brian: how many children? grace: three. brian where are there today? grace: two of them are in california, one is now in pennsylvania. my youngest son kevin is now the chairman of the board at the mcclatchy newspapers. so we haven't gone far. brian: now, how did that happen? grace: well, before that -- he loved sports. he was the managing owner of the pittsburgh pirates. so he moved to pittsburgh a long time ago. he was 11 years running the pirates. brian: when did your former husband ck mcclatchy die? grace: about 24 years ago. he died a long time ago. brian: a question about your relationship with him, and your kids. those kids all belong to your marriage with mcclatchy. what did they think of your memoir? grace: i think they probably had mixed feelings, but they are very nice to me. they are polite about it. and they are also proud. brian: why would they have mixed feelings? grace: i do not think they wanted everything that was in our family life necessarily there for people to read. but i purposely did not write about them. if you look at the book,

brian: and, joe? joe: i am a curator of photographs at the maryland historical society where i do writing and digitize our materials. and they are very supportive of my filmmaking efforts. it is the kind of thing where i have to have a day job and it is a good day job for that. aturrently have an exhibit the historical society called "activism and art, the catonsville 9, 50 years later." the exhibit uses artwork from one of the nine, tom lewis, and segments of the film, "hit & stay." that exhibit will be up for the next year. brian: where is the historic society? historicalltimore society is in baltimore, a block from the washington monument. yes, we have a washington monument as well. it is in the mount vernon neighborhood. brian: who are these in the clip? joe: she is currently in priso for a plowshares action that she did, which was an anti-nuke protest. brian: where she and prison? joe: i forget which prison she is in. i do get emails on the progress of her case. brian: what do you mean by "plowsh

brian: dr. charles krauthammer, what is a medical doctor doing writing a column and appearing on television? charles: i've been wondering about that. i've a very checkered, irregular career. i was once asked by an intern at the new republic magazine where i used to work, how do i get to be a nationally syndicated columnist and i said, well, first you go to medical school. it was pretty unplanned, i had intended to be a psychiatrist. i practiced for three years. and then i just had a tug, a feeling that there was a wider world out there i wanted to get involved in. and i studied political theory as a graduate student and i went back. i came to washington and one accident led to another and ended up doing what i'm doing. brian: if we had to find about three big thinkers, books on your shelf, who would they be? charles: i think the single most influential thinker when i grew up, which was late '60s, early '70s, the time of the student revolution, was a very short book by a political philosopher cal

brian: and, joe? joe: i am a curator of photographs at the maryland historical society where i do writing and digitize our materials. and they are very supportive of my filmmaking efforts. is the kind of thing where i have to have a day job and it is a good day job for that. i really have an exhibit at the historical society called "activism and art, the catonsville 9 50 years later." the exhibit uses artwork from one of the nine, tom lewis, and segments of the film, "hit & stay." e up foribit will b the next year. the historical society is in baltimore, a block from the washington monument. yes, we have a washington monument as well. skizz: it is in the mount vernon neighborhood she is currently in prison for a plowshares action that she did, which was an anti-new protest -- anti-nuke protest. brian: i forget which prison she is in. by plowshares?n guest: plowshares is a movement that sprang off in the 1980's, may be, as early as 1970's by phil berrigan and liz mcallister a cfrommunity that they star

brian: those are all just earth orbiters. robert: yes. brian: and the gemini flights. robert: gemini 12 was the last one. that was jim lovell's second. he also flew with frank borman on gemini 7. weeks.s for two solid that was for two solid weeks in a space capsule the size of the front half of a volkswagen beetle. when you see them getting off, lovell says we would like to announce our engagement. gemini was the test program to build up to apollo, which was designed to take men to the moon. brian: how many apollo's were there? robert: apollo one never went. that was a failure and tragedy on the launchpad. apollos two and three never went. four and six were tests of the saturn five. 6, 7, 8, 9, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, -- 14. brian: how did you get all the quotes? how much of the nasa transcripts did you read? robert: i read unbelievable amounts of transcript. the transcripts are essential to understanding the flight. i read commentary on the transcripts, i read almost every oral history nasa did with anybody who could have even been periphally involved with apollo 8. they we

