and joined by jennifer horn. barbara, sam nunberg says there's less than 10% prosecutors could get to trump through weisselberg. if he doesn't flip, are the charges worth it in the end? >> well, first, i think the charges that have already been alleged are significant. i know that president trump and lawyers have tried to minimize them as no big deal but a 15-year scheme to evade taxes, weisselberg alone to the tune of $1.7 million, is already a significant charge. but even if allen weisselberg doesn't flip i think there's still some approaches here. number one, we heard attorney general leticia james continues. bank fraud and insurance fraud are also things on their radar. but there's also an other option which is to take the weisselberg case to the end. he is either convicted or acquitted at trial and at that point he no longer has a fifth amendment right. he could be put in grand jury and asked questions where he could be compelled to testify. >> one of the trump organization's attorneys released a statement.

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craig horn and he's been away in london specifically because he was attending a convention of winston churchill enthusiasts this is how he's describing the stand on the north carolina marriage law that they have been weighing on him to vote for. he says this, quote, as i try to do all the time, i wait until the very last minute to make my final decision. winston churchill would be proud, the house did not take up the veto today, they have instead moved it to the calendar for monday. i sits there under the category of unfinished business, we'll keep you posted on this one. mccrory. hey, you forgot the milk! that's lactaid. right. 100% real milk, just without the lactose. so you can drink all you want... ...with no discomfort? exactly. here, try some... mmm, it is real milk. see? delicious. hoof bump! oh. right here girl, boom lactaid®. 100% real milk. no discomfort and for a creamy and delicious treat, try lactaid® ice cream >>> i was three days after 9/11, september 14th, 2001 and congress was taking a vote to authorize the president to use military force around the world to respond

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one of the republicans they've been waiting on for this vote is representative craig horn. he's been away in london specifically because he was attending a convention of winston churchill enthusiasts. he's now come back from his churchill conference, and as he's talking to the local press this is how he's describing the stand on the north carolina marriage law that they have been waiting on him to vote for. he says this, quote, as i try to do all the time, i wait until the very last minute to make my final decision. winston churchill would be proud. and north carolina, your fate is in his hands. the house did not take up the veto today, even though they've had it on the docket. they've moved it to the calendar for monday. it sits there under the category of unfinished business. we'll keep you posted on this one. can you spot the difference? no? you can't see that? alright, let's take a look. the one on the right just used 1% less fuel than the one on the left. now, to an airline a 1% difference could save enough fuel to power hundreds of flights around the world. hey, look

. >> and craig, good day to you from the supreme court. can you hear horns honking in the background. in is not somebody getting married. this is some kind of demonstration by the city's cab drivers. just going on in the street between me and the u.s. capitol. but back to the business at hand. the supreme court ruled that aereo, the internet streaming service that allowed people to watch broadcast tv on a mobile device like an ipad or cell phone violates federal law by retransmitting copy righted programs without paying a copy right fee. aereo claimed the way it was set up where each viewer gets the antenna and space in a rack of digital video recorders was like recording programs at home using your own dvr. but the supreme court rejected that by a 6-3 vote. it's probably a death nail to aereo which said before the decision that if the supreme court went against it it, would probably not stay in business. aereo is something like 12 cities right now. waiting for the decision had stopped the spread to other cities. now it seems likely aereo

i today craig, if you don't blow your own horn, there is no music. >> and what do you think of this indefinite suspension? do you think it will last the full season? >> i don't think it will last a full season. i don't know whether it will be ten games or a dozen games or 15 games but ucla, to maintain any athletic integrity and though in the world in ncaa sports "athletic integrity" sounds like an oxymoron, they had to take a strong stance with these young men. general kelly had them this right. he called them knuckle heads. this was knuckleheaded behavior but it was also criminal behavior and this is the bill that's been presented by their coach and athletic director. >> what does that do for the ucla team for the rest of the season no how important were these players? >> i don't care. i think this is between the school and these three young men. and they say they've learned a valuable lesson. well if this suspension costs their team a chance at the ncaa tournament, then they will have really learned a lesson won't they. >> you know who's going to care? their teammates and the fans and not t

