right now, north korea is illegally smuggling petroleum products. ship to ship transfers are the most prominent means by which this is happening. these transfers happen it -- happened at least 89 times in the first five months of this year and they continue to occur. the united states reminds every member state of its responsibility to stop illegal transfers and we urge them to step up there were -- reinforcement efforts as well. we must also crackdown on other forms of sanctions aviation. -- evasion. north korean cyber pets and arer criminal activities also generating significant revenue for the regime and they must be stopped. president trump remains upbeat thet the prospects of denuclearization of north korea and so do i. as progress is happening. it is the trump administration's dprk couldne day the be here in our midst as a friend. imagine un security council meeting in which the missile programs were not the agenda time and time again. focus our able to energy on so many urgent problems that face our world. i believe this reality is possible a

by further stating north korea and south korea seek to fully the denuclearization of the north korean peninsula, it opened in door to a three-party and later unilateral negotiations. there were two occasions when the north end korean foreign ministry's met. once in bali and once in beijing to discuss nuclear issues. ofy were not speaking only talks in the six party talks, but north korea is always quick to point out these contacts along with the north korean ministry visited to purchase fuel. north korean foreign ministry's officials seem open to further contact if others, namely the united states, are involved. trends andome of the policies evident and passed northbetween the u.s. and korea and between the two koreas that suggest the three-we approach may be the most useful for moving ahead in denuclearization. but what will clinch this is the understanding that the united states, north korea, and south korea are bound up in the larger historical process and which there roles are radically shifting. that meetings have shown north korea today is open to an interim solution. an interim

now, north korea and the u.s. have started to have talks. and as those things are happening, we, in the search purity council and the international community have to support those talks. and the best way we can support those talks is to not listen the sanctions. and what we have been seeing is certain countries wanting to do waivers, certain countries saying less left sanctions peers are countries wanting to do more and what i appreciate secretary pompeo coming up and will we continue to reiterate is, we cannot do one thing until we see north korea respond to their promise to denuclearize.we have to see some sort of action. until the action happens, the security council will hold tight. the international community, we ask you to hold tight. as we go forward. the problem we are encountering is that some of our friends have decided that they want to go around the rules. he saw that there was violations of the oil band. we have as secretary pompeo said, we have seen 89 times, were that has happened. we have photographs of proof of ship to ship

and north korea have been warming earlier this week north korea return the remains of american soldiers sixty five years after the end of the korean war the gesture of peace came weeks after an historic summit the two countries agreed to work toward the quote total denuclearization of the korean peninsula a day later u.s. president donald trump declared that north korea was no longer a threat but now the washington post has published reports citing u.s. intelligence that get undermined the apparent diplomatic progress on the peninsula . according to the report this missile research facility and sunroom done north korea is being built up rather than torn down. neighbor north korea is on alert hustling korean government is closely watching north korean movements and closely working with the united states however i hope you understand that we are not able to speak about intelligence reports. this on the heels of reports that north korea is continuing to enrich uranium in secret and critics say the trumpet ministration is being played by north korea last week u.s. secretary of state mike po

leadership on north korea has been evident this morning. the reason i came here today was to meet with members of the un security council, south korea and japan as well, to convey details on my work to trip -- on my work to north korea and the progress made there. i also met with the un's theetary-general to discuss topic and other topics as well. the countries of the security council are united on the need for final and fully their five denuclearize asian of north korea, as agreed to by chairman kim. the strict enforcement of is critical to us achieving this goal. all member states have unanimously agreed to enforce sanctions on north korea, and we expect them to honor those commitments. if they are not enforced, prospects for denuclearization diminished.ea are right now, north korea is illegally smuggling petroleum products. -- these illegal transfers from ship to ship are the prominent means by which these are happening. these transfers happened at least 89 times in the first five months of this year and they continue to occur. the unite

by north korea last week u.s. secretary of state mike pompeo faced criticism from within his own party and i am afraid there is this point the united states the troubled ministration is being taken for a ride fear not senator fear not. there is no doubt the u.s. intelligence community is watching north korea closely it is unclear however what progress has been made toward denuclearization since the trump him summit. heartless take the story down to the united states. standing by in washington good evening to you carson so what has been the reaction to this report from the washington post. on the white house has not officially reacted to the reports but one of the president's surrogates kellyanne conway has tried to play down the importance of the news saying that things don't change overnight she was echoing earlier statements by secretary of state compay oh the american foreign minister who had sat that the nuclear rising north korea and getting rid of the threat from its long range missile program would not be a

