they were contributing in many cases to hillary clinton. hate him with a passion. no they came up with obstruction. said on the general information, there is no obstruction. so you have no collusion, no obstruction. now we are finished with it and i thought after two years, we be finished with it. no, now the house goes and start subpoenaing. assume, for $35 million a check to my financials -- which are great, by the way. you know they are great. they checked my financials and they checked my taxes i assume. it was the most thorough investigation probably in the history of our country. i think i read where they interviewed 500 people. i say it is enough. get back to infrastructure. get back to cutting taxes. get back to lowering drug prices. that is what we should be doing. [reporters talking over each other] pres. trump: we are fighting all of the subpoenas. the democrats are trying to win 2020. they are not going to win with the people that i see, and they are not going to win against me. the only way they can may be is by out, -- luck out, constantly going after

than hillary clinton. >> the only reason that the obstruction of justice did not stick was that a lot of people around the president did not do what he asked him. mrs. conway: that is actually not a legal analysis. i will tell you if the president asked me to break the law, i would walk out the door. all i want to say is that for all of the conversation about what he did and did not ask somebody to do, he has mount -- he is mad about jeff sessions' recusal. he was attorney general for 18 months after that. time again was white house -- at the white house after that. the president has the right to fire any of us. he showed that by firing jim comey. he could have fired mueller. he did not do that. >> the report said that he tried to do so. mrs. conway: intent matters. intent should matter. intent has never matter to you, respectfully. was there intent to collude or to -- intent to conspire, was there an intent to steal the election from hillary clinton, i am sure for whom most of you voted. the intent matters. the intention was not to do that. intent matters, and i know you want to cher

so if you want to know why hillary clinton skated, it's because, as this evidence demonstrates sworn testimony from the fbi, it's because the obama white house and barack obama are implicated in the scandal. lou: that's the bottom line here, and that implication is going to lead us where? >> well, not only to at least a reopening of the investigation. look,. in just the last two months or so -- lou: judicial watch investigation. >> right. judicial watch has uncovered five classified e-mails among the e-mails that hillary clinton tried to delete or destroy -- lou: right. >> -- fbi notes of the sham investigation in 2016, and the notes literally say clinton cover-up operation. they're quoting her i.t. team -- lou: say that again. say that again. >> clinton cover-up operation. lou: that's extraordinary. >> so they literally -- lou: because that would be an open and shut case, right? >> well, the fbi case has evidence documenting, quote, a clinton cover-up -- and mrs. clinton is claiming president trump would have been indicted but for the fact that he's prime minister. lou: -- that he's

hillary clinton did not come during the general election. now everybody is prepared. everyone is going in with their eyes open that this could go either way. that is why you see the democrats holding their convention in wisconsin in milwaukee. it reminds me of 2004 when wisconsin was a top three or four state of the bush and kerry campaign. that drove turn out to an extreme level. host: when president trump turns up tonight, will there be any prominent republican politicians with him? will we see former speaker paul ryan, the former governor on stage with the president? guest: you will not see paul ryan. i'm not sure who is going to be there, but what is interesting is you don't have the same leadership in the republican party as you did in 2016. there was a group that was known as the big three in wisconsin, which was the governor, scott soaringbriefly presidential candidacy that was eclipsed by donald trump. you had reince priebus, who had been the state republican chair and then the national republican chair. these three people brought a lot of money into wisconsin

lou: and failed 2016 presidential candidate hillary clinton, she has surfaced again to claim the only thing preventing an indictment against president trump is that he's in the office. the president's attorney rudy giuliani says hillary should, well, think before she talks. >> there's a woman who really obstructed justice. the president didn't delete 33,000 e-mails, he didn't have somebody smash up telephones and he didn't have someone wipe out a server and bleach bit it. there used to be a standing policy you cannot indict a clinton no matter how much they obstruct justice, no matter how much evidence they destroy and no matter how often they lie and no matter how often they commit perjury. you can't indict a clinton. lou: that's going to be tested, it may appear. joining us tonight, judicial watch president, tom fitton. great to have you with us. let's start with you dish watch's discovery of clinton e-mails in the white house. how could that be? >> it's amazing. we forced this disclosure out of the fbi. look, a federal court ran a you dish watch discovery in the clinton e-mail scan

