. >> tim o'brien, bloomberg. and christine quinn, vice chair of the new york state democratic party. i'm so glad you guys are all here. what a way to start the year. robert, i want to start with you. let's go inside the white house. we have to split it up. how the book is being received. i myself just last night was speaking to speak inside the white house who are saying holy cow. this book, spirit of it, maybe not every word, but i spoke to someone who said 90% of this, this thing is true. now, the president, he certainly has a different view. you take me inside your white house. >> stephanie, i was hearing many stories over the past 24 hours from sources close to the president. they say you have to understand the context about how this all came about. president's elected last year. everyone's somewhat shocked about this development. and wolff's there and says i'm going to try to chronicle the transition. they feel like they're in a hostile environment. he seems friendly to them. they grant him access during the
tim o'brien, executive editor of bloomberg view. and shannon, to you first, republicans want to run a major victory lap. saying it's a clear win. i don't know it's a clear win. three weeks from now, mitch mcconnell has put himself in a position where he has to answer for daca. on the other side, you've got 9 million kids who now don't have to worry about health care. it kind of feels like it's a path for everyone to win. >> it's a battle they won but there's still the war to win here. that's where things are going to get difficult as halle alluded. the president saw that in that bipartisan meeting, where he said bring me a deal. he seemed open to a lot of different options. and immediately got hit by, you know, the hard-liners in his base and the hard-liners on this immigration debate. so it is going to be -- this is maybe one of the most divisive issues among republicans right now, immigration. so it is going to continue to be a tough battle and the war's not over. but the white house is going to take wins where they can get them.
or -- >> yeah, the last time he was deposed in the lawsuit against tim o'brien, he told dozens of lies. >> or they're rattling the tree, getting everybody interviewed, and this is what i've always believed this was at the end of the day anyway, this is going to return to a money laundering case or a case of collusion with russia. we'll see. but despite everything we're seeing this morning, i'm still not convinced that's what -- >> that is important to note, that they could be rattling the tree. bringing all of these people in for questioning, whether it's pompeo, jim comey, mike rodgers, it doesn't mean something happened. we agree obstruction of justice is a tough nut to track? >> i agree with the senator, there doesn't appear to be an obstruction of justice case. >> i don't think he said there doesn't appear to be obstruction of justice. he said it's hard to prove. >> and for the president of the united states, it has to be overwhelming. >> the president has acted entirely within his purview, even in the actions that we don't know directly from his self-reporting, but from what's bee
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