan iraq as part of iraq and they don't want to get it divided but people here say we will go our way to karim and so the manufacturer and i was the fourth round of formal talks come to an end in brussels britain and the e.u. say they have had a constructive week but in fact secretary david davis was upbeat saying the teams had made decisive steps forward but his european counterparts michel barnier has more and more progress was needed before the next phase of talks on trade and a transition period could begin. well t.w. about your of course upon the matter since been covering those talks he joins us from brussels welcome so reading between the lines of the statements from the two sides what has been your assessment of his fourth round. i would say this fourth round was a little more constructive there was a little bit more clarity but all of that is a far cry from actual agreement so in key areas both sides remain divided for instance if you look at the brics it builds on the financial can financial commitments that the u.k.'s tw

some things to remember about iraq and set. to submit iraq, iraq was not a dry country. iraq was a very liberal country where they had separation between mosque and state. they had intermarriage of the different stacks of islam. you could be shia in living next door to a sunni. saddam hussein's foreign minister was a christian, a coptic christian. so the idea of this overtaking the sectarianism is something that has always been present, but has been amplified a think by the influence of outsiders like iran and it has been influenced from al qaeda acting that way, found the world of islam did they wait us out because and he gets to this gentleman's some people may say look. maybe that's one of country we were not necessarily going know, then when you not only tell commander-in-chief, look we will the commander-in-chief says the national security adviser goes guys grimaces, don't worry about it. the last eight years during the, look him more at some we have an administration that is talking about just such a way that and where did he go went to russia about an enormous amo

iraqi kurds vote in an independence referendum despite fierce opposition from iraq turkey and iraq. hello this is al jazeera life doha i'm adrian fit again also coming up a fourth time in power despite big losses for hagel america.

parts of iraq outside criticism of iraq even the two in twenty eighteen elections was coming up and the prime minister by the seems to be trying to appease the more hardliners around mr maliki who want to take a stronger position against the could is the regional government because of their friend mr maliki of course being the former iraqi prime minister ahmed rushdie in baghdad is that a fair consideration in your mind because the iraqi prime minister has to go to the polls next year mr barzani the leader in the kurdish region he's jew to step down next month well is tall and sort about is the prime minister of all of iraq so he actually can what must do what he can do he's the higher commander of the iraqi army he has so many authority is that it's supposed to be for the unity of iraq that's supposed to be used for the unity of iraq but the most important thing is that particular speaking he has so many pressures he has from the shia parties there are so many pressure from the shia parties from iran from turkey. and also of course from the hotshot from the pm forces also which means t

as well coniston first and iraq iraq had nothing to do with nine eleven despite all of the lies that we have heard over the owner of from weapons of mass destruction assassination nothing to do with nine eleven absolutely nothing. and that's why i said the word indirectly in other words obviously saddam hussein. nothing to do with al qaeda and iraq in all of that other business but what i think president bush did however was take a emotionally fragile united states and took the political opportunity to invade iraq based on sort of the aftermath of nine eleven so i would say it was indirectly tied that nine eleven sort of created a political space that allowed president bush to then go off on to this completely different adventure in iraq so they're related but they're not they're not related in direct substance going into iraq after nine eleven was a horrendous move and we're still dealing with those repr cautions what i was saying at all is that in the absence of nine eleven we wouldn't have gone into iraq but there's a very good article by a scholar name call him kaufman which show

this is the news the live from berlin independence for the kurds in iraq baghdad says no kurds are celebrating as their vote for independence gets overwhelming support but there's talk in baghdad of sending in the troops so where is the vote to secede from iraq heading also coming up german chancellor of the machall hits the campaign trail again just days after winning the general election this time around she's helping out in a vote and one of germany's states. and hugh hefner the founder of playboy dies at the age of ninety one did he empower women or was he just a peddler of porn. i'm brian thomas welcome to the show iraq's kurds are facing growing political isolation after the massive yes to independence and monday's referendum airlines from turkey egypt jordan lebanon all saying they'll be halting flights to iraqi kurdistan at the request of baghdad now turkey has also warned it could stop cross border trade with the region and iraq. central government has threatened its own sanctions. there were euphoric scenes among iraq's kurds after the official result was announced kurdish authority

