outlining the concerned raised by kushner by the cia and how mcgann recommended he not be given a top-secret clearance. this reporting also revealed a effort of coordinated lies. >> did you tell general kelly or anyone in the white house to -- >> no, i don't think i have the authority to do that. i don't think i do. but i would never do it. jared is a good -- i was never involved with his security. >> the president had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husband's clearance. >> what were the problems early on? >> there weren't any. >> so no special treatment? >> no. >> there was nobody in the political process that had anything to do with it. there was nobody who pressured it. it was just done the normal, regular way. >> in case you forgot how harshly the republicans treat liars, here they are. >> you're a pathological liar. >> he's going to prison for lying to congress and he's the star witness to congress. >> convicted liar, lying to congress. apparently he died about delivering his own child which his wife had to correct the record. >> liar, liar, pants on fire. it's an

. >> so odni, fbi, cia, office of personnel management. let's talk about the issue of executive privilege. if these memos are indeed problematic and things that the president doesn't want in there, because frankly he is abiding by the law. you may not like the law, but he has this power. we can have a debate about whether he is an butszing that power, but heed had the power to do this. if he screams executive privilege, how strong is the case? >> there are two bases from withholding the documents, executive privilege and it contain classified information. the second one is really not a basis to withhold it from congress because of course congress reviews classified privilege. but executive privilege is trickier. there are few instances in which congress has gotten hands on things where the white house digs in on that. >> help me out with the various security levels. jared kushner was getting a mid level security clearance, not the top secret. explain the difference. >> basically the levels are confidential, secret, top secret and the top level is sci. jared kushner had interim t

know exactly what the fbi and the cia, what their hesitations were about granting this clearance to them, but we know that they raised them and that there was some concern about granting him this top-secret tssci clearance. >> annie, thank you so much. this is some piece. if you haven't read it yet, please check out "the new york times." it's a must read. i want to bring in nbc's jeff bennett, who, of course, is at the white house. jeff, what exactly is the white house saying about this, specifically ivanka trump's office? >> hey, steph. well, the white house isn't saying much, beyond this single-sentence statement. white house press secretary sarah sanders tells nbc news, we don't comment on security clearances. >> except, of course, ivanka did when she was asked three weeks ago by abc! and i believe the answer was, of course not. >> reporter: you're right about that. look, and absent any sort of substantiative comment from the white house about this, we can put this kushner revelation into the broader context of how president trump handles, or some might say, mishandles national s

bertrand and a former chief of staff at the cia and department of defense. here's where i want to go people are saying, what just happened? did we get the mueller report, do we get the end of this? what we got is this four page letter right here, got this four page letter, natasha, and it has i count basically four quotes from the mueller report. none go longer than a full sentence, but it attempts and we'll find out if it works it resolves everything here. this seems to be the weaker side for barr and the president. i will turn to the stronger side with you, because there are no collusion indictments. you were someone who is saying things that some of the viewers thought might mean there were going to be collusion indictments. but your analysis of what you heard, since this is your first time tonight? >> the collusion aspect is really interesting to me base odden what barbara said at the end there. while the president -- the evidence does not establish that the president was involved in the underlying crime related to russian election interference, therefore, the absence of such evi

not over rule the cia. he was willing to over rule the white house official, but when it came to that high level of nci, the cia never granted that. our reporting till this day that kushner does not have it. you can only speculate why that is. one possibility that donald trump does not want to be in another fight with the cia. it is one thing to over rule white house speciecurity specias working for the white house is another thing of the high review of the cia. >> is there anything we are missing from this? >> i think there is this real question of what was the damage that was done? we have seen reports of foreign government trying to influence kushner and reporting that's sketchy whether or not he'll share that. you have to get to the bottom of what was lost. we have not seen any assessment of the damage that could have been done as a result of granting this clearance. >> annie, finally to you, we know this because of contemporaneous memos. memos from everyone that deals with donald trump. this one came from his former chief of staff. >> that's right, everyone around him seems to be

