said he wants complete denuclearization. >> again, we are not saying we are not going to have a discussion. i am for engagement and dialogue. he coulden have -- even ask for a grand bargain. denuclearization. i do you think that one important issue have not come up, and we came up a little bit. really impossible to verify. i worked in the intelligence community. we don't of how many weapons they have, and we don't know where they are. there are so many covert facilities and underground tunnels, and it will be hard to verify. the is why i am saying -- definition has been used by pompeo today, and that is what we are thinking is an unrealistic goal. >> it might be easier to verify if you can have people in there, looking around. sue mi: all over north korea. >> we will not get that unless we have a negotiation. we cannot say at this point that we will never be able to find it and it is not going to work. you have to have the discussions, and you have to have the people in there, and you don't have that right now. >> this is an essential point. in our opening statements, we called

. >> now, scholars debate whether or not negotiations with north korea can need to denuclearization. intelligence squared u.s. and the new yorker hosted this event. it is two hours. >> i know that some of you are regular fans of intelligence squared u.s. including the gentleman -- there you are. it is great to have you. you have been to our events in new york at now you are here. for those of you that are newcomers, i want to share a couple of things about what we are doing and our delight in being in partnership with the georgetown women's forum, this first ever run at a georgetown women's forum event intelligence squared u.s. was founded about 11 years ago. we have done 150 debates. our goal is to enhance and raise the level of public discourse by showing there is in fact good argument and argument can shed light when it is done well. to get it done well, these debaters are here with the express purpose to persuade you to vote for their side. we'll have you vote now to see where you stand on this motion as you come off the street. they are trying to appeal to you, so we ask you to

their stated goal of complete denuclearization. today, foreign minister kang and i discussed the summit and the bold steps president trump is about to take when he meets with chairman ken. -- chairman kim. we would not be here today without the coordination of president trump and president moon. we want to achieve the verifiable and irreversible denuclearization of the korean peninsula. there is a future brimming with peace and prosperity for north korea and the north korean people. america's track record of support for the korean people is second to none. takes bold action to quickly denuclearize, the united states is prepared to work with north korea to achieve prosperity on par with our south korean friends. united states look for to continue" ration with our south korean allies on this issue and many others. foreign minister, thank you for being with me today, it was a pleasure to work with you. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary, for the warm welcome. let me reiterate my congratulations on your becoming the top diplomat of the united states at this historic moment. secretary, pa

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. denuclearization, peace, hand-in-hand with some kind of a phased reciprocal plan of action. but the end goal will be clear. kim jong-un will promise denuclearization and president trump will promise peace and i think we will get that outcome. we will get the good bad outcome. why is it a bad outcome? because none of the details will be agreed on. what it necessarily means. for instance, south korea is a nuclear power country and if we are going to denuclearize the korean peninsula, do south korea have to up nuclear power? i don't think so. does that mean that north korea is entitled to nuclear power? if so, under what circumstances? the devil is in the details here and that's whether is a risk of a bad bad outcome that would be making --y the smit breaking down and trump agreeing to maximum pressure and there is the risk of a catastrophic outcome, if the summit breaks down quickly, trump leaves and a half and launches a preemptive military strike against north korea a month later. aiming forshould be the good bad outcome, setting in motion a process that hopefully won't break down before nov

to denuclearize north korea. and north korea's nuclear development. united states pays more attention to the denuclearization. president trump is working on that. we can say it was also a trump factor. the negotiations, it is difficult to induce north korea into the negotiation table. it certainly works. many of my friends did not want to listen. trump is something different. is the truth. kim jong-un seems to have a dramatic change possible. see the outcome of summit.rea of the u.s. introduce the policies. so, let me skip. if somebody wants this, i can provide it later. so. >> ok. thank you. more.e 20 seconds thank you. parts in three main the north korea summit. improvementdramatic and development of the relationship between north and south korea. the second party, the removal of the measures. ok. -- we have to pay north korea's changing arguments , or announcement. they changed it to a little bit different. this is important. the tacticsmay take met president clinton. so, we carefully watch over -- they are changing vocabularies. i do not think it is a mistake. they are showing the