united states have wider interests the us has an interest in preventing the complete meltdown of its iraq policy russia has a strong interest in consolidating the games it made in backing the syrian government so the two superpowers have a significant interest in seeing a stable outcome to this development and recognizing it as a reality the kurdish people voted in extremely large numbers peacefully and quietly on behalf of independence now do you politically speaking i think russia is in a bind here because policy wise it is strongly against any kind of secession but the crimean referendum of two thousand and fourteen makes it harder for. you a protest against the kurdish vote but that mary cannot facing such perplexity why do you think with washington is not showing more indignation very straightforwardly the kurds are america's only reliable allies in this part of the world america is waking up to the fact that the baghdad government is largely a rainy and dominate so america's new the absurd position of backing the iranian government against its kurdish allies american policy has alwa

currents in iraq vote yes for independence but iraq isn't going to let them go without a fight and turkey is threatening to get involved in the conflict as well i'm sorry i'm in berlin this is the day. so that the people of kurdistan have made their decision and entered a new phase different from anything in the past. that nobody blame us for this but that they took advantage of the situation and broke the bounds of the constitution and upward for the for the more than the one i don't want to sign they will use force. barzani and the northern iraqi administration will go down in history bearing the shame of pushing our region into an endless sectarian war coalition. that iraq after two thousand and three was established by american and coalition forces america has to mediate to save the blood of iraqis and avoid civil war between kurds and arabs. also on the show the founder of playboy hugh hefner's died at the age of ninety one i'll speak to a former editorial director of flyboy magazine about the man and his legacy coming up but first iraq's kurdish minority has said yes to independence

unofficial results in iraq he cares a vote to secede baghdad and show their displeasure with more threats. you know without is there a life and death is also coming up donald trump says he'll go to puerto rico after being criticized for his lack of empathy for u.s. territory hit by hurricane maria. changing gears saudi arabia will allow women to drive for the first time starting next year. and too slow too inefficient to the french president outlines his vision for transforming the european union. the first iraq has ordered the kurdistan regional government to surrender control of his samples all face and in boggo on international flights now as part of mounting pressure on the kurdish leadership over secession referendum which was held on monday charles shafiq reports from a bill. the rhetoric and threats continue and from both sides iraq to me that i still is still occupying some parts of kirkuk and some parts of iraq i still is still a threat to the cities with some of our brothers in iraqi kurdistan a living we must not divide iraq according to or through all viral referendum that is

this is d w news and live from berlin tonight independence for the kurds in iraq baghdad says no ninety two percent of kurds has said yes to independence and monday's referendum baghdad says it will not recognize the vote and deciding federal troops to retake control of the kurdish region will this conflict lead to violence also coming up saudi arabia says it will lift its ban on women drivers but is there more behind the wheel here could this be a sign of wider reform in this notoriously conservative king. i'm bringing off it's good to have you with us tonight iraq is faced with the question of how to keep the country together it comes after kurds in the north of the country voted overwhelmingly in favor of independence kurdish authorities say over ninety two percent of kurds backed independence in a referendum held on monday but iraq's central government in baghdad refuses to respect the result and has threatened sanctions against the kurds all that could put them on a collision course with a newly confident nation in waiting. there were euphoric scenes among iraq's kurds after the of

iraq to me that i still is still occupying some parts of kirkuk and some parts of iraq i still is still a threat to the cities with some of our brothers in iraqi kurdistan a living we must not divide iraq according to or through all viral referendum that is completely rejected such language will go down well with the international community including the u.s. and the e.u. each sent the timing of the vote could weaken iraq's unity at a time when the fight against terrorism is paramount ela bhatt he says the kurdish referendum on independence was unconstitutional and the federal government will ignore the expected yes result only a few minutes after all about his speech the kayleigh g president appeared on kurdish television masoud barzani invited leaders of neighboring countries for dialogue but he remained defiant he said the wishes of iraq's kurds should be respected but. yes in the beginning we agreed on the constitution and partnership and the role of the kurdistan region in the establishment of iraq is very clear but you violated every agreement there is no need for anger and threat

