become ak that we have little more closed minded and academia that we were in the past. that is probably not the students. students are always -- they always think they have the truth. look at the three of us, we are bald. it means we went to school during the vietnam war times. you are a little younger, ben, sorry. terrence: don't get him mad. ben: class of 68. edward: there was no more tumultuous time than that. the difference was where we thought we knew everything, there were people that pushed back. that was true among the faculty, among the media, and intelligentsia. i think right now, the one thing i would say we have to worry about is that those other three groups are not pushing back perhaps as hard as they should. terrence: thank you. mr. secretary than mr. chairman. , if we areink optimistic, it has to come from the young people. all the issues we talked about today were about whether it is the national debt or whether it is our political system, or some of the issues we didn't talk about like climate change and environmental risks. these are generally -- gene

one of most important concepts in academia and i actually think it's a brilliant and important point. no the person who coined the term and it simply refers to the fact that people can be outsiders are minorities. you can be a hispanic woman with a different experience than maybe a caucasian woman, a asian man may have a very different experience than a straight asian female so and its inception what has happened and i try to explain this is that it's been used and exploited and spun out like everything else on social media and cable news. to me something that really never was intended. now it means exponential identity politics. so it's a bigger question but i will say i think the core insight is incredibly valuable. like everything else this is the problem with tribalism. it starts off as this is something and it becomes an instant tribal symbol. all lives matter. what could be wrong with that? that now stands for something to so with almost impossible to have a discussion because it's almost like you signal which tribe you're in by having to respond to something. >> in your book yo