>> guest: well, it's one of those answers that run the gamet. first and i think most interestingly, you had those led by ideology, and we have instances of young men who joined the north because they wanted to help free the slaves. actuallythere were those who saw slavery as the issue. more interestingly and counterintuitively to today, there were young men who joined the southern cause and rarely endured great amount of difficulty to get there, get on a boat and then enlist, and so they often are the most ease centric or interesting characters to be honest. >> host: you know, i was living in london for a couple months this spring, and i think you've done this too. i went on a walking tour of civil war london and particularly confederate london, and i was surprised, even though i study the the period a -- studied the period a great deal and how many people empathize with the confederacy. you talk about this in the book, members of parliament, church leaders, scholars, people invested in cotton bonds, but why was there so much sympathy for the co

we deal with a whole gamet. again, not getting into specifics whether it's domestic violence, learning cultural norms for local law enforcement here, but that trust may be the piece of the puzzle that gives us information later to stop something bad from happening or stop some young man or young woman from becoming radicalized. >> you said something pretty significant in your testimony that just kind of -- i'm a retired navy captain, been around several countries, and 95% of us just want a safe place to lay our heads at night and a great place to raise our children. i appreciate that. you stated the cutting of individuals in the united states to provide financial support for al-shabaab is crucial to diminish shabaab's ability to carry out the operations. you referred to individuals in the united states that have hawala, the money transfer system to transfer to al-shabaab activities. can you talk about this and the specific focus on the minnesota base for funding al-shabaab? >> yes, i can. i think the clearest is

marginal top tax rate for corporate businesses, but the effective tax rate which is low because the gamet of tax loopholes. we started the conversation about closing loopholes during the debt ceiling debate, and so far, republicans have been somewhat reluctant to start the conversation. >> host: we're having an economic round table here on the "washington journal" until 9:15 eastern tim. christian weller is senior fellow for the center progress and diana furchtgott-roth is at the hudson institute, and two perspectives about the economy, how wall street is reacting, what the fed might do at the meeting, and also what president obama said yesterday and republican leaders on how to spur economic growth. here's president obama on payroll tax cuts and unemployment. >> specifically, extend the payroll tax cut as soon as possible so workers have more money in their paychecks next year, and businesses have more customers next year. we should continue to make sure that if you're one of the millions of americans who is out there looking for a job, you can get the unemployment insurance that your ta