what we have done to rebuild iraq a new iraq a new chapter we ask the question where do we stand. at all these difficulties that we are facing on the bases with the fact that this is we can do what we have done so far we cannot contribute further we cannot improve. what has been said in terms of. stability or unity which the international community continuously emphasize about iraq or united iraq. as a slogan maybe. an approach of the politicians but in reality on the ground is not one and iraq is not united and we as kurds are not the ones to be blamed for what is happening in the rest of iraq and the direct wrong directions that iraq has gone through what we are trying to do when we talk about an independent entity of kurdistan it is not. complicate the situation and further to the problems that are existing in this country country we feel that in the pin into will. factor stability and the wrongdoings and instabilities that exist in the region it is not a doing of the of the kurdish people it is not our fault that iraq has gone in that direction. present massoud barzani said th

we had a lot of hope in this new iraq that this will be a new opportunity for iraq that will be based on federalism on coexistence on democracy on them and we can live together and have coexistence and we did whatever we could to enhance that kind of iraq. so you are very. aware of. korea corn you're. the story keyboard. boy. ed on the meter whole i need this two week live show where. you could in the stone. of a business who we've got. point is good then the. love part is going no no orla point is going to be a lot. and after two thousand and five when we have been working on the new iraq you can institution be fine despite some of the deficiencies of that constitution but we thought at that time that's a good constitution because it's for the first time that iraq has already a constitution and if it has not been for the kurdistan the people that constitution not passed because the kurdish population in the name of our province and also in the province voted to rescue this constitution because in the constitution it has been stupid lated if the majority or three provinces are not goi

but dad has called the vote unconstitutional on tuesday iraq's prime minister. said international flights to the kurdish region would be suspended and vowed to keep iraq from breaking apart. they took advantage of the situation and violated the constitution i don't want to say that we will use force we'll use our heads and respect the constitution if they respond to this then it's fine and therefore today i demand that they return all the areas they recaptured from the islamic state it's what parliament decided. iraq's neighbors have rejected the referendum on tuesday turkey held joint military exercises along its border with a kurdish region and threaten to block kurdistan's oil exports. several airlines have also stopped flights to north and iraq at baghdad's request. the non-binding vote is unlikely to lead to independence anytime soon but that has not dampened the mood across the cut issue region. and from on the story i'm joined by detail because. he's insulin money a in iraq a kurdish region scientific what is the mood like i read. i'm rich i'm now standin

but now the northern iraqi authority is taking a step towards the separation of iraq. one source of tension is the disputed territory of coke cook which the kurds say belongs to them but is also claimed by iraq the kurds have been clear that the referendum will take place in part cook and have sent troops to the city but the local iraqi shia led militia says any ballot box will be seen as an act of aggression the international community also reacted the u.s. special representative to the anti eisel coalition said that the u.s. would not support any referendum and in fact said that the iraqis should get together and concentrate on the fight against and that's also a view echoed by the british foreign office across the kurdish region flags have been waving and nationalism amongst this distinct ethnic group is. the fevered pitch ordinary kurds and their leaders see this referendum as they might want a charge for self-determination and their own nation state something they've been striving for the navy a century however some party saying time is not now but they may back t

penalties iraq barcelona spain and. unconfirmed reports suggest the former time prime minister yingluck shinawatra could be in london she was sentenced to five years in prison on weapons they are a corrupt rice subsidy scheme which lost billions of dollars being lucky wasn't in court to hear the verdict because she left thailand last month sources in the united arab emirates say she left a boeing in september the eleventh and headed for london when he has more now from bangkok. prior to the verdict being delivered on wednesday the prime minister of thailand general pryor china china said that he knew where the what was and would tell everyone after the verdict well we now know that the former prime minister yingluck was given a five year jail term for negligence and he now says that she is in dubai the prime minister saying the police will now have to proceed and coordinate with the foreign ministry and interpol in reality though if she is in dubai it seems there is very little that the thai government will be able to d

