books are all available at the counter of the bookstore, please please help me welcome ali vitale in cuba, lily. hi everyone. i'm so excited to be here fourth event in the space feeling really good about being back. person and to be here to celebrate kim's amazing achievement of this latest book, you're so prolific. we're just talking about how many she has and i think it's so striking you say it's just this big moment for ethics and civic engagement and i think this latest book really speaks to that. and of course many of us know kim from her columns from her many appearances. i'm thankful as someone who's also all the time on msnbc you and i often get to float in boxes together next to each other. so to be here in person is is a real treat. i've been excited about doing this talk for weeks now, but i'm really excited that we're doing it today of all days because the first thing that i thought of this morning was the news that we ended up covering all day, which was on the leaked memo or decision from the supreme court about the dobbs versus mississippi case, and the first thing i though

this is a globetrotter with santa ana and cuba and visiting paris on all those kind of things. an amazing man but what is notable as they were prominent in the african american community and john mercer langston, they were real aristocracies in the community but there's no money in that community. they all sort of suffered in their own way, the prominent businesses started to die out and struggled through money and that kind of thing. you can see how segregation was constrained. >> i want to bring in some questions from the audience here. how well or not did harlan get along with his colleagues on the court? >> that is a fascinating question and there are two answers. i think that he got along pretty well in terms of the basic social etiquette and even did a story of him sharing an apple on a streetcar with justice mckenna. on the other hand there was less decorum when the income tax was ruled there was commentary how he was on the bench shaking his fist at the justice who was an antagonist at various points so some historians today will say that it was a little wild west on th

so he came to believe that it was a cancer and they took over the philippines, hawaii, puerto rico, cuba during the period of american imperialism. he was the main voice for the constitution following the flag. he insisted on giving full constitutional rights to filipinos and why i'm saying you cannot have two systems under one roof, you cannot have the constitution that is in one place and then a call to the other system by congress in another place. he saw that as a restoration of the kind of imbalances that led to civil war. so he's looking through a completely different set of eyes. on the other justices, almost all of them were enlightened northerners that opposed slavery, were well educated, went into the law of the time that being a lawyer meant doing traditional work and as they grew older, railroads changed the economy dramatically. suddenly people that patrolled the rails were able to control whole industries and distributions of goods. immediately theydi were pressurd from various state governments to regulate the railroads and control the railroads and their power. and this s

this was a globetrotter who, you know, was gambling with general santa ana in cuba and visiting paris and all this kind of stuff. so he was an amazing man. but what's notable is his descendants, all of whom were prominent in the african-american community, his grandson -- he were real sort of aristocracy within the black community, but there was no money in the black community. so they all sort of suffered in their own way, you know, prominent businesses started to tie out, and, you know, struggles foror money and that kind of thing. and it just, you can see how segregation constrained black -- [inaudible] >> so i want to bring in some of the questions from the audience here. edward asks, as a lone dissenter, how well or not did harlan get along with his colleagues on the court? >> that's a fascinating question, and there sort of are two answers. i think that he got along pretty well in terms of the basic social etiquette of the job, and he even occasionally there's a story of him sharing an apple on a streetcar with justice mckenna who was a frequent, frequently in the majority while

later, actually, in his life when the united states took over the philippines, hawaii, puerto rico, cuba and during the period of american imperialism. he was the main voice for the constitution following the flag. he insisted on giving full constitutional rights to filipinos and hawaiians saying you cannot have two systems under one roof. you cannot have the constitution the in force in one place and then some counseled-together system by congress in another place. he saw that as a restoration of the kind of imbalances that led to civil war. so he's looking at -- one other huge influence on other justices, almost all of them were enrightenned northerners -- enlightened northerners who opposed slavery, were well educated, went into the law at a time when being a lawyer meant, you a know, hanging a shingle ad doing traditional field work -- legal workad and representation. as hay grew older, railroads -- they grew older, railroads changed the economy dramatically. suddenly, the people who controlled the rails were able to control whole industries and distribution of goods throughout the c

when fidel castro opened his walls, we were getting ready to ship them back to cuba, fiddle -- they thought they would die if they went back to cuba, we had them in a federal prison, they took over the prison, sieged 11 hostages, i was confronted with head of prison. and the prison unite like a port fortress you could not see in. i realized we could never give in to their demands, which were to stay in the united states. we couldn't give in, we vul would have to do a hostage rescue, i activated the hrt, hostage rescue team of the fbi fact, they started immediately training and planning for an operation, i worked closely with the top guys in the fbi. on this after 9 days we had not fed them, it is a interesting movie, kind of thing you could make a good movie, but once john candy died there was no one left to play me. i hear on twitter to john goodman would be a good one. all dramatic, there were last minute curveballs to whether we would in there and find the hostages in time. because they had knives and started playing russian roulette putting their names in a bag, stuff like that,