>> i am, craig and for that reason, i have sought the golden mean between the two extremes. on the one hand, a number of people propose that teachers in general bring guns to school. i'm' opposed to that. i think it would cause more dangers than it solves. i do not think it's a good idea. on the other hand, it's not a good idea to do nothing either. if we had another opportunity of newtown, where a number of people got killed and it could have been prevented had we done something. we would regret doing nothing. my proposal is the middle proposal to do something but avoid doing things that creates harm than good. i have offered to give free training to the principal and the designee in each school. we would train them in when to shoot, not to shoot, how to lockup the gun. >> what if the principal or the designate, and he or she is in the gym and the gunman comes through the front door of the school? what good does that do? >> part of it is to have a good communication system. so if there's an emergency in any part of the school. they can get to the location quickly. >> the sh

blow your own horn, there is no music." and that was our president in this matter today. you know, it's -- this has been resolved now and i think fairly, but it wasn't the resolution i was hoping for because one of the players is liangelo ball and i was kind of hoping we could do a prisoner swap and send his father to china and bring the players back. craig, serious ly. i hope at this press conference there's some sort of suspension for these three knuckle heads as general kelly calls them. if there's not, if they think they've already learned a valuable lesson by being detained for a week i think they're wrong. i think they're kind of getting off easy. i'm not saying this should have turned into "midnight express." but ucla has to send a powerful message to these young men that what they did was something incredibly chowder headed in somebody else's country. >> and there are growing calls for these three players to be suspended. there's an article from the school newspaper that goes so far as to say "ucla needs to lay down

. >> thank you, craig, and thanks for highlighting that sort of 10 horn dictator stuff. my god, what have we come to. i thought it was outrageous. if you doubt this guy is a fascist, he made it clear with that comment. >> thank you for not lumping me in with the rest of the talking heads. i think that was a compliment. >> it was. >>> after the break, putting them to the test. go to the truth. we'll bring out experts from politifact. we love these guys. ♪ ♪ ♪ look out honey... the highly advanced audi♪ ♪ a't gotime to makeno apologie >>> secretary of state with the so-called line in the sand. >> i was gone, i hate to interrupt you, but -- >> excuse me, you were in total contact with the white house. >> all right. did someone say fact check? fact checkers from politifact put 29 claims from last night's combative presidential debate through their truth-o-meter. politifact editor angie eoghan with me now. let's start that. was she secretary of state when president obama drew that so-called, red line in the sand with syria? >> hillary clinton said she was gone. we r

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>> so, craig, actually if i turn here you're going to see two bradley fighting vehicles. and these are just some of the military might that's going to be on display tomorrow evening. this is, of course, being transported on such a large flatbed because of how heavy they are. the abrams tanks which are other tanks parked nearby and going to be on the mall weigh as much as 60 tons. you can imagine that's something that could damage d.c. streets and some of the president's critics have expressed concern about that. but that's what the president wants on display. he wants to do the salute to america and feature all of these different military vehicles after being inspired two years ago at the bastille day celebrations in paris where he saw the parade with president emmanuel macron and said i would very much like to do this. he then thought it was going to be taking place on veterans day, but that got canceled, you may remember, and moved to the fourth of july because of how expensive it is. "the washington post" is reporting that it's going to be at least 2.5 million in entra

. >> and craig, good day to you from the supreme court. can you hear horns honking in the background. in is not somebody getting married. this is some kind of demonstration by the city's cab drivers. just going on in the street between me and the u.s. capitol. but back to the business at hand. the supreme court ruled that aereo, the internet streaming service that allowed people to watch broadcast tv on a mobile device like an ipad or cell phone violates federal law by retransmitting copy righted programs without paying a copy

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other side of the excitement, which is i'm surrounded by people who clearly from the sound of their horns are trying to get somewhere and are realizing that the new reality here is that at least for the next couple of days this is going to be a constant state of being, craig. >> during this conversation we are seeing a number of folks already lining this route. and i lived here for a number of years, as did you. you are absolutely right. it is not a day in washington, d.c. unless there is a motorcade that interrupts your commute. chris jansing doing what so many do here in dc, sitting in traffic, waiting for a light to change. we'll come back to you in just a bit, chris. thank you so much. >>> meanwhile, minority outreach after pitching himself to african-american voters as the what do you have to lose candidate, has the president-elect alienated minorities before he has even taken office? some black voters in opinions opinions, pennsylvania will share their thoughts as criticism grows over a lack of diversity in the trump white house. we'll have that right after this. are you getting thi