we've cultivated partnerships with the republic of korea, not just on security and denuclearization issues, but also on other issues like tech, energy and trade. last september, we recognized president moon jae-in at our global citizen awards dinner with his brave, open-minded meeting with kim jong-un just last friday and the past few months, he has done more to shepherd peace and security on the korean peninsula. last december here in this room, then secretary of state rex tillerson and secretary of commerce wilbur ross spoke of diplomatic and economic importance of the u.s., r.o.k. partnership and we released a report on u.s., r.o.k. for the the fourth industrial revolution. i mention all this because our asia programs work demonstrate so clearly have a u. -- how the r.o.k. alliance exemplifies international cooperation at its best. let's not forget if peace does come to the peninsula, it will not be because of the confluence of military interests. it will be because of the strength of this longstanding partnership deeply rooted in every aspect of person and political life and the

denuclearization through talks in exchange for a meeting with president trump, this president readily said yes. they asked for the meeting and we continue to be open to it, but rest assured that the united states will continue on the path that we are on because this president has made it clear that we will not tolerate north korea possessing nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles that threaten the united states and our allies. >> martha: is that process of denuclearization something that could happen over time in stage stages? >> with the president has made clear is that we need complete and verifiable and irreversible denuclearization and there's opportunities and benefits for north korea once we reach that point of no return. once we reach the point where as they dismantle their nuclear weapons program with proper verification and full transparency that then president trump has already organized support from japan, from south korea, from other nations in the region including china to organize the resources that would create a brighter future for the kim regime, a brighter future more importa

what each side believes to be denuclearization, president trump has said it means they get rid of their weapons, end of story. the north koreans have said it's denuclearization, generally believed to mean comprehensive global denuclearization. some have said it will be a disaster if president trump goes there and expects all maximalist position to win. can i play a couple sound bites from real experts as to the potential differing opinions over denuclearization? first wendy sherman, the former negotiator. >> it means quite a diffent thing than i think the president of thenited states believes it means. and i don't think for one moment at least at this point that kim jong-un expects to destroy his nuclear weapons. i think he's looking for a very different kind of denuclearization. >> so, do you think that when he talks about denuclearization, that he is prepared under the right circumstances to dismantle, to give up his nuclear weapons? >> i don't believe it at all. the most important thing for kim jong-un right now is to be accepted as the leader of nuclear state. so, that is his

denuclearization on the korean peninsula and world peace. all this was possible because of you, mr. president. and i have no doubt that you will be able to complete, accomplish a historic feat that no one had been able to achieve in the decades past. >> we will unpick those seemingly different emphasis there, but both pyongyang and washington are now moving the ball down the field. foreign journalists have been invited into north korea to witness the dismantling of the nuclear test site which was scheduled for this week. we will wait to see whether that happens, while the white house preemptively minted a new coin showing president trump and kim jong-un alongside the words "peace talks." so which will it be? good evening, and welcome to the program. >> good to be here. thank you. >> can we first unpick the two seemingly different, you know, tones from both presidents sitting there in the oval office. very optimistic, very flattering words from president moon of south korea, and slightly more skeptical from president trump. >> yes. i think, you know, we've seen this before, and really the prob

strong sense of urgency to denuclearize north korea and also north korea's nuclear development, very close to threatening the u.s. continent. united states paid more special attention to the denuclearization of north korea. trump is working on that quite seriously. if we just follow the conventional ways of negotiations, it's quite difficult to induce north korea into the negotiation table. the trump factor, i think, certainly works. even though many of my friends did not want to listen. trump is something different. no matter whether we like him or not, this is kind of true. also as i mentioned, it is heavy stress. kim jong seems to have a dramatic change possible. he kept his cards in his pocket, so we will have to see the outcome of the north korean and u.s. summit. let me introduce moon jae-in's policies. if somebody wants these documents, i will provide them later. thank you. give me 20 seconds more. water. thank you. there are three main parts in the south-north korean summit. first part is comprehensive and germanic improvement and development of our relationship with so

president in at the end of april in which the two pledged to work for the complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. north korean state television carried the news saying that all of the tunnels at the site would be collapsed and the entrances blocked it also announced that foreign media would be invited to cover the event. however some analysts have said that the closure of the site doesn't prove kim jong un renewed plans to denuclearize and so far north korea has not responded to pools to that independent experts verify the shutdown. skeptics have pointed to the destruction of the young people and nuclear complex by kim jong un's father ten years ago the cooling tower of the plant was blown up in front of foreign t.v. camera teams and failing to specialise for the occasion. the nuclear activities at the side however continued. let's bring in correspondent jason strother joining us from the south korean capital seoul for more jason looking at the deception of the past we just saw there is what's coming up all spectacle and no substance oh well brian i think the fact that north kor