this is d w news live from berlin tonight independence for the kurds in iraq baghdad says no way ninety two percent of kurds said yes to independence in monday's referendum baghdad says it will not recognize the vote and decide the federal troops to retake control of the kurdish region will a vote for freedom and lead to a future of war also coming up saudi arabia says it will lift its ban on women drivers but is there more behind the wheel here could more reform and this notoriously conservative kingdom be just around the bend. and bombs away canada's bombarded brings out the big guns to defend its airline business in what some fear could be the start of a trade war with the u.s. . plus we'll have an exclusive report tonight on the fight against al shabaab in somalia civilians are paying a heavy price in the struggle to defeat jihad and that's on top of the hardships of thirty years of civil war. i'm bringing off it's good to have you. with us tonight iraq is faced with the question of how to keep the country together that's after kurds in the north of the country voted overwhelmingly

each sent the timing of the vote could weaken iraq's unity at a time when the fight against terrorism is paramount. ela bhatt he says the kurdish referendum on independence was unconstitutional and the federal government will ignore the expected yes result only a few minutes after the speech the kayleigh g president appeared on kurdish television lawsuit doesn't he invited l.-a body and leaders of neighboring countries for dialogue but he remained defiant he said the wishes of iraq's kurds should be respected. but. yes in the beginning we agreed on the constitution of partnership and the role of the kurdistan region in the establishment of iraq is very clear but you violated every agreement there is no need for anger and threats you have only yourself to blame. the results of the referendum on not finding the kurdish president wants a mandate to push the bank government into negotiations towards independence for iraq's. neighboring countries such as turkey fearful of the effect such a drive towards independence by the iraqi kurds could have on their own large kurdish populations have

all we really pose national authority across the whole of iraq including the kurdish region. and this is not a threat. that instead of threatening and punishments let's start a serious dialogue to be good neighbors. that. will be honest we will use all the tools of the constitution and the law and we will surprise them. then we might face hardships but i'm sure the future will be bright that. we say little but i will speak for themselves the most important is that the will of the people of kurdistan could not be broken. also on the show tonight the trump train in the german election and the one leader whose final term in office may be all about making that train jumped the track of the new york times columnist roger cohen is my guest tonight will be here in about eight minutes. we begin the day with a lesson in the costs of daring to vote for freedom now this week the kurdish people in northern iraq held a referendum on independence and it passed with overwhelming support more than ninety percent of the vote now these are the same kurds who were almost crushed by saddam husse

the iraqis are very concerned because they see kurdistan iraq as part of iraq and they don't want to get it divided but people here say we will go our way to karim and solar manufacturer. britain and they have had a constructive week as the fourth round of formal talks come to an end in brussels britain's brac secretary david davis was upbeat the teams had made decisive steps forward but his european counterparts michel barnier has warned that more progress is needed for the next phase of talks on trade and the transition period can begin . well t w about your of course from the matters has been covering those talks he joins us from brussels welcome so reading between the lines of the statements from the two sides what has been your assessment of this fourth round. i would say this fourth round was a little more constructive there was a little bit more clarity but all of that is a far cry from actual agreement so in key areas both sides remain divided for instance if you look at the brics it builds on the financial can financial commitments that the u.k.'s two on or an agreement is f

iraq's kurdish region is about ten ounces the official results from monday's succession referendum an official estimate say kurds have voted yes iraqi prime minister body is ready regional leaders to cancel the results it's good morning from me joining us live from bill we waiting on the results what are you hearing how is it going to work. well we're waiting for the results the first said that they were supposed to be announced a short while ago. however the room where the press conference is going to happen is full with journalism everybody is really on standby even the people here in this square behind me everybody has been coming and asking us do you know what the results are so this is a certain level of anticipation among kurds probably as curious as. we can fairly say that the vote would have won in this referendum even though we don't know the percentage the only figure we have of this board is that there was quite a high turnout somewhere around seventy two to seventy five percent and we have a breakdown of the turnout in the cities within the kurdish region the turnout. reac