brian: do you believe in him? brian: do you believe in him? kate: benny hinn, i do not have a lot of intellectual and theological affinity towards him. i have seen a lot of benny hinn. he is one of the pastors that i watched the most and is often the most dramatic. he is the one on youtube where he raises his hand and you will see 100 people fall over at the same time. his very dramatic approach is one that i found somewhat anipulative. brian: you will only see one person in this one. this was december 18, 2017. benny hinn. [video clip]>> i rebuke the cancer in the ighty name of jesus. i come against you in the name f the one i serve. leave this young lady. leave her now in the name of the lord my god. heavy breathing] benny: complete the healing. it is really gone, right? there is no pain in your stomach? well then, that is real. kate: when i see something like that, i can only see it from her perspective. i have had a lot of people pray for me similarly and as a christian, believe christianity has a very long tradition of divine healing. so

brian: where did they go? yunte: when robert hunter, this traveling scottish businessman saw the twins as swimming in the river, i think he thought he saw something mysterious in the water. like the movie "the shape of water," that sort of thing -- then he came closer and then he realized it was a business opportunity. he talks to the twins and his mother to try to convince them to take them out of the country for a freak show. the siamese king did not approve because he wanted to own everything in his kingdom. it would take a few more years until an american ship captain came to town and the hunter basicallyter totnered with coffin convince another king, the new king, to let them take the twins out of the country. show.reak brian: did they have to pay money to the mother or anything? yunte: yes. part of my research for this book, oftentimes, we have prized discoveries as researchers. one of the things i am proud of is that i was able to track down the handwritten contract they signed on the day of their depar

brian: at what age? rep. speier: you know -- what happens when you are young, you don't remember how old you actually -- i think i was 6, 7 years old, maybe eight. i had spent my life putting it behind me. i realized when i was writing the book that i really did need to talk about it. we need to take it out from the shadows. it happens in families all the time. children are shamed by it. it does affect you the rest of your life. in my case i realized it affected me in a way i had to overcome it by trying to make sure it did not happen to other people. brian: let me go through some of the details of your life. after the guyana thing, you ran for congress. what year and what happened? rep. speier: i am hospitalized for two months. i come back on a weekend, a friday. there is so much energy of family and friends. i realize, the first time i was not feeling pain. i was still in pain, but i was other directed. on that monday, it was the last day you could take out papers to run for the unexpired term of congressma

brian: mr. president, can you remember the first time you ever thought about being president of the united states? pres. bush: brian, i can't think i honestly can't. -- can. i remember when i started thinking seriously about it. i left the center of intelligence. jimmy carter was elected president. i went back to texas. somewhere in there after that i began to be serious about it. i didn't, i didn't make any permanent business connection or permanent university connection. i did a little teaching, a couple of boards of directors of business, but it was in there i got to thinking about it seriously. but whether it even crossed my mind earlier on, i don't know. probably. everybody who is elected to congress thanks, hey, maybe someday i will be president. brian: in your book, you write that memo on aging and memory. what was the point of that in your new book? pres. bush: i put it in there because i wanted my kids to understand if it looked like i'm disconnected i am. ,i didn't want them to think i

brian: how long were you married? ms. kennan warnecke: eight years. brian:? -- brian: why did you divorce? ms. kennan warnecke: we had different values. andas a very ambitious man not a terribly nice man. he was never terribly nice to my children. this got to be worse and worse. brian: he is not alive? ms. kennan warnecke: he died. mewas 15 years older than and he died at age 91. brian: who did you meet through him that you became friends with. -- friends with? ms. kennan warnecke: i became much closer to the kennedy family. he had been their architect. he did senator ted kennedy's house, bobby had -- bobby kennedy's paul house. -- pool house. i knew senator ted kennedy. we were in the same class at harvard and ratcliffe. but i was not a close friend, just said hello. , jack let a glamorous life. much more glamorous than i was leading. the kennedys were one of the chief people i met. then i ended up taking ted kennedy and his wife and two children as their escort translator to the soviet union in 1974. brian: i want to read what you said about jack. he was co

brian: both. [applause] [laughter] yunte: i would say tremendously popular when these movies were made. this was followed by sidney and roland winters. these are all white actors playing asian roles. that has become quite a funny issue for a lot of asian-americans. brian: did any chinese play charlie chan at any time in the movies? yunte: you might be surprised to know, before roland played the role, they were asians playing charlie chan in a silent film. this was in the silent film era. probably because they sucked. [laughter] those movies were not successful at all. the first three charlie chan films. brian: they were not chinese? yunte: two japanese and one korean. we are talking about 1920's hollywood. brian: we will come back to all of this. i want to focus on you. you were born where? yunte: in a small town in southern china. brian: what year? yunte: 1969. in the middle of the cultural revolution. i grew up in the waning days of mao's china. brian: what did your parents do? yunte: i came fro

