korea's nuclear use universe and promote in discussions between north korea north korea and the united states than with the coup the. south korean president moon in said he's committed to pursue the rick installation with north korea now when it comes to reconsideration what do you think is the top priority nuclear issue deescalation well i mean deescalation is obviously important what the government has made it very clear that in pursuing the escalation there alternate cool is denuclearization of the korean peninsula i don't think anybody can question that what is however being question is the method the government is using to or by that goal so i think there's a lot of doubt i think in the international circle as to whether this particular policies going to war whether. setting sending all such a warm welcome for the north korean the leash on accommodating these high ranking members or the only on elite circle not to mention that today there were reports president moon might in fact even meet with kim jong un sr so that's that's a lot of welcome being shown but in return what can the

about engagement with north korea. what is the u.s. stance for talking with north korea? vice pres. pence: let us be clear who you are dealing with. north korea is the most repressive regime and the planet. as the united nations has documented repeatedly, north korea is a nation that oppresses its people. seven out of 10 north koreans require food assistance just to survive. over a million north koreans were left to starve and die in the 1990's under this regime. torture, brutality, imprisonment, more than 100,000 north koreans are in modern-day gulags. as president trump said memorably, north korea is today nothing short of a prison state. that is the reality. the fact that north korea is developing and pursuing nuclear weapons that could be delivered on ballistic missiles to the continental united states is completely unacceptable. the fixed policy of the united states of america is that we are going to continue, with all options on the table, to bring intensifying economic and diplomatic pressure to bear until north

could become independent that's the real issue what does north korea want north korea wants the security guarantee they want it and the u.s. south korean military exercises that simulate the destruction of their country that take place twice a year there's a possibility for a negotiated outcome here there's one obstacle the real obstacle to a negotiated outcome of the. korean peninsula crisis isn't washington d.c. it's not pyongyang or and so. you know part of the security architecture of south korea is that if there is some kind of conflict a major conflict the entire control of the korean military is under an american four star general i mean as an expert on korea i mean how does that sit with the korean population when they know that you know it's going to be the united states ultimately it's going to control that determine their security future and then you have folks reaching out its hand we don't know if it's real we don't know if it's genuine we don't know if this is just a ploy i mean it's a small step optics or something but i mean how does south korea feel about that i mean may

reporter: just a quick follow back on north korea. first of all, you mentioned you spoke with the president this morning. has there been any additional instructions in terms of what's going on in the region with north korea and a possible meeting? could you just give us a little flavor of the dynamic going on with the possible meeting, even despite their rhetoric where the north koreans sending mention -- messages through the south that they'd like to meet? our -- are the south koreans trying to get to you meet? there's just this wind in the air about you meeting with them. how did that come about? vice president pence: as i said a few days ago -- i haven't requested a meeting. reporter: exactly. so how did the idea come about? pence: leave that to others to discuss. let me say at this point in time, we're headed to the olympics. there may be a possibility for any kind of an encounter with north koreans, whether it be informal or whether it take the form of a meeting. reporter: do you know of any particular -- >> we'll have to wait an

to neutralize defect of charm offensive that north korea was. was doing in the olympics so i see nothing wrong with the present tense is. added to that there but i'm better at that was actually in response of vice president pants ignoring and snubbing the north koreans during the olympics we've done no we've not as a speculation there's a speculation but i think for most korea. in might have been better i think of a smart decision to not to talk to the americans because if they are not. ready to commit to denuclearization meeting with the american this very dangerous because that will confirm if that confirms that most korea has no interest in the new craze asian and those who still believe in diplomacy will become the biggest losers in washington so i don't think north korea is ready to accept a two new credit at this point and even if the meeting took place i don't believe it could have produced any positive result it could have been. it just more likely it was more likely to produce a contest trophy rather than a positive result so in that re

korea's policy north korea's calculus. you know general i don't i don't either shared the myth that there were sanctions all the time yes there were sanctions nominal sanctions. solicitations yes but not the kind of sanctions that are necessary to pressure north korea into denuclearization that there have never been this kind of sanctions now and there's been a push by russia and china for a so-called freeze for freeze agreement where the u.s. halts the drills in return for pyongyang halting nuclear activities do you feel this is a possibility i mean will the south koreans agree with that i don't think it makes sense it does not sense because i don't think the what is what is the legal koreas. retaining north korea's nuclear armament is banned by security council resolution is illegal under international law. military drills have been there all the time before north korea begin nuclear development and they are defensive. and i look and this is not illegal. so most korea is conducting military drills all the time also so i

