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joining us from philadelphia joe watkins a republican political strategist in new york lincoln mitchell a political analyst and in mount dora florida by skype david ward a retired border patrol agent welcome to will let's start with joe than the scenes have been harrowing haven't they do you think they'll prompt congress into action and find a solution well clearly this is a midterm election year in the united states and so every seat in the congress that is the u.s. house of representatives is up for reelection and many u.s. senate seats are up for reelection as well so congress may feel some pressure to do something because some of the seats may be affected by how they stand this issue although i'm doubtful that anybody would lose their seat over this issue although it's right now dominating the news lindsey graham only reason have to lose this seat have. you explain that part to us joe there's often a lot of skepticism and pessimism about whether a congressman wants to quote unquote take a risk to try and fix this why well because members of congress want to keep their seats

abraham lincoln and george washington. i think many esidents in fact have written poetry including grant i will not -- list them all but of course presidents have had poet. and famously robert frost, miya angelou, and the mellon foundation robert i don't thank you did? and i don't remember and did not think that at the poet at the inauguration although we know it was the biggest crowd ever. [laughter] but no poet. and when jfk was the center men that could be true. but what we do know is that many presidents have consciously used alliteration oradence to get people's attention. so each of our panelists will speak for less than ten minutes and then help them but i doubt they will need much help to have a conversation with each other and after they do that for a while we will have q&a from the audience so the order will be i will a robert pinsky who is a poet talk about civic matters and citizenship and then i will turn to david litt and t ted was a speechwriter for president bush the first and then of course senior speechwriter for barack obama. i have to put in a plug to northweste

conversation back to reality makes six are we ok let me give lincoln a chance to weigh in go ahead. i mean i'm going to say something i never say but lindsey graham is right this policy of separating children from the parents has not been going on for years it started a couple months ago and i really just started a couple months ago is because the because the trumpet miniature version or not would you know what i call my go to separate bill now you can add all ok how are we doing all day without him based or job you're having as your sentence and we'll work on the border you david go hunting international television the best you can with this did you ever do my job come on let's have a conversation here like thoughtful adults for goodness sake we started doing this two months ago because the trumpet ministration wanted to that's not a controversial statement that's not a partisan statement that's reality yes it is true that the republican party that controls both houses of congress and the white house could pass a bunch of laws to address immigration reform and you're right they don't seem to

republicans, known as the antislavery party, nominate abraham lincoln, an obscure country lawyer, to run for president on a promise to stop the spread of slavery. >> abraham? what is it? >> we are elected. >> it's true? >> yes, it's true. >> even though lincoln doesn't intend to eliminate slavery where it already exists, slaveholders still consider him an abolitionist. >> you get some sleep. tomorrow will be a busy day. >> after his election, southern states begin seceding from the union, and though the lost cause revisionists claim states's rights as the confederate cause for secession, there is no mistaking which specific right they are most concerned about. >> the southern states that secede -- they held their conventions. then they issued their ordinance of secession. and it is very clear that that issue that causes this political collision is slavery. [ all singing indistinctly ] >> the new confederate states of america choose former senator jefferson davis as their president and georgia congressman alexander stephens as vice president. [ cheers and applause ] >> the negro is no

force the issue i can see lincoln still shaking his head gentlemen time has flown unfortunately we find the most for us and discuss on this spot in the fred we are out of time that's thank contest then joe watkins lincoln mitchell and david ward. you can see the show again any time by visiting our website. the discussion. page. story join the. i'm sam is a dam in dar with a look at the headlines here now just syria pro-government forces say they've taken control of her davis airport but the fighting continues the enemy army is also blocking the road between her day the province and the capital this would cut supply lines and stop reinforcements from the who through stronghold santa simon may burn is a lecturer in international relations of the middle east at lancaster university he says the fighting in her data is going to have a massive impact on the country. i fear it's just a matter of time before the city falls and before we see an escalation of violence and casualties and devastation in the city itself if you look at the makeup of the forces and and the real strength of the sa

ite and a bc news and "lincoln's last trial" the murder case that propelled him to the presidency. how unusual is it for someone to sue their former attorney and for their new attorney to sue the former attorney for, i guess, i don't know, dereliction of duty? >> people do sue their former attorneys. the problem is this particular case seems like a bit of a dud. really what avenatti is saying her former attorney and michael cohen were in cahoots together. and he wasn't representing her interests and together they were working against her. >> let me just read some texts that seem to prove that point, or at least raise suspicion about that. here's some texts that are between keith davidson and michael cohen. here it is. this is about stormy daniels. from cohen to davidson. i have her tentatively scheduled for hannity tonight. comey, after your trial. davidson, stormy daniels's attorney said she can't do today. i'm trying to get her to commit for tomorrow. cohen writes back. it's really important? why? an hour later, cohen frustrated writes back. this is no good. we need her boy tomo

