in wisconsin. what was the single most important issue that you saw people present to senator ted cruz. what were they interested in then. >> people were worried about the economy and upward mobility. ability of poor and middle class america to get ahead to. work their way out of poverty. to work their way up the economic ladder. they fear that as washington insiders have colluded, that as washington, d.c. has extended its reach, it's made upward economic mobility more difficult. made jobs more scarce. and made it harder for americans to get ahead. >> we understand as doug reported that talk radio is a big deal in terms of influencing vote in wisconsin. and they are behind your candidate. >> that's right. there is a lot of conservative talk radio in wisconsin. and a lot of people who have really delved into the policy issues. and that's really ted cruz's strong suit. it's where he does well because he can tell you what he thinks about the fundamental purpose of government, big picture issues like f

central time across wisconsin. let's go to a great town in wisconsin. talk to tony who is standing by in green bay. what would an outsider notice at these polling locations across wisconsin today and tonight? >> reporter: you might notice that the line is about as long as the line outside a green pay pa -- bay packers game. it stretches all this way. people are doing all they can to stay into it. a guy is reading a fantasy novel. some people have looked at the line and left. it's a really hopeful and excit excited crowd here. there's a married couple, 41 years. they're getting some quality time in they didn't expect. catching up on e-mail, facebooking. we have three generations of women, grandma, mom and daughter. they're not sure who they will vote for. they are trying to make up their minds. that's new voter registration behind me. you see the family registering for the same time. wisconsin has same-day voter registration. again the line, the lines. turn out is part of it. there's also the new voter id law that's slowing things down. there's a bottlen

the question is northwest wisconsin, southeast wisconsin, some of the more working-class, rural areas, harder to predict. >> donald trump said he could be presidential if he wants to be, but he's not ready to be that yet. let's watch him. >> i could be presidential. but if i was presidential, we'd only have about 20% of you would be here because it would be boring as hell. now, let me be unpresidential just for a little while longer. and maybe i'll be a little unpresidential as i beat hillary because, oh. we'll beat hillary so badly. don't forget, i haven't started on hillary yet. >> now, robert, i'll get to the other later, but you have been watching this. is this his way of saying don't held me to some test of president fitness. it's too early for that. don't ask me if i can say things correctly or not. let me make my mistakes. let me test the air, let me have fun with all the schtick of mine. is that what he's trying to say to smooth over what happened last week? >> he's not just talking to the press. he's talking to his family, to his friends, his closest advisers. based on my rep

it's the final push for wisconsin. they are in a dead heat in wisconsin. do they think they'll be able to pull a victory off tomorrow? >> i think they do, anderson. you hear bernie sanders there talking a very big game about what he's expecting out of his performance tomorrow night in wisconsin. the campaign is looking a lot at michigan where we saw that upset. they think the demographics of michigan are replicated in wisconsin. and also that he's going to be doing really well with college students and also with labor voters. you've seen that in his final push. he's emphasizing free public university for students and also he's really trying to critique hillary clinton on her past support, her trade agreements, nafta and the asia pacific partnership that she supported as secretary of state and is now against. so i think this is certainly something that they are feeling very confident about, but the question is, what is the margin going to be. because these delegates are awarded proportionately. polls show them neck and neck. >> after wisconsin there's new y

crosse, wisconsin. a lot of pressure on trump to win this state tomorrow. let's listen in. >> this was this beautiful woman. oh. i wanted to grab that television set and hug it. i want to find out this woman, and she said, and all my friends feel the same way. it's amazing. it's amazing. we have a powerful group. we have a wonderful, wonderful group of people. who is out there shouting? i love that. thank you. i love you. i love you, too. believe me. so we have this great -- we have this great group of people. i think we're just going to have a phenomenal time. look, what am i talking about? i'm talking about simple, we're talking about -- oh, get him out. here we have our standard, you know, stand up and shout for a couple seconds. all right, get him out, please. [ chanting "trump" ] >> i wonder what state he came from. they send them around. the last person hillary wants to run against is donald trump, believe me, folks. and they send them around. yeah, okay, good. yeah, fine. it actually sort of make

