fabius: no, moderate opposition. they consider everyone who is against mr. bashir assad a terrorist. no. france is concerned and other countries as well, say , that if it is against daesh and al qaeda, it is ok. we have to quit and it are action because we ourselves are against daesh and al qaeda. but if it is, how can i put it, some sort of pretense to fight against the opposition and reinforce assad, that is another story. that is the point. charlie: who said assad has to be the future of syria? charlie: iran. f.m. fabius: when you discuss that with russia, they say, we will see. what are they doing today? reinforcing him. charlie: they say that. the russians say that. they say they are there to prevent assad from being overthrown because they think they need him. f.m. fabius: the argument is very good. to avoid that is not to maintain assad for eternity. it is not a matter of person, i have to be clear. you cannot have a contradiction. imagine you are a syrian. your family has been destroyed by assad. it is the situation of more than 50% of the population

fabius, and he will continue to stay in touch with world leaders in the days to come. yes? >> [inaudible] >> at this point, to answer your second question first, at this point i'm not aware of any full security council meeting as you will be aware. the secretary-general did speak to the permanent members of the security council already. he intends to speak to the nonpermanent members of the security council in the days to come. i think that will probably be on tuesday. we can give you more details as we get closer to that. with regard to your first question, i would simply say that the secretary-general took note of the announcement by president obama yesterday on the referral to congress. i can tell you he regards it as one aspect of an effort to achieve a broad-based international consensus on measures in response to any use of chemical weapons. use of chemical weapons will not be accepted under any circumstances and there should be no impunity and any perpetrators of such a horrific crime against humanity must be held accountable. the u.n. investigation mission should be

thank you, mr. minister. back in a moment. stay with us. laurent fabius is here, the foreign minister for egypt's. government. government's government is now revising the constitution adopted after the ousted president of mohammed morsi. it's a road map to reconciliation. a cairo court ordered the muslim brotherhood. i am pleased to welcome him to this table. welcome back. it's good to see you. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: so, there's so much to talk about in terms of assessment where egypt is and all of that. but first the united nations. you have been here. obviously, there is now, on a friday afternoon, the news that the president of the united states had a phone conversation with the president of iran. what do you make of that? >> first of all, i've been around the u.n. for a long time. in most general assemblies, there's always a star, or there's one star that's brighter than the others. >> rose: right. and the star this year. >> was iraq and the new president. it's an important country. he's newly electedly. he's considered to be a

fabius' increasing rule -- increasing role. on several occasions, that iran has to do more than they were offering on the nuclear deal. people had to remind -- people have been bringing them back. stuart: thank you so much. arthur mcmillan speaking live from tehran. the leader of turkey's pro-kurdish operation has called for immediate hold tossed a lit is on both sides after turkish airstrikes. saying hostilities should immediately come to a halt and all parties should act with common sense. it comes after the turkish president has said that his country cannot continue a peace process with the kurdish pkk. we go to jasper mortimer joining us on the turkish-syrian mortar -- the turkish-syrian border. last night a legend positions in turkey and syria were attacked. what does that say about the current conflict? jasper: it shows how much the conflict has escalated. since monday morning guerillas allegedly blew up a gas pipeline in eastern turkey, blew up a road bridge in southeastern turkey, and they have been killing or kidnappin