intelligence officials including the cia. donald trump did it any way. which as president he has the perfect right to do and yet, he and his administration and even his daughter, jared kushner's wife, ivanka, repeatedly lied to the public about it. why would they do that? joining me now david k. johnston, founder of dc report.org. malcolm vance and frank figulisi and sarah kenslyier. thank you all for being here. i rarely have these two gentlemen at the desk with me. i'll turn to my illut trius panel. malcolm and david. it is unusual, although the president has the right to offer this security clearance and override his national security officials, doing so for this particular person was unusual for a lot of reasons. can you remind people of why? he wasn't exactly honest in the ways he described his qualifications. >> no. for the first time in my career where i held the top secret clearance for a quarter of a century, i have never heard the phrase unclearable before and that was one of the phrases that was used about jared kushner and 30 other individuals in the white house. with reg

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also, don mcgahn, wrote an outline the cia had of his recommendation that it would be reje rejected. kushner was granted permanent clearance by career officials after the completion of the fbi background check with no involvement by the president. the decision ended months of drama over the matter. john kelly had limited kushner's access to the most sensitive because according to the washington post, he was uncomfortable with kushner's status. president trump backed that decision. take a look. >> that'll be up to general kelly. general kelly respects jared a lot. general kelly will make that call. i won't make that call. i will let the general who's right here make that call. >> u.s. intelligence officials had flagged a number of concerns to the white house like reports, foreign intelligence officials from china and reisrael and mexo were discussing ways they can manipulate kushner and other concerns relating to the trump tower meeting and two other meetings with the russian ambassadors. the russia related context were of particular interest with the special counsel, robert mueller

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use. this is security clearance. the problem is the cia, fbi, john kelly and former white house counsel did not want to give jared kushner security clearance because he's a security risk. and he's a security risk because of all of his compromising financial positions, all of his foreign contacts. he had to submit at least three security clearance forms. i had filled them out in the past, had to submit a form before congress, anybody who had to submit three forms would not have gotten clearance and may have gone to prison for making misleading statements and that's why congressman buyer and i have referred him to justice for potential prosecution. >> wow, thank you for that information. jared kushner's facing investigation for why he did get clearance. i wonder why the president wanted him despite he didn't get clearance. thank you very much, carol lee down in duke where coach k keeps winning. >>> coming up, talking about the clearances and multiple investigations into this president and new miss maile activity in north korea which is scary and humiliating to our president and ou

issues that at the end of the day the intelligence community, the cia specifically, did not believe he should have the highest level of clearance. they were not comfortable with that. >> is this likely to open a new one or was there already an active bucket or sub bucket looking into security clearances? >> this is probably a pail in a bucket. in this case it is the issues that these contacts with russia that has been looked at by mueller, mueller has examined those, has questioned them about it, has questioned kushner about what he knew about flynn's contacts and such, i don't think that the actual security clearance granting is a criminal issue. it is simply something the president can give. it's something derived from the executive branch not governed or overseen by anyone else outside of it. so criminally, there's no indication that this is a problem. >> mike schmitt of the "new york times." with that, let's bring in our leadoff panel for another busy thursday night. former chief counsel to house intel, josh gerstein, jessica roth is back with us as well, former federal prosecut

himself had already revoked the security clearance of a critic, former cia director john brennan so he knew he had the power to do it and it does raise the question of what it was that was the reason for the intelligence community and others and the white house chief of staff took the move saying the president's son-in-law shouldn't get a security clearance. there have been other times where presidents have had family members involved. i worked in the clinton white house where it actually wasn't so good for president clinton or hillary clinton that she played the roles on health care. it's really complicated when you have an advisor you can't dismiss. there's a reason we have these norms and laws and i do think we need to find out not just did he have security clearance. jared kushner has done some good thing it is. we think he's done a good job on criminal justice reform but you don't need a security clearance for that. >> lying is almost a narcotic for trump. i wonder about the impulsive need too lie. it's almost as if the act of doing it is sort of suiting to him. it's as if he tell

