in the bible of a bit in the weimar republic that is lloyd and is the ninth of november neither is it has never been able to attain this symbolic of power for true foundation may think it will even commit it republican follow did not like to in the full legal because i meant to a revolution whose son has risen on such an overcast day is to rid of all wrote on its first anniversary in the burn entirely about his paper instead of creating unity to be in all illinois november as a guard member in the ninth of november actually exacerbated the i'll try to get our division of society for parts of the radical left this data start for the alleged betraying the working classes for the right wing enemies of the republic it symbolized their stamina back myth be a lame stock a trail off the us other trying to fight it it was not an accident i never saw the ninth of november nineteen twenty three that i should let shows in here nicholas good for his first attempts to bring down this republic this and i quote this german system isn't about most representative. mudd of the. state it with or by murd

ultimately the weimar republic did not fail because there were too many nuts is too early on because there were too few democrats for too long that is our richard from vied sikka put it in his famous speech committed commemorating forty years of the end of the second world war the turner says is right and it also very clearly marks the difference between then and now. now we are enough democrats who don't risk a thing done at all but if. you defend them fundamental rights our behavior and we should be aware of that makes us role models with no trial of this born or racist fine king no trial this bornand to submit tick and yet jew has become a four letter word in our school in us and that is why teachers in particular need to be courageous and committed democrats whether we're talking sports chemistry or religious lessons and to semitism and racism are never never acceptable on it doesn't matter in which context it's most athletes and there must be no room for understanding you more for and to semitism and racism a clear line has to be drawn here to everything tough i like cultural sc

republic association he and his cohorts want to bring history to life and have a lasting impact on the future. i saw him report briefly he's with us not me father showed us one of the clubs of fathers welcome to day doubly so why do you think germans should care more about the ninth of november nine hundred eighteen bother than the same day nine hundred thirty eight kristallnacht or in one thousand eight hundred nine when the berlin wall came down . and we definitely don't want to create a competition between these three then and i think we think we think they're equally important and they are connected in many ways so one should not overshadow the other definitely and our club is. generally interested in. bringing in a way of civic education the weimer republic closer to the german population because i'm a republican is a forgotten or. public and german they think they think of it only from its very bad ending. the so we think it has to be. it has to be made clear that the beginning of the constitution of the first democratic state in germany was an achievement which was important for

republic which eventually sort of melted into the rise of the nazis but it's important to look back at that time he said as an indication of what germany can be of the pluralism of the openness that was represented even in those days and it's interesting that it wasn't you know why did the nazis pogroms against the jews in one nine hundred thirty eight why were they focused on this date as well not the ninth of november the answer is because the hitler himself and the nazis saw that date with this proclamation of a need germany as an offense to them and indeed five years later in nineteen twenty three. there had been an attempted putsch by hitler which we failed at that time so he felt that somehow you know he was in a battle to prove he's proved his improve the rise of the nazis as his vision of the future germany and so this date continues to carry this burden of you know what kind of a place huge. all the speakers today were making that point that that is the question we should have in our minds today even though history doesn't repeat itself there are trends there are narratives

that sank the weimar republic. guest: most people don't realize one of the reasons the u.s. got into the war was the submarine warfare against british ships with american passengers on board and american ships later on. the british blockade of the north sea -- 500,000 people, younger people, older people especially, far more people than civilians died on the north atlantic from the sufferings. guest: when the british bomber command began to justify the strategic bombing of civilians in world war ii, the explicit justification for that was that it would kill far fewer people than the blockade had killed in 1919. host: john mosier is the author of "the myth of the great war," and michael kazin is the author of "war against war." you said there were a lot of foreign language newspapers in the u.s. a lot of german immigrants who came to the u.s. in the 1880's and 1890's now involved in a battle with cousins and relatives and friends and former neighbors. guest: it was not easy. when the war begins, german-american associations, which were big, dr. by the money of the brewers ass