brian: why bartender? mr. cantu: it is a good way to make some pocket money, and i love the people i work with. of agaveficionado spirits, so i find a way to do that. brian: in what city? mr. cantu: tucson. brian: you mention your mother. where is mom now? mr. cantu: she lives outside the town where i grew up. brian: are there brothers and sisters? mr. cantu: i have half brothers and have half brothers and half-sisters on my father's side. brian: how many? mr. cantu: two half-sisters and an older half-brother. brian: the experience of writing the book, how long did it take you, and what do you think of the process? fiveantu: i spent maybe years writing this book. really began as inaccounting of my own time the border patrol, and of the ins that i participated what, now, when i look at it, is the perpetuation of these flaws and violent policies. thinking,y changed my as i had already started writing the book, is when i became hisnds with this man, jose. story is what really transformed me. because it was the fi

brian: some more. "i gave birth to your black ass, i raised you and fed you, i will not come second to whoever this bitch is, have i made myself clear?" for the next half hour, she grilled me about my girlfriend in explicit detail, what did her body look like, what kind of kisser was she, what did i want to do with her when we were alone? it was the last thing i wanted to discuss. what is the background? zachary: i am 13 or 14 years old, not just interested in girls anymore, i'm starting to talk to them, i am beginning to date and i have my first serious girlfriend. my mom essentially felt threatened by that. there is another woman in his life whom he -- whom she feared i would love more than her. it was an irrational fear or anxiety have, but that was my read of what was going on with her concern and interest in it. she got very upset. she wanted to read every text message, she wanted to know every time i communicated with her in any shape or form, if i was thinking about her. she wanted to know my in

brian: no. i have a point of view, but i also know what i can do and what i shouldn't do. ♪ ♪ david: you have cable. you also have broadcast channels. you have movies. i mean, how do you have time to watch all the things that your company is producing? brian: well, we grew up in this business. when i started back in 1981, they were just coming out with cable channels, and i was very lucky when ted turner called me up and asked would i come on his board? i think i was in my late 20's or early 30's, the youngest person on the board, and i saw him literally change the world with cnn and literally change the world by putting nfl games on a new network, tnt, and taking the mgm library and bringing it to cable television and building new channels -- cartoon network. so i always thought, someday, it would be nice if comcast could help do that as we continue to evolve more and more niches in television. so how do i have the time? well, i don't see everything we do. i try to see some of, a lot of wha

brian: how old are you? zachary: 22. brian: what was your major at williams? zachary: political science. brian: in your book, you talk about various places. talk about stanford. zachary: i was basically taking for college courses. i was always driven and very ambitious. i did not want to spend my summer reading in my room. i thought it would be great, especially because i was going to be on the east coast, to experience a different university setting, and stanford has a very strong political science department. brian: yale. zachary: that was a writer's conference the summer after my freshman year. i attended a number of work ships and it helped me improve. brian: columbia. zachary: that was my junior year, it was a study away experience. i studied psychology and political science. a great time. brian: you grew up where? zachary: washington, d.c. and detroit. i was born in washington, d.c. in 1985, but i moved around a bit. brian: where have you lived since then? in maryland, i have lived in the district of columbia, and two different places in detroit. zachary

time. >> brian: 7-2 lead. as we loam. from ricky davis. eufrplt nice shot. he caught it. mario knocked that one out of bounds. >> jim: no matter how it goes in, like sometimes when i putt it hits the cup hard but it drives it. >> brian: here's jermaine and the drive. jermaine taylor going to the line and shooting one for two a league. out of florida. college ball in usc. missed that one but here's the shot stevenson. johnny on the spot. >> jim: keep in mind you got to box out and that time taylor missed it but he was able to tip it quickly to stevenson. >> brian: stevenson with 5 points and 3 boards. checks back in. goes right at deshawn stevenson. 5 on the shot clock. the drive. lays it up and in. markus banks >> jim: what a beautiful -- that time he looked off and looking for it inside for scalabrine to pick it himself. mario west snags. he brings it home with that lovely left. still reach-in by west. came up with the steal. >> jim: talk about the run that the goal ballers are on. banks beautiful hesitation