-- no further than hillary clinton. clear that the obstruction of justice did not stake was that a lot of people around the president did not do what he asked him. kellyanne: i will tell you if the president asked me to break the dog i would -- make a law, i would walk out the door. that fort to say is all of the conversation about what he did and did not ask somebody to do, he has mount about jeff sessions' recusal. attorney general for 18 months after that. the president has the right to fire any of us. he showed that by firing jim comey. he collude fired -- he could've filed -- could have fired mueller. kellyanne: the report said that he tried to do so. >> intent should matter. intent has never mattered. was there intent to collude or to -- intent to conspire, was there an intent to steal the election from hillary clinton, the intent matters. the intention was not to do that. yount matters, and i know want to carry one line here or there because the big lie that you let fly for two years is over. i guess people want

hillary clinton continues toto fuel her collusion fantasy saying she was the victim of "a russian plot." wow. like we have been telling you, an avalanche of truth is coming cascading down. it will expose the deep state. those that abuse power. and this attempt to unseat a duly elected president. we have more later in the program. and the president will join us. h don't forget the other big thing that biden has to run on, that is their failed economic record. let us remind you, i said it a lot in 2016, probably every night because no one else inlm the media would report it. we have 13 million more americans on food stamps. 8 million more in poverty. the lowest labor participation rate since the 1970s. we had the worst recovery in the 8 years of biden-obama since the 1940s. the lowest home ownership rate in 51 years. the only president in the history of the country nevery to reach 3% g.d.p. in 8 solid years. oh, and on top of that, obama-biden they took on more debt than all 43ob presidents before them combined. that's not a record i think i would want to run on. all right. before we get

was making payments to christopher steele, also played by -- paid by hillary clinton. the fusion gps, you would like to see more about that pat -- about that. the texting between two people. timothy, fbi, the department of justice. i think america has been told by all of you that we have a right to know and we want transparency and we want to make sure democracy is honest, and investigate the investigators. the president said that it should never have into another president again. let us see how we got here, how did it start. what -- when it went on stage and encouraged russia to hack the election? >> there was an attempt at obstruction of justice that he was seen and would not allow that. kellyanne: so they found no obstruction. you have got to read the report completely and not just listen to people on tv. i have read the report, and i got it very recently. let me just make the point. the president, if you look at the entire report, the president had the complete right to fire mueller. if he wanted to, he could fire him. he could've just fire him the way that he fire

clinton's campaign for the purpose of eventually publicizing these documents. obtaining such unauthorized access is a federal crime. following a thorough investigation of these operations, the brought charges several russian military officers for their respective roles in these illegal hacking operations. those charges are still pending and defendants remain at large. again, the special counsel's report did not find every -- any evidence that members of the trump campaign or those associated conspired or cord -- coordinated with the russian government in these hacking operations. in other words, there was no evidence of the trump campaign collusion with the russian government's hacking. the special counsel's investigation also examined russian efforts to publish stolen emails and documents on the internet. the special counsel found that after the gru disseminated the documents to some of the -- disseminated some of the stolen documents, it transferred some of the stolen materials to wikileaks for publication. wikileaks made a series of document dumps. the speci

clinton russian contacts with members of trump's inner circle were bedi including with his son donald jr who is not be charged with any crime his lawyer michael cohen and campaign manager paul bene fort both colored and man a ford are now headed to prison for a lawyer to the government about their actions however mohler and is a vest a gator say there's not enough proof of a bigger conspiracy or of presidential interference if we had called that it's after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice we would so state based on the facts and the applicable legal standards however we are able to reach that judgment but mohler at mit's never compel trump to sit for an interview in the interest of time raising questions in congress and the general public about how thorough this investigation really was rosalind al-jazeera washington. while president may be declaring total victory the democrats want and tromso tenney general to testify before congress they also want access to the full unedited version of the reports alan fisher has