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biography of abraham lincoln, what do you think abraham lincoln was doing the last 30 minutes before he delivered the gettysburg address, a speech that still lives with us -- what did the greeks always say? the most important, three things were before you deliver any great speech? moisturizer, moisturizer, moisturizer. this guy has his priorities straight. it goes back to the great greek poets, proven again by lincoln, now once again proven by the great scott pruitt. >> let's be clear, this isn't just any moisturizer. the paper says on one occasion, pruitt directed agents to drive him to multiple locations in search of a particular lotion offered at ritz-carlton hotels. the "daily beast" is reporting on pruitt's habit of sending subordinates to fetch him his favorite junk and health foods. the site cites four different staffers sent to get protein bars, cookies, greek yogurt and other stuff. the source say pruitt is fond of finger food from dean and delucca and particular with his coffee. directing aides to brew him pour-over coffee. the continued onslaught of revelations about pruitt's

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. >> let's switch gears here. we wt ot ta toalboabok ck alled "lincoln's last trial." case th propelled him to the presidency. so it's based on the only transcript that exists of any case that lincoln argued. it's kind of hard to believe that there is only one transcript. he had a 25-year career as an attorney. >> and it's a fascinating murder trial. self-defense. the reason it's the only transcript that ever existed of a lincoln trial is because transcripts weren't made back then of trials. this was at the end of his career. nine months before he got the republican nomination. people had just started transcribing "stuff." and when i say stuff, the person who transcribed this trial transcribed the lincoln-douglas debates for lincoln. they had to create their own form of shorthand in order to do it. this was the only trial transcribed from beginning to end that lincoln argued. >> it got found in a garage. >> in a garage of the great-grandson of the defendant in 1989. it's become a footnote of has really focused on this really compelling murder trial when we have lincoln's own w

. >> he's a good kid. he's a kind kid. he's got a great heart. >> reporter: that's how lincoln minor describes his son. but on monday, 29-year-old alex minor of walnut creek was arrested in washington, d.c. after trying to scale the fence in front of the white house. a tourist captured the arrest on camera. according to charging documents, alex minor told investigators president trump was the anti-christ and he had hoped to make his way into the oval office and slap president trump in the face. >> if he really wanted to harm the president, he think he probably would have, you know, gotten a weapon. he didn't have one. >> reporter: lincoln minor says his son is a marine veteran who served on the front lines of afghanistan and has never been the same since. he has served our country. >> yes, he served our country and he came back not quite the way he went. i know he's not who he was. and i don't think it's his fault. >> reporter: minor says he's been trying to get help for his son for years. but like so many families of the mentally ill, couldn't force him. >> he's got some serious con

when he did. unlike abraham lincoln he didn't have to deal with the secession of 7 states during appear go between his election it is inauguration. unlike richard nixon he did not inherit a war in which more than half 1 million american soldiers were bogged down. unlike franken roosevelt and barack obama he didn't take the oath of office in the midst of a massive financial crisis. although the world had its share of problems when the trump presidency began they were ongoing, not new or urgent. the domestic economy had been growing slowly but steadily for all but one quarter of the previous six years. the annual rate of inflation is below 2%, the annual rate dipped 5%. the percentage of americans regard themselves as middle or upper class to rch 62%, greater share than below the 2008 financial crisis, the stock market was already booming. and unlike recent republican predecessors donald trump took office with the republican congress. look at it that way, donald trump was dealt a very good hand and honestly, i am somebody who appreciates the significance of the tax cut bill that wa

about another president abe lincoln in your new book "lincoln's last trial." let's go to michael. >> thank you so much. >>> it may be the last trial of lincoln, but it could be the last stand for the cleveland cavaliers. the finals last night, the warriors are two wins away from taking home the title for the second straight season and that's come after steph curry set that nba finals record with nine three-pointers. abc's t.j. holmes is in oakland and, t.j., steph was in mvp form last night. >> reporter: stra, he put on a show, and he was putting up shots that you and i wouldn't even try in the backyard during a game of horse. once again cavs/warriors gave us something we've never seen before in nba history. >> draymond green. >> reporter: the golden state warriors were back to championship form against the cleveland cavaliers in game two of the nba finals. >> curry back in the corner. nice little fake. sets up another. got it again. led by a barrage of shots from the outside. >>s up for tee curry way outside. another three. steph curry has set a finals record. >> reporter: steph

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arguing with a military buddy of his who said abraham lincoln is radical and eisenhower came back and eisenhower was very well read. he said everything i read about abraham lincoln says to me that he was one of the great compromiser's in presidential history. he came right down the middle and got pressure from both sides. warren, that was eisenhower. i juxtapose that with warren, from his memoirs. according to warren he had a conversation with eisenhower after he retired as president and eisenhower by then was known to be quite critical of warren and the warren decisions and warren said i don't understand. you are a politician, you have been compromised. but when you are a justice of the supreme court or chief justice of the supreme court you are obligated to on principle. you can't do a little at a time. you can't do a little of the principal at a time, you have to do it all at once and that was earl warren. >> they never explicitly overruled plessy versus ferguson. do supreme court justices only give a little principle? >> my reading of brown versus board basically we can have our c

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