military plane was allowed into north korea on friday morning to bring them to a base in south korea it's believed that the remains of five thousand three hundred u.s. soldiers are still in north korea more than sixty years after the fighting stopped friday marks the sixty fifth anniversary of the armistice that ended the war one israeli settler is dead and two others injured after being stabbed in the occupied west bank the attack happened in are them southwest of ramallah a palestinian suspect was killed after entering the settlement and carrying out the attack in response the israeli defense minister avigdor lieberman says four hundred more subtle homes will be built in the area. an internal israeli military report is expected to find no grounds for further investigation into the killings of palestinian protesters by army snipers and israeli newspaper reports the army will not true for any soldiers to the military police over their conduct it says the military is blaming operational mishaps for the deaths of anyone who was not an intended target. ugandan president looks like he'll

and north korea is a kim dynasty. and certainly, they have their own interests in maintaining their own dynasty. so therefore, we should make kim the n and his family benefit of becoming a normal state. probably when kim jong un came out to singapore, i'm sure he had a lot of thoughts. he was educated in europe and probably, he might have struggled about what to do. strategic has made cisions to dismantle nuclear and thinking through what all this means for them, what will be our next strategic move. a family, mple, like we might invite to his sister to the united states. she went to the olympics in the fall and went to singapore. and probably not to get kim jong un to washington. but maybe bring his sister to washington. and maybe silicon valley. any way, i think engaging in the amily is very important. major roller coaster ride with some positive and very dangerous risks going forward. in particular, there are three particular things. first, the ambiguous terms of the agreement means that there are -- there is a.m.

, north korea. in concrete terms, do you think there is a baseline understanding they can agree upon what denuclearization would mean, and what could that be? tony: i do not think the parties are anywhere near reaching a consensus on the meaning of denuclearization. they probably will not be able to achieve that for some time to come. the only way to think about this that make sense, with every passing month there will be something dramatic done on denuclearize and north korea and the korean peninsula. onee build on the steps, more dramatic each time than the other, than the previous step, we can move closer and closer to a day when the peninsula will be free of nuclear weapons. to expect north korea today to give you a timeline, it is unrealistic. i have to say i have heard from the nexth koreans that presidential election may be a good time to make some serious , building on confidence building measures, steps on denuclearization and then something genetic on the eve of the next presidential elect

this is how north korea operates. narrator: recent satellite imagery analyzed by amnesty international shows thato ince kim jong un camewer, the political prison 200,000 civilians who are outside of the criminal penal system. one of the camps, hwasong,te is 540 square kilo, three times the size of washington, d.c. narrator: it's estimated that as many as one in 100 north koreans is a pical prisoner, many of whom were caught trying to defect. stil several thousand northreans trh china each year. idlee, the former street k fled when he was 18. (translated): i was very scared, but i thought, "it's better to die than live like an insect." before i left, i prefored a little bit of . i roasted some beans. i ate little bits of that as i went on my way. i o the top of the mountains to see where the gu then at night, i crossed the river when nobody was watching. i crossed the river alone and made it into china. i usedcthe sun to get my direns and went inland. narrator: ctors like lee risk getting caught and sent back by china,

and north korea of a no north korea's nuclear program john feffer is back with us director of foreign policy in focus at the institute of policy studies in washington via skype hopefully our connection works a little bit better this time so just to set this up again with my first question remind our viewers we have we had these talks with two completely different versions from each side about how how they went what do you think's going on here well why is that well i think the trumpet ministration basically tried to kind of push a hard line position it's sensitive to criticism here in the united states that it's basically giving away the show to north korea also wants to demonstrate that it is showing resolve if you will and at the same time trump administration has invested enormous amount of political capital into this process and wants to demonstrate that the singapore summit was a success so i think that explains why it has the best face on the results of this meeting. do you think. in terms of the u.s. in there or perhaps president trump in his desire to to get this going and say

i think dismantling the north korea nuclear programme in a year is very overly optimistic. most nuclear experts that have put out estimates suggest that it may be possible to dismantle, i.e. freeze testing, of the north korea nuclear programme in a year, but the likelihood of the programme being entirely shut down in a year is nearly impossible. in fact, they estimate it could take nearly six or ten years, maybe as long as 15 years, to fully dismantle the programme. it seems like a very optimistic estimate on the ability to get things done and to get north korea denuclearised. i think the reality is we're looking at much longer. and the question about whether north korea is sincere about denuclearising is still one that's very much still on the table. there are still several stages for this to happen, it has to be verified, it has to be checked, they have to make sure they can't start up the programme again. all this takes time and money as well. yeah. i think the estimates are that it would be billions and billions of dollars in order to completely denuclearise north korea