clinton loses which she lost and lost big. this is been going on for years. now they want to keep going on, they spent over $30 million on investigation and they found no collusion which by the way was the most ridiculous premise i ever heard. you understand exactly what i mean. no collusion, there never was. after $30 million we will start the process again because jerry nadler was the started or because shift was to started. all rely on the attorney general to make decisions but i will tell you anything that is given to them will never be good enough and you can give them the more documents that they've ever seen and it would never be good enough. so i think it's a waste of time. it's politics at a low level. >> what about in 1998? >> it's nice that you bring that up. jerry nadler was on the opposite side of this and he thought it was a disgusting terrible thing to even think about giving the report but now we should give the mueller report. in the mueller report is much tighter because the other report went to congress and

clinton russ upon tax with members of trump's inner circle where betty including with his son donald jr who is not be charged with any crime his lawyer michael cohen and campaign manager paul man a fort both kohen and man a ford are now headed to prison for a lawyer to the government about their actions however mohler and his investigators say there's not enough proof of a bigger conspiracy or of presidential interference if we had called wouldn't after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice we would so state based on the facts and the applicable legal standards however we are able to reach that judgment but muller at mit's he never compel trump to sit for an interview in the interest of time raising questions in congress and the general public about how thorough this investigation really was rosalind al-jazeera washington. and while president trump may be declaring total victory democrats want mother around trump's attorney general to testify before congress they also want to see the full on a diversion of the report an

that's what got everyone outraged at what fbi director comey did in the case of hillary clinton. >> okay. so the regulation back to longstanding policy is what justifies that exception, right? in your view? >> the regulation that says any release has to be consistent with that. >> good. let's go to 6 e for a second. before i get to 6 e, are you maintaining or will you maintain any right to withhold any information in that report based on a so-called claim of executive privilege? >> am i what? >> are you going to claim that you have a right to withhold any of that report based on a so-called claim of executive privilege? >> any claim of executive privilege would have to be aser asserted by the president. as i said in my letter which sort of speaks for itself, he has said that he's leaving the decisions up to me. >> okay. are you going to claim executive privilege to keep any of that report back? >> as i said there's no plan on it. i have no plan to do that. >> okay. do you believe that executive privilege applies to any broader range of communications and specific direct communications fr

clinton was the document that was paid for by the d.n.c. that dorsey that they believe started this entire investigation which of course simply isn't true so it's going to be interesting to see how the white house and particular donald trump tries to spin this over the next couple of hours just interestingly enough donald trump is no acting is a jeweler for his funds for his supporters on twitter he's directing them to watch bill barr the attorney general during his news conference and directing them to fox news and one american news channels which have been very supportive but clearly donald trump believes that what bill bart is going to see be that bad for him if he's actually people to choose in and watch i think it's important to point out it is very unusual perhaps unheard of for a sitting u.s. president to talk about parts of the justice department that way and about his political enemies that way and to tweak the way he does so it's going to be going to an interesting few hours allan thank you very much and again just to remind you a

clinton he actually has done that that's that's absolutely a fair point so going forward how do you think this is going to play out in the next few hours as members of congress get their hands on this and as journalists finally get their hands on this as well so what we saw from the first press conference is that journalists are in a hurry their way through stories quickly they just. the conclusion then that was the main story in the so-called liberal media everywhere right. but i think the real story is not what spins out in the next hour but i you really need to do is stop slow down read the report have some hearings because there's going to be a lot of rich information in there that we need to digest absolutely a lot a lot and that there's a lot of people that bear responsibility for getting that right side thank you very much for those that were georgetown university right let's turn to alan fischer who has been covering this live at the white house been keeping track of the white house's response to this and we do have some tweets from the president allan have we actually gotte