to south korea but you know president trump you know how to north korea might have approval north korea compass of korea now at the same time i heard you say in an interview to c.n.n. back in september that if the u.s. had spent at least one fifth of effort they put into the iran deal on the north korean issue is the whole problem could have been resolved do you think the u.s. is reluctant to bring about a plausible solution to the issue if you know how to speak pay more attention to. the north korean nuclear issue i personally believe the us code can come up with a solution but. the u.s. has been paying too much attention to military no solutions but i hope the u.s. would pay more attention to peaceful solution to the north korean nuclear problem. presently and you right now have been praising president trump for his role in kicking off they enter korean talks why do you get trump credit for this specifically i mean not just the u.s. but who russia and china have also been calling for talks and say since the very beginning actually. very simple because north korea want to play havoc wi

ok and they didn't demonize north korea they treat north korea is a normal counterpart and leadership commitment was and i've been put in that and there was a very effective in the communication channels. says things might not be so bad now if the current us administration were willing to negotiate instead the us president derides and threatens kim jong on this. rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime those kinds of so-called the hostile rhetorics could be very very counter productive and honestly he has been elevating can do instead has to he still has. tells us he remains committed to dialogue even though he too has been the target of verbal attacks from north korea. vietnam and i've not. met the north koreans and i told the north koreans ok ok i came ok here the dog of american imperial east here how the hell do you can you can criticize me in that way i've been walking with you we've all my heart and i made a big shouting at the north koreans and the north korean delegation told me did. and mr moon to to provoke handle the situation and how. to put them w

we don't want north korea. nuclear we don't want to in order to do that is there any other alternative but to be patient really wanted to be north korea while we exert pressure and to invite china to be more serious the best case scenario would be they don't have a full program they freeze it or they have a full capability that's probably not realistic and so that's why i say realistically they have a nuclear weapons program capability they have a deterrence against the united states and our allies and so we just implement you know mutual assured destruction might we have with china russia cetera the north korean government is not going to use nuclear weapons against any country in the world unless it thinks that its existence is at stake meaning there is an impending invasion. unless it responds to a false alarm such as the one in hawaii in january that would be enough to trigger disaster. at the former soviet base in ukraine staff tells us about such a terrifying incident the intelligence had once reported th

it was imposed on north korea. they're familiar with the long reach of the kim regime got so he's a photo coward is one of those monitors he tells us how the trade embargo is undermined that. will we see loopholes my question was rather where i closed the holes which was so few compared to the number of loopholes loopholes exist only china but also the washer. taiwan south east asia they have also all proteus in europe one example of arms control busting launchers for north korean ballistic missiles are based on trucks manufactured in china key. portion was imported from china in two thousand and that's no there's only twenty four all six recalls how big can fall by the you know nations they have a clear. and even had to pick a set of cajuns which show that you can see if only for fourth if this. off road trucks for use in the logging industry are not covered by sanctions so was this a willfully misleading declaration they were used in china for military purposes now so take this company. asked why more serious do

business with north korea. we're releasing new imagery of the deceptive shipping practices used by those who aid and profit from illicit trade with north korea. these images from december 2017 reveal ship-to-ship transfers of fuel and other products destined for north korea, in an attempt to evade sanctions. they shine a spotlight on the practices employed by the government of north korea to falsify identifying information on ships and conceal illicit cargo. these sanctions, evasion tactics are prohibited by u.n. security council resolutions, and we're fully committed to shutting down those who engage in trade with them. through today's actions we're putting companies and countries across the world on notice, that this administration views compliance with u.s. and u.n. sanctions as a national security imperative. those who trade with north korea do so at their own peril. the united states will leverage our economic strength to enforce president trump's directive that any company that chooses to help north korea