u.s. and north korean leaders would have a pivotal role in promoting the denuclearization process in the present situation we really hope that the united states and north korea can cherish the recent positive progress exercised patients show goodwill and meet each other halfway and can continue to be dedicated to solving each other's concerns three talks and to work together to promote the denuclearization process the soko china saying that they are hopeful that a summits can still take place that the progress that's been made in the last few weeks and months can be built upon what role do you see china playing now were it disappointing in time china really remains on very strong backer of wealth korea desist a country in general and tools to is it just a destination is always first member state visit since taking power in china has joined tremendous support for the korean regime throughout this process despite the fact that it has said some very difficult relationships with kim jong un's because kim jong un was proceeding with the nuclear program south korean government certainly ha

and agree to the basic principles, denuclearization and piece, hand-in-hand, in some kind of a phase reciprocal plan of action at the end goal will be clear. kim jong-un were promised denuclearization and president trump will promise piece. piece. i think we'll get that outcome. i think we will get the good that outcome. why is it about outcome? none of the details of the nucleation are going to be agreed. not even necessarily a full definition of what denuclearization means because i'm for instance, south is nuclear power country. if we're going to denuclearize the green peninsula does that mean south korea has to give up nuclear power? i don't think so. does that mean north korea's and thompson nuclear power? if so, under what circumstances. the devil is in the detail here, and that's why there's a risk of a bad, bad outcome which would be essentially the summit breaking down and troll agreeing back to maximum pressure here and there is risk of a outcome, which is the summit breaks down quickly, trump leads in a half and launches printed notice fight against north korea a month lat

security adviser suggested denuclearization might be that from libya. that received a walk back from president trump himself several days later after receiving intense criticism from north korea. we then heard there could be an alternative route several days ago that they would try outside international investment to build up infrastructure in north korea with respect to getting them to disarm. intenseragile into negotiation with north korea that ultimately now produced. you also have a situation where north korea, u.s. officials delaying this might not be a bad thing as a framework of any type of nuclear disarmament deal continues to get discussed. again, just noting secretary of state mike pompeo speaking earlier this week. to stop its nuclear ambitions, back to square one is what it looks like. >> yes. be a negotiating tactic? >> absolutely. anald trump consider sums of great negotiator and this might be of in his mind. donald trump earlier this week cap made a suggestion that china might have relaxed some of the helpions put in place and north korea economically and i think that

irreversible denuclearization of the korean peninsula. president trump has also made it clear that if kim jong-un anuclearizes, there is brighter path for north korea. we think, working together, the people of the united states and north korea can create a future defined by friendship and collaboration. we sincerely hope -- not by mistrust and fear. we sincerely hope that chairman kim jong-un shares this positive vision of the future. withe summit proceeds, their eyes wide open and a clear understanding of the future if , these talks are successful, it will truly be historic, it will take bold leadership from chairman kim jong-un if we are to seize this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to change the course for the world. president trump and i believe chairman kim is the kind of leader who can make those decisions. and in the coming weeks and months, we will have the opportunity to test whether or not this is the case. i'm happy to take questions. >> our first question goes to nick from bloomberg. go ahead. >> thanks mr. secretary. ,last night, the state department told us that the u.s. woul

, verifiable and irreversible denuclearization of the korean peninsula. president trump has made it clear that if kim jong-un nook rises there is a brighter path for north korea. -- if kim jong-un denuclearize s there is a brighter path for north korea. the people of the united states and north korea can create a future of friendship and collaboration, not mistrust and fear and threats. chairman kimhope jong-un shares this positive vision for the future. we expect both leaders to enter the summit in a singapore and proceed with eyes open and with a clear understanding of the possibilities of the future. successful,ks are it will be historic. towill take bold leadership seize this once in a lifetime leadership opportunity to change the course of the world. president trump and i believe kim is the kind of leader who can make those decisions and in the coming weeks and months, we will have the opportunity to test whether this is the case. i am happy to take questions. our first question is from bloomberg. >> thank you. last night, the state department told us the u.s. would be looking for a histo