subvert american democracy. trump's fbi director said, cia director said, it trump's military people said it. everybody said it. >> and so does the mueller report. >> and they're acting like there wasn't a russian attempt to subvert american democracy. >> what i found really troubling, i want to say sickening was the russians trying to say that they were exonerated by the mueller report. >> if you watch fox news, you would think they were. >> what mueller told us about russia's campaign to subvert our country is some of the most frightening material that he gathered and to this day, donald trump and members of his administration really having accepted, owned up to how serious this was. people in my business make mistakes every day, and we made mistakes in some of our coverage, and we're looking at those and thinking about those, but the basic point you made, that we are out there trying to find the truth with an administration that doesn't always respect it is right, and you know, people in my business have to keep going forward as hard as they can with that job. >> andrea, let me as

, though. the cia never granted jared kushner, our reporting shows and the "post" says this as well, never granded him that s.c.i. designation, which is the richest and best intelligence that top officials review. he doesn't have that, unless the president is handing it to him despite his lack of a clearance. >> which of course, steve rattner, as reckless as these people have been in the white house the past two, two and a half years, who knows if he's doing that again. i'm stub again by hearing republicans acting so shocked that somebody in front of them had told some lies that while they worship at the feet of a man who lies repeatedly and gets caught in these lies every day. "i was never involved in jared's security." "i don't like to get involved in things like that." and ivanka lying saying he was never involved in jared's security clearance or mine. again, just flat out lies. >> usually if you want to tell a lie, you find a way to slightly nuance it. when you listen to the interview with maggie haberman, it was flat out -- i'd like to come back to something you mentioned. i've been w

concerns the krr cia had as well as his own recommendation it be rejected. kushner was granted permanent clearance after the completion of the fbi background check with no involvement from the president. earlier that year john kelly had limited kushner's access to the most snsative secrets because according to the "washington post" he was uncomfortable with kushner's interim security status. president trump backed that decision. >> that will be up to general cell a. he respects jared a lot and general kelly will make that call. i will threat general, who's right here, make that call. >> u.s. intelligence officials had flagged a number of concerns to the white house like reports foreign intelligence officials from the unite arab emirates, mexico and israel were privately discussing ways they could manipulate kushner. and two unreported transition meetings with a russian ambassador and a head of a russian state-owned bank. the russian-related contangts were of particular interest to robert mueller and his team. by kushner's own lawyer and his wife, ivanka trump. >> there were anonymous lea

are active vgdss in the southern district of new york. and the common wlelth of virginia. former cia and former chief council, joyce vance, 25 years as a federal prosecutor. this is a big day for law. what was the biggest moment or revelation, do any of you have a lingering question. councillor, joyce, you go first. >> the most significant thing we learned came in attorney general barr's letter in the first pargraph, the thifrt first thing, there was no request to indict or to subpoena a president that was denied. that was important for the attorney general to say. with that said, there is an enormous this is unlike any other special council case, all over the country and on the hill. more questions left to ask than have been answered. >> jeremy barb, same question. >> there is a report. there is detail in bob mueller's findings, presented that to the attorney general. it is up to the attorney general to i think it will be a constitutional crisis if the attorney general, a presidential appointe tries to shield the findings from congress and the american people. >> frank, same questio

instructions from the president. but one important thing, the cia never did grant kushner that higher level of clearance for sensitive compartmented information. apparently donald trump was willing to overrule the white house bureaucracy but not the cia. >> so let me go back to something that congressman connelly said to me in the last hour which is i want to see those memos. is there anything that would keep them from getting those memos, ken? >> yes, potentially issues of executive privilege. and depending on where these memos are. is this a memo that john kelly has at his house or is it in the white house? the white house may exert executive privilege. it's harder for congress to get testimony from advisors to the president than to get documents that were written sort of pursuant to advice or decisions that the president is going to make. our system wants to allow the president to get free and unfettered advice. that said, look, the house oversight committee has a massive investigation set up right now to look into this whole issue. it wasn't just jared kushner. we reported that 30 other

the cia and other intelligence agencies raised questions, but there's been problems with jared's security clearance from the outset of this administration. if you remember in the first forms he filled out, he failed to list meetings with russian officials on it. you're supposed to disclose all meetings with foreign government officials, and he didn't. and he blamed it on a clerical error at the time. but so we don't know exactly what they objected to, but we know there have been questions about his -- the kushner company, his family's real estate business and their dealings and business dealings with foreign governments. and the bigger question here, though, is, again, why the president, ivanka and jared kushner's lawyer, who all said there was nothing out of the ordinary here when there was, and the president -- kellyanne conway is right in that statement. that the president has the authority to do this, in which case the bigger question here is why didn't he just say i said jared kushner, my son-in-law, he's my guy, i want him -- and i'm giving it to him. >> why didn't he own u