you can the trust was north korea therefore we are inviting north korea to. not simply because we trust north korea but because we want to build trust with north korea so to feel like maybe north korea is using the south with this olympics business to just siphon off more money and find a loophole through the sanctions. you know we can rule out the possibility but as long as north korea. you know nonproductive behavior. sure who come forward with the new condition of north korea we would welcome north korea to utilize in the winter olympics. the two korean woman's ice hockey team will become by and much to the disappointment of some of the south korean team more than thirty one thousand people have signed an online petition to the president's office asking to scrap this plan we keep saying that politics and sports shouldn't mix so how is it fair to deprive some players to the opportunity of a lifetime for pretty much politics. through to some polled element and as a matter of fact when jane opposed to the play you know for me ice hockey team the . kind of sac

regarding north korea. i cannot answer your question because i know nothing about this but we do as a rule reply to all inquiries we received by the foreign ministry. but i can provide no information on this particular matter. and to prepare first. as has been said such inquiries oncet has approved it that's a huge allegation it is indeed an allegation but from my perspective i would not say it is a serious one because i presume that if it was the president himself would have been approached or i would have been approached by the foreign ministry. and i haven't heard that that has happened. that does not amount to a clear denial the suspicion remains that germany has failed to support u.n. monitors the way it should have. it's not just small parts that have made their way into kim jong un's missiles things all kinds of goods under north korea by road done dong. the scene we know that does get delivered the question is what does it say on the paperwork for the missile components were sent to libya that were

korea. south and north korea. also coming up there once was a u.s. president who warned of the military industrial complex now the u.s. president is warning of an american loser complex and his remit the row the military parade. i think president trump sentiment is right on the sentiment is the celebrate the troops over at the soldiers and i think that's right on honestly it has reflections of the things that we the very things that we make fun of north korea for make we make fun of rocket man. oh we begin the day but the fear of a nuclear cloud hanging over the olympic flame the growing crisis over how to stop north korea's nuclear program is about to take center stage at the winter olympics across the border in south korea the players in these olympics at least for now are the politicians not the athletes u.s. vice president mike pence arrived in seoul today promising new more aggressive sanctions against north korea he met with the south korean president who is betting on the olympic spirit to bring both koreas closer to the big if she hadn't tabl

relations and what's going to happen with north korea stay with us. the stakes couldn't be higher and it's happening in syria the goal of destroying the islamic state is largely complete now the syrian proxy war is in train the new stage for the players and what are their aims and what is winning he. thought. from a solution a misplacement them. just music first thing in the both of them which is this mission monaco's a. small apartment or. a little business so up until just almost a trial of. saddam for us to gather some. serious. local blowhards telling you on the idea that dropping bombs brings police to the chicken hawks forcing you to fight the battle for. the new socks for the tell you that would be gossip and probably by itself the most important day. off after it has been telling you are not cool enough to buy their product. all the hawks that we along with our loved ones. you don't. know. if you speak french. and we're back with dr william perry a former united states to secretary perry and then there's the sanctions business despite congress

that north korea. and at this time. for the future of the two nations to bring north korea back to the dialogue table. with the united states america will continue to stand shoulder to shoulder and be a reverse of what abandon their nuclear and ballistic missile ambition to. korea. and its. military. also coming up there once was a u.s. president who warned of the military industrial complex now the u.s. president is warning of an american loser complex and his remit is the row the military parade. i think president trump sentiment is right on the sentiment is the celebrate the troops so great the soldiers and i think that's right on honestly it has reflections of the things that we the very things that we make fun of north korea for going to make you make fun of rocket man. oh we begin the day but the fear of a nuclear cloud hanging over the olympic flame the growing crisis over how to stop north korea's nuclear program is about to take center stage at the winter olympics across the border in south korea the players in

if nothing comes out of the talks between cells in the north or it in north korea and the us. i think. you know it makes it it will. become those who. who look for diplomatic solution and the tall scan confirmed that diplomacy is useless is north korea has no intention to diena cries north korea has warned both south korea and us against a resumption of annual military drills the two countries hold near the north korean borders my understanding is that they will go have its planes now will the drills i'm knol all the progress made between the two koreas at the olympics. well i'm i'm not sure where those korea has always been opposed to joint military drills i don't know how do you from they are this year. if they are desperate. to. reduce any pressure for. sanctions and military option which stand in the way of their ultimate call of nuclear armament then i think. military drills can be only a temporary. us in the road to into korean. dialogue even at the summit level. president moon was invited to visit the north and he replied to the invitation by saying that the two sides s

