i'm pleased today to welcome the foreign minister of france our ally mr laurent fabius and his delegate in the kingdom of saudi arabia, and to welcome you in this conference. our cooperation we have discussed with the minister this morning. with an interview, a servant of the holy site. many issues that are of importance to both countries, and the discussion with the minister with the servant of the holy site was important and critical. the minister's visit reinforces the relations between the two countries and the continued coordination over a variety of regional and international issues that are common to us country. naturally one of the common reasons for the visit, and receiving a letter from the french president - today we held a discussion an expanded discussion, and i will classify them as fruitful and construct constructive and it covers the development in the bilateral relationships and via the mechanisms represented in the joint saudi arabia committee, concerned with researching and cooperation on governmental levels and business relationships for actioning the cooperation on

in new york, ambassadors heard a briefing from mr. de mistura, from his office in paris. >> what we're going to hear from staffan is what progress has been made. >> the russian ambassador knows his own government has problems with the current plan. president vladimir putin was meeting the emir of qatar in moscow. the russian leader will have made it clear he believes the list for opposition delegation drawn up in saudi arabia should have more secular figures and rechtiorepresentation from kurdh groups. there is another program even those currently on the opposition list are not currently scheduled to attend geneva, they want assurances that the same thing that happened two years ago will not be repeated. if that happens again the u.s. and its allies have a plan b. it's thought this time around the form he would begin with days of what are known as proximity talks, in the u.n. headquarters in g7 the two sides will be kept in separate rooms with mr. de mistura shuttling between them. i'm told that mr. de mistura has said that anyone who takes part in the talks will not be part of the tra

fabius: no, moderate opposition. they consider everyone who is against mr. bashir assad a terrorist. no. france plus concern, and other countries as well, say that if it is against daesh and al qaeda, it is ok. we ourselves are against daesh and al qaeda. but if it is, how can i put it, some sort of pretense to fight against the opposition and reinforce assad, that is another story. who said assad has to be the future of syria? charlie: iran. f.m. fabius: when you discuss that with russia, they say, we will see. what are they doing today? reinforcing him. charlie: they say that. the russians say that. they say they are there to prevent assad from being overthrown because they think they need him. f.m. fabius: the argument is very good. avoid that is not to maintain assad for eternity. it is not a matter of person, i have to be clear. imagine you are a syrian. your family has been destroyed by assad. it is the situation of more than 50% of the population, and you say to this family, ok, assad is the one. no. it is not possible. they want to go to daesh. we wa

fabius, and he will continue to stay in touch with world leaders in the days to come. yes? >> [inaudible] >> at this point, to answer your second question first, at this point i'm not aware of any full security council meeting as you will be aware. the secretary-general did speak to the permanent members of the security council already. he intends to speak to the nonpermanent members of the security council in the days to come. i think that will probably be on tuesday. we can give you more details as we get closer to that. with regard to your first question, i would simply say that the secretary-general took note of the announcement by president obama yesterday on the referral to congress. i can tell you he regards it as one aspect of an effort to achieve a broad-based international consensus on measures in response to any use of chemical weapons. use of chemical weapons will not be accepted under any circumstances and there should be no impunity and any perpetrators of such a horrific crime against humanity must be held accountable. the u.n. investigation mission should be

options to help end the conflict in syria were never good, and they are much worse and fewer now, but as mr. fabius pointed out, as bad as our options in syria may be, we still have options, and no one should believe that doing something meaningful to help in syria requires total war or invasion. literally no one is calling for that, and it is intellectually dishonest to suggest so. this is not a question of options or costs or capabilities, but a question of will. the continued violence in syria is expected to kill tens of thousands more and produce millions of refugees by the year's end. this is a humanitarian tragedy, to be sure, but one with immediate strategic consequences. the longer the devastation goes on, the more difficult it will be to put syria back together again, and failing to do so will leave a dangerous conflagration in the heart of the middle east. a failed state at war with itself where extremism and instability will fester and terrorists of all brands will find ample space, resources and recruits to menace the region and eventually attack the united states. if ever there

mr. president, you have a problem. the problem is you are shrinking. in 2002 -- >> you know, my suit started looking back he last met. >> in 2002 you had -- >> not shrinking enough, i can tell you that. >> you had a 13 million members. last year you had 11 points 5 million members. what do you do to get more members of? >> well, i mean, we are doing several things. the short answer to that is the same thing with to do to make the country better. one, we have to change the political climate, the legislative, and economic climate. >> that's all? >> that's all. we can do that before lunch and after lunch we will play ball. no, we are working on it. but what we're doing is expanding out to our progressive friends. because when you put the policies of progressive americans together, we are actually the majority. but we don't act like that and we've been allowed to be even in echelon, a section at a time. so we are trying to put together a coalition of progressive people. we reached out before

thank you, mr. minister. back in a moment. stay with us. laurent fabius is here, the foreign minister for egypt's. government. government's government is now revising the constitution adopted after the ousted president of mohammed morsi. it's a road map to reconciliation. a cairo court ordered the muslim brotherhood. i am pleased to welcome him to this table. welcome back. it's good to see you. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: so, there's so much to talk about in terms of assessment where egypt is and all of that. but first the united nations. you have been here. obviously, there is now, on a friday afternoon, the news that the president of the united states had a phone conversation with the president of iran. what do you make of that? >> first of all, i've been around the u.n. for a long time. in most general assemblies, there's always a star, or there's one star that's brighter than the others. >> rose: right. and the star this year. >> was iraq and the new president. it's an important country. he's newly electedly. he's considered to be a

fabius' increasing rule -- increasing role. on several occasions, that iran has to do more than they were offering on the nuclear deal. people had to remind -- people have been bringing them back. stuart: thank you so much. arthur mcmillan speaking live from tehran. the leader of turkey's pro-kurdish operation has called for immediate hold tossed a lit is on both sides after turkish airstrikes. saying hostilities should immediately come to a halt and all parties should act with common sense. it comes after the turkish president has said that his country cannot continue a peace process with the kurdish pkk. we go to jasper mortimer joining us on the turkish-syrian mortar -- the turkish-syrian border. last night a legend positions in turkey and syria were attacked. what does that say about the current conflict? jasper: it shows how much the conflict has escalated. since monday morning guerillas allegedly blew up a gas pipeline in eastern turkey, blew up a road bridge in southeastern turkey, and they have been killing or kidnappin