not because america invaded iraq. we got into the situation because saddam hussein has inflicted an artificial uniformity on iraq for decades. bashar al—assad is doing the same now. it is a relevant question, what happens after the invasions, but what i think is a more original sin is the complacency when these dictators are in place in the first place. and not understanding centuries of instability that will ensue. that comes back to the point i was making earlier, because we have taken off colonialism, we cannot do that any more, we cannot impose and bring order with it. now you have to figure out what does russia or america, or the turks, in the region actually want? they cannot agree on when to have a cup of coffee. consequently you have this endless war going on. every time you think you have got this fire put out, it merely spreads over here. isis may disappear. it could be some ultra—sunni... this is a very important point. we are doing it now. we are creating situations now. if you see the support of the u

stability of unity which the international community continuously emphasize about iraq or united iraq. as a slogan may be that. of the politicians but in reality on the ground. united and. kurds are not the ones to be blamed for what is happening in the rest of iraq and the direct. trying to do when we talk about an independent entity of kurdistan it is not to complicate the situation and further to the problems that are existing in this country. and in the. factory stability. doings and instability is that exist in the region it is not doing. the kurdish people it is not. present massoud barzani said that the spirit of colonial era border in the middle east like they psych speak or agreement is over and their region needs a new formula that will include independent kurdistan what other new things do you hope this formula to include do you think that iraq and syria will survive in their current form. when the issue of independence. has been. brought about and even discussed we solian purely talk about what we have iraqi kurdistan and the christan region within iraq and the issue of be

a whole and we have a lot of martyrs who lost their lives for the sake of iraq and the unity of iraq the referendum is not for that. i still are still occupying some parts of cairo. and some parts of iraq i salute is a threat to the cities where some of our brothers in kurdistan and iraq are living we need not to divide iraq a cold drink or through or via roof the random the is completely rejected are you wont that the consequences of the referendum will have no negative impact on the country and negative impact on the citizens and we have to say that before the referendum and we are continuing this we need to deal with the problems and we are now unified again this dash we need also to be unified again he said to think why we actually use it charter why we have these different slogans we need to stop that and we need to stop all of the consequences of saddam and his era that's why why it's. it important for the time being to be quiet unified arabs command their everyone the citizens some of the citizens who are not believing in this world king how to divide iraq and we need to make

iraq turkey and iraq. hello i'm adrian for the get this is al jazeera live from doha also coming up a fourth for a week and angle of merkel in germany as far right nationalists make it to parliament for the first time since the nazi era. donald trump adds north korea chad and venezuela to the list of countries whose nationals face a u.s. travel ban. and the impact of hurricane maria on the caribbean island of dominic. this was the first time in nearly six days that there's been any water distribution here you can see people are anxious to get water they're thirsty they're hungry there's no electricity here. iraqi kurds are voting right now at a controversial referendum on the region's independence the president of iraq's kurdish regional government supersonic cost his ballots in the last hour around five million kurds are eligible to vote the referendum is non-binding but it could trigger a process of separation in a country that's already divided along sectarian. ethnic lines we have correspondents right

the iraqis are very concerned because they see kurdistan iraq as part of iraq and they don't want to get it divided but people here say we will go our way to karim and so the manufacturer. and let's take a look at some of the other stories making news around the world the u.s. air strike in afghanistan's capital kabul has claimed a number of civilian casualties officials say the strike missed its intended target due to what they say was a missile malfunction it had been aimed at militants who launched a rocket said kabul airport on wednesday shortly after u.s. defense secretary james mattis arrived on a visit britain's back to secretary david davis has said there have been decisive steps forward to join the fourth round of formal talks european counterpart michel barnier has however warned that more progress was needed before the next phase of talks on trade and a transition period could begin. officials from spain's national government and catalonians regional government of held the talks to discuss the policing of this sunday's unauthorized catalan independence referendum catalonia

