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, but i feel like it led me to another place where i then had kendall and kylie. so i always have to look back and go, "that was, i guess, unfortunately, the way it was supposed to go." when he filed for divorce, that was pretty devastating for you. yeah, because it made it real. like, you think you're gonna come through this period, i thought, and everything's gonna be okay, and then all of a sudden it wasn't. so, that was really hard for me. and it was also hard in the money department. oh, yeah. i was-- i didn't have anything. i went to the market one day and my, you know, credit card didn't work. i had a market credit card, and i'm like, "i can't even buy a tomato." you know, i was like, "i gotta figure this out." so that's when i knew that i had to figure out a life that you don't depend on anyone else. that gave me great strength. harvey: do you think, looking back, the reality show in some way sunk the marriage? no. no. there was obviously a big secret that bruce was holding. caitlyn now says from the beginning you knew. at outback, there's one way to cook a steak. perfectly.
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