. ♪ racine, wisconsin. he's down about ten points in the latest fox business network poll in that state. and as we just heard from vicki mckenna, had a tough time with a couple of the talk radio hosts. we'll see if he addresses that, among other issues to rather boisterous crowd warmed up by sarah palin. here now, mr. trump. >> who is willing to take her time and come here, and wire going to make two other stops, and she wants to go and she's just an amazing -- she has that energy. and the big brain power. and we just love a. so i want to thank you, sarah, okay? and stephanie, i want to thank you so much. what a job. stand up, stephanie. come on. what a job she's done. of course, if we don't win on tuesday, that's the end of stephanie, right? but she has done -- she has done an amazing job. and i think we're doing really well based on everything i'm hering. we have tremendous enthusiasm, tremendous support. different areas. we have different folks for different strokes, frankly. there are some areas where i

which i'm biased, i married a girl from wisconsin, so i love wisconsin. so he definitely has the advantage here. does that change the fundamental math? no. >> lieutenant governor lawton, i want to play hillary clinton talking to chuck todd. she has made the point when confronted with a greenpeace activist that she's sick and tired in her view of the sanders campaign lying about her taking money from people who work in the fossil fuel industry. >> i feel sorry sometimes for the young people who believe this. they don't do their own research. and i'm glad that we now can point to reliable independent analysis to say, no, it's just not true. >> lieutenant governor lawton, what did you make of those remarks? >> well, one has to be careful before you insult young people who actually do careful research, and as i understand it, there are 43 lobbyists who have maxed out to her campaign who work for the fossil fuel industry. what's going to be interesting in new york is that bernie sanders has put the issue of money and politics and campaign finance reform right

wisconsin primary. he is talking a very big game in the badger state. >> we have won six of the last seven caucuses and primaries. and not only have we won them, we have won every one by landslide victories. and tomorrow, tomorrow if there is a good turnout here in wisconsin, if there is a record-breaking turnout here in wisconsin, we are going to win here as well. >> reporter: the clinton campaign is sending out a fund raising letter to supporters asking for donations. she is behind in most polls in wisconsin and bernie sanders out-raised her in the last three months. they are concentrating on new york. you see hillary clinton very concerned that she holds on to the majority of the 247 delegates at stake on april 19th. she made a last-minute swing through wisconsin this weekend, but mostly spending her time in new york. john and cristina. >> thanks, brianna. the economy and jobs will likely be the to p issue for voters in wisconsin. the wisconsin unemployment rate is below the national of 4.6%. the ave

of wisconsin. this could be a pivotal moment, a pivotal moment especially in the republican race for the white house. let's go over to john king over at the magic wall. they're trying desperately to get to that magic number 1,237 delegates needed. depending on what happens in wisconsin, that could be critically important for all of these candidates. >> if donald trump can win tonight, it makes his math a bit easier as he tries to get to the magic number of 1,237. here's the only candidate with a plausible scenario to get there. so if you're ted cruz, you're trying to win tonight to stop donald trump from getting here and increase the odds of an open convention and hope you have the hot hand as we fill out the remain primaries. let's look at the math. donald trump's number, we have it at 740, that's because wisconsin we haven't officially sorted out yet. cruz campaign deciding whether to contest wisconsin -- missouri, i'm sorry. missouri. donald trump is about to pick up, probably has a few more tha

>> i think wisconsin is very different. wisconsin has a different culture here. civility and decency. we have a better bs meter, quite honestly. donald trump has gotten away with sloganing. i think wisconsin will change the trajectory of this. i think your conversation about abortion will change it. not so much because he is a liberal or conservative, but what he found out is this a man who is literally thoughtless. he has not spent 30 seconds thinking about these major issues, nuclear weapons, abortions, any of these issues. i think he'll be exposed. i think wisconsin will expose the fact that he is vulnerable. that when in fact, you begin to talk about his record, talk about what a demagogue is, what a fraud -- >> give me an example of why you think he is a demagogue. >> when he says that he is going to do things that he is not going to do. when he says he'll build the wall and the mexicans will pay for it. >> you don't think -- >> no. >> he said today, by the way, he is going to pay for it by threatening the government of mexico with cutting off remittances, a

now in wisconsin to vote. the bernie sanders campaign all the time you hear them saying if turnout is big, we will do well. if it's not big, we will not do well. they have an ofrl monitor to make sure the i.d. law does not obstruct the law. what are you watching for? >> i'm making sure people aren't turned away from the polls when they do have correct i.d. >> you mentioned misinformation up on the radio this morning? >> yes, there was a radio station that put out that student i.d.s are not correct identification when they are. >> thank you very much. so some confusion already this morning. like i said, this line is very long. people are waiting for 20 or 30 minutes. and when the evening rush comes, it could be even longer. something to monitor throughout the day. back to you. >> tony dokoupil in green bay. jacob soboroff in madison, thanks to both of you. that's going to do it for this hour of msnbc live. i'm going to see you right back here at 6:00 p.m. eastern time. part of our special live coverage tonight

