you write whatever you want but rest assured like i told univision and like i told everybody else and you can certainly look it up online, i swear on god as my children, i will find you and serve you personally and i will be nothing but happy when i turn around and i get 'judgment for defamation against you and [ bleep ] everyone you work for. so i'm warning you tread very [ bleep ] lightly because what i'm going to do to you is going to be [ bleep ] disgusting. do you understand me? don't think you're going to hide behind your pen because it's not going to happen. i'm more than happy to discuss it with your attorney and with your legal counsel because [ bleep ] you're going to need it. you write a story that has mr. trump's name in it with the word rape and i'm going to mess your life up for as long as you're on this frigging planet. i'm going to turn around. you're going to have judgments against you for so much money you'll never know how to get out from underneath it. i think you should do the story. and i think you should go ahead and you should write the story that you plan on w

groups like univision. doing their own investigative work to try to reunite. government in a certain sense is tying its own hand. because secretary azar mentioned they planned to do extreme vetting of anyone who comes forward to potentially claim a child as their guardian. as part of that, they want to fingerprint people. many of these who might come forward might have someone who's undocumented in their home. they might be undocumented themselves. this could have the effect of discouraging them from coming forward. that in it its own right is problem mat problemat problematic. >> part of the process you're underlining is when you have a child, sponsors need to come forward to be able to then remove the child from that center. and all of those sponsors, in that home, need to be vetted. right? >> right. >> what you're saying is some of them may or may not be documented as well. >> right. so the administration says, and dhs secretary nielson has spoken about this. that they are very concerned about people potentially posing as a guardian, potentially posing a a

we have people from a former miss usa contestant, univision with a lawsuit launched against them. this is part of a long history and pattern of michael cohen making legal threats in order to try to fix perceived problems for his boss. >> how effective were the tactics? >> it's hard to say, because a lot of the time we don't know who's been silenced by the threats. a lot of these things are kept hidden and behind the scenes. that's why the audio is interesting. we get a sense of how in private michael cohen likes to operate and how at least at the time the trump organization operated. we have this reporting in which michael avenatti, stormy daniels' tells us, hey, when michael cohen got her to sign the nda, there were threatening, coercive language used at the time too. it really feels like part of a larger pattern. it's hard to know how effective it is, because if it is effective, people don't speak up. >> what do you think, if anything, it means for the claim that stormy daniels was, number one, threatened by somebody she believes could be part of the trump orbit, but also believ