said it was about adoption anden the admitted it was about getting dirt on hillary clinton. and the president initially hped craft that cover letter. do you think we're going to get answers to those questions? >> we may. but there's still some investigations are going on. let's remember what woo already know. one is the meeting occurred with no notification by anyone in the trump campaign to the fbi that the russians were offering dirt. the are lies about the meeting, a couple dozen. we know that from mueller'sings have. and then there's the cover up by trump about what the meeting was about. nt and to the meeting, the fbi briefed the trump campaign about attempts by the russians to get into their campaign and muddy up the democratic process. at no stage during this entire couple month period do the trump people say you know what? we actually were approached by them. we met withthem. and there may not be the intent. they lied about a meeting that thaw were willing to have to get dirt by a foreign entity about an -- about the election and the other candidates. >> and we know

changed ina dirt on hillary clinton was changed in a press release to indicate it was an adoption. he was trying to get michael cohen to talk about the deal at the moscow tower in a matter that made it seem like it wasn't going on during the election. this isa going on during the election. this is a president who has over and over again that i don't know if you can hear me. i can hear you find. we will try and get back in just a second and sort out these technical issues. congress is in recess at the moment. as soon as we get back up again, we shall talk to her. one of the things this report does is put all of this to democrats in congress. mueller has effectively said here is what i have found, this is what i haven't found, i will not draw a conclusion on this. congrats, it is now up to you. as we were saying, for democrats that is a double edged sword. do they go down the route of impeaching the president based on some of the things that mueller has said or do they decide that that is a stretch too far in terms of the legality of this and that they do not have a strong enough cas

i and where nancy pel hillary clinton are. let's have the committees do their work. let's have people like bob muellerand don mcgahn testify whether it be on live television and build aase for the american people first. abraham lincoln said public sentiment is everything. we have to carry the american people with us we first have to let the committees do their work. >> doic democra lawmakers like jarred huffman have a point when they say thatenhere's p in the mueller report to show obstruction of justice and if you don't impeach now, you are not upholdingour constitutional responsibility. but rather insteadetng political calculations dictate this proerss. do lawmon the democratic side who hold this point of view have a point? >> no one wants politics ct e this. there's not going to be some poll that dermines whethere should impeach or not but i think the responsibity iso be deliberative and let the process play out. we just got the mueller report. we shouldn't rush to jue ment. ould have the hearings and see where the facts lead and have the testimonies. that's the p

and by 2016 showed support for president trump and disparage hillary clinton. and released information through wikileaks. mr. mueller wrote that the investigation did not establish that members of the trump campaign conspired. let me step back and weoced on the obstruction. there is an enormous volume on russian interference. is this u.s. government and a president who has been skeptical of russian sbrerns do they address it? >> it's hard to say. attorney germ barr said there were efforts from the russian government to interfere. they had a sweeping wayf interfering with the 2016 election. i was atanding few feet at 11:00. the first thing i read was that line, russia interfered with the election. apart from this argument, we are americans and we have a foreign government interfered and setting up in houston, texas, where they had one side for one thing and possibly, i'm thinking behind the scenes there are officials that will figure out that 2020 is different. it's hard to say because i looks as though the president doesn't want to bn s as an illegitimate presi

she asked comey why the fbi did not move to suppress information about hillary clinton. watch. >> lock her up was a feature of the trump campaign. do you wish people like yourself and the people in charge of law and order had shutdown that language, that it was dangerous? that it could have created violence? it's hate speech. i should that have been allowed? >> that's not a role for government to play. the beauty of this country is people can say what they want even if it's misleading.rn >> tucker: according to cnn's most famous anchor federal agents with guns should have arrested anyone criticizing hillary clinton because it was hate speech. meeting speech hillary clinton hates. she said that on television. that's what she thinks. that's what a lot of people on the left think. he same people calling you a fascist because you don't believe in academic gender theory or global politics. whatever idea they are forcing down your throat. they want the fbi to arrest you for saying the one thing. let's pray they never get power. democrats are now the party of "me too." they bel