brian: what a narco? mr. cantu: that's a spanish term for a drug dealer, anyone related with the drug trade. brian: what is a cartel? mr. cantu: narco from narcotics. cartel refers to the drug smuggling mafia. brian: what a coyote? mr. cantu: coyotes are people who traffic migrants across the border. significance -- i want to put up a map of the rio grande river. this map that you see there, the rio grande starts in california and goes through new mexico, but that's the borderline. when you see that map and your own experiences what do you , think? mr. cantu: you know, i spent a lot of time looking at this map and thinking about this map. when i was thinking more abstractly about the book and the title really comes from thinking about this map and thinking about the way the line is drawn across the landscape. and when i was taking about the title, i was thinking about what borders we accept as natural. mountain range, river, they demarcate something in a way we sort of accept and what sort of boundaries are u

brian: why? hendrik: he was, very early as a congressman and senator, coming-of-age after world war ii in public office and helping try to define america's role in the world and, famously my own you, became the most important critic of the war in vietnam and really saw the consequences of the building blocks that he and vandenberg had been a part of, being in a sense perhaps misimpression says -- sense perhaps misinterpreted in getting us into a quagmire. brian: our guest hendrik meijer, the man in the middle of the american century. thank you very much for joining us. hendrik: thank you. it has been a pleasure. ♪ >> for free transcripts or to give us your comments about this program, visit us at q&a.org. q&a programs are also available as c-span podcasts. ♪ [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] >> if you enjoyed this week's q&a interview,

brian: iraq. we could talk about that for a couple of hours, but did you learn from president bush about his decision to go into iraq? dr. engel: the most important thing is twofold. threefold actually. the first is just so much iraq was for him and those around him not about the middle east at the end of the cold war, which is to say the understood the berlin wall had fallen. russia seems to be transforming. they understood the world had changed and however the international community chose to meet the threat of violence the first time after that change what set the pattern for decades to come. iraq mattered but ultimately what mattered was the post-cold war sentiment they were trying to create. the second thing that was fascinating for me was bush was fully prepared to go to war in january of 1991 with 500,000 american troops in the region, even if congress had voted against giving him authorization. it was a remarkably close vote. only a few votes tipped the balance. ultimately bush wrote in hi

brian: why woodrow wilson? patricia: i did a book about theodore roosevelt after he was president, there is a lot of world war i in it and i got fascinated about world war i. to write about wilson in world war i was a natural sequel. brian: the other books you read about woodrow wilson for research, what were they? patricia: i started with a major one, written by a person who knew him, a famous journalist of his time. he admires woodrow wilson almost unflaggingly. he's not entirely uncritical, but it is full of anecdotes of people around at the time. i have read just about all of the books of john milton cooper. his wilson biography came out a few years into my work on this book. 2009. i started back in 2006. i think his judgment is very sound on just about everything. he is a wonderful biographer, a wonderful historian, a wonderful political historian and diplomatic histo. i would do my take and then i would look and see what john cooper said about it. we are not always on the same page but i admire his schola

brian lamb: president nixon -- brian lamb: go back to the chronology. the u.n. came after you were defeated for the senate? how did you get that job? pres. bush: president nixon said, we would like you to do something. he wanted john connolly to going to the secretary of the treasury. i walked in i was told i would be "taken care of." i didn't expect it. he suggested i might be coming to the white house as an aide. i didn't want to. i knew that yost was leaving as an ambassador to the united nations and i said, what about going there, even though i had no experience. theew how nixon felt about new york establishment. i think he saw, here is a guy that knows something about politics and can learn about the intricacies of foreign affairs. he sent me up there. i loved it. brian lamb: were you thinking then about the presidency? pres. bush: i do not know. brian lamb: how long were you at the u.n.? pres. bush: two years. brian lamb: what did you learn? pres. bush: the united nations is like a parliamentarian body in a sense. i learned to treat other countries large a

brian: 35-19 was the vote. david: correct. brian: did they pass on 11? david: they voted on two more. brian: what was president johnson's reaction to this? david: he was pleased. he wasn't ecstatic. it wasn't his makeup. andidn't go into public trumpet. trumpet it. he had had to pull on his horns of it. during the three months or so of the impeachment process, the final votes are in may, not june, he was not anywhere near as aggressive or controversial as he had been. people, i amring not going to do terrible things. veryd appointed a inappropriate guide to succeed stanton as secretary of war. he overruled himself and appointed a union general, john john stollfield who was pretty presentable. he was calibrating his behavior in a way that made him less threatening and less disturbing. presidency, he became a lame duck very fast. he didn't behave great for the rest of it, but his powers were pretty limited by then. i think the impeachment proceeding had clipped his wings. brian: how much did he pardon the south? david: his principal activity to,this proces