korea, and we have to demand north korea to do that. we have,er unchanged in that goal. so the words may be different and there is not much significance in the different phrases and words that we may use. now on the question of abduction , from secretary pompeo this time around the issue was raised. and i'd like to thank him for raising the issue at the meeting regarding the reaction from north korea. i will refrain from making any comment. as far as japan is concerned, the u.s. and north korea negotiations should -- [inaudible] and we'd like to work in tandem with the international community so that security council resolution and base sanction can be solidly implemented regarding north korea. thank you. [inaudible conversations] >> well, i think our goal remains complete denuclearization. and i think the ffed, as used by secretary pompeo, is any softer in staging our shared goal of complete denuclearization. obviously, terms have historical context, and this has been somewhat difficult for north korea to sign on to in written form. bu

korea year we had a right to know the detail and response from north korea secretly and means dot com how we as a us and south korea work with japan on this adoption issue so there cornell days uni going a big joke your home i don't know any home got that and you get the. japanese government in there bringing in the abduction issue please. reacting. thank you called it quits. secondly maybe if i may. first. no internally am it's u.n. resolution sanctions is about. weapons of mass destructions and ballistic missiles has to be complete verifiable and irreversible. de. dismantling and this is provided for in the relevant un resolution for us we will continue to enforce the complete. alignment with the. resolution and this is aligned also with the international community and its intent . instead of cv id sometimes i may paraphrase to say the. dismantling of nuclear weapons but what we mean is c v i and as mina paraphrasing we do use denuclearization but what it means is that we are requiring the north korean regime to. implement in its entirety cv id so i would say that there is no substa

north korea may be one of the easier challenges you face. north korea, a iran and isis ara pretty good challenge and then you keep going and on and on and on. here's what we're trying tore prevent. proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and you are an essential part of all of this. i don't see how it make sense to cut the budget with over 20% giving your portfolio and i'll ask you one quick question in a minute but if we give you more money you thank you can wisely spend it and you will say yes. if you don't, we have a problem. having said that i want to turn it over to senator leahy and i really appreciate you coming to day because d you are in demand but the subcommittee was on our mind and w you need to tell us w we can better help you do your job. >> thank you for being here. welcome. you are a stranger to the congress and i know you know this committee has had long bipartisan support and we've done this whether republicans have been in charge of the senate or democrats and whether it's been a republican administration or democrati

korea. 90% of north korea's fuel comes from china, 50% of its food. so in this situation if you were in north korea's position and you have consolidated your situation with china, kim has gone twice now to beijing, they've had great meetings. why would you -- why would you worry about the reintroduction of pressure since you've consolidated your chinese flank? >> fareed, you really put your finger on it. the administration has three problems now with china, it needs china to exert this pressure on north korea for the reasons everyone has cited. 90% of north korea's trade is through or with china. three things now, as we said, the president has undermined his own leverage by talking by success that isn't there, that's given the green light to china to ease up on the pressure but at the same time he's prosecuting a tariff war against china and china is retaliation, that's going to make it more difficult to get china to do more on north clae and, three, we've also of course taken apart the iran deal and as part of that we're trying to get countries inclu

with a military strike against north korea. so certainly kim jung un and what about the united states and president trump? me know that he talks a lot. [laughter] and said i'll follow the problem by meeting with kim jungee un and i believe in hope that it will not be easy and that kim jung un cannot be underestimated. but to be very strategic because he came to the united states and then he came to china with the leverage so his move has been quite strategic and i hope it is a process that they will be discussing more. but at the same time you can argue that you cannot put him in a box. now we can make him make a promise to the community so with the six party talks at the level of the foreign ministry and i think that is quite significant so we can box him in with immigration and trade may give some credit to trump even though there's a lot of things of the nation so there are a lot of remaining challenges. the first question we have to ask is if the t5 is realistic and t5 is our goal. >> please verify. [laughter] completes ver