, ted cruz is going to win wisconsin. the question is, by the time he comes here to your hometown and together again. >> that is the question. donna brazile, meantime, taking a huge hit, especially with women. >> absolutely, george. look, there's a new poll out, marquette university, 70% of women in wisconsin disapprove of donald trump. but for republican women, 45%. you cannot win without women. women are the majority of voters, not just a demographic group. if donald trump loses in wisconsin, and there is indications that he might be falling behind, it will fundamentally change the narrative of his race. >> meantime, juan williams from fox news, we saw something rare from donald trump this morning in an interview with maureen dowd in "the new york times." he actually suggested he shouldn't have done something, retweeted out that photo of heidi cruz. if that's part of 9 problem with women. you stop back and look back and romney was minus 11 with women. trump looks like he's going to triple that. he's going the whole way

the other thing is when donald trump went to wisconsin to campaign, he started by attacking wisconsin's popular governwalker, still has 80% approval among wisconsin primary voters. a bad idea. he's attacking him using recycled attacks from the state's democratic party chairman. these are things that wisconsin voters, wisconsin republicans in particular have gone to polls year after year to fight against. donald trump comes to wisconsin and says, look, scott walker has this deficit which no longer exists, and he didn't raise taxes because he's running for president. it's not a good idea to attack a popular conservative governor in a republican primary for refusing to raise taxes. >> steve's point, kirsten, is in wisconsin, the establishment republicans are not labeled with that naughty word establishment, they seem to be accepted. >> they're liked. also, they've had time because of all the attacks on scott walker tbuild a conservative infrastructure that is probably working to cruz's advantage. the thing i did find interesting in the exit polls even though it's a good night for cruz is t

wisconsin primary night. on the republican side of things, it might be less about who will win in wisconsin tonight and more about how. and the size of victory, if it is a cruz win. and in a race where every delegate matters, tonight's margin and the corresponding delegate haul is going to be important. and right now trump holds a 275-delegate lead over cruz. we have top advisers here from all three republican campaigns, starting with the cruz campaign. we'll start with congressman reid ribble. he joins me now from the greatest little city on earth. green bay, wisconsin. i will always say that, as a die-hard packer fan. and full disclosure, multiple shares of the packers do i own. congressman, thanks for joining me. >> there we go. good to be with you, chuck. >> do you believe ted cruz can carry wisconsin in november? and did that factor into your decision to support him? >> no, it didn't factor into my decision to support him. i think november's going to be totally dependent on who the candidates actually ar

could a big win in wisconsin help him narrow that gap? >> wisconsin is very important actually. there are a good number of delegates here. then we're going to new york state and that's where there are a lot more delegates. we feel really good. ♪ you're not gonna watch it! ♪ ♪ no, you're not gonna watch it! ♪ ♪ we can't let you download on the goooooo! ♪ ♪ you'll just have to miss it! ♪ yeah, you'll just have to miss it! ♪ ♪ we can't let you download... uh, no thanks. i have x1 from xfinity so... don't fall for directv. xfinity lets you download your shows from anywhere. i used to like that song. >>> all right, we have some more exit polling data we want to share with you. the first wave of data from the wisconsin primary, telling you more about what the electorate looks like. remember, people are still coming back from work and voting now. republican side, how do you dedelaware fid define yourself, 31 very conservative, 43% somewhat conservative, combined, conservative. democratic side, 25% saying very liberal, 43% somewhat liberal. if you add those two toget

wisconsin is a critical primary for him and ted cruz. if trump wins he sews up the nomination and if cruz wins he has a race ahead. what he doesn't realize walker is still very very popular among republicans and speaker ryan from wisconsin, very popular among republicans. i don't think the tactic will work. by the way in terms of attra attracting democrats to the republican primary, democrats have a very interesting primary with bernie and hillary clinton. you won't get that traditional crossover. >> something else donald said was manufacturing jobs have been lost in wisconsin. from point of fact in 2010 to 2016, manufacturing jobs in wisconsin have increased. >> i think, you know, steve is right. certainly trump has had a big week up there with comments for wanting to throw women in jail for abortions and such. i think walker is a little vulnerable than he used to be. he attacked the university of wisconsin system by wanting to cut a quarter of a billion dollars out of your budget. i think trump, given the week he has had and down in th

