bolton here was you know and some see as a message in and of itself because john bolton is a hawk almost militant grest given his foreign policy putting america first and everyone else second. here. the russians have walked all over the obama administration for eight years it's really been a pathetic performance if you make them feel pain and others feel pain then the possibility of deterring future conduct like this increases that's what we need to do. nevertheless all his would talk to john bolton was very civil he expressed who prove that you know that the new avenues new common goals that russia and the united states could work together towards and that would improve trust between the two bridge the divide the chasm that's. developed that amir putin also congratulated john bolton on the united states winning the jointly winning the world cup bid and he said that russia is ready to share its own experience. with it was. i want to congratulate you on winning the right to host the fifa world cup in twenty twenty six we so far managed to organize the world cup appropriately. the visited

president donald trump's national security advisor john bolton is visiting moscow where he's currently meeting the russian president vladimir putin let's cross over to. for more on the meeting the purpose of john bolton's visit you mentioned earlier in your report better relations with russia what do we expect to come out of it. well they're meeting now and they've both made opening statements vladimir putin stated the obvious that you know the relations between russia and the united states right now. exactly in their best shape and he says that because of internal political dynamics in the united states you know political struggles between various factions of the united states but he said john bolton's visit to russia even in an overt itself gives gives hope that relations will be restored between russia and the united states to which john bolton said that you know we'll will meet anyone we're open to even meeting a rainy and officials and that donald trump is supports global global stability and they both reiterated that nobody wants any sort of conflict but the white house clearly s

sending john bolton here that was think a message of itself john bolton is a hawk he's aggressive when it comes to foreign policies real support of making america great again no matter the cost to others be they opponents or allies but he said you know where we're donald trump is for stability that we're here and we're ready to meet with anyone and that's john bolton. the russians have walked all over the obama administration for eight years it's really been a pathetic performance if you make them feel pain and others feel pain then the possibility of deterring future conduct like this increases that's what we need to do the white house was pretty straightforward when they issued a statement as to why john bolton was coming in was that this discuss serious issues such as syria ukraine the developing arms race between russia and the united states alleged in the fear and by russia and the u.s. elections as they say but john bolton said during his meeting with vladimir putin that you know he hopes he expressed hope that relations can be restored and that the two countries can find common

national security advisor john bolton to moscow where he met with the russian president. reports. like the mayor putin's advisors has revealed that this summit was indeed agreed upon before john bolton trumps national security advisor even came to moscow so this must must have been in the works for quite a while as i say details this guy all we know is that there it will happen outside of russia outside of the united states somewhere in a neutral country third party will play host the meeting is expected to last a few hours and end in a joint declaration by both donald trump and blasphemy of putin which which will be a breakthrough given covered relations earlier today we saw blood timea putin meet john bolton and you know it was all very official handshake smiles but they exchanged a few words an opening statement and let me a putin said that relations he was being perhaps very diplomatic he said relations out in their base shape now others might say they've never been worse but. said that this is the fault of internal u.s. politics and dynamics i have to begin with regrets a bel

john bolton at which he. said i don't want to reply i don't want to comment on this question but let me also extend. the friendship they both reads rates at the desire med relations to make peace and good and even offered to share russia's experience of hosting. it was with i want to congratulate you on winning the right to host the feed for world cup in twenty twenty six we so far managed to organize the world cup appropriately we'll be happy to share our experience in the. most appreciative of your courtesy in graciousness here and i look forward to hearing how you handled the world cup so successfully among others. bolton's visit to russia was discussed during trump's meeting with the portuguese president conversation inevitably football's biggest event portugal's stop laughing. i think they're doing a fantastic job with the world cup right now. it's in russia and i will tell you that it's exciting my son loves soccer and he loves watching the world cup and they have really done a fantastic job as you spok

press conference that john bolton gave was pretty frank and straightforward he was asked challenging questions such as why why this summit now russia's changed nothing in its behavior. at which john bolton replied that you know donald trump is in favor of weld stability he's in favor of talking of negotiating and finding a solution mend relations with russia despite its two inch criticism both at home in the united states and abroad the fact is that it's important for the leaders of these two countries to meet their wide range of issues despite the differences between the square at those present tramp and present couldn't think they may be able to find constructive solutions i'd like to hear someone say that's a bad idea it's important to bear in mind who is saying these words john bolton national security adviser to donald trump now but he says that aggressive man when it comes to foreign policy it's america first thing him and everyone else second said that he hopes that russia and the united states will mend relations and that they'll find common goals to work towards especially g