security council to discuss the latest on north korea. afterwards the two met with reporters where secretary pompeo was asked about russian president vladimir putin making a possible visit to the u.s. in the fall. from u.n. headquarters. this is 10 minutes. ny.hank you, nick the main reason i came here today was to meet with member of council.uth korean i also had the opportunity to meet with u.n. secretary general gutierrez to discuss the topic and other topics as well. the countries of the security council are united on the need for final, fully verified on the denuclearization by north korea. strict enforcement is critical. members of the u.s. security council and by extension all u.s. member states have unanimously agreed to fully enforce sanctions. we expect hem to continue to honor those commitments. when sanctions are not enforced, the prospect for the declearization for north korea is diminished. right now north korea are smuggling petroleum. these illegal ship to ship transfer are the most prominent means by which this is happeni

we know what north korea got. they got the status of a bilateral meeting, something they've sought for decades. they also got the united states surprisingly to announce that we would suspend this sort of cooperation that we had in the upcoming military exercises that we have with south korea. so the north korean side got those two things. we didn't get one thing. why would we want to continue going down this road and now give kim jong un the benefit of a meeting with the president in the united states unless we get something to show that this isn't just some sort of game in which we're being played. which right now, clearly, appears to be the case. >> i want to quickly get to what's happening. the nato meeting in brussels this week. it happens the president leaves on tuesday after announcing his pick for the supreme court monday night. i want to have you listen to what the president said about nato this week. here it is. >> we're paying for anywhere from 70 to 90% to protect europe and that's fine. of course they

korea and you had north korea saying that the u.s. is gangster-like, the demands -- our demands are gangster-like and then we had pompeo hitting back saying, well, america is gangster-like then the world is gangster-like because if you are talk about sanctions it was a unanimous decision to keep sanctions until denuclearization is complete. >> how the two sides view things differently. in the north korea side, i will point out that on the chinese side, united states, south korea, everyone says that denuclearization is the ultimate goal and they all believe that. the path to get that, though, it's very different. north korea when they said gang stf like what they view in context, hey, you're coming and and you're going rob us by asking us to give up everything and then at the end then we have to give something and we have to trust you. we are saying before we release sanctions, you have to do all of the things. if we go in the situation where we have to have 100% before we give anything, it would be hard to come to any kind of conclusi

interest to denuclearize north korea as well. you've seen trump publicly praise his chinese counterpart, president xi, on north korea, the enforcement of sanctions. they've tried to keep these trade issues separate. it's unclear whether beijing views these things as separately and whether or not they're using their long standing links with pyongyang, with north korea, to kind of play a multilevel game of chess here. >> absolutely. definitely multilevel game of chess. thanks so much for that, ryan browne. >>> so, what does this mean for president trump's relationship with kim jong-un? well, cnn's white house correspondent boris sanchez joins us now live from berkeley heights, new jersey, near the president's bedminster golf resort where he is spending the weekend. what can you tell us, boris? >> reporter: hey there, joe. the white house declined to comment on the news coming from north korea, that statement put out by the north koreans. the president has not weighed in on twitter, though he was active this morning, tweeting out so

and north korea have been warming. earlier this week north korea returned the remains of american soldiers 65 years after the end of the korean war. the gesture of peace came weeks after an historic summit. a day later, u.s. president donald trump declared that north korea was no longer a threat. but now the washington post has published reports citing u.s. intelligence that could undermine the apapparent diplomatic progress on the peninsula. according to the report, this missile research facility in north korea is being built up, rather than torn down. neighbor south korea is on alert. >> the south korean government is closely watching north korean movements and closely y working with the united states. however, i hope you understand that we are not able to speak about intelligence reports. reporter: this, on the heels of reports that north korea is continuing to enrich uranium in secret. critics say the trump administration is being played by north korea. last week, u.s. secretary of state mike pompeo faced criticism

korea or threatening to use force against north korea, i think those same critics are going to be pretty upset about it. >> and melanie, even if president trump continues to call his meeting with kim jong-un a major foreign policy achievement, i mean, how much does this change the course of these negotiations? >> look, i think this really underscores the fact that it's going to be incredibly difficult to ultimately get a deal with north korea. this meeting was a huge propaganda victory for north korea, if nothing else comes out of it. and i think the united states has to ask itself what other concessions do they need to see before moving forward with any further talks or meetings, including whether they should have to declare all of these secret test sites that have now been revealed by some of the nbc reporting. so, look, i just think that the president has an uphill battle. he was naive to think this could be easily solved. and certainly this new reporting undercuts the idea that the nuclear threat is no longer in north korea. >> and also new today, a behind the scenes look at how pres