hillary clinton is that powerful? >> the hillary stuff is a sort of useful tool to you know basically move on from the mueller report because you don't want to talk about the fact that all these trump administration officials basically opened a vein about mueller and did so on the record. that's a much more inconvenient moment for them. it can't be said enough that the president is in campaign mode. yes, he is in campaign mode like 35% of the country. don't believe anything anyone else says. i guess add a lindsey graham to the group. >> they lost 40 seats in the house. he thinks i'm on the ballot next year. another part, the president thinks some things only happen to him. the president is incredueilous. the strong economy on his watch. saying the u.s. is probably doing better than ever economically. on twitter the president wrote this. you mean the stock market hit an all time record high and they are talking impeachment. president clinton may have felt the same way. the dow hit record highs a month before president

number two, the actual dossier that was used was paid for by hillary clinton. when you spend $6 million on opposition research, you know who is getting their money. fusion gps did not get the $6 million, i bet you they didn't get to percent of the $6 million. the money went to russia and they knew it. on top of that. that obama campaign fund he still probably has millions of dollars left in those coffers, they went and spent $972,000 themselves to pay the russians. and the new where this money was going. so when you talk about colluding, that is collusion. the back part of it all, they thought they were getting a bag of gold, and all they really got was a bag of dirt. now, they are really crying, they are going off the rails. host: ok, a lot there. heather. guest: my understanding, the special counsel's office was to look at two specific questions, interference in the election and the second question, of obstruction of justice. in the other issues that would arise during -- and any other issues that would arise during the investigation. in my view, mr. mueller

it says russians have dirt on hillary clinton. it didn't say stolen, taken, and nothing connects it to donald trump. why didn't they tell him this was a problem like they did with feinstein which she had a chinese communist spy influence her? >> i want to -- >> let me finish. they told her, they told her she had a spy working for her. trump didn't have a spy working for him. trump turns out to be totally innocent. >> why so angry at the russians? >> because the russians didn't try to frame him. he's angry at the russians for interfering in the election. he's angrier at the people who tried to take away his presidency based on a plan done by strzok, prevent and remove. and you avoid it. the slightest evidence about trump, boom, this is real evidence. it's real evidence that the steele dossier is phony. that it was a fraud on the court. >> all right. steele dossier barely mentioned in the mueller report for what it's worth. i think this has been -- >> yeah, for good reason. you make my point. for good reason. it makes him innocent.

clinton is in the same place and hillary clinton is leaning into the notion that she believes that the hearings would lead to an impeachment inquiry. i'm not sure nancy pelosi is quite there yet. >> stick around. there is more news. we have to follow and we'll do that right after a quick break. missing. e the ceramides in cerave. they help restore my natural barrier, so i can lock in moisture. we've got to have each other's backs... cerave. now the #1 dermatologist recommended skincare brand. has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. we're the tenney's we're the hayles, and we're usaa members for life. ♪ get your usaa auto insurance quote today. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ at a comfort inn with a glow taro

clinton ross upon tax with members of trump's inner circle were bending including with his donald jr who is not be charged with any crime his lawyer michael cohen and campaign manager paul bana fort both cullen and man a ford are now headed to prison for a lawyer to the government about their actions however muller and his investigator say there's not enough proof of a bigger conspiracy or of presidential interference if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice we would so state based on the facts and the applicable legal standards however we are able to reach that judgment but muller at mit's never compel trump to sit for an interview in the interest of time raising questions in congress and the general public about how thorough this investigation really was rosalind al-jazeera washington. but while president may be declaring total victory the democrats want and trump's attorney general to testify before congress they also want access to the full unedited version of the report and fisher has the la

the most negative things about biden have come from hillary clinton and obama staffers. is it because you saw him upclose? >> i love joe biden -- >> i'm not talking about you. i'm saying privately. >> i think -- so candid, okay. >> shame on you. >> i actually think -- okay. so i wanted joe biden to get into the race in 2016 because i am probably the only hillary clinton staffer who did because i thought more competition would be good for her and i thought she would probably beat him. but if not, if he won, so be it. there is some -- you know, so there's a little about him, you know -- he wasn't always the most supportive from the sidelines. so you might -- that might be reflected in how the clinton staff feels. and obama staff, i was an obama staffer who worked great with the vice president and had a lot of respect for him and think he is a very good person at governing and very good person at politics. not everybody felt that way. >> all right. keeping it real. pushing back, keeping it real. >> this is super real. >>> after the break with, donal trump has come a long wa

