nat reed leaves behind a long legacy as an environmental champion. he served as environmental advisor to governor claude kirk beginning in 1967 and in 1971, he became assistant secretary of the interior for fish, wildlife, and national parks under president nixon. and he stayed in that position through the gerald ford presidency. nat returned to florida in 1977 and continued his career in public service by working under seven different governors in various capacities, including chairman of the commission on florida's environmental future. and that commission was instrumental in the land acquisition projects that we now know as everglades restoration. he also served as a board member for the national audubon society, the nature conservancy, the national parks conservation association, and the natural resources defense council as well as the national jeer graphic society -- the national geographic society. one of nat reed's most passionate projects has been to expedite the construction of this reservoir south of lake okeechobee. the project that the ar

wilderness society being created, which is saying we need some parts of america that don't have roads, nat order to be mere in hot downtown austin you want to believe you can take day's drive and be in a place like big bend national park, where you can get away from industrialization and these are the foot soldiers of the roosevelt revolution. >> host: who was william odouglas and what role did he flay alaska? >> guest: everybody know to know out william o. douse has, the longest supreme court justice and came from yakima, washington, and the most powerful conservation spokesperson america had after theodore roosevelt. rote a book called "mymy wilderness" about the west and cease a wrote a children's biography of john muir and a wilderness bill of rights and is a supreme your justice. he could walks not sitins. the gather a bunch of people and say, let's save the canal along the potomac with, save the beaches along the legitimate in washington state and douglas was very close to the kennedy family and was a promoter of -- by 1960, douglas is a big influence on why we have the arctic will a

doesn't get any worse than nat in terms of political rhetoric. and what i find specially interesting is that there's some elements of popular memory about world war ii that really come to mind quite easily. we think of salvage drives for aluminum, pots and pans to be recycled for military uses, think of the news reels of american's production of armaments, shutters fracture advertise coming back to life d factories coming back, families gathered around around the radio listen to program us about what was occurring, what the federal government was doing. we know about recruiting drives to get volunteers for civil defense. all that happened before pearl harbor. all that was done by robert horton and the division of information. and so in american consciousness, the nazi and soviet invasion of poland in september of '39 and then the next day is pearl harbor. from december of '39 to december of '41 is two and a quarter years of franklin roosevelt worrying but the possible that fascism would win, the country going through the fall of check slovaca, th

in -- nat our organize some people have had to hear and listen to a woman and stay silent and be open to at least seeing something differently. i one person is able to have another conversation with someone else and be transformed. think there are moments where you can make those decisions for yourself. >> thank you. >> thank you. [applause] >> you are going to want to come closer because people are going to keep jumping in front of you. >> um, hi. i'm amy. i had a conversation recently with a friend about justice in cases of sexual assault, and i -- she said don't think that justice i exists for individuals, for the person it happened 0 to. that justice can exist for society and the reason why i said that justice isn't exist for individual is because you can't take back someone being raped and i wanted to hear you thoughts on that. does justice, whether restorative, punitive, any version of justice do you think that exists for the individual? >> i don't. no. well, i think there can be a measure of justice for the visit but you're right you can't undo what has been done the same with

this was summarized best by the title of a book by my friend, nat, who died several years ago, called "freedom of speech for me but not for thee: how the left and right rerentlessly censor each other." i. 1991 was he 200 knowledge in anniversary of the biffle of rights including the first amendments the american bar association, the lawyers organization, based here in chicago, did a survey of adults americans, and a large substantial majority didn't even know what the bill of rights is, when they were told what it is, including the first amendments, majority said, let's get rid of that and there were a majority who wanted to censor whatever they considered dangerous speech at the time. so after 9/11 it would have been anything that threatens national security. after school shootings, anything that might trigger no pun intended -- school violence and now we have panic about -- concern but racism and hatred and it's always like a politically cheap, quick fix. let's just get rid of the superficial manifestation and forget bought the hard work of dealing with the underlying root causes of

because turkey is, part of nat. but that agreement, which was instituteed in, i believe, 19 -- it was 1916. in 1916 -- >> host: robert, i've got to scwump in because it is off topic. if you want to bring it back to the book that our guest has written, we're happy to take your question. >> caller: well, they're trying to cut down president trump about what has happened -- this happened, this stuff happened on barack obama's watch. when the people came, when the pope and the archbishop of the russian orthodox church met in cuba, are you familiar with that? most people have forgotten that. >> host: i'm not but, robert, thank you. we're going to move on unless you want to respond to what the caller's -- >> guest: i don't know enough about it. >> host: the book is titled first in line: presidents, vice presidents and the pursuit of , wer. go ahead, john. >> caller: thank you for taking my call can. i'd like to ask kate, usually when you get in the vice presidency, you have to have somebody that you're very comfortable. c