resolve the problem unless north korea. is willing to abandon his nuclear programs missile programs as well so paul's between us and those korea. could be even worse if north korea has no intention to denuclearize because any talks which. you know wish doesn't lead to denuclearization or in which no script confirms is intention not to did to nuke rise under any circumstances that could strengthen the hand of those in washington who advocate a military option so. if nothing comes out of the talks the ten thousand north or the ten north korea and the us. i think. you know it makes it it will. weaken those who. look for diplomatic solution and the tall scan confirms that diplomacy is useless is north korea has no intention to edina cries north korea has warned both south korea and us against a resumption of annual military drills the two countries hold near the north korean borders my understanding is that they will go haddest planes now will the drills i'm knol all the progress made between the two koreas at the olympics. wel

south korea gap in the north korea one is obvious but we're in day in who's got a background in the circle sunshine policy it believes that engaging that old difficult though it is is trying to do smartly vice president and by his own account is trying his damnedest to stop and i would be very sure to see who shakes hands with who who sits where and so on going to be a very a very difficult set of delicate a couple of days and be interesting to see to help things stand once the olympic games are over as well. in foster heart i am very night this from leeds university in england it's good to see you again thanks for being on the show thank you well away from the political posturing the athletes at the winter olympics are raring to go or some of them are at least thirteen russians have failed with appeals to the court of arbitration for sport they wanted to compete despite a doping ban on their country and additional forty seven russians will find out on friday if they can participate just as the olympic torch reaches the host city pyong check. the olympic torch his journey is almost over wi

update on the monitoring of the china-north korea the lifeline 's for north korea, which is not monitored by any international organization? >> i'm not going to comment on specifically what ability we things and what ability we don't, but i can lot ofyou that we have a capabilities. >> yesterday, prime minister as suggesting that cuts go to ax workers. what's the evidence to suggest is there flow through for workers and secondly, on sanctions, you briefed on those as well. do you expect to have strong support from australia on that? i do, i have flown the prime minister for a long period -- i have known the prime minister a long period of time. he's trying to focus on a very similar economic agenda to what we've done. he's explained to me how he's lowered the corporate tax rate on these small and medium size focused and how he's to do it on bigger companies, nd he congratulated us on our success and hopefully that will there.he success for him and we've talked about the statistic in the past. we believe that major part of burden of corporate taxes are borne by the workers and then on nort

north korea? >> i would say it is a transitional peace. president moon jae-in really want to have pyeongchang olympic peace, but his task is how to transform peaceful olympic into lasting olympic peace. >> well, is it possible because as you know, all the critics and skeptics think north korea is playing a clever propaganda game and it's getting all the attention and the world thinks it's behaving really well because it's coming to south korea. it will march under a joint flag. even your ice hockey team will be a joint team. >> yes, we understand north korean intention. north korea wanted to show that it isa normal state while having nuclear weapons. but we cannot accept it. we also know there are a lot of critics in washington who are extremely skeptical of this inter-korean thaw and also the opposition within south korea. coervative south korea have been arguing it's nothing t a show, but president moon -- presenmoon really believes that he can make a transition. >> so is president moon right in

"the ivanka trump of north korea. do they inadvertently suggest that ivanka is good for the country and a bit of a star? it wasn't on purpose, i'm sure. >> the great irony is that if this were really an analogy with ivanka trump, they would have attacked this woman. just as they have attacked everybody in the president's family. >> sean: they are nicer to the propaganda minister than the president's daughter. >> think about it. the left-wing media in the last week have supported the dictatorship of north korea, given them free propaganda. this is a regime that has labor camps, sean. >> sean: while side. thank you, both. sad but true. this gets harder every day. when we come back, ed henry has a live report on a scary situation involving president trumpde's daughter-in-law. white powder were sent to her home earlier.nu and much more as we continue straight ahead. ♪ my name is jeff sheldon, and i'm the founder of ugmonk. before shipstation it was crazy. it's great when you see a hundred orders come in, a hundred ord

on north korea but if north korea just come back to the dial the negotiation table we may know lose an hour in a sentence when north korea maybe international community may also roots in its ascension from those korea of course north korea to take a very concrete moves toward denuclearization starting with the freezing of its nuclear and missile there to these two thing you ask can decide on some kind of hostile unilateral action against north korea without consulting say well for us and what kessel did to rein in the american hocks alferez and made it very clear no more while under the korean peninsula no military action without prior consultation and agreement with us will not be accepted. the u.s. and south korea life's allies cannot take a military and sometimes they can make this its ally south korea suffer from immense collateral damages given all of these things ok we'll hoping that the u.s. would not take a military action we cannot rule out the post lead that you nice to take a military action but the united states to do expect you know who's opposition from south korea and