now wisconsin. and ted's message, positive message of jobs, freedom and security is resonating with people. and we're seeing the republican party and true conservatives rallying behind him. because they see and recognize he is a candidate that not only can he beat donald trump, but beat hillary clinton in november. >> it does appear that a lot of the party leaders, scott walker, of course, being the governor there in wisconsin, banding behind ted cruz. but we have this one fox news exit poll i wanted to bring to your attention. in this particular poll, it says 37% of people questioned say they are concerned or scared about a president cruz. the question was actually if ted cruz is elected president, which best describes your feelings about what he would do in office. 14% excited, 47% optimistic, but 24% and 13% concerned or scared. so does that concern you? >> absolutely not. look, we came out of a tremendous victory here in wisconsin. which comes on the heels, as i said, of the last four contests w

it's the biggest city in wisconsin. if you look at it on a map it couldn't be more classical and elegant in the way that city center is laid out against that dominant feature of the city. milwaukee has two big rivers that come together in the spot they called the confluence. there's two major hoos -- highways that come together downtown. it's just a quintessenial area. right at the heart of that midwestern downtown, we really thought it was going to be mad house tonight. zoom way this here. there we go. you know what the shrine circus is. think old school circus. think unreconstructed circus. like down and dirty, elephant pop circus. it's going to be tonight at the panther arena. it's got 12,000 seats. it's right next door to the milwaukee theater. right next door. it's 7,000 seats. then if you go right across the street, literally right across the street, there's a parking lot there, the dark rectangle and right adjacent to the parking lot is what's called the wisconsin convention center. that's set up with 5,000 seats

wisconsin. especially in the vote rich counties that ring milwaukee and formed the core of the state gop base. we will have reporters joining us. let's go to wayne and pennsylvania. wayne, what do you think? caller: i think it is ridiculous . it should be illegal for what they're doing but who am i to say? i know one thing -- i want to go back to linda from kentucky. i don't know where she is getting her facts from about bernie sanders being a communist. they don't know what they're talking about. just because she wants ted cruz in the office or whatever her deal is, we have a right to who we like. so i'm not going to knock nobody. host: this is from the runningon times, against ebay for a candidate. donald trump is confident that he will be the republican nominee. we carry all five. from theial we found wisconsin tribune -- the ruling class of the democratic party has reserved 800 democrats -- 800 delegates. 40% of the votes needed to win the nomination. roughly 40 million democrats eachvote fo

clinton will not be in wisconsin. today instead she will be in new york. new york is the home of the next big contest that will take place two weeks from tomorrow. 247 delegates will be up for grabs when new york votes on april 19th. the latest poll in the empire state shows better news for hillary clinton, a ten point lead for her over bernie sanders in her home state, however, keep in mind polling in new york just a couple weeks ago and a couple months ago showed her up more than 20 points over bernie sanders. so that is a gain for sanders even though hillary clinton continues to lead in new york, even though clinton has spent as much time on her potential republican opponents as her democratic one. >> one step at a time. i'm definitely focused on the primary because i don't want to take anything anyplace or anyone for granted but i also believe strongly that, you know, ted cruz tried to insult new york values, donald trump even though he is a lifelong new yorker seems to forget that we are a nation of immigrants. i

hospital in tomah, wisconsin. tests showed the proud marine had 19 drugs in his system, all prescribed by doctors at the va. his death forced congressional action, including a field hearing in wisconsin. marv joins legislators who want stronger regulation of opiate prescriptions by va physicians. >> i think it's brought a lot of national attention to problems in the v.a. facilities all over the us, problems with opiates and prescription drugs being given out by doctors all over the country. and also to bring awareness to my son's bill, that's under his name that's in congress right now that we are trying to pass into law. diane: marv's grief isn't private anymore. he's become a public advocate for other veterans, even asking a question on national television. >> every day you see stories on the news, people all over wisconsin, big cities and small towns addictied to opiods and heroin. there is bi-partisan legislation in front of congress right now named after my son which would in part require stronger opiate pres

why is wisconsin so important? >> well, wisconsin is very important specifically for bernie sanders because if he can pull out a win here, his hope and he's been saying this because he's been talking a big game in wisconsin. his hope is that he'll ride that momentum into new york april 19th. you might look at the polls in new york. you see there's a 12-point spread from what we're seeing between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. you may think that's a good margin. but if he, say, those polls are off just a little bit, if he gets a lot of momentum, you can see how that gap starts to close. that's part of the reason hillary clinton is spending time in new york. keep in mind, though, this is really important. these delegates are awarded proportiona proportionately. bernie sanders wouldn't just have to beat hillary clinton in new york and in wisconsin. he'd have to beat her by a huge margin. so that's yet to be seen. >> talk us to more about the impact this could have on the big delegate prize coming soon here in new