some of these long, free families were coming out of north carolina and virginia, after the nat turner rebellion and lost the right to educate their children. it became a serious offense to teach any africa child how to read. so, you have been on your 300 acres since 1700, you're their generation, and you want to teach your children how to read and the state is saying, you cannot do that. so that because in get the family to into wagon trains to move to places like illinois and ohio. they knew they had to play the $500 to $1,000 to be there. but this is something that is really complicate because there's a lot written about the northwest territorial ordinance, very pro-schools and education, and a lot of these regions start ate public school system pretty earlily farmland was taxed but almost immediately african-americans were banned from attending public schools. they were legally segregated in the 1830s you have taskation without representation, you also have taxation without education, which is just really hard. they were hiring their own teachers, building their own schools, billin

the terrible earthquakes in italy port nat power but the building without reinforcement and people run outside and there's an aftershock and the facade falls over and people die. so the idea is, get down, get under something and stay there get nature table. >> one of the tv station -- i think al the tv stations, their tower was on top of some something called the mckinley apartments and it was like a 14 or 15 story and then the towers and then we would have breaks, because i was working at the station, you go outside and you can see the tower waving back and forth. >> yes. and point. alaska still has -- doesn't have mega thrust earthquakes don't happen often but tate at love faults still in in and responsible for 16% of the earthquakes in the world in alaska. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> sure. >> hi. i was hearing your interview on npr's "fresh air." you mentioned in 40 or 50 years the pacific northwest will have a quake and you mentioned it, too, every few 500 years. the development of plate tectonics are help up but how much better have be been able to forecast earthqu

this government allowed nat '92. rules were suspended so they're allowed to own and sell programs into sin rick indication, the -- sin rick indication, and the digital companies like netflix and amazon, they can sell to last year cbs general trait $50 million clear profit from selling its library of programming to netflix. but -- so here you are in the short run, doing very well by selling to netflix in a long run, it ignites ignites the inne dill lamp ma because they're building up their -- dilemma because they're building their competition. that's the problem when you're a legacy business you protect what you have now, think short germ say i don't want to divert too much money to this new digital realm when i have -- i'm make midnight from the old realm. and that is always a problem when you look at companies, and often times they're afraid of blowing things ump. most of these people are managers, not owners, and they're not going to be there in five years or six years. so, they tend to make short-term decisions th

those are called crimes that are created by the very fact nat you are going after them. they're crimes to be sure but that's not what a special counsel is supposed to be doing. i i he ends up prosecuting flynn and prosecuting manafort and nobody really close to the president, it will be a failure, and so -- >> not a failure -- >> flynn was national security aroader and manafort managed his campaign. >> look at manafort, how many people here believe in the presumption of innocence? manafort is now no solitary confinement, 23 hours a day without having been convicted of any crime. he has been indicted, indicted, you can indict a ham sandwich and there are tens of thousands of mine young people today in prison without having been convicted of any crime. indictment is enough to lock somebody up in rikers and if you don't think rikers is punishment, go visit it some day. this is a scandal. how many people today are in jail before there's a conviction, without a conviction, there's something very wrong with that whether it's paul manafort or a poor 20-year-old black kid who ca

an energy innovation summit hosted by governor john hickenlooper, and, john, thank you for hosting nat denver. we examined how smart grid technology, distributed generation, energy storage, censors for coal and natural gas operations and other technologies are creating an electricity system that is safer, more efficient, cleaner and more resilient. we saw the latest technologies in action at the solar decath lon competition and net zero energy use houses built by college students. and i'm proud to say that the university of nevada las vegas was represented as a finalist. you got throw in something for the home team, right? we gathered again in las vegas, nevada, for a transportation innovation summit, where we were hosted by the consumer technology association at ces, the world's largest technology showcase and heard from thought leaders about the incredible advancements in autonomous vehicles, electric vehicles, ride-sharing and drones. we took rides in an autonomous shuttle and it was my flour be joined at cs by governor bullock as well as governor snyder from the great state of mich

like the short, crisp, send nat tick chapters. the only thing i do in -- it's just to tell me wage in the book, i will do a microsoft spreadsheet and i have columns so the chapter, number, where it's happening, what time of day and what is happening in the chapter and then color code those so i can say it's been six chapter us since we last saw scott harsath and it's time to bring him back. if i brought them and laid them out here you would see a different rhythm for each book and that's the muse guiding me. so it's hard work. i thick it was dorothy parker who said i don't like writing. i like having written and that's a good line from door -- dorothy parker. good reading is darn hard write ing. >> host: you just started your book tour with us. thank you. do you enjoy book tour snooze it's one of the best parts. have the book done and i can celebrate. but i said a few minutes ago, the fans are the people i work for so this is my job review. i'm going out on the road, how well the book does and how nice rhys on amazon and job reads