an intensive diplomatic effort and i hope it will result in complete denuclearization and permanent peace in the korean peninsula and beyond. ever since the pongchange winter olympics it's rushed to this moment. about a week ago, my president met with the north korean leader for a highly anticipated assignment and we don't know exactly, but i hope in a few weeks president trump will meet kim jong-un face-to-face. and the first was a success. leaders adopted the declaration and the complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. they also expressed the end the korean war and peace on the korean peninsula. and it was the first time that both leaders expressly addressed the nuclear issue. for the two leaders to express a common goal for a denuclear korea is a major achievement. you may remember how as recently as last december our focus was on stopping the north korean provocations and to bring them to dialog. where do we stand now? the north korea, korean leader pledged to discontinue all nuclear and icbm tests. the president of the united states is preparing to sit down with the n

together to accomplish the common goal of complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. it's commencement season and the president and first lady would like to embassy tend a special graduation, bob graduated from the university of toledo this month after review of his transcripts from the late 1940s, showed he completed enough courses to qualify for an associates degree. his hard working diligence and passion to learn exemplified the greatest generation's commitment to excellent and as you know, the president answered questions earlier and as a result we'll keep this short and lets get started. jonathan. >> reporter: do you agree with the south korean official who say there would be a 99% chance that the summit with kim jong un comes off? and how will the president ultimately make the decision about whether or not to go? >> the president addressed this earlier directly to you and said that we'll see what happens. we continue to prepare for for the summit and if they want to meet we will certainly be ready and the president i think rightly stated that if north korea agrees to

denuclearize. is there a political will on the north korean side to denuclearize and on the u.s. side, is their political will to do the things we need to do? david: the use of the word, denuclearize, is a problem. to echo what frank said, hill,row church certainly with the april north-south meeting and the context, i think it is a good thing. regardless of what happens on june 12, whatever the outcome is, the idea that we are talking is a good thing. jong-un isk that kim getting just what he wants. he is arriving on the world stage. that april meeting, he turned out to be a media savvy operator. opinions, a lot of particularly in the south, and how he handled himself, both he and president moon. they orchestrated the best made-for-tv diplomatic event. will north korea dismantle nuclear weapons programs? your guess is as good as mine. everything we have studied up until this point, we believe that north korea's nuclear program is key to the regime's survival, key to blackmail diplomacy. it is hard to see whether it will give up the nuclear program for anything. it is really impo

suspend the ballistic testing and be willing to achieve complete denuclearization through talks in exchange with a meeting for president trump this president readily said yes. they asked for the meeting and we continue to be open to it. >> martha: i'm martha maccallum and this is "the story." >>> it is clear that a sequence of events and break downs in the discussion over the recent days including that comment which led to the discharging remarks led tie decision -- led to the decision. the president cite the tremendous anger and open hostility from north korea as cause nor cancellation -- for the cancellation and they said they were put off by this comment. >> as the president made clear, this will only end like the libya model ended if kim jong-un doesn't make a deal. >> people think that's a threat. >> i think it's more of a fact. president trump made it clear the united states of america under his leadership will not tolerate the regime of north korea possessing nuclear weapons that threaten the united states and allie. >> martha: that lines up with the prior statements from th

week. >> we can be successful in the denuclearization of the korean peninsula and a great thing for north america and north korea and great for japan and the rest of the world. it's moving along very nicely, so we are looking at june 12th in singapore. that hasn't changed. >> and overnight, the president of south korea speaking about second summit with north korea and one caveat. matt rivers is live in seoul, south korea. >> they are seeking that the united states will not have a regime of -- it's important to point out here what kim jong-un is agreeing to is denuclearization of the entire korean peninsula. he is not agree to go unilaterally give up his flenucr weapons. when they talk about denuclearization of the korean peninsula it means that the u.s. military presence in south korea will be removed. the north koreans have looked at that as a nuclear threat so they are not commit to go unilaterally giving up their own weapons. they are not committing to disarming merely on their own. there are other things involved when the north koreans define denuclearization, but that is the ki