. jeremy bash is back, former chief of staff at both the cia and pentagon. devlin, your reporting catching the attention of everybody here and i'm sure at the jus sttice department and white house. tell us about it. >> we're told, fairly recently, the mueller report will likely not be made public for a number of weeks. that gives us a little bit of a window into how this work is going. obviously, there's a lot to review and there's a couple different steps they have to go through. first of all, being grand jury information, and so, but now we know that's likely to take weeks and, you know, that will be an interesting time period because people are going to keep trying to figure out what really happened until that document is out there. >> and from your reporting, we read this section where you take us inside the room, essentially, where robert mueller told the senior doj officials, the political appointees, the new attorney general barr, with a known point of view on obstruction, and rod rosenstein, a known witness in the special counsel investigation, that he would not reach a co

we seem to have not just two professional -- not just one, but two. the cia, which granted or would have granted his sci and the white house security office which would have handled his top secret. to have the chief-of-staff and apparently the white house counsel both internally memorialize that they have concerns about this is an incredible red flag and that's why, obviously, congress is looking in to it. >> i do want to let you hear what the president said just a matter of weeks ago about all of this to the "new york times." >> did you tell general kelly or anyone else in the white house to overrule security officials? >> no. i don't think i have the authority to do that. >> you do. >> i wouldn't -- i wouldn't do it. jared's a good -- i was never involved with his security. i know that he just from reading that there were issues back and forth about security for -- for numerous people, actually, but i don't want to get involved in that stuff. >> the president saying that he had nothing to do with it, kellyanne conway was talking with my colleague garret hague at the cpac conferenc

cia director toldfo chris matths tonight right after the sentence was handed down. >> it's an extraordinarily lenient sentence in light of the extent and scope of mr. manafort's criminality. it just shows there's a lot of power vesteder in the hands of judges. i think this sentence says a lot more about judge ellis than it does about paul manafort. >> what's it say? >> it says that he has an attitude toward a person of paul manafort's ilk, who has really -- really has defrauded the government, as was demonstrated. >> and , mieke, this is a forme director of the cia who was aware before leaving office of at least the beginnings of the investigation of trump campaign connections to russia. >> yes. and john brennan's got a very long history of service to the nation. and this is a deeprv concern foa lot of people. i do think it's very clear that judge ellis sees some of himself in paul manafort. this concern that, well, if you can get away with cheating on your taxes you can get away with it. i think there's another challenge here, though, when we talk about the pardon for paul ma

about the american people. >> earlier on this very network former cia director john brennan said hat speaker did not, that the mueller investigation will need to make a case against the president that republicans cannot ignore. >> i think it has to be something that is going to be enough to convince the republicans who have just stuck with trump to date to say no this does meet the standards of high crimes and misdemeanors and he needs to be ousted from office. >> as we mentioned, as we talked about here as the weekend got underway, over these next few days we may learn a lot more about the status, the direction and the duration of the mueller investigation. politico reports this week could reveal the special counsel's end game. former obama justice department spokesman matt miller tells politico, "it's one of those moments when a number of the threads are finally starting to merge together, which is to be expected because we do appear to be near the end." in the first of many legal documents this week today roger stone's attorney send a letter saying why he failed to reveal a plan f