national security advisor john bolton you can see him see said. to give us more details on me saying that is now set to take place that had been reports of it for some time now and. we now have confirmation that there will be a meeting between the russian president putin and. as event donald trump this comes off to a meeting in moscow john bolton that are on a visit to the russian capital he's been meeting with senior figures there including the russian president vladimir putin he also had a meeting with the russian foreign minister sergey lavrov and the defense minister as well sergey shaw so you. haven't yet heard about where precisely that meeting will take place the logistics is still a little unclear we don't know when or where the meeting will occur but we know that it will be in a country the meeting is unlikely to take place either in russia or the united states but obviously a great deal to discuss discuss we have seen a deterioration in the relationship between washington and moscow recently not least over alleged russian interference in

well john bolton was trying to tamp down expectations he did at mit that there are many areas where the u.s. and russia disagree he also did try to get into the ongoing investigations here in the united states about whether the russians may have interfered in the two thousand two thousand and sixteen presidential election even though the u.s. intelligence community has concluded that that interference did take place but bolton said that it's important to get the two men into the same room to start hashing out these issues and to try to build this relationship for the long term one other point bolton before he joined the trumpet ministration had been very critical of moscow's behavior and several of the reporters during this press conference raised some of his past writings as a question you know how do you square what you did before the administration with what you're doing now and he basically said that when you joined a presidential administration in the u.s. you put your personal views aside and you were there as an advocate for the president now whether people in the room bought it

john bolton at which he. said i don't want to reply i don't want to comment on this question but let me also extend. friendship they both reads rates at the desired med relations to make he said he wouldn't even offer to share russia's experience of hosting. it was with i want to congratulate you on winning the right to host the fifo world cup in twenty twenty six we so far managed to organize the world cup appropriately we'll be happy to share our experience in the. most appreciative of your courtesy and graciousness here and i look forward to learning how you handled the world cup so successfully among others. has also confounded the meeting is taking place adding that ukraine and syria are likely to be among the topics of discussion and we asked former pentagon official michael maloof about any common ground the two leaders might be able to find. i think first of all they'll agree to disagree on certain things for example on the alleged russian interference in the two thousand and sixteen elections i don't

meet john bolton and you know it was all very official. smiles but. few words an opening statement and said that relations he was being perhaps very diplomatic he said relations out than there. are now others might say they've never been worse but. said that. the fault of internal u.s. politics and dynamics. have to begin with regrettably stating that relations between russia and the us are not in the best shape and i said it many times and i want to repeat it at the meeting with you i think this is a result of acute internal political clashes within the u.s. but your visit to moscow gives hope that we'll be able to at least take the first steps. between our countries. while this trip john bolton coming to moscow has been talked about for weeks there was so much speculation about what you know what the point was given this this is john bolton himself and he's aggressive in his foreign policy he's. the sort of person that would always put america first there's everyone out second coming here and you know this breakthrough coming now is certainly someth

bolton he said to meet with me a putin but the character himself speaks volumes john bolton is a hawk he's aggressive when it comes to foreign policies are the real america first everyone else second kind of guy so even if trump is you know set on improving relations with russia which are a absolute low it's not a fact that john bolton will assist with that. the russians have walked all over the obama administration for eight years it's really been a pathetic performance if you make them feel pain and others feel pain than the possibility of deterring future conduct like this increases that's what we need to do. the kremlin as just said that you know it wants to talk to john bolton about the sorry state of russian and u.s. relations but there may be more at play here than two countries making friends there is europe at stake really because relations between the united states and europe have tanked after donald trump slapped tariffs on european goods that started something of a trade war then there's donald trump scotchman's about nato about how you know he isn't satisfied about how th