it is wisconsin primary week. so we flew in one >>> the panel is here. it is wisconsin primary week. so we flew in one of the smartest reporters from the state, charles benson from our local affiliate there wtmj in milwaukee. helene cooper, amy walter and david brooks, columnist for "new york times." welcome all. charles, i'll start with you. >> all right. >> on the ground, is this looking as bad for trump as the polls say it is? >> clearly he had a bad week, but the anti-trump forces were already going at him. you know, they knew that they were going to come into wisconsin and make wisconsin their waterloo. but what they found out is ground troops are already there, especially with conservative talk radio. i mean, they have been hammering him locally, local conservative talk radio been hammering him for weeks. but also you have to keep in mind scott walker, paul ryan. all right. scott walker's endorsed ted cruz, paul ryan hasn't endorsed anybody. but clearly those two guys, their brand of politics has been really

wisconsin is an open primary. this is a primary where people who are not traditional republicans can vote. that would benefit trump. on the other hand, a strict voter i.d. law. new people, new trump voters who don't have an identification handy may not vote on election day. you can deem it out according to the polls. ted cruz's ten-point lead is closing a bit. most have him up by five or six points. today matters in the get out the vote matters. all eyes focused on wisconsin because it is a state where the winner makes a difference. >> trump has been criticized for being unpresidential. he had a few words to say about that. take a listen. >> i could be presidential. if i was presidential, we would only have about 20% of you here because it would be boring as hell. let me be unpresidential for a little while longer. maybe i'll be a little unpresidential as i beat hillary. >> now does a message like that really play well with wisconsin voters? >> it's not clear that it does. this is a state where trump has been at w

it's wisconsin's choice. tonight, in the fight for the gop nomination -- >> if i'm nice, i'll be presidenti presidential, but i'm going to lose, right? >> donald trump embroiled in a series of new controversies giving fresh fuel to his opponents. >> nominatingon

we will see how wisconsin voters feel about that. ahead of tuesday's wisconsin primary. there is a new state poll of wisconsin voters. democrats and republicans say ted cruz on the replicant side beating donald trump amongst gop voters in the badger state 30% -40%. john kasich is in third, 21%. approve found that 81% of the job governor scott walker is doing taken before walker induced -- supported ted cruz. that is the same number of walker fans combined with trump and kasich. bernie sanders is beating hillary clinton, and in a head to head general election matchup, sanders beats all three , clinton loses to kasich, ties with crews, and will beat trump. of thatsignificant skyhigh approval rating amongst republicans now with less than a week before the primary? john: we thought there was no doubt that the walker endorsement of ted cruz would help a little bit. he is very popular with republicans, conferring his blessing on ted cruz may have been a signal of the fact that a politicalso operator and conceit momentum z's directionu anyway. if he is this much ahead, you cann

we'll have a lot of fighting in wisconsin. all-night long coverage in wisconsin. it's important in the never trump movement as it's called but so are other states. go forward to our own state. 95 delegates at stake in new york and april 26th, tuesday, a number of important states, i highlight pennsylvania, it speaks to the math we were talking about. that's not it. 54 of the 71 are what they call unbound delegates, and that's where you are seeing a lot of the stories written here, liz, you have 54 delegates unbound. they can vote for whoever they want. so then instead of needing 50 some percent of the delegates, donald trump has to win, if he doesn't pick up delegates tonight, liz, 70% of the remaining bound delegates. forced to vote for him on the first ballot. that's what people are talking about and one of the reasons wisconsin is so important for trump and everybody else who wants to stop him. liz: it is extremely important. not just any other primary, right, connell? >> absolutely. have you momentum. if they can cut into the mentum, they can make a better cas

wisconsin is a must win. if you cannot show he can win wisconsin in a big way, how will he have a shot to win some of the bigger states, not just buy a little bit, but by all a lot? if they cannot come out with that, it's going to be really tough. i think they will come under a lot more pressure from the outside for him to drop out. think the campaign itself would struggle through that. mark: he largely gives the same style speech. is he trying to plan something new to come into new york with a different strategy and message, or is it just more of the same? >> the question at this point is how sharp does he get against hillary clinton. there's been a lot of grumbling and griping from clinton advisers about his tone. he has not gone as negative as he could have. he had a new jab at hillary clinton, a little sharper in saying it is great she is running around co-opting my message on manufacturing jobs, but she should have been doing that 20 or 30 years ago. otherwise, it is clear he has hit on something that wo