in terms of conventional military, north korea is huge. north korea has more than 1,000 aircraft. about 1600 aircraft fix and rotary wings. thousands of tanks. armored vehicles. thousands of rocket launchers. this stuff is all there. it's also hidden. there's hidden artillery positioned along the demilitarized zone pointed directly at south korea's capital seoul. the north's cyber capacity are the country's most potent weapon. it flexed that mus cle in the 2014 hack of sony pictures. there's increasing evidence they were behind the 2016 new york reverve on the bangladeshi bank that netted them $81 million. the president points to the fact there's been no missile launches or nuclear tests since november. the intelligence community says that's not telling us the whole story. >> that say it is true and a hopeful sign. the new intelligence assessment that we learned about totally contradicts the president's assertion there's no longer a threat from north korea nuclear's program. what this intelligence shows us is that the north koreans are enriching nuclear fuel at multiple secret sit

the ball is in north korea's court. >> the ball is in north korea's court. negotiations haven't really started in earnest. we understand that sung kim, the u.s. evnvoy that's been dealing with north korea, has been meeting with north korean officials even as recently as this weekend. but we don't know what those talks proouse talks produced. there are some reports from korea that mike pompeo might be taking a trip there in the next week or two. he'll be able to, i think, know whether those negotiations are going to go on. >> all right. elise labott, thank you so much. >>> still ahead, a day after nationwide marches against family separations at the border and president trump warns democrats that taking on i.c.e. is a losing issue. are democrats playing into the president's narrative that they're anti-law enforcement? i'll ask democratic senator ted lew next. with my bladder leakage, the products i've tried just didn't fit right. they were very saggy. it's getting in the way of our camping trips. but with new sizes, depend fit-flex is made for me. introducing

so what have we gotten in north korea? and why are we allowing north korea to continue to have a nuclear weapon when the strategy is that as long as iran is doing any types of enrichment, we're going to impose sanctions against them? >> senator, let me try -- that was a long question. let me try to unpack it a little bit. so let me give you the common theme. we want neither iran nor north korea to have the capacity of proliferating nuclear weapons, to enrich uranium or build their own nuclear weapons program. it draws them together and sets the conditions for president trump's understanding of how one achieves nonproliferation in the world. and that's the mission statement we're undertaking in each of the two countries. they're in different places and we are working on an approach in each country to increase the likelihood that achieve that is. a mission i know you share. >> a second interjection, mention was made of a waiver in the mdaa by senator mattis, i mean, secretary mattis, actually. he would not want to be demoted

. -- north korea. needing with kim jong on was an interesting and very positive experience. north korea has great potential for the future. as you heard our guest talk about earlier today, if you want to give comment on that, it is (202) 748-8000 for democrats. republicans, (202) 748-8001. .ndependents, (202) 748-8002 you can also post on our twitter feed. john is next from columbia heights, maryland. , in 2018, etc.l america last year spent $1.6 trillion in military defense. russia spent $66 billion. china spent $29 billion. add are getting ready to another $716 billion to the military judgment -- budget. when people of the world see america beefing up its military, it has got to be some reason. host: your thoughts on the talks between the united states and north korea. caller: they get news from all over the world about what this nation is doing. they can talk all they want, that nobody trusts this nation anymore. we are supposed to be a nation of laws. host: you do not think these talks will be prod

where are we now with north korea? >> i don't trust north korea. i believe that our ability to build a relationship where we can have a deal that we're capable of having complete verification of total denuclearization, that is fantastic. right now on this day, bring us home our 55 fallen service members is huge. the trust is built over the course of time based off further progress beyond today, today is a good sign but it doesn't get us there. to the president's rhetoric of 2017, he knew that he was using harsh rhetoric at the time. the fact is, if north korea attacks the united states, they would be met with fire and fury. what happened over the course of 2017, we were establishing a military option that was being seen by kim jong-un as real. what that results in is more effect multilateral diplomacy. it helps us ramp up the economic pressure as we saw in august of 2017 when nikki haley got a u.n. resolution vote. it helps with the information efforts. that principle, diplomacy information, other principles are more effective. we're showing that t

look at north korea. it is very strategic because he came to the united states and then he came to china for his move has been quite strategic and i hope trump has learned a lesson in the process but at the same time we can't fox in kim jung un and we can make him make a promise to the international community. so with immigration and trade and give us some credit and i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. so what other remaining challenges? so the first question we have to ask if you talk about cbid complete verifiable irreversible denuclearization. [laughter] 's been a thank you. cvid. but to be realistic. and then those that have a concern in other words that the theater could pay off. they don't want to break the whole framework so i feel like kim jung un is trying to control the pace. and somewhat becoming impatient a are eager to do more with the project but because of sanctions they have restraint. so they're asking the united states to make some exceptions but so far say no. and then wit