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john bolton at which he. said i don't want to reply i don't want to comment on this question but let me also extend that in friendship they both reads rates at the design med relations to make he said to me i wouldn't even offer. to share rush's experience of hosting the world cup it was with that i want to congratulate you on winning the right to host the feed for world cup in twenty twenty six we so far managed to organize the world cup appropriately we'll be happy to share our experience. most appreciative of your courtesy and graciousness here and i look forward to learning how you handled the world cup so successfully among other things specific details that's the way that donald trump to me a good thing will meet i still secret they decided to share them synchronously the kremlin and the white house in washington to get that tomorrow decided build an ounce and location it will be russia the united states it will be a. country hosting the event in a meeting that six back to the last few hours ago and in

with that with regards to this meeting with the russians but john bolton bolton should be available to the press later today we've got a whole bunch of questions lined up for him and you know once we hear his answers it might give us a clearer picture of whether the united states genuinely wants better relations with russia. and i'll tell you some what i guess dear thank you. father was an unexpected outcome of choose various primary elections in the u.s. state of new york twenty eight year old socialist alexandria a car so quite a terse challenge the incumbent democratic party candidate and won a seat in congress is a correspondent. the country is reacting to the results of the primary congressional elections that took place tuesday in five u.s. states now the media has focused on the fight between donald trump and his critics but a lot of the surface another fight is boiling the fight for control of the democratic party in new york city's borough of the bronx a ten term democratic congressman faced off against a twenty eight year old for the nomination of the democratic party because

bolton and at the time at a press conference after meeting with president putin john bolton stressed the importance of this meeting and what it signifies let's listen to what he had to say the fact is that it's important for the leaders of these two countries to meet there are a wide range of issues despite the differences between us where both president trump and president putin think they may be able to find constructive solutions i'd like to hear someone say that's a better idea now that almost sounds like a challenge coming from bolton and perhaps unsurprisingly people both at home and abroad are taking him up on it as fears are being raised over the meeting between trump and putin and the media is awash with articles on that topic most of the concerns seem to be coming from nato members who feel what trump might promise to do when the two of them get together the nato members surely fear that trump could call for a reduction in troops and equipment or even possibly the suspension of drills that are carried out in the region and back at home for trump he's likely to have criticis

national security advisor john bolton to moscow where he met with the russian president reports. this summit is indeed happening one of like me at putin's a aides also said that it was organized before john bolton's visit to moscow but we learned we had a few details as to why or how this summit was organized john bolton said that don't trump ease for mending relations with russia despite criticism both at home at the broad the fact is that it's important for the leaders of these two countries to meet there are a wide range of issues despite the differences between the square both president trump and president couldn't think they may be able to find constructive solutions i'd like to hear someone say that's a bad idea which you know it's important that it's john bolton saying those words because he's aggressive when it comes to foreign policy he cool russia's alleged meddling in the u.s. elections an act of war and dad now he's backing donald trump saying that we do indeed need this summit that you know it will benefit it will benefit everyone especially at this stage with vladim

bolton later today as to the and bastard of john bolton in this case well he's quite the character he's a real hawk aggressive when it comes to foreign policy a real kind of america first everybody else second kind of guy so even if donald trump eases interested in in warming relations you know making up with russia now the relations are at an all time low it isn't a fact that john bolton build support him. the russians have walked all over the obama administration for eight years it's really been a pathetic performance if you make them feel pain and others feel pain then the possibility of deterring future conduct like this increases that's what we need to do now superficially you might think you know simply that russia in the united states which is and that salute lou in relation to you could think that this is about mending relations or this could be about europe which is really at stake here the united states and europe of their relations have chilled recently and these could be this a. is it could be a message to the european saying that unless you start dancing to our strings agai

as far as john bolton not being there, the president is someone who has thought he could handle this largely on his own, but north korea was upset by john bolton's comments about this before. >> kevin, let me play for you what president trump told reporters of after that meeting. take a listen. >> a letter was given to me by kim jong-un and that letter was a very nice letter. >> it was a very interesting letter. >> i haven't seen the letter yet. i purposely didn't open the letter. i haven't opened it. i didn't open it in front of the director. i said would you want me to open it? he said you can read it later. i may be in for a big surprise, folks. >> kevin, it is hard to overlook that obvious contradiction. was that letter simply immaterial to the president's decision to move forward with the summit? what do you make of that response? >> i just think the response speaks for itself. one of the takeaways here is this is a response to where we were just in the last weeks. it would suggest that secretary of state mike pompeo, the former cia director, former congressman, has really been