unqualified emotion for support. a professor of psychiatry, he wrote the cia profile in this book. he writes, trump has a mirror hungry leader personality which feeds on the adoration of his followers. >> there is so much love in this room, it's easy to talk. there is love in this room. talk your heart out. it's easy. [ cheers ] >> according to the psychiatrist that is studying donald trump and all the public evidence we've seen, the place donald trump goes for love is the cpac stage and the trump rally stages where he stands out there alone surrounded by thousands of strangers who he believes loves him and do indeed appear to love him and donald trump has never suggested that he looks for love anywhere else, listen to his description of his new year's eve. >> so i stayed in the white house. and i'll tell you what, i told my wife go to florida. enjoy your christmas. i stayed for thanksgiving. i said -- i mean, i was in the white house for a long time, months. months. i had cabin fever in the white house. but if you got to have cabin fever, that's the place to do it. but i was there, i

trump's cia director. so that means this guy was serving as a senior official in the trump transition, working on intelligence matters. among other things in that role, he was helping select the next cia director while prosecutors say he was also allegedly at the same time illegally serving as a paid secret agent of a foreign country. oh, what could possibly go wrong? well, now as that guy's case is heading to trial in july, now the reason that mike flynn still hasn't been sentenced, the reason his sentencing has been delayed for another couple of months at least because flynn might be done cooperating with the special counsel's office but he is still working with prosecutors in this case against bijan kian. mike flynn is due to be a witness against bijan kian later this summer in virginia. that is turning out to be an interesting sticking point in terms of how all these cases are wrapping up and all these guys' ultimate fates are being decided because the bijan kian defense team under rights and federal trial procedure they get access to any information the federal governm

sale across the world. at a very basic level, ari, whether you're in the fbi or cia, you can't get security clearance if you have a certain debt to income ratio. under most circumstances, jared kushner would never be allowed to get access to this kind of information because he owes so much money and he's got so much he might want to leverage. the fact that the president said, hey, you can still get into the club, sneak over the back and went over our national security, so much so that kelly felt like he needed to write a memo to say i wasn't in favor of this, indicates how dangerous our national security has been compromised by jared kushner. >> jason, johnson. thank you. >>> coming up, new questions about the trump and moscow project. a special "fallback friday" with a reporter, professor, and sure, throw in a rapper. russia probe edition of the fall back friday. ari melber. you're watching "the beat" on msnbc. msnbc. with giant solutions like turbotax, quickbooks and mint that give everyone the power to prosper. intuit. proud makers of turbotax, quickbooks and mint. i but i can t

power, the abuse of government agencies like the cia to interfere with the fbi. those things ended up being much more what the public focused on. but i think that this series of really first time public hearings is so critical. and we need more of it. the american people want to know and should know. that's whether the evidence ends of exonerating or incriminating the president. we don't know the outcome, but so far the public hearing is incriminating to the president. >> barbara mcquade, as a prosecutor, when you hear congressman gerry connolly say building a case, what you're seeing is congress methodically, as he put it, building a case. and you see we now have three to four committees in active pursuit of building that case. >> yeah. a supervisor of mine when i was a federal prosecutor used to like to use this metaphor to say you know one brick is not a wall, but many bricks are a wall. and so don't expect to advance a case with any one witness or any one document. but if you can assemble enough of them, you can put together a very sizeable and significant case. and so this week i

not be above the law. >> harry, quick, last word, not for nothing, we know that the cia had grave concerns about jared kushner even having access to classified information and the only reason he has any information to chat about on whatsapp or anywhere else is because donald trump overruled the cia. >> that's right. there's a scandal here, by the way, that there was a whistle-blower who tried to put it straight, she got rolled by a political actor and then it went all the way and it was remarkable that knowing who kushner is the white house counsel and kelly, chief of staff, when that information comes out what it was that trump overruled, i think it will be eyebrow raising. >> to say the least. harry litman, thank you for spending time with us. >>> after the break, has donald trump finally done it? has he at long last found an issue where even suck-ups and sycophants can't back him up? php it's tough to quit smoking cold turkey. so chantix can help you quit "slow turkey." along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. with chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease i