brian? pete: a true hero a new poll showing 70% of millennial women lean toward the democratic party. this number up from 56% just four years ago. brian: brit falls into that category. joins us to weigh in. brit, welcome. >> thank you. brian: i know you are pumped up for opening day with your background. why are these numbers going up. >> i am not one of those millennials identifying as a democrat. i think it's easy to espouse identity politics and be idealistic when your bank account is not being significantly taxed. as we saw in the 2016 presidential election, however, the poll numbers and survey numbers don't really transfer in the voting booth. president donald trump won 52% of white women, 61% of noncollege educated white women. so, that demographic is there. and i think that we can't undervalue the female vote. but maybe it will change once they start to have an income that's significant. pete: all of this is delayed further. they will be mugged by reality eventually and a lot of those

brian: a lot of smoking in this film. anjuli: brian: so what is happening here? edward: this is a [chuckles] a young layabout, i take it, from the bowery, he is probably a street bum who is trading in his clothese for a -- old for a uniform. it is going to be a challenge for his officers, to try to make a soldier out of him. brian: that is my next question. how did they train these men? edward: a lot of marching. the officers were often bluebloods. they did not know anything about how to interact with men like these. brian: can you explain the uniform? edward: well, this is the standard american field cap at the time. i'm not really a uniform expert, but these are the standard uniforms they would have worn in training camp. you can see here there are varieties from one soldier to another. brian: and at the moment we are still at camp upton, the training is still going on? edward: although they're getting ready to pull down the flag so they can depart for overseas. brian: and how did they get there? what was the trip like? edward: they had to board large transport

>> brian: columnist mark stein here. there are times when you have to split hairs to find the problem. we don't have to split hairs here. socialism, let's just embrace it? >> right, 20 years ago during the clinton era when you watched campaign ads, the democrats all ran as pseudo-conservatives. i am fred smith. i am on tough on crime. you had to wait in the the end to find out if this was a republican or democrat pretending to be tough on crime or the rest. i understand that's frustrating. they want to let their inner leftist out. the last cycle moderate democrats got associated with the clinton campaign. hillary is just someone whose turn it was and running a phoney balony foundation and getting 7 figure sums from saudi princes from doing nothing. that tainted the dictic party. with cynthia nixon the romance is on the far left. they are moving farther and farther left. >> brian: you have that 28-year-old who upset crowley and she lives in fear of any follow-up question on any topic. >> i can't remember if it was lenin o

great weekend. >> thank you so much, brian. >> brian: we forge ahead. after tuesday's midterms tucker sat down with former senator, one of the great guys in washington joe lieberman. here is his conversation with independent joe. >> tucker: senator, thanks a lot for joining us tonight. >> i'm delighted, tucker. >> good to be back with you. >> tucker: thank you. so, as the results are coming in last night, and it was clear that the democrats were going to retake the house of representatives as predicted, msnbc announced that one the top priorities of the incoming controlling party would be to obtain donald trump's tax returns. do you think that the mandate of this election? >> i don't. whether they go for the president's tax returns or not is up to them. but that certainly shouldn't be their priority. i want to give you my personal perspective. i'm the chairman of a group called no labels. we have been working to encourage bipartisan in congress. and this year for the first time we actually got into campaigns of people who were part of what we call the p

brian: john rich. brian kilmeade. we have a celebrity -- i was wearing the wrong jeans. >> did you not tell doocy there is dress code in the u.s. capitol. >> what are you doing wearing jeans? >> todd, was that a scream or a turkey call? >> you ms cause very close to my heart. >> janice dean the repelling machine. >> i'm grateful for you and the folks at home. janice: i'm almost there. brian: what i try to do is pull politics out of it and talk about the battle of new orleans. his country was losing this war badly. america needed a leader, they looked to jackson. steve: you track your books that started with george washington from the start. >> the book comes out today. >> it's k5u8d the light within me. getting here to the most famous curvey couch and just the ride. it's been extraordinary. and i'm so grateful to god. steve: cathy joined us today because the happy cookbook comes out today. we are going to go to somebody's house. they don't know we're coming. we're going to make you breakfast. where's your kitchen? thi