the battle of john bolton versus mike pompeo. what they feel. tariffs have been involved in this and sanctions. when it comes to the actual domestic stuff it's a battle of people trying to fight each other basketball. they are not debating each other. i don't like you. a lot of the people complaining about leaking, the people on tv are some of the leaks as well. it's a lot of mess when it comes to domestic. >> it's interesting to know john bolton seems to be sidelined in this process. this whole career has been denuclearization of the korean peninsula. he hasn't been in the last two months a key player in this. kennedy: he's going. >> even when you look at the president, he talked about how they are afraid of john bolton. i think john bolton has become the trump bad cop. kennedy: i think you are right. i think the president appreciates that john bolton really gets under their skin. he says things the president doesn't have to. john bolton, like hip or not, he has an incredible command of the facts. he just has a very specific way -- >> i don't t

john bolton to which he. said i don't want to reply i don't want to comment on this question but let me also extend. friendship they both reads rates at the. federal nations to make he said he couldn't even offer to share russia's experience of who. i want to congratulate you on winning the right to host the fifa world cup in twenty twenty six we so far managed to organize the world cup appropriately we'll be happy to share our experience. most appreciative of your courtesy and graciousness here and i look forward to hearing how you. successfully among other specific details when donald trump will meet still secret they decided to share them synchronously the kremlin and the white house and washington together tomorrow. some new creation it will be russia the united states it will be a. country the event in a meeting that six back to the last few hours ago and in a joint declaration. now known trump has also confirmed that the meeting has been agreed on adding that ukraine and syria are likely to be among the

john bolton said the. fool mending relations with russia despite criticism both at the broad the fact is it's important for the leaders of these two countries. and. there are a wide range of issues despite the differences between the square those present trump and present couldn't think they may be able to find constructive solutions i'd like to hear someone say that's a bad idea it's important that it's john bolton saying those words because he's aggressive when it comes to foreign policy he cool russia's alleged meddling in the us elections and act of war and now he's backing donald trump saying that we do indeed need this summit that you know it will benefit it will benefit everyone especially at this stage with vladimir putin pulled the relations not in the best shape which is perhaps diplomatically very polite others would say that the relations between the united states and russia. are at an all time low you have to begin with regrets about stating that relations between russia and the us a note in t

president donald trump's national security advisor john bolton has arrived in moscow in fact at this very moment he is meeting with the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov and later he is due to be meeting with the russian president vladimir putin more details here with r.t.s. but i guess the white house said itself that the official purpose of this visit is to discuss the outstanding in serious issues between russia and the united states but really what everyone's talking about is that potentially they're setting up a meeting between putin and donald trump and in that vein putin himself is going to meet john bolton later today but. there's no details as to when or where or if this meeting will indeed appen as to the bastard of john bolton in this case while he's quite the character he's a real hawk aggressive when it comes to foreign policy a real kind of america first everybody else second kind of guy so even if donald trump interested in warming relations you know. taking up with russia now the relations are at an all time low it isn't a fact that john bolton build support him.

he knows that the north koreans don't like john bolton. john bolton has called for regime change. and he's so eager not to upset kim jong-un anymore that he is sidelining his own national security adviser. you have to ask, are the north koreans doing the same thing? is kim jong-un not going to let anyone in the room that is to me, this shows that north korea is in the driver's seat. >> so it shows you north korea is in the driver's seat. is this giving north korea what they want? >> well, we got to be careful. i think sam is right. if you want a deal badly, you're going to get a bad deal. but i think that this divergence between pompeo and the secretary of state just sort oflects the tension of the president who wants to go big and john bolton who is always skeptical of doing business with rogue regimes. he's focused on the details, the who, what, when, where of denuclearization. i think the secretary of state is saying, let's think about how we get to a peace treaty so sooner orter, they got to come together for a good deal, but there is definitely tension in the room. >> definit