-in-law jared kushner top secret security clearances despite flags in the fbi and cia background checks. after the president revoked the security clearance of former cia director john brennan a frequent trump critic. >> the defense department imposed new restrictions on transgender serving in the milling. the policy falls short of president trump's desire to all out ban which he announced in july of 2017. however starting april 12th the new rules will ban transgernd troops and recruits who require treatment for gender dysphoria from serving. and it will require individuals to serve in their birth gender. recruits who don't want medical treatment to serve but they have to serve in their original sex. >>> still ahead, british lawmakers once again for the uk's plans for brexit is out the window. >> we go to london in theresa may's bid to pull out of the eu. >> bill karins is back with another check of your forecast. we'll be right back. i'm 53. but in my mind i'm still 35. that's why i take osteo bi-flex, to keep me moving the way i was made to. it nourishes and strengthens my joint

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to a cia briefing. >> coming up wilbur ross answers questions about whether he lied before congress. plus the best education money can buy next. >>> thing one tonight in the wake of this week's college scandal. donald trump jr. took to twiter to hone those hypocrites. is it just me or is everyone with in hollywood strangely silent? great stuff. just one thing. it appears don jr. and ivanka may have got a whole lot of help from their famous dad. frrbsz donald trump was a target of the school's fund raising efforts dating back to the 1980s. an honor partially designed to inspire donations. don jr. was during his freshman year that trump made his first donation of over $100,000. ivanka then enrolled, at which time the checks were rolling in. he may have donated $1.4 million to penn. >> we know those people. we did grow up to people who donated wings to warden. he couldn't buy our way in, even if he wanted to. >> what's 17 times 6? come on. >> come o you need a calculator? >> 94. >> wrong. >> ivanka. >> it is 1112. 112. >> wrong. >> now let me just tell you that clip went on for a while

further than the evidence. i don't think the cia or legal finding would be there. the indictments are bad and americans should care, let's not get ahead of where the findings are and make too many assumptions. >> and the chair of the in-house committee wants more findings. he say that's a committee will investigation whether or not donald trump or anyone around him is under the influence of foreign governments. >> this is really interesting, for the first time, i heard allen shif question whether or not he investigated enough. it is potentially the final transactions with russia, that chevy suspects, and he thinks his committee will do that. it is looking increasingly like that like there be not be a grand experience time. now they're saying that is not even the most important question here. is he excited in any way. after all, they lawned an investigation secondly committee is going to to go down that road. at the same time, again no public evidence connects the two things but that's what he wants to investigate. >> that's right, you got to talk about it, he was back in here talking to k

a tuesday night. jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and the pentagon, and importantly, former chief counsel to the house intelligence committee. shannon pettypiece back with us as well. and josh, concerning political affairs for politico. josh, considering your experience, what does it tell you that they have hired dan goldman on that committee? what is his job likely to be? >> they want someone with prosecutorial experience, someone who followed a trail of facts, someone who knows how to put witnesses under oath and question them, someone who knows how to hone in on details for an investigation, ultimately someone who knows how to unpack subpoena documents and try to figure out if there was nefarious or illegal activity. that is really something that prosecutors do. congressional staff sometimes does it, but when you're in investigative mode and you're posturing your stance to go after potentially wrongdoing on the committee, it really helps to have a prosecutor like dan on your team. i think people who received these 81 letters from the judiciary committee and others

officials on his first original form. those were not mentioned at the cia red flags. we don't know what they raised. we know various intelligence agency and within the white house, concerns whether he should be granted the top clearance were raised and over ruled by the president. >> let's talk about motivation, i know it is a hard question to answer because you are not inside anybody's head. >> the president says he was not involved and ivanka says she was not involving in security clearance. do we have any reasons why the president and his daughter would not be truth fuful about that, annann annie. >> the president is not truth full about a lot of things, just remember that as a background thing. i don't know if this is motivation but jared and ivanka for a long time felt that john kelly was out to get them somehow and like the president he used tools available to him to elevate allies and punish. he was holding up the security clearance process to hurt them. that's how they viewed it. they view he was trying to hurt them politically and using security process as part of that. >> anni