people that were upset that hillary clinton didn't win, still can't get over the results of the 20 sexting election trying to implement some sort of change, trying to get rid of this president and it's disgusting that it had to happen. as donald trump, as our president said, he hopes to see this happen to no one else. this is crazy. this is not the way things should function in the united states of america. >> i totally agree with you. i picks up on something, that they want to focus on scandal while the president and his team just want to focus on the substance and what actually matter to real people in the real life. i want to pick up on one of those areas that's going to be crucial. it was a big story this week which is healthcare. we heard the news that the administration gets behind trying to have obamacare overturned, the president promising the republicans will be departing great healthcare. how do you see that moving forward. when do you think we might see a plan emerge and again, how is that really going to play a part in the 2020 campaign. >> listen, we know obamacare is a comple

dirt on hillary clinton. and we know, for example, that donald trump hillary clinton. and we know, for example, that donald trumer said that if it is what you say it is i love it. people will be asking questions about, how did that not result in any investigations? as far as we know donald trump result in any investigations? as far as we know donald trumer wasn't questioned by the special counsel. there is certainly no public indictment of him for that. people will be saying, what was that all about? conspiracy, coordination, whatever you want to call it, doesn't have to be successfully achieved in order to be charged. so, what was the reasoning in the mueller investigation for that not becoming a big deal? things like that people will ask, they will ask about the passing of polling data, the internal polling data from the campaign chairman paul manafort who of course is going to prison to that former military intelligence officer. what was that all about? why wasn't that regarded as sufficiently serious to take further by the mueller report, despite the fa ct by the m

clinton russian contacts with members of trump's inner circle where betty including with his son donald jr who is not be charged with any crime his lawyer michael cohen and campaign manager paul bana fort both kohen and man a ford are now headed to prison for a lawyer to the government about their actions however muller and his a vest a gator say there's not enough proof of a bigger conspiracy or of presidential interference if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice we would so state based on the facts and the applicable legal standards however we are able to reach that judgment but muller at mit's he never compel trump to sit for an interview in the interest of time raising questions in congress and the general public about how thorough this investigation really was rosalyn short al-jazeera washington. while president trump may be declaring total victory the democrats won and trump's attorney general to testify before congress they also want access to the full unedited version of the reports alan fi

i think those are exactly hillary clinton's words. but i think that we also have to -- this isn't about -- this isn't about making decisions for people, this is about providing the opportunity for them to hear directly and decide for themselves. we're not going to be framing anything. this is direct access to hear from the witnesses and to hear the facts in a firsthand way that you can only get from -- you know, from opportunities like this. and then ultimately people will be able to decide for themselves what they believe and whether they think that this kind of behavior is right or wrong and how we need to move forward as a country. >> just in terms of the subpoenas from your committee and the house, the president weighed in on those today from the south lawn. i just want to play that for our viewers. let's listen. >> we're fighting all the subpoenas. look, these aren't like impartial people. the democrats are trying to win 2020. they're not going to win with the people that i see. and they're not going to win against me. the only w

clinton being offered by the russians a lot of these these elements are being laid out especially on the obstruction of justice front and that's really where i think a lot of the focus is going to turn to well there were two cases in this report where we're mothers says you know we were almost there in terms of obstruction of justice the report concludes that the only thing that separated from obstructing justice was the fact that the people he asked to do that for him always said. that could i read that and i thought well isn't this something that's impeachable that it's right there in black and what isn't isn't that a massive irony that in this a lot of the stuff is already come out in bob woodward's reporting from his book last year where he basically said you know a lot of trump's mandates to his staff rob porter apparently corey lewandowsky and others were just not acted upon because the staff knew that this would get the administration an extremely hot water so the irony here is that he actually has a staff that's really looking out for his best interest the question is a quest