wisconsin? because clinton expects to lose in wisconsin. we'll get to the democrats in a moment, but first, wisconsin battle on the republican side which will test whether all of donald trump's missteps last week have had any impact on the voters. here's how things stand. the cbs news ugov online poll shows ted cruz with a slim lead over donald trump and john kasich carrying nearly 20% of the vote as the pressure from the cruz and trump campaigns to push the ohio governor out intensifies. trump gave his take on the race in wisconsin moments ago. >> if we do well here, folks, it's over. if we don't win here, it was not over. but wouldn't you like to take the credit in wisconsin? give wisconsin the credit for ending it. and then we can focus on hillary instead of these two guys. >> joining me, ari melber has got some exclusive reporting on the republican race. isabel, peter. first of all. let's talk about trump and cruz campaigning in wisconsin and trying to push kasich out and trump just out, fir

in wisconsin. reporter: a massive network of volunteers people say are responsible for the turnout and the win last night. >> rick perry and i lyndsey graham and jeb bush, and carly fiorina. and wisconsin's own governor scott walker. when you toss in senator mike lee and mark levin, we have got the full spectrum of the republican party coming together and uniting behind this campaign. reporter: donald trump is keeping it nasty. part of the statement reads, donald trump withstood the onslaught of the republican establishment and the entire republican apparatus. his chief -- bill: senator sanders was able to beat hillary clinton as well and he did it rather handily. reporter: he did. he has a lot of momentum. the last seven of eight contests went his way. >> i don't know if the audience knows it. but it has been projected by all of the networks that we won in wisconsin. reporter: one thing guaranteed by the two upsets is everyone is still in the fight. martha: we heard senator cruz. he called last ni

you're seeing that in wisconsin, you'll see that tonight in wisconsin. the people moving towards ted cruz, why he's got this momentum in his campaign and he's united -- uniting the republican party. they see him as a serious candidate with serious solutions to some of the big issues we face in this country. >> take a listen to president obama speaking out earlier today against trump, criticizing the plan to bill the wall and have mexico paying for it, calling a half-baked notion. here's what president obama had to say. >> the notion that we're going to track every western union, you know, bit of money that's being sent to mexico, you know be good luck with that. this is just one more example of something that is not thought through and it's primarily put forward for political consumption. >> mr. dewitt, your response? >> well, i will agree with bob, i don't look at president obama as an expert on foreign relations, by any means, and he's made a lot of missteps in that area. so i don't look 0 him as having the right answers. but i disagree with bob, when

that is not a wisconsin tan. >> not a wisconsin tan. i do feel obliged in all seriousness that you're a never trump fan. you're not a trump fan, for people who don't know. yesterday donald trump called you a lowlife who is not a real believer. you want the establishment to win because it's good for your third-rate talk show. >> i thought he would say fourth-rate, by the way, but great moments in presidential rhetoric. abraham lincoln with malice toward non-donald trump. again, here's a guy who has every opportunity to move to actual substance, and what is he doing? he's continuing to tweet out the insults. by the way, i wear that very much as a badge of honor. >> we'll leave it at that. go ahead, go ahead. >> if i could remind you that sometimes people like to vote for somebody they like. they voted for george w. bush because they felt he was comfortable in his own skin. they don't necessarily vote for a policy walk. i'm not sure this cuts against him in terms of the demographic he's going for. >> exactly. charlie sykes and mordecai lee

by's not been able to move up enough in wisconsin to win it. so diverting votes away from ted cruz to governor kasich is neither tactically right nor do i think it' right move for the republican party. governor kasich has a shot to make his case in pennsylvania and new york. and i think ted cruz has the best shot of winning. i think he will win relatively easy across the state of wisconsin. charles: i know wisconsin has picked the nominee for the last 50 years or so. do you think this is a turning point and where it becomes more serious and everyone becomes quote-unquote more presidential? it's hard for people to see where he wins after this. >> i think there is a lot of energy. if he comes out here tomorrow in the high 40 percentile, that will break the aura of donald trump. we'll see how donald trump does if he learned the lessons of the mistakes he made in wisconsin. there have been a myriad of mistakes he has made. we'll see how he adjusts. it will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow. i think a lot of momentum will happen. charles:

the polls set to open in wisconsin in seconds. wisconsin in seconds. let's get to it. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> by the way, john berm b just admitted he would never have worn the cheese hat. he doesn't let anything touch his hair. >> can't mess with the moneymaker. >> good morning on that and welcome to your "new day." tuesday april 5th. 8:00 in the east. alisyn is off. kapt rn perfect hair, john berman is here. with me and mic. and the polls are now open in this flash point state of wisconsin. today's results could have a dramatic impact on both sides of the race. will the gop race will reset if ted cruz takes a big chunk of these delegates and makes the magic number for donald trump 1237 almost impossible to achieve? >>nd on the democratic side, hillary clinton and bernie sanders a tight race in wisconsin. if bernie sanders can make it 6 out of 7, if he wins there, should the clinton campaign be worried? all this as the two finally agree to a debate, right here on cnn on april 14th. we're going to speak with both campaign managers in

wisconsins enough. can sanders win and use it as a springboard to go into new york and beat hillary clinton. bernie sanders won every democratic primary left, 55-45, by ten, which he's unlikely to do, a lot of states including new york where hillary clinton is favored, even if he ran the board by ten points he'd trail her in delegates. she would not have enough to clinch. >> we've got to take a break. 8 1/2 more hours. more to talk about. hearing from the panel, hillary clinton, bernie sanders looking to next big races. the latest from the campaign trail. i want each of you to grab a 2x8 and cut it. you'll have 2 saws to choose from. ♪ you all chose the best tool for the job. wouldn't it make sense to make the same choice, when it comes to your truck? (all) absolutely. this is the 2016 chevy silverado. nice. a good-looking pick-up. incredible. i love it. find your tag and get a total value of $9,000 on this silverado double cab all star. find new roads at your local chevy dealer. that's why i run on q

what about wisconsin? a new fox business network poll white wisconsin evangelical voters has senator cruz with a huge lead. senator cruz getting 49% of thesbpg$hu<2uu trump is 21% nky behind at 28% and@o governor john kasich in third place with 16%. chairman of the faith and freedom coalitionmqpiu(s(h reid goes "on the record." nice to see you, raleigh.u well, ralph? i think someone ought to fix his audio.-wztpdf÷ ralph, to the you. >> was that=o i take it was not? well, i guess, you know what? i'm going to go to my> now is he leading. what's interesting about wisconsin is that most of the voters are not evangelical voters. 62%rz% are non-evangelical voters. of the percentage that are, they are falling heavily for cruz this time. i think it has to do with the way the campaign has

david shuster has more. >> we won in wisconsin! [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: for democrat bernie sanders and republican ted cruz, it was the night both nomination challengers had been hoping for. >> god bless the great state of wisconsin. [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: with nearly all of the wisconsin primary votes counted cruz soundly dpeeted republican front runner, donald trump. the outcome means trump's path to the nomination will be more difficult, because his odds of winning enough delegates before the summer convention are now slim. trump, who campaigned hard in wisconsin though he stopped short of putting on a cheese head did not speak tuesday night. but cruz was banking on a contested convention celebrated in milwaukee, loudly. >> three weeks ago the media said wisconsin was a perfect state for donald trump. [ booing ] >> but the hardworking men and women of wisconsin stood and campaigned tirelessly to make sure that tonight was a victory for every american. >> reporter: in the democratic race, bernie sanders

and right now, though, wisconsin voters, if the polls are right, wisconsin voters are saying they don't like either of the front-runners. they're looking at ted cruz and bernie sanders for right now. the question is, will it be sort of a subtle message coming out of wisconsin or a megaphone message? >> i want to take that even further, charles, because with ted cruz leading in wisconsin, state insiders have said it's really more like a protest vote. do you have that sense? >> reporter: it does apparently seem to be that. you know, i think wisconsin voters, at least on the republican side, when they were looking who was going to be here on april 5th, they were looking, if they were not going to be a trump supporter, they were either looking at ted cruz or marco rubio. and when you look at the marquette law school poll that came out, the big change, even before governor walker's endorsement, ted cruz had doubled his numbers in the milwaukee media market. and then up in green bay, nearly double. and almost queue draadrupled in rest of the state. so, clearly, he's benefited from the fact th

there's 86 delegates in wisconsin. if he gets 46 and she gets 40 because of proportional she gets 50 he gets 50 she gets 36. 14 delegates he picks up. it's a win, bragging rights money is going to keep happening, his people will be recharged. but in the end it won't matter much. >> money is happening. he raised $15 million more in march than she did. it's quite extraordinary. she may win it but he's sticking around. let's turn to the republican race. you said earlier this week if donald trump wins wisconsin, the race is over. a lot of people thinking you don't particularly like donald trump, is that what's going on there? >> if he wins tonight in wisconsin, lit be effectively over. you had a popular governor a well organized cruz campaign, a well organized anti-trump advertising effort and trump had two terrible weeks. and so if trump wins tonight, then it says he's superman and there ain't no kryptonite around. >> now, the flip side that there is kryptonite around in the form of ted cruz and he wins does this mean tha