news outlet this morning, the president wrote new evidence that obama era team at the fbi, doj and cia were working together to spy on and take output. all the way back in 2015. well, the catalyst for his latest outburst, according to the "washington post," was a long debunked conspiracy theory that the fbi infiltrated trump's campaign, something the "post" described as unmitigated nonsense. nonetheless, trump went on to say there should be no mueller report. this was a conflicted investigations in search of a crime. this should never happen to a president again. remember he has a purpose of it creating conspiracy theories, in this case to undermine the whole russia investigation. trump made the false accusation that former president obama had him wire tapped. he's promoted the groundless allegation that it was hillary clinton, not his campaign, that colluded with russia. he said the spells counsel was meddling with the elections and propigated the conspiracy theory that cnn, tipped off, presumably by authorities, to the arrest of roger stone. rrs all of this is to discredit the specia

turned up in kushner's fbi background check and in a cia review that led to him being denied a permanent security clearance until his father in law had to intervene. the president, the

didn't matter. he stands in front of the wall of honor of people who have died in service of the cia and bragged. >> let's take a look. >> he's protective of me and that's what people should take from this is i'm not being asked to choose between my marriage and my job. the president has never made me feel that way. >> you have to do some soap opera explan ayes. why is the president going after george? why is george go after the president? you're nuts. that's very strong. i hear he's a very smart guy, by the way. george. >> he and other republicans thought of this administration and the campaign was a campaign. he's going to govern like a regular president. we all remember those conversations, right? >> hope springs eternal. >> he and so many others are tweeting and angry. kellyanne conway is stuck in the middle in the way no one would want to be. she has a job to do while her husband is attacking her boss. there are people who criticize her about the way she defends the administration. but she's not been picking fights the way her husband has. so it leaves you to shake your head. >>

, jeremy bash, former chief of staff at cia and pentagon, and barrett burger a former federal prosecutor with the eastern and southern district of new york, welcome to you all. chuck i note your time working for and with robert mueller, and i've sorry that you've been something of a mueller whisperer around here. i also know that marine corp. captain mueller is all about chain of command. and sending this to the attorney general was in keeping with the chain of command. the question to you that may require conjecture, why do you think mueller punted, in effect? >> that's a hard question. he is a chain of command guy. as well, brian, the federal regulations that govern the office of special counsel say very clearly that ultimately it's the attorney general who decides what happens to the special counsel's cases. it's crafted so the special counsel has day-to-day independence but it's the attorney general who decides why did he punt on the question, and barrett and i were talking about that before we came on your set. that's a hard thing to know. it might be because you just cannot charge

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security staffer under both obama and bush administrations. and former analyst for the cia. you've got those conflicting vurzs of events. they want all the sanctions taken down and north korea saying it was only partial. what is your understanding of where this broke down and was there somebody around the president who prevailed on him ultimately to take this posture? >> that's a great question because in fact there are people around the president who don't want any sanctions, whether partial or complete until north korea has accomplished what it says it's going to accomplish. opposed when bush talked about what he called an action for action staged agreement on which the united states will release some sanctions in response to progress towards eliminating the nube leer program. so you can imagine in these conversations the last few days that he's talked to the president why that would be a bad idea and so whether in fact north koreans are asking for partial san partial or full sanctions relief -- >> and there was speculation coming into it this that president, especially in light of w

. they mirror wikileaks, and the ahead of the cia is calling top lawmakers saying we really need to focus on that top, and what did the campaign or the president know then and whether or not russia was taking orders from him or vice versa. >> those are big questions, but you're right, there is a coordinate, a massive campaign from the russians, and maybe it had the impact in the margins and this election was won in the margins. >> that is true, hopefully we will find out whatever mueller comes up with. ambassador, good to see you, thank you so much. >> ahead, president trump's epic performance that went on and on and on and on. the two hour soliloquy that still has everyone talking. sol still has everyone talking other species avoid pain and struggle. we actually... seek it out. other species do difficult things because they have to. we do difficult things. because we like to. we think it's... fun. introducing the all-new 2019 ford ranger built for the strangest of all creatures. with retirement planning and advice for what you need today and tomorrow. because when you're with fidelity, t

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