north korea is calling mike pompeo, the secretary of state, his meetings in north korea regrettable. the secretary met with kim jong-un's top advisor, kim yong-chol. according to pompeo they made, and this is a quote, progress on almost all of the central issues but that's not how pyongyang sees it. they released this statement. we expected the u.s. to bring constructive measures to build confidence in accord answer with the spirit of the u.s./north korea summit. however, the attitude of the u.s. in the first high-level talks held on the 6th and 7th were indeed regrettable. >> they went on to say that the result of the talks were very worrisome. now, also of note here, north korean leader kim jong-un did not meet with pompeo. >> joining us now, cnn pentagon correspondent ryan browne. >> ryan, pompeo's and north korea's versions here of the exact same meetings don't seem to match up at all. what exactly does this mean? >> well, definitely. we're hearing very different tones coming from north korea and from secretary of state mike pompeo. now, speaking to reporters while still in pyong

well, this is a site based in the north—west of north korea, right by the chinese border. they have been monitoring it sometime because it was at the centre of a promise allegedly made to president trump in singapore. the north koreans said they would dismantle the site and everybody has been watching it several weeks wondering if any activity would be seen. now we are seeing it. it is certainly activity, it is not major activity but there appears to be dismantling of one of the rocket launch test sites, thought to be at the centre of the development of intercontinental ballistic missiles. many people will say, what about its nuclear programme and yes, there are thought to be hundreds of sites hidden throughout north korea and still processing nuclear material however this site is at the centre of a promise and it's this site that we are monitoring right now and when it comes to those intercontinental ballistic missiles, those other missiles, certainly here in seoul injapan that they are concerned about because they would be within range. it is a small but significant step

troops lost in north korea. i understand our military moved coffins to the demilitarized zone to prepare for north korea's return of the remains. this is an issue that comes up when i talked to veterans in wyoming. i wouldn't be surprised if it came up when the president was at the vfw. can you give us an update on what they had to do relating to the remains of our veterans? mr. pompeo: so, they reaffirmed the commitment to return remains that they have in their possession as well as to begin to work on an agreement that had been in place previously about how we would conduct recovery operations inside of north korea. and we will in short order if the north fulfills the commitment begin to put teams back in place such that we can begin not only the return, the repatriation of the remains but the recovery of mains that have not yet been recovered. i understand that it's not directly on point with the denuclearization. i get that. but boy for the families that are missing loved ones, it's a big deal. i'm very hope

people were saying north korea was doing this for peace. i spoke with a scientist years ago and they insisted back then the work was peaceful. >> what can you say to the world to prove that this is not a ballistic missile program in disguise? >> translator: why on earth would we drop nuclear bombs on the people of the world? including the united states. >> reporter: since then, they made many threats to drop nuclear bombs on the united states. one important point, the sohae launch site is a liquid facility. you can see from satellites. north korea has moved on to advanced solid fuel technology. you can move them on mobile launchers and launch them low level low level -- them with little notice. this is a small step toward denuclearization. >> will ripley in hong kong. thank you. >>> the president travels to kansas city to address the vfw convention. greeting him there is the response to the president's rhetorical combat with world leaders. the president should take the opportunity he is not known for and that is to listen. we mean really li

the top generals in north korea of the top generals in north korea of the top aides of kim jong—un. they we re the top aides of kim jong—un. they were discussing denuclearisation of the korean peninsula, which president trump and kim jong il and met last month and discussed that. after mike pompeo left, there was strong criticism of the us, saying america was making too many demands and that america had displayed a reg retta ble and that america had displayed a regrettable attitude. what the north koreans said is that the trust between the two countries was facing a dangerous situation. mike pompeo, after leaving north korea, went to japan and tokyo, and in the last half—hour, there was a press conference which he held with the korean foreign minister and also the japanese foreign minister. they are all in agreement about what denuclearisation means. they have some agreement there and might pompeo said that denuclearisation is going to happen and that he was there and that he feels that the north korean by what it expected of them. the of disputing what the north koreans were sa