. >> thanks, craig. let's go overseas and developing right now, the united states is moving 150 marines from spain to the horn of africa to help with evacuations from sudan that appears to be on the brink of another civil war. let 380 u.s. citizens have been evacuated safely but that mission is proving risky over the weekend, three u.s. aircraft trying to rescue americans were fired upon. four u.s. servicemen were hurt and violent scene in sudan, all sparked by a political fight between the president and his ousted vice president. today the ex-vice president says he's ready to start dialogue, only if die detained allies are set free. meanwhile, president obama is leaving the door open for military involvement. i may take further action to support the security of u.s. citizens personnel and property, including our embassy in south sudan. "washington post" foreign correspondent joining me live on the phone from the capital juba where the fighting began there. let's start with the embassy, what can you tell

you got bipartisan horn. i almost didn't but i did. >>> and you at home can see more of craig's exclusive interview with president biden, including whether he would order service members to get the vaccine. the full one-on-one interview airs at 11:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. >>> now to a tragic story breaking overnight. if you didn't see this, watch it now. about 45 people were crushed to death and more than 150 injured in a stampede at a religious festival in northern israel. rath sanchez is digging deeper into this. what happened? >> steph, thousands of people gathered last night on a mountain in northern ireland to mark the jewish festival. they had to pass a narrow metal walkway that went around the corner, down a flight of stairs. it looks like at that corner there was confusion, overcrowding and people got trampled under foot. i spoke a little earlier to an official from the israeli national ambulance service. he tells me there were children as young as 15 among the dead. about 150 people injur

can you see anything down there, craig? >> no. i don't. i do see one of the principle organizers using thing megaphon. i saw folks running down cantfield. that is where the deadly shooting that start ailed of this -- that's where it happened. we're two blocks away from that apartment complex. chris, as you have been hearing the police over the last 15-20 minutes or so instructing folks to not gather to keep moving, essentially. a lot of folks aren't doing that right now. a lot of folks are stopped and walking up and down the sidewalk. >> we're seeing some passenger vehicles come by here now, up and down the street. and there are folks sort of walking around but they're mostly -- they mostly want people -- they mostly want people to leave from the quick trip area, and there's that standoff you can see, again, the kind of standing order all day -- one of the dynamics that's been in play here is police issue some kind of bright line and then the kind of confrontation ensues over the enforcement of the bright line. we saw that happen two night

. >> good to see you, craig. >> let's start with the debate over the last few years. we saw jenny horne, a lot of folks crediting her with helping get the football over the 1 yard line for you guys. what was it like wednesday night? >> it was tough. it was tough for all the democrats who had to sit on their hands and not say anything. we didn't want to ruin it. we didn't want one democrat to make a speech an impassioned speech but we believed had we done that that flag wouldn't come down. we sat there if you watch the debate for hours upon hours. the republicans got up basically talked to themselves as democrats did nothing. >> so as not to antagonize. >> that's extremely difficult and it's exactly what we did. when you saw democrats finally get up and talk they did so so we could go in the back and negotiate. my democratic caucus i can't thank them nfl. while i was in the back talking to the speaker, talking to representative quinn, they did that. while we were asking people to take time, jenny said she wanted to speak. i came out and heard her crying. that's simply

(car horn) >>> i'm andrea mitchell. chris jansing takes it over in new york. >> thank you so much, andrea. good afternoon from our msnbc headquarters i am chris jansing in for craig melvin. trump's talking. the president clearly has a lot to get off his chest, ripping to reporters on his way to dallas saying giuliani will get his facts straight, as giuliani himself says he'll issue a correction soon. >>> plus -- credibility crisis. the white house press secretary gets pounded with reporters' questions about the misinformation and lies coming out of the white house, even as she is forced to backtrack, and the president makes more misleading statements

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