flights has worked with john bolton before. in that sense he's not much much a surprise in terms of somebody who john bolton might want to hire. but is he an unusual choice for the national security council given what it does? >> well, i think the one thing that john bolton will expect from him first and foremost is that he's going to be sort of an enforcer within the national security council. as you mentioned at the beginning of the trump administration there were a number of people who had these sort of conservative controversial views about islam, and i think we may be seeing a return to that at the nsc. but he's going to be i think john bolton's enforcer first and foremost within the nsc to clamp down on leaks and sort of enforce john bolton's vision. the big question we're trying to understand here is how much is his personal screw going to influence what happens with the nsc? and we're still waiting to really get some clarity on that position. >> somebody who says that there ought to be a new house un-american activities

here is how the president's national security adviser john bolton defined that back in april. >> north korea has to give up basically its whole program before the u.s. begins to relieve economic sanctions. >> yeah, relieving that pressure isn't going to make negotiation easier, it could make it harder. chris: mr. chang, do you think that kim will ever give up entire missile and nuclear program, what's the most that we can hope for in that area? >> yeah, i think we could actually get cvid. this is not a kim question, though. kim certainly doesn't want to give up missiles or nukes, he doesn't want to give up any of that, of course, this is an issue of what president trump will do, whether president trump will use the elements of american power to force kim to do what he doesn't wan do. for instance, we can tightening sanctions on north korea, although the sanctions restrict, they are not strict enough and we need to put sanctions on north korea's major power backers, the chinese and russians who have been violating sanctions blatantly for the last three months. so clearly there's a lot t

let's see what john bolton has to say and i'm fascinated to see what he's got today. thank you, matthew. >>> also, we are following more breaking news. the supreme court handing down major blows to unions representing public sector employees and the president tweeting about it. saying this, t supreme court rules in favor of non-union workers who are able to support a candidate of his or her choice without having those who control the union deciding for them and for the coffers and the democrats. jessica schneider is outside the supreme court with much more on this. jessica, lay it out for us. what do the justices have to say? >> the supreme court striking down in particular this illinois law that allow public sector unions to collect the so-called fair share fees from all employees, all public sector employees regardless of the fact if they were members or not. that's a violation of free speech and striking down this illino law and what's important is there are 22 states around the country that have similar laws like this and this does deal a majorlo to these public s

chris: north koreans just plain don't like him, right in. >> hostile language about john bolton. stayed away from doing that with donald trump. certainly there's a lot of hard feelings from the bush days when john bolton advocated -- chris: david, the president has said from the start this week in canada, if this meeting is a waste of time, i am going to walk out. do you think there are any circumstances on which he would walk out or given probably at the very least there's going to be the optics to have two men meeting and talking that he will play the singapore as disaster? >> a lot of ground work, rough process. the president really wants this to be a success. he sees political victory here. he wants something predecessor have done, start meeting, he lowered expectations, i see very unlikely the president gets up and walks out, you know, even if he won't see a sort of grand bargain in the end which no one expects to happen. it's a start of a process. the president said it could take more meetings and certainly the staff to nail down details. chris: your man, mike pompeo at the

well i think that the president and john bolton in turn at the will of the president because he answers directly to the president serves at the will of the president i think it's completely normal that we would want to meet with russia every u.s. president in the history of my life anyway has met with the president of russia and i think that maintaining dialogue and discourse are important next steps between the two countries and i don't know why as john bolton said i don't know why anyone would be opposed to that and i think that most americans would hope that whatever the united states and russia could agree on would be able to be discussed and so that if there are some good things they can agree on they can move forward on those things. well day fifteen of the russia world cup decided which of the remaining teams would make it through to the knockout stage over now to neil harvey and peter schmeichel from our special studio in central moscow. yeah we call it all special steve but because the view is special we have a special form of playing but it will shock me peter schmeichel who h

really talking to john bolton. informs secretary mattis, discussing it with the secretary of state, but a very abrupt decision not notifying congress. we all remember what happened a week ago thursday. now it's a week later and they sent a very conciliatory response to his tough letter which is what made them think, ah, there is something here. i don't think they've had verbal communication. we may be proved rongwrong. this is a secret process. my read so far, it is this letter and his letter and other communications via secretary pompeo that has been really significant. we also know that the vice chief of staff, the deputy chief of staff, i should say, joe hagan is a former bush administration official as well. he's in singapore. has been planning logistics this week with a team of counterparts. they had been stood up a week before and in his testimony a week thursday to the foreign relations committee, getting a dial tone when they tried to find out why everything was going off the tracks. so all of the signals h