interesting because the order was improving korean relations, the summit and then denuclearization was last, kind of reverse order. when you look at the denuclearization part which is where we don't quite have an agreement on what that means, obvious from his perspective denuclearization is complete, verifiable, reversible, disarmament of the north korea nuclear program. .. perhaps, if there is an end of u.s. troops, getting out of south korea. if there is end of extended nuclear umbrella the u.s. has over south korea and japan. that is way they feel secure. we give them security. we will talk about nuclear denuclearization. i think the south koreans are saying, that is not clear until we sit down, until p president trump sit downs with kim jong-un. there is past pledges and declarations. there is 1972. 1992, there is 2007. there is not overly new. i say there are more questions raised about what is going to happen with trump and kim summit there are several scenarios i can i think, that we can look at. i think the first scenario obviously is, the sort of the tough scenario. if preside

denuclearization of the korean peninsula. if chairman can choose is the right path, there is a future brimming with peace and prop prosperity for the north korean people. america's track record of support for the korean people is second-to-none. if north korea takes bold action to quickly denuclearize the united states' work, the united states looks forward to close cooperation with our south korean allies on this issue and many others. foreign minister, thank you for being with us today. it was a pleasure to work with you. >> thank you very much mr. secretary for the very warm welcome. let me reiterate my congratulations on you becoming the top diplomat of the united states at this historic moment. secretary pompeo, you have already been at the center of our joint efforts on north korea, and i very much look forward to working closely with you. we spoke on april 28, right after the momentous inter-korean summit. and we spoke moments after his return. during our meeting, i congratulated him and president trump for the successful release of the three u.s. citizens, all korean american,

has renewed its intention for complete denuclearization. great to have all of you with us. ambassador hill, if i may begin with you. what's the job of the u.s. officials who are now inside north korea and those who are also headed to singapore? explain to us the difference between those two teams right now. >> first of all, both teams are involved in preparing for the summit, but the team going to singapore is preparing for the logistics of the summit and the team going to pyongyang led by ambassador song kim is there to talk to the north koreans and see what's substantly is going to come out of this summit. if they have said these things to the south koreans, they should see them to the u.s. delegation, and perhaps even they could get something in wright and have a clear understanding before the summit beginsp, whether the summit will be successful. i worked with song kim for seven years. he was my deputy in the six-party talks. fabulous diplomat. i mean, he's professional, smart, very loyal, and i just am very pleased to see professionals leading the way, so as our president would s

we can be successful in the denuclearization of the korean peninsula, 11 people are working on it. it is moving along very nicely so we are looking at june 12 in singapore.it has not changed. it is moving along pretty well. we will see what happens. >> on capitol hill, there seems to be a fair amount of skepticism this past week. some lawmakers say more preparations need to go into this meeting. >> right of the north korean playbook. in three generations of the playbook, act like you want to negotiate and come up with something outlandish of what it means and try to wind up with early benefits to your side and not following through on what you agreed to do. there needs to be a strong understanding of what both sides, what all three sides, frankly, mean by denuclearization. >> is up for the north korea has given up a number of american prisoners as a confidence measure but let's be clear, 24, north korea under kim jong-un his father committed to full denuclearization in six party talks in 2005 and 2007 senator blunt just reference only to then change their tune. >> .other members of th

denuclearization. that's big news if it's true. president trump said tonight he's still aiming for the june 12 sit-down with kim. but earlier i spoke with white house press secretary sarah sanders about north korea and the latest on what the president refers to as spygate. so much happened this week, and we are in the middle of this free-floating situation with north korea. i know the president said he was pulling out of the summit but left the door open. north korea seems to be trying to crawl back in. but things are changing every minute. what insight can you give us? >> this an evolving situation. the president was extremely clear when he wrote in his letter to leader kim earlier this week and laid out the things he would want to see. the dialogue that matters most of is at the very highest level. when they want to get serious about having this meeting and these conversations. the dialogue will need to be between the two individual. we are continuing to prepare as the president has said within the last few hours. certainly we'll see what happens. we think this would and good thing for th

really nonnegotiable? >> i think the denuclearization is at the core of it. not just the nuclear weapons. north korea has agreed many times to give up the uranium enrichment and plu tone youm reprocessing capabilities. we have to look at chemical and biological weapons. there are a range of things to discuss. so that is really whether kim jong-un will come through on this. it's the reason why the president is optimistic and realistic at the same time. >> let's go back to those terms. permanent. verifiable, and irreversible denuclearization of the korean peninsula. that's what has to happen? >> yes. before the benefits start to flow. i think the objective for north korea is to see if they want to become a normal nation. >> the benefit, you say, before the benefits have to flow. we would give them nothing until all of this has happened? not just beginning it? >> we want to see the denuclearization process so completely under way that it's irreversible. >> what does that look like? >> i think the implementation of the decision means getting rid of the nuclear weapons. dismantling th