brian: did he write that himself? etan: yes. brian: where did he get that talent? etan: i have been taking him to different things with me for a long time. right now, he is in the waiting room and he is watching this. so he is watching and observing and learning and formulating his own opinion and formulating his own thoughts. that is what i am proudest of him. questions.nd he asks he has always asked questions. he sees things and says, ok, i see it is this way, but can it be this way as well? and sometimes, with young people, with the type of education that they are getting, they are almost taught to regurgitate answers, but not to think and form their own opinion. one thing that he does and has always done, without me having to tell him to is he is a thinker, forming his own opinion and his own thoughts. and nitrogen to write them down. brian: you see him in the seventh grade. any difference in the atmosphere when you were growing up in tulsa and his atmosphere in the d.c. area? etan: oh, yeah. so much has changed, especially with internet and social media. young

brian: all right. here is what the president tweeted out i'm glad my friend emmanuel macron have agreed with the conclusion i came to two years ago, the paris agreement is flawed because it raises prices of energy for responsible countries while white washing some of the worst polluters in the world. i want clean air and water and making great strides in improving america's ebb environment. but american taxpayers and american workers shouldn't pay to clean up other countries' pollution. don't fly in private jet to plead your clean clause. >> exactly. and it's so simple but it's so true. and when president trump pulled out of the paris accord back two years ago, everybody was all amazed. they were aghast and couldn't believe it yet, what we are seeing in the streets of paris today are exactly the point that he is making. these protesters we're seeing right now, these are not, you know, antigovernment conservative right wing protesters. brian: they are not. >> by all accounts they're more left wing prote

brian: sir? isgood morning, my name timothy romberg from san francisco, california, and a teach at skyline middle college in december know, a publicly funded dual enrollment program for motivated high school juniors and seniors to begin taking their community college courses early while still completing their high school diploma. students get set up to transfer to a four-year university in california after curriculum.he my role is the u.s. government and economics teacher for our students.el brian: how interested are the students in politics and government? >> my students love it. our entire class is based around current events. i feel like they really see their junior level u.s. history theory, andst as their senior-level government studies as practice, of how to actually become engaged in society and make a difference themselves. brian: and how did they get their current affairs? >> we research actively in class and students present current events to each other two times a week, based on things

brian. > brian: first off powerful social media and tech giants how are they taking some of our freedom away from us without us knowing it. >> this is a great question. obviously they are making a lot of stuff cheaper but they are increasingly monopoly companies if you think about it google is a monopoly in search and facebook is a monopoly in networking. they don't have competitors because of network effects that exist online. now from, a consumer's vantage point. what's not to like? amazon clearly makes stuff cheaper, including books, the things that you and i write for a living apple makes music cheaper. consumers aren't complaining, the big issue is the political consequences of companies like facebook becoming dominant publishers of news and other content. that's the issue. these companies have politics too, you know. brian: for example in music, even ja jay-z said wait a second i have lost full control of this to apple and google. start my own company. totally ineffective when it comes

brian: back to the book. the other states she went to like kentucky, virginia, north carolina, which one do you remember the most? caitriona: that is a hard question. state often ask me which you like the best and you cannot answer that really because they are so different and they -- virginia is not too far from washington dc and you can drive for half an hour and your honest in a different world. which is true for all of the united states. i love how diverse everywhere is in terms of the architecture is different. the suit is different. the population is different. -- the food is different. kentucky is very like ireland. i really loved that. the rolling green hills. countyton is twins with a which is as force mad as lexington is. as lexington is. love the irish people in lexington. north carolina, the beaches are incredible. i spent time in the outer banks, which is a stunning part of the country. brian: who is jason meister in new york? caitriona: jason is a guy who was a local organizer for the trump camp

brian: have you been to that town? bill: i have, yes. brian: what is it like today? bill: the interior of the town has not done terrifically. a lot of the highway went a half-mile outside of town, and the general store moved to the edge of town, that sort of thing. but it is still a quiet, peaceful little place, or it is quiet and peaceful little place. brian: that murder, has anybody ever been found or prosecuted for the murder back in those days? bill: at the time there were two were three what i would consider bogus prosecutions. a man was arrested and intimidated and beaten and put on trial, indicted for the murders, but the indictment was dropped because there was really no evidence. later a man known as the little minister, reverend lynn kelly, was tried twice for the crimes. it is my view -- and there are still people who believe that reverend kelly committed the crime -- i regard that as a complete impossibility. brian: how many crimes did you investigate for this book? bill: well, there were an awful lot of crimes that at one point we thought might be relate

