commissioner cleaveland. . >> comm. cleaveland: i would to respond to commissioner alioto veronese, of course it is a crime they are out there and they are resting, it's not been for lack of interest on this commission. i assure you of that. we have made contact with several city departments to see if there was a location that they could be housed. even when we find locations, we do not have the money, in the department budget, to pay the rent. we cannot get free housing. we were lucky enough to have the academy of art provide us a location for many of these historic rigs, for a number of years for free. we were very thankful for that. they eventually needed their space back. we got pushed out, basically we have homeless rigs. okay? we have asked the parks department, we have asked the port, we have asked dpw, we have asked puc. do you have space? well, if they come up with space, they have a dollar attached to it. where are the funds going to come from? aren't we supposed to be fundraisers here as commissioners? i mean

commissioner cleaveland? >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you, mr. president and chief for your report. i understand that the department has engaged a real estate broker. can you identify the broker? >> chief nicholson: the department of real estate has and i do not know. >> commissioner cleaveland: all right. a quick question on the relocation of the training facility. i know there has been talk about the school of the arts site, soda. and i know we have talked to the school board, but i wondered where that was. >> chief nicholson: what i can say about different sites, we don't really want to talk about it in open session in case somebody else gets the idea that they want to go in there, so we're not going -- i'm not going -- i'm happy to talk to you offline about things, but yeah. >> commissioner cleaveland: sure. all right. >> chief nicholson: we'll chat. >> commissioner cleaveland: in terms of the chase center that vice president kovington brought up, doesn't the chase center have a private ambulance contract, so they're going to have ambulances