what is our policy in north korea. and to your credit i must say i largely agreed with what our goals are. i want to ask you since we haven't heard anything as it relates to north korea, did north korea agree with our definition of de-nuclearization meaning the dismantlement removal of all nuclear weapons and material from north korea? >> i think i can answer your question. let me begin by saying i am engaged in a complex negotiation with the north koreans so i don't intend to share the details of everything that took place. i will attempt to answer questions without disclosing contents of the negotiation. i am very confident that the north koreans understand our definition of de-nuclearization, a very broad one that goes from infrastructure of nuclear war heads. >> we understand it because you laid it for the record. have they agreed with you? >> i believe they thoroughly understand that. >> did they agree to end the production and enrichment of uranium and plutonium? >> i would welcome the chance to respond to your q

gordon about the difference between north korea and iran apparently north korea just wants to survive iran wants to conquer therefore you do a deal with north korea and the deal with iran is how you see it well first i would say messy that the last time i checked because iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon they haven't been able to threaten the united states with a nuclear weapon in the same way as north korea was so if we're taking mr trump america first gravity you'd see a clear line of why the north korean threat needs to be dealt with much more significantly so i think the real problem at the moment is that president trump violated and exited a nuclear agreement that was in shrine by un law the u.n. security council resolution without an alternative and really the only answer that the republican establishment has given is bomb iran. vandana respond this is their response and if there is a dis ingenuous offer to negotiate a grand bargain with iran whereas the opening unconditional offer seems to be a total capitulation of the regime and this is not how you negotiate certainly not wi

that the administration is having about north korea. and with north korea. this is the same week the president trump and russian president vladmir putin had their summit in helsinki. and as senior administration officials like director of national intelligence acknowledge that they're not quite sure everything that was said in that meeting between the two presidents. still the secretary of state says he thinks it's a good idea for the two to meet again. >> it is incredibly valuable to the people of the united states of america that president putin and president trump continue to engage in dialogue to resolve the difficult issues that our countries face between each other. i think this makes enormous sense. i'm very hopeful that meeting will take place this fall. reporter: the secretary of stout traveled here to the united nations in new york today to actually call out russia for its failure to press north korea on its violations of sanctions. the secretary of state and the u.n. ambassador say that north korea is smuggling in control smuggling in petroleum us

geoff, let's start with this news out of north korea. mike pompeo on a long trip that's going to take him through asia. i'm wind up in brussels for this nato summit taking place a little later this week. what explains the contrast that we were just talking about? >> hey there, david. long time korea-watchers say this is not at all a surprise. they point to the all too familiar cycle of hope and then inevitable disappointment when it comes to dealing with north korea on this issue of its nuclear weapons program. but the secretary of state went to north korea with a mission. he was there to flesh out the details of that vaguely-worded joint declaration that the president and kim jong-un signed in june at the singapore summit. at the time, you'll remember, kim agreed to work toward the complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula, offering little in the way of specifics. even so, president trump tweeted that north korea no longer posed a nuclear threat. he said that americans should feel good sleeping well at night. but as it stands, n

and north korea. the two koreas themselves that's the just a three-way approach a be the most useful in moving ahead. process ofleanse the denuclearization is an understanding that the united states, north korea and south korea are bound up in the larger historical process in which their respective roles are radically shifting. already that the two meetings have shown the north korea today is open to an interim solution, interim state of affairs in the peninsula, whereby reunification remains koreans,al goal of all have deferred to future generations to resolve. during this period, u.s. troops can and should remain in korea, -- so that -- and other officials over the years. officials have been known to propose different versions of this idea that have caught americans by surprise. for example u.s. troops should be moved into the dmz. so that they can naturally protect the south against the north. protect the north against the south. they should be transformed into a peacekeeping force. they can play m

north korea got the legitimacy that they wanted with respect to north korea summit in singapore and it just so happens that, you know, they have all of the cards right now. >> with that said, you said that the president is being played, but, julian, what choice does president trump have now in terms of moving forward with this? what does he do? >> west you need nmore negotiations. the first meeting was the first meeting and why you need multiple summits and the summits have to culminate in some concrete agreement with mechanism specifications, otherwise, the meetings don't add up to anything. i think what this is a reminder of. not a surprise but contradicts president trump's claim it was all solved after one encounter. >> let's move on to the big issue at hand. abolishing i.c. aeche. all of the democrats are on board and we say abol accomplbog but they are replacing and remodifying with that. harris says we need to start from scratch and mayor bill de blasio of new york saying you have to abolish this. is this the prime issue for democrats and how do they rally around this? >> it's th