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my suggestion is what if north korea offered south korea the have soexpertise they that south korea wouldn't have to be afraid of north korea and that would cut the united states the deal but so what. maybe it's time for the united states to get out of everybody else's business. host: i want to give nicholas to respond.nce nicholas: obviously you're entitled to make your own and conclusions about the situation in north this country. to would certainly what you think isn't incorrect. out thatertainly point the unitedon in states is not in any way near in termsn north korea of how the people live. if you look at the economy, g.d.p., per capita, and so on. big, big differences. point that one should have -- a government should have their priorities and whether you want to spend your resources on this or that, it's ultimately a decision the administration has to make your owng care of people is one of the things that any government should do. i would just mention that the united states has very, very interest in the asia pacific and it's not realistic will just leave out a deal to hammer with th

and i wa nted action against north korea. and i wanted to find out, given that japan is the base for 50,000 us troops, and any attack on north korea would include japan, i wanted and any attack on north korea would includejapan, i wanted to ask mr kono, how others japan feel about military action against north korea? —— how does japan feel? for weeks, rumours have been swirling that the trump administration is preparing a military strike against north korea. a so—called bloody nose to force pyeongyang to the negotiating table. last month, these b2 stealth bombers arrived at a us base on the island of guam. but japan's foreign minister, tara kono, told me such speculation should not be taken seriously. a military strike on north korea is far too risky. south korea's capital, seoul, is situated just 30 kilometres from the border. and, if any military action‘s taken, the repercussion is outrageous. so i don't think anyone is seriously considering taking a military method. but, in order to get north korea to come to the d

and, younger generation who has zero connection to north korea, exempt basically north korea has been a trouble. that, you know, this, sort of a thug of a nation that threatens them. occasionally. bombs civilians. bombs south koreans, submarines. and, sort of, just neighbor, that has been causing troubles. suddenly took over the olympics. all of the attention. >> soo-yi kim, that's within of the reasons people want to bring them in. to persuade them to stop them from creating trouble you are talking about. are you surprised, disappointed, or hopeful with the apparent sort of change in vice president mike pence's position. because they came, he came, talking about, maximum keeping up the sanctions. he did not greet kim jong-un's sister. and left and told the washington pest that the united states is not opposed to direct talks with north korea. is there a contradiction? or is this the kind of diplomacy that has to be tried even by the united states? >> di policemplomacy has to be . the image we are getting has nothing to do with it. pence is acting unfriendly to north korea. at the cer

much will depend on north korea's behavior. as far as south korea's position, i think the president of south korea, president moon has been working hard, and has regard,me run in this he wanted since he became president last spring to put south korea in the so-called driver's seat. the driver seat of korean peninsula issues, and issues dealing with north korea. not to cede territory or power to mr. trump, who has inclined towards very hostile, regardingt rhetoric potential nuclear weapons, surgical strikes, military action, and even the destruction of north korea. in that sense, the two koreas are doing an interesting dance, but by no means does this mean that any substantive change has occurred. since a lot of symbolism, and not much substance. as far as the united states goes, i think mr. pence on his return from the opening ceremony in pyeongchang, he let out to reporters that the u.s. may be willing to engage in some kind of dialogue without specificity. it is unclear whether washington will warm up to the idea to talk with

and then on north korea we had a very productive discussion on north korea. he is very supportive and we've encouraged him to work with us on sanctions and other areas, so very, very productive discussion. i know he is looking for to seeing the president today. >> the 70%- dividends that goes to workers, is that all in wage growth or some other dividend? >> it's mostly in wage growth. take one or two more questions, i don't want to leave here without emphasizing -- you haven't asked me yet, we are working on russia sanctions. i can assure you that is in the process. i will be back here in the next several weeks to talk about that. emphasize,st want to i think, you know, under section 240 one we did deliver both the classified and unclassified report. and as i repeatedly said, we are recording -- we are working on sanctions as a follow-up to that. why don't we take the last question. >> [inaudible] >> we will continue to look at election meddling. i might just add we are closely working with the fbi on giving information as it relates to the recent suit and as