brian: yeah. if it is not that, was the one -- there one you got more emails saying you messed up on that fact? lillian: fortunately, i did not get that at all. but i would say, for the "constitutional" podcast, one of the episodes that i think, the story surprised the most people and touched the most people, was actually the second episode i did, which was on chief standing bear. it's the story of a native american chief in the late 1800's, who, his tribe had been kicked off of their reservation, his son died in these malaria filled camps where they had been moved by the u.s. government, and all that the chief wanted to do was to take his dead young son and bring him back to where their secret burial grounds were. and he went on this trek across the plains during the winter to return his son's body and bury it. he was arrested by the u.s. government, who said he had no right to leave the reservation. and that case ended up being a crucial case, and it is hard to think this was even a question, bu

brian, steve, ainsley. brian: all right, griff. thanks. you wonder why people are allowed to walk into the situation room without some type of protocol of being able to empty their pockets from the president on down. you can't go in there with this. this matters too much in the past. in the era of the iphone you can't do it. ainsley: national security experts say no laws were broken. she won't be will punished for this. it's a violation, worrisome. surreptitious. they can't find any specific laws that were broken. steve: ultimately, it sounds as if she had a top secret clearance. ultimately the fall back is okay, we are going to take that from you. it doesn't do any good now. she doesn't need it when she is out selling a book. nonetheless, whether you have top secret clearance you understand what the rules are. that certainly is the situation room is a scif. it's one of those places with you are not supposed to have any of those devices. she took it. in and now we are reading the transcript. we are listening tout audio. of her conversation

brian: what do you mean by ethics? mr. gerhardt: carter wanted to restore ethics in washington and in the white house. he could make that part of his agenda. he later put into effect the government ethics act as president which was a cornerstone in ethical law. carter could make these promises and perhaps they had some appeal for people. in the wake of watergate, a lot of the country thought perhaps it was time to turn the page and see if we can do things better. brian: in the world of ethics, what remains today that he did? mr. gerhardt: a number of things still remain in effect that apply to judges and other federal officials. disclosure requirements, things that pertain to people in federal office. a lot of that is still around in one form or another. what some people might perceive as an obsession on the government's part, look at congress. the ethics committee. a lot of different forms people that work there have to fill out and comply with. the executive branch, a lot of disclosure laws and requirements about what pe

brian: why? prof. churchwell: they had financial scandals, sexual scandals that helped bringing them down. they were actually infiltrating government. indiana had the highest concentration of klansmen in the 1920's. illinois was right up there. i cannot one up you on that. people do not realize the extent to which it penetrated into the midwest, the extent to which lynching was traveling up. there were lynchings in california and oregon. the klein boasted that they had mayors from portland, oregon, to portland, maine. but had political influence that started the wane because they had scandals. then the crash happened and people could not afford the $10 you had to pay to be a klansmen. and they did not have the spare time. there was this sense that the targets of violence were shifting. the naacp was getting more active. started to crack down. roosevelt got involved and the federal government. more than two hundred anti-lynching bills were put on the floor of congress in the first half of the century an

brian: how was he rescued? dr. engel: in a small raft on the ocean, bobbing up and down, he had taken in seawater, was vomiting. he writes home to his parents he was crying. vomiting. he writes home to his parents he was crying. think about the adrenaline. then he noticed something particularly bad. his raft was beginning to move toward the island. that was really not a good place for an american pilot to go. we subsequently found out that other pilots who have been shot down on that island were not only killed by the japanese, but there was cannibalism that went on as well. bush, not knowing that, but knowing capture is not a great thing, paddles furiously the other direction and ultimately an american submarine picks him up. he spends the next month underwater with the crew doing submarine missions until he can get back to base. brian: when does he get out of the service? dr. engel: 1945. he had rotated back, had more training, flew 58 combat missions, really deserved time. after he was shot down, he could have t