, what concerns him most of all is not the issue of denuclearization, but it's the issue of trust. he's worried that he cannot trust the united states to guarantee the security of his rule after he denuclearizes. if you like the fate of corn gadhafi is at the back of kim jong-un's mind. he gave up the program. he was murdered by a mob after a nato bombing. we've heard that before, but this is almost from kim jong-un himself as reported by president moon. moon also said it was kim jong-un who asked for this surprise summit. he said kim is committed to sitting down with president trump, also committed to denuclearization. he wants a successful summit. and north korean state media says that kim is fixed on this summit. he said that there would be more talks between north and south on friday. china within the last few hours also saying it wants a successful summit. it says direct talks between president trump and kim jong-un are crucial and as you heard, trump himself, who on thursday, canceled the meeting now talks as if that cancellation never really happened. he says things are goi

part of it. will be when we denuclearize that entire peninsula. this is what people have been waiting for for a long time. nobody thought we can be on this track in terms of speed. so i'm very honored. to have helped the three folks. they're great people. i got to speak to them on the plane. they're fwraet people. they have been through a lot. but it's a great honor. the true honor is going to be if we have a victory in getting rid of the nuclear weapons. no, not at all. we very much appreciate that he allowed them to go before the meeting. it was understood that we would be able to get these three terrific people during the meeting and bring them home after the meeting. he was nice in letting them dpo before the meeting. frankly, we didn't think this was going to happen. and it did. so, we're ahead. it was a very important thing to all of us. to be able to get these three great people out. and i must tell you i want to pay my warmest respects to the parents of otto. a great young man who really suffered. and his parents have become friends of ours. they are spectacular people. and i

carryover if necessary. best outcome would be an agreement for complete and total denuclearize asian -- denuclearize asian. denuclearization. but i'm not going to get ahead of those conversations. reporter: do you think i can happen in one day? secretary azar: again, i'm not -- ms. sanders: again, i'm not going to get ahead of those conversations but there have been conversations leading up to the meeting and secretary pompeo has had two meetings leading up to this process. so it is not just one day. you have a look at the broader picture, but certainly we have the time set aside at this point. reporter: i want to ask about the meeting earlier today. does the president agree with their position? agreede administration to open negotiations with california? ms. sanders: we haven't finalized what that looks like, but today was part of the conversation on how best to move forward. to continue these conversations and if we have a specific policy announcement we will a you know. reporter: coming back to north korea, the president says he believes it is kim jong-un's attention to denucleari

the denuclearization issue. i still have my doubts whether the north koreans are going to move forward on full denuclearization. maybe step by step, we'll see. >> have you actually sat down for a meeting with kim yong-chol the former foekinorth korean sp chief who is on his way to new york right now? >> i've never met kim jung-un, but i'm fairly certain i met the spy chief in 2007 when i negotiated the remains of our soldiers, seven came back. i'm pretty sure he was in the meeting. he was then an associate of kim jung-un's father. he was close to him. but now he has major power. and the fact that he is coming in possibly meeting with secretary of state pompeo is a good sign that the north koreans are serious about negotiating. whether they go the full denuclearization, i still have my doubts. >> let's get liz's assessment. what do you think? all of a sudden there is a lot of activity going on now in new york, in singapore clearly along the demilitarized zone, in pyongyang. good, bad, what do you think? >> i agree with governor richardson that what is good is that a process has begun ab

insisting that north korea must commit to the quick denuclearization of the korean peninsula. who would bet on how this is going to turn out? n sopel, bbc news, washington.ni raa brief time ago i discussed the prospect of future summits with a former u.s. ambassador to the un., bill richardson, who has been on multiple diplomatic missions to north korea. inanks very much for comin one minute the summit is off and now we are getting indications it could be back on. as someone who has extensive experience dealing with no dh korea, wheyou see things? mr. richardson: first of all, there is a trump roller coaster foreign policy. and the north koreans, they want this summit badly. they know they may have overplayed their hand with their rhetoric, with their insults. but that is how they operate.i ink the summit will happen. i don't think it will be june 12. but shortly thereafter. but i think the positive lining that both sides will now assess the reality of what the summitg. might br the u.s. has had too many high expectations about denuclearization. the north koreans know that they ar