led offensive not just in syria but also iraq began. the incessant coverage in the west media and condemnation by western governments and human rights groups when it was being claimed by activists and others on the ground in aleppo for example that syria and russia were killing civilians while now those very same activists in many cases alleging that american led coalition and its s. trucks in places such as rock i need mosul in iraq have killed very many more civilians that for example it's the assessment of the british based on highly respected monitoring group was for example that the deaths from american strikes or led strikes in syria and in iraq have easily surpass those of civilian deaths caused by russia and syria and we must remember that some civilian deaths as the human rights watch report itself and which is inevitable but what's of concern here is that these reports these consistent reports of very large numbers of civilian casualties remember for every death there's probably three or five people be maimed as well and what

this is the the only news life from iraq faces a possible break up as ninety two percent of cuts called for independence that's results of monday's referendum which baghdad says it will not recognize the way the country go now. also on the program saudi arabia to lift its ban on women drivers is this a sign of wider reform in this notoriously conservative take. on the european commission office new proposals to fix the a used migration crisis the block is as divided as ever. i'm phil gale welcome to the program an overwhelming majority of iraqi kurds have voted in favor of independence from iraq announcing the results of monday's referendum the kurdish election commission said more than ninety two percent of voters i had elected to secede and have a year referendum took place in iraq's autonomous kurdistan region as well as disputed areas of northern iraq it was celebrations in the city of solo money as the results were announced central government in baghdad has opposed the referendum since its inception. more now from journalist a bigot svenson she joins us on the line from kirkuk one

there have been 2 megabits defeats for isis in iraq and syria. raqqah is under siege. —— there have been two big defeats. there have been two big defeats. there have been attacks in iraq recently. shia pilgrims were killed. in syria, isis militants are laying landmines and attacking civilians as they leave. and another major town in iraq, something similar is happening. isis have lost their big flagship cities. that does not mean that two things are not happening. there is no way fakir being created now isis has gone. —— there is a vacuum being created now isis has gone. most of these hinterlands are not governable. isis leaving town does not mean pockets of them do not exist, i go back to my original two points, the second thing which is going on is that there are now three parties, arab league, sort of soldiers, and they are inflicting heavy civilian casualties as well as people fleeing cities like raqqa. all eyes are acting against isis, they are causing casualties, and there were also casualties being inflicted by isis. when people sa

iraq was not a radical country. saddam hussein started acting that way and sort of found religion after the 1991 gulf war. he wanted to be able to attract more of those folks so that he could then use them to increase his fear of influence. understanding the immediate realities how reliable would you say that the u.s. is a partner to that. how much of a hit and credibility do we take by walking away from admission. i think about syria today. how bad is it. with the skittishness of the public and the reliability of the news media. to paint a picture. it's a very good question. there very long view. some people may say look maybe that's one of the reasons why this wasn't in work because as a country we were not necessarily going to have the stamina to do this for the long haul. but it certainly did her our credibility. when you tell your enemy when you are leaving and then, when you not only tell them when you're leaving but the generals tell the commander-in-chief you look you want to get out. were going to do what w

less secure we are within one iraq this constitution has been voted. on it by all the iraqi people including the will of the iraqi population so i think to challenge the construction of this man there would be knocking. if you challenge the court situation if you challenge the borders of iraq on the border of the region then there will not be this is a public invitation to that countries in the region to violate iraq people towards war which is very good justification. imran khan is in erbil in northern iraq joins us live now and ron i guess these comments from hydrilla body contributing to general sense of tension around this vote. well that's absolutely right what we're hearing from kurdish sources is comments have been met with a mixture of anger and defines anger at what he's actually saying the kurds are saying that this is all moment of self determination and we are going to run a referendum for independence on september twenty fifth they're also angry because they feel that he might have escalated what would be already a tense situation it reall