control in cooperation with north korea interaction with north korea and we're hoping the north korea would have or that we have in mind so why do you think korea i mean this is pretty much to first step that north korea has made two words coming together with south korea it does seem like it's the south that is making the most effort why is it more important elsewhere want to take a more leading employer can role and most of the present mood what is why he's making every effort to momentum for dialogue you told c.n.n. it was trump's tough talk that brought the north koreans to open dialogue but say all that there was some kind of a combination in which trump closed the door there for the north koreans had to turn to. enrich north korea is coming to south korea but there's some other some other regions you know which you know north korea you know come to south korea because north korea might want to have some kind of economic cooperation with the south korea or maybe you know which solon washington but south korea knows all those in no intentions of north korea but the spy or don't.

korea, your choice is this, you either keep doing business with north korea or you do business with us, you can't have it both ways, that's what i think this is going -- >> that may be. if we had done that 15 years ago that might make difference. several times that north korea is months away from being able to target thermal nuclear weapons on cities in the united states, so do we have a year for the secondary sanctions effort to proceed, i'm not sure we do. we don't have five years or ten years, that's for sure. we are down to counting on our fingers and toes, i'm afraid, how close north korea may be. paul: we should look at two-week poll day where everybody says pieces at hand and whether or not south korea goes along. >> and whether china pays attention, we have to understand that the united states will feel pain too, how are the new york banks going to warm up to that? paul: probably won't like it knowing a few new york bankers, okay, john, thank you very much, appreciate it. >> thank you. paul: when we come back a spade of fatal accidents in recent months focusing renewed atten

oil supply and other types to north korea which has led north korea to seek other ways to try to get some of that much needed fuel and western intelligence agencies have repeatedly said that one of those major ways are these ships that are making risky ship to ship transfers in the ocean and those are what is targeted in these latest sanctions. well time now for some of the other stories making news around the world multiple attacks in afghanistan have left more than twenty people dead the islamic state group says it's carried out a suicide bombing that killed at least two in kabul's diplomatic compound it followed an attack by taliban insurgents in the west that killed at least eighteen soldiers two other soldiers died in separate blasts in the south. the white house was on lockdown for an hour on friday after cost struck a security barrier according to the u.s. secret service the car did not breach the barrier the cause thirty five year old female driver however was apprehended immediately the driver reportedly has previous arrests for similar incidents near the white house. over o

never to be seen again inside of north korea. don't forget there are three americans currently being held hostage in that rogue state. the kim jong un's regime has been responsible for the recent death of american otto warmbier sentenced to hard labor for allegedly stealing a poster. millions of people are currently starving inside of north korea. roughly 30% of their population starving all while this little despot, kim jong un, lives a life of luxury and sister enjoy as prime seat at the opening games of this year's winter olympics. despite al all of all of this, the mainstream media continues to praise kim yo judge. jong. nuclear agreement north korea. good deal for american people they ever never get nukes. if you don't learn from the past you are toomed to repeat it that's why the media is a sad and despicable record. speaking of bad plans, remember the plane loads of 1.7 billion in dollars in cash and other currency fs the obama administration stereotypedly gave the iranian mullen las chanting gte to america and tehran? now

in response to these reports that north korea is now a p pa re ntly reports that north korea is now apparently willing to talk, the white house has been playing hardball, you might say. it issued a statement basically saying that north korea's abandonment of its nuclear programme must be the result of any nuclear programme must be the result ofany us nuclear programme must be the result of any us dialogue with north korea. there are those who would argue that thatis there are those who would argue that that is not the united states closing the door completely to any notion of talks with north korea. it is basically making the point that denuclearization has to be a central issue going into those talks. it is pretty clear, i think, that talks may or may not happen, but as sanctions remain as far as the us is concerned, all the time until north korea goes ahead and scrap its nuclear weapons. something it has long vowed it is not going to do. that is right, david. also we know this comes after the north koreans accused the us of an act of warforfresh north koreans accused the us of an act of war