north korea relations. right well the white house says that this will set a positive tone for future negotiations with north korea and considering the fact that the two leaders were exchanging threats and insults on twitter in just the last year it certainly does seem like the good news for international security that they are now at least not on that page and this really is a relatively easy confidence building step for north korea to return these remains expectations for progress in the ongoing nuclear talks after the summit have been relatively low even though it at this summit north korea committed to work towards a nuclear nation it didn't really offer any details of how it would go about doing so and many doubt that the regime is willing to give up its nuclear weapons at all that it's going to see its nuclear weapons program as a central kim jong un's political survival and that this is really a nonstarter so in the grand scheme of things it does seem that this is small step could offer somewhat modes

we think about 5,000 in north korea. and the reason it has taken some time is not to be challenges from slowing the process down. it is just going to the forensics. this is a battlefield. on the battlefield are americans, north koreans, south koreans, and chinese. and what they have is bones to deal with. so it is a challenge for them, and it is going to be a challenge for us, but it is a step in the right direction. >> sandra: mike pompeo, i'm sure you watched every minute of that testimony, he had a big job to do. and his goals, when it comes to north korea. how did he do? >> i thought it was a subtle performance. i think he is one of the real stars of this administration. the relationship that he has, the respect that he enjoys. clearly, they were gunning for him. what actually took place between putin and the present, to be sure, and he was not going to reveal that. nor did they actually expect them to do that. but i really believe that when it comes to north korea, the administration has made adjustments. we have to

productive or gangsta like the united states and north korea makes startlingly different assessments of talks about the denuclearization process. a lot has a stake in this is as you see it a lie from the also coming up. eighty's prime minister gives in to pressure from protesters angry over plans to raise fuel prices but we're going to be. marching with a message will tell you why these people are walking more than a thousand kilometers from italy to the u.k. plus. i was jubilation for croatia heartbreak for russia as the world cup hosts baltz after a dramatic penalty shootout. one thousand and contemplate the possibility their team could go all the way. or the u.s. and north korea have reached wildly different conclusions about the pyongyang talks over denuclearization the u.s. secretary of state mike pompei oh called them productive but just hours after he left the country north korea accused the u.s. of making what it called gangsta like demands it also described the u.s. approach to the talks as extremely regrettable on players two day visit was supposed to pin down some of the d

the very first progress to ending the nuclear program in north korea is for north korea to make a declaration on their program. let us know exactly what they have, where they have it, and get independent eyes on the ground to verify that. and then a game plan to eliminate the program. none of that has been achieved. reported that mr. pompeo last for that, and has gotten no reply. that is from a south korean source. have not greatou confidence, or you don't think it is likely that they will be able to achieve denuclearization? >> i don't want to go that far. i don't believe we have achieved very much in accomplishing that goal to date. i understand from the president that he got a commitment from kim jong-un to denuclearize north korea. that is a positive first step. the very first step is to understand the program. we know they have nuclear weapons. we haven't seen any evidence they are willing to give it up. >> we have about three minutes left. >> the senate is going to stay in session for quite a bit of august. largely to work on some bills, but also this nomination of judge brett kavanaugh

what do you make of these latest reports that north korea is expanding its missile program? >> i think we should not be surprised.er was no indication that north korea was willing to denuclearizen a way we want them to. they have continued to do what they said th were going to do, which is mass-produce. e latest revelations are interesting more for the timing of them and for what the north koreans are continuing to do despite the ongoing engagement. jane: what then should the trump administration's response be? jung: i think the response is to continue to talk to our allies, lk to south korea, china japan, and the global community, d talk about how north korea's continuing to bus nuclear weapons program despite engagement. that is important to mre that we keep the pressure on the north koreans to reorient the way they think about their weapons program. while i would say maximum pressure in the form of sanctions and military pressure has been defused quite a bit as a result of kim's charm offensive, it is important to continuehe to rev upanctions and pressure on north korea.

i hear two stories, or two analyses of where north korea is. one says that listen, north korea is never going to give up its nuclear weapons because for this regime that's survival, that's really their only way going forward. on the flip side you hear an counter-argument that the economic pressure is so great for north korea. kim sees this. kim sees that really he can't survive without economic contact with the outside world, economic growth, et cetera. you study this issue closely. which is true? is it somewhere in between? which is closer to accurate in your view? >> it's an open question. and certainly worth testing through negotiation. kim jong-un has said he wants to develop his country economically. he has met with the chinese president, xi jinping, three times this year alone, which is a remarkable turnaround in that relationship. but the question is not whether or not kim jong-un wants to develop his economy. that's been true for every north korean leader since the founding of the country. the question is whether he is willing to give u