: good evening, wisconsin. what a great crowd. i want to particularly thank our lieutenant governor for being here. and, thank you to all of you for coming out. i want to thank all of you, particularly you at home. for showing what wisconsin nights mean. wisconsin nice means we are nice but not push overs. you see, we understand what common sense conservative reforms mean. we understand what it means to have principled conservative leadership because we have done it here in the great state of wisconsin. we understand that and in contrast we do not need leaders who taught about how things are bad. we need leaders who will inspire our country going forward. that is why we are celebrating h amend his victory for ted cruz, the next president of the united states. ted cruz is someone who has stood up and fought the big government special interest in washington, d.c., and when we elect him as our next president he will do exactly the same thing for the next president of this country. [applause] scott walker: tonight,

wisconsin. >> how are you feeling this morning? >> we feel great. i mean, the turnout has been fantastic. i think we're going to have a great day. we had a fum nphenomenal poll come out last night, i was want supposed to win south carolina, we won in really a landslide, chris. and we feel really good about this. >> i want to give you a chance to answer these reports there's a lot of infighting in your campaign, that it's in a state of somewhat disarray? >> i haven't heard those reports. we have a great campaign. i'm number one by a lot. millions more votes than cruz or anybody else. i have millions more votes, as you know. i have almost 300 more delegates. i have not heard anything about infighting. i don't know where you hear it. >> it's being reported and there are people within the campaign -- >> i doubt that. >> you feel confident that your campaign is all working together, none of the people who have been brought in -- >> are we number one? >> you're number one, but will -- >> do we have mi

vote in wisconsin. the results just an hour away. we'll have some exit polling and predictions. >> women seem to be under fire rightow. what do you think will happen to women if a republican gets -- if trump wins, god forbid. >> let's make sure that doesn't happen. >> liberal women will never vote for donald trump. but how about nonideological ladies? can he win them over? we'll take a hard look at that question. >> i think that the fbi will recommend to the justice department that she be indicted. >> also ahead, is it locally will update us on the hillary clinton email fbi investigation. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ ♪ paragraph plaintiff hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. big night for the republican party in particular that is the sung of this east coast's talking points memo. here i am on the election set. very expensive as we await the vote tally from wisconsin. where the polls close in less than an hour. important night for

it says wisconsin. >> this one says wisconsin for bernie. these are both social security ones. i can show that if i'm showing you the right -- i'm not. so all four of them say wisconsin for bernie. >> the text of one says wisconsin which means we weren't getting just the template. they were deciding what they thought wisconsinites would resonate with. >> does that tell you something about why bernie sanders might have a better chance? i doubt these are going to the college kids who are going to turnout potentially he hopes in force around madison. >> i'm a suburbanite in milwaukee. he thinks the wall street issue cuts into claim. >> i have to say that i have rarely and iowa, new hampshire those voters know a lot about what is going on. there are so many important other races aside from president going on in wisconsin. i was wondering is it overload or are people so engaged that they feel compelled to be a part of this process. >> usually in this presidential primary that is the marquis race what pulls people in. in this case i think it's nose to nose. some people are attracted

he needs the momentum of wisconsin. he needs to show that wisconsin is like michigan. and he needs that momentum going into new york if he's going to overtake her in new york, both of -- both of them claiming new york as their home states. she more recently than he in a way. because he is born and bred there at least. it's going to be the battle of brooklyn coming out of wisconsin. you can just see from the ferocity of their debate over debates, look what his people put out in criticizing her for not agreeing to the initial debate. they were trading back and forth. who knows what the private negotiations were. but saying that he will now inconvenience all of those new yorkers who wanted to come to his big rally, that he hopes that they don't mind, so that she can fly across country to raise money from big donors. >> massive fund raisers. >> as you said earlier, he can cough and raise money only. >> his numbers were astounding. >> unbelievable. >> mark halperin let's talk about wisconsin on the democratic side. is wisconsin as favorable for bernie sanders, if you look a