among them secretary mike pompeo, chief of staff john kelly and national security adviser john bolton. north korea analyst gordon chang joined us earlier to tell us what they can expect. >> for us this is going to be a very tricky, very intricate

he will be greeted by chief of staff john kelly. by national security adviser john bolton. you'll see that as it's happening. our tv cameras via the pool set up live. walk across the colonnade and into the over's office, where he will meet president trump we are told. where this letter handoff will happen. remember what is why kim yong-chol, former top spy in north korea, you said, kim jong-un's right-hand man, it's a personal letter from kim jong-un to president trump. he didn't come all the way here to send a letter, go pound sand. it's probably a sign kim jong-un is trying to make the singapore summit happen june 12th. we know overnight according to north korean media committed to the restoration of the peninsula. a story we've heard before. we'll see if the u.s. takes it serious enough to take donald trump overseas.

john bolton working together with mike has been fantastic. i don't even know where -- there he is. i thought he might have gone back to north korea. he spent so much time in north korea, surprised to see you here. i think i can speak for both of us in saying, it's been an incredible experience. the relationship is very good. they've stopped the sending of missiles, including ballistic missiles. they're destroying their engine site. they're blowing it up. they already blown up one of their big test sites. in fact, it was actually four of their big test sites. and the big thing is it will be

bolton met in moscow. best friend secretary james mattis has been meeting his south korean counterpart in seoul the two held talks on washington's decision to suspend joint military exercises earlier maddest was in beijing discussing territorial disputes in the south china sea where he was told that china would not give up an inch of territory . but the u.k. intelligence committee has published two previously leaked reports shedding light on the mistreatment of detainees the seven year old consolidated guidance document as it's currently known highlights hundreds of cases witnessed by u.k. security personnel and which detainee rights were violated the report say those responsible for the abuse were british and american nationals the report suggests greater clarity is needed to make sure ministers to not authorize actions which could lead to torture paul brennan has more. these two reports by the intelligence committee of the house of parliament paint a highly critical picture of the behavior of british int

. >> he's not more of a neo con than john bolton. >> but john bolton isn't getting what he wanted at all. that's the big splinter within this administration. you're watching how mike pence and john bolton seem to be completely opposed to what donald trump has envisioned for peace with north korea. i think that it is testament to donald trump's belief in his own cult of personality that he got to this point. i think it's a good thing that from this point onward, donald trump is going to have not as much firsthand contact. it's going to be -- >> he invited him to the white house. >> well, exactly. >> he just opened the door. i talked to two former senior intelligence officials who said to pte i out of tube. he is now a coequal to the united states of america. >> he has done that. he has elevated kim jong-un. i do think he's the only person whcould have gotten away with doing it because he has so much cover from the right. he has cover with john bolton being his national security advisor. no other american politician could have conceded so much and have not reaped a political whirlwind

i'm still talking in that other voice. ( laughter ) i got john boltoned.m,an. >> ♪ bolton, bolton, bolton ♪ keep the doggy rolling i'm just feeding from the energy before. >> stephen: i like it. >> stephen! >> stephen: when you see somebody like john bolton appear on the national scene, do you go, "oh, what a lovely character?" like, "let me at him!" ( laughter ) >> well, you know, we took some liberties. >> stephen: no, that was-- >> the mustache was great. but mostly when he's on he's got the news talk, and he says crazy things, but he acts very calm. "i believe it's a wonderful thing when a nuclear weapon gets out of its tight silo and has a throbbing, aggressive trajectory toward another country." and you're like, "whaaat!" ( audience reacts ) you know, "i think there are many countries we have to be worried about in terms of threats-- canada, france, norway, hawaii." "hawaii?" "well, they could become a nation state and develop nukes." what i'm always looking for is the exaggeration point. >> stephen: sure. >> you're going from that and then you're kind of the little "hahaha," like