brian: right. i haven't developed it yet. i'm just thinking about putting a house there. ainsley: congratulations. brian: i'm living on the lawn. ainsley: one-on-one with the president. brian: only 20 minutes from my house and they needed a place to eat for lunch and they stopped by and said you can have lunch at the house if you allow us for an interview. no. mercedes schlapp, kellyanne conway, and sarah huckabee sanders went to bat and said if we can squeeze you in we will do it. 12:30 in the afternoon if you can get out here in an hour we'll do it. steve: good luck. jet pack? brian: unfortunately it's in the repair shop, so i had to use a car. so, and that was tough, because this thing in new york city the traffic, that's the problem. ainsley: talking about ms-13, talked to him about immigration, the nfl has just said you have got to stay in the locker room if you are going to kneel. you asked him so many things. what were his responses? brian: first off, very emotional meeting about ms-13 the v

brian: wow. that family, wife and marine sergeant britney jacobs and their 7-year-old that the president calls his buddy christian joins us right now. ainsley: good morning. >> good morning, hi. >> good morning, hi. ainsley: what was that day like for you guys? christian, we will start with you. what was it like when called you his buddy and met you last year and told story. >> good. brian: britney, i understand you are so proud of him because he was paying so great attention to the entire ceremony for a 7-year-old that is not easy. what was it like sitting next to him and hearing all the references from the president like that? >> it was super special. it's going to be something to look back with christian and he is going to be so proud when he gets older and fully understands it all. pete: that's right. >> it was awesome. it was amazing. brian: i have a 7-year-old he iitook him to a ceremony yesterday. is he a squirrel. he wouldn't listen or stand still. how much has thi your mom taught you abo

brian: is that true? john: more or less. brian: do you mix it up? john: we do and we have a lot of fun. brian: what do you disagree on? john: everything. where possible, i will admit we exaggerate disagreements to rouse students. we have done that for years and we are still neighbors and close friends. but the students enjoy this kind of dialogue and debate among their professors. i think they take some reassurance in knowing there are several ways of looking at a problem instead of some party line. i think they respect the possibility for arguing vigorously within a framework of mutual respect and civility. they know we are good friends. they know we go out to dinner and they come over to our houses. we are close enough with them that is possible for the students. the combination of vigorous intellectual debate among close personal friends who are at the same time dedicated teachers, i think has been a wonderful thing and a very rare thing. it depends so much on personality. very few places would be able to replicate this. i'm not sure if they can

>> it is, brian. fox news confirms that comey is under investigation by the justice department's internal watchdogs.ey the inspector general for leaking the memos, whether he mishandled classified information, as well as his communications outside the fbi including reporters. the memos show the relationship between the president and comey was difficult from the veryhi beginning. after comey briefed mr. trumps about the dossier's unverified claims, just three weeks before the inauguration. those who support the president say that he wanted the russia claims investigated. comey said that it would be good to find out but he hadn't done anything at hoped he would find a way to get out, we weren't investigating him. the president's saying that he crossed the line -- comey replied that he would always get honesty from me. trump paused and said, that's what he wants come on his loyalty, i replied and said, he will get that for me. of the 15 pages of memos, eight contained classified information, secret, high

so i got angry, brian. i wrote one letter when i thought i was smeared about an ugly story about a scanner. what we had done was seen brand new technology. most of the rest of the media people reported it that way. brian: in a grocery store. pres. bush: at a convention. i said this was amazing. but some lazy reporter from the new york times who was not even there and wrote he's out of touch, he does not know you can scam -- scan groceries. even though other people said this was unfair, most everybody give special treatment to newsweek, which i was not going to do even though the reporter is a valued friend of mine. i said why give him special treatment? i'll answer questions, but not going to give him inside access after you do a dutch job on me like that -- gut job. so i got angry, brian. i wrote one letter when i thought i was smeared about an ugly story about a scanner. what we had done was seen brand new technology. brian: in a grocery store. pres. bush: at a convention. i said this was amazing. but som

brian: this was the north. tom: it is still the north, but this is world war ii korea, right after -- actually, at that point, north korea was split. he eventually migrates to south korea, there was a lot of traffic from north korea to south korea. he starts to church, moves to seoul and starts a church. by the mid-to-late 1950's. and it's a conservative message. very family centered, sanctity of marriage. homosexuality, anything outside of traditional marriage was anathema to him. he eventually has 30 churches in seoul and it keeps growing. the controversy with reverend moon and the unification church were some of their aggressive recruiting methods, among other things. but they grow and grow, and in the late 1960's he decides to come to the u.s. his goal was to unite the world under one religion and he considered himself the second messiah. he comes to the u.s., gets a little more involved politically, his group marriages i think were the thing he was most known for. but the moonies were everywhere in the sta