mediator role in resolving this north korea issue and the denuclearization process? >> i have great confidence in your president. i think that he's brought a different perspective to the talks with north korea. he wants to be able to make a deal. now, you've had some very hardline administrations, and you have president moon, and you've had others before president moon, who also had more or less this attitude. i think he's a very capable person. i think he's an extremely competent man. i think he's a very good person. and i think he wants to have what's good for the korean peninsula, not just north or south, for the entire korean peninsula. so i have tremendous confidence in president moon. and i think that his way, the way he is, really is helping us to potentially make a deal. whether the deal gets made or not, who knows. it's a deal. who knows. you never know about deals. if you go into deals that are 100% certain, it doesn't happen. if you go into deals that have no chance, and it happens, and sometimes happens easily. i've made a lot of deals. i know deals, i think, better than

will be -- this is a part of it -- but when we denuclearize the entire peninsula. this is what we have beenin wafor for a long time. no one thought we could be on this track in terms of speed. i am very honored to help the three folks. nick: this was a made-for-television moment, but the white house quickly turned it into cinema. slow-motion footage, rousing hollywood-style music. the former reality tv star claimed this must've set the all-time record for ratings at 3:00n the morning. north korea's state broadcaster did not show that nd of panache, but these are remarkable pictures nonetheless. kim jong-un meeting secretary of state mike pompeo. leader mocked as little rocket man enjoying a lighter moment with the american ahead of the summit with trump. vice president mike pence has expectations.out u.s. vice president pence: the president senses an opening that may result in an historic agreement. h what kim jong- said publicly and in discussions is that he is prepared to negotiate th achieve complete denuclearization okorean peninsula. nick: so the north korean leader's securit

reporters that kim committed to a summit with trump and to complete denuclearization, a key prerequisite for talks. but lawmakers on capitol hill expressing skepticism. >> i remain convinced that he does not want to denuclearize. in fact, he will not denuclearize. but he wants to give off this perception that he is an open leader that is peaceful, reasonable. >> i think north koreans realize total denuclearization on their part is not in their national interest. that's how they see it. >> reporter: in a sign of uncertainty about the summit's future, president trump going after the "new york times" sunday for quoting a white house official who said holding the summit june 12th, as previously planned, would be impossible due to timing restrictions. the president insisting the official doesn't exist and is a phony source. buff it happened during a formal briefing organized by the white house that dozens of reporters attended. the only reason the remark wasn't on the record is at the white house's insist answer. the comment was later confirmed in audio posted online. president t

. secretary of state mike pompeo talks denuclearization during a steak dinner with kim jong un's right-hand man was what does this signal for the singapore summit? a touching moment as donald trump keeps his promise to terminally ill americans. why does the social party of compassion try to derail the right to try bill? "fox and friends first" starts right now. ♪ >> good morning, shaping up to be a beautiful day in new york city as the lights come on across the country. thank you for joining us on this thursday. let's get straight to our top story, another busy day, the white house moving full steam ahead for a high-stakes summit with kim jong un. mike pompeo preparing for a day of critical meetings with a top north korean official on the heels of a working dinner last night. allison barber with what we can expect. it is going to be a big day. >> that lasted 90 minutes according to a state department official, the secretary posting photos on his twitter account calling it a, quote, good working dinner. the pair are expected to meet again today, related to the potential summit b

denuclearization. will that be on the agenda? will total denuclearization be on the agenda? what do we expect the parties to talk about? jean: that is what is so difficult in the days ahead, the hard work the negotiators are engaged in right now. now that we know they want to have the summit, that is not the surprise. what they will discuss is a different issue. the north koreans will discuss it piece -- a peace treaty. the americans will want to discuss denuclearization. what they mean is different on the north korean side versus the u.s. side. the north korean seven clear that what they are talking about is the complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. that means they want the americans to give up their nuclear assets in the region as well. that is going to be a very tough discussion. that is why i am a little uncertain about predicting with 100% sure miss this will happen. -- sureness this will happen. david: you say there is a difference on viewpoint of what denuclearization means and whether this is staged or all in one shot. haveresident's advisers said we need to see it