they would rather be in a federal prison and go back to cuba. and i knew we couldn't give in and that eventually we were going to have to do a hostage rescue. and so i activated the each rt the house address key team of the fbi and they started immediately training and planning for an operation. i worked very closely with the top guys in the fbi. on this and after nine days, we hadn't fed them or anything. it's a very interesting story. it's the kind of thing. you can make a good movie about actually as long but john can't once john candy died. there was no one left to play me. yeah, but although i hear on twitter that that john goodman. but anyway sorry, finally, you know, i i gave the order to conduct the hostage rescue and it was implemented at 4 am in the morning and it was all very dramatic. you know, there were some last-minute curve balls as to whether we were gonna get in there and actually be able to find the hostages and time. because they had knives and they had started playing russian roulette by putting their names in a bag and stuf

inevitably will be those that are now in the crosshairs of us imperialism speaking of for example, a cuba china venezuela iran. russia north korea, and so therein you begin to see the dialectical connection between the global. and the domestic because to the extent that we can put pressure on us imperialism with regard to its domestic maladies to that extent. it seems to me at least. that we're trying to also push simultaneously away from war. away from aggressive wars towards peace towards dramatic cuts in the pentagon budgets, which do little more than facilitate wars of aggression. and so there is you begin to see. how there is an interlocking directorate if you like? between the struggle for peace and the struggle against racism and the struggle against white supremacy. something that the late alpheus hunting represented. as is documented in this very worthwhile book that is now before us. well, i think not only that but when we are able to cut the war budget, we're able to expand the budget for people's needs. we're able to expand the budget for healthcare and education and infrastru

with kennedy that embolden's khrushchev to make the move in cuba. and it's the resolution of that that that conflict between the two that gives cruise chef respect for kennedy for the first time for the reasons that i mentioned what the way that khrushchev talked about it in his memoir is that kennedy was clear-headed in that moment. he did show grace and equanimity. he did talk to khrushcheff. i'll be at through back channels to try to find a peaceful resolution. and again, he didn't paint himself into a corner and that made a difference and after that point chris jeff's stock goes down in the world and john f. kennedy's goes up. there are so many fascinating details in this book. i really enjoyed reading it. i really hope everyone gets a chance to read them all. tell your friends spread the word. i do want to be respectful everyone's time and i want to give you the chance to share any other peace of information or a story or a nugget from here that you think people would find interesting before we leave the stage and enjoy the rest of i'll take a

maria escapedria, cuba to come to america and she makes thousands of phone calls oswith americans for prosperity, preaches the gospel of freedom. maria is here with you this weekend but there's also samantha, she walks neighborhood after neighborhood to knock doors and talk about the issues while pushing a baby in a stroller. there is one, a colombian immigrant for freedom and prosperity and now he tirelessly engages people of his community to fight to keep the promise for all fellow americans. these are the stories of individuals but there are two things that make them more powerful than what just one person is doing. first, these folks are changemakers in their communities. at a time when people don't know who to trust, grassroots activism neighbors talking to neighbors and it's incredibly powerful. second, you're not alone. true americans for prosperity, hundreds of thousands of people across the country are having these conversations every day and we don't quit because we care about the future of the country and we know it is up to us. your presence here today tells me yout are ju

the empty shelves is what i expect to find in cuba not which wichita, kansas. >> to the point person was for the formula shortage. she had no idea who the point person was. may god help the babies. the shelves and stores are empty. how are we supposed to feed our babies. i believe they need to step in and get answers to the public and get this resolved. katie from manhattan. no room for bureaucracy. lisa from seneca. i am an expectant mother due in june. i'm terrified i will not be able to find formula for my newborn. we already have to worry about gas prices inflation. i don't need anything else to worry about. >> what would you suggest i tell these moms, grandmom's? >> well, first of all, we are physicians and a physician in a hospital or healthcare system is captain of the ship and takes accountability. that is why i am here. we are sorry we are in the situation and we are working night and day to try to fix it at this point. we know that there will be further inconvenience. beyond inconvenience in terms of desperation that parents feel. they all should should contact us because w

. >> the ones that they box is cuba, nicaragua, venezuela. there have been countries, mexico for one that has essentially said everyone should be invited to the summit but the white house has been a little choosier about certain governments that they put on ice for a bit. we will see who attends and if there's any strife among leaders and whether that overshadows the agenda that the white house has. >> you had a column at the hill headlined five things to watch when biden hearest attend the summit of the americas why is this event important to the white house in light of domestic policy challenges in foreign policy challenges in particular of the ukraine were. >> certainly domestically migration and immigration is something that republicans are very keen to talk up and criticize the white house over into goes hand-in-hand with the refugee situation in ukraine is only exacerbated the issue but there may be some talk about migration and refugees and whether they can broker a deal among some of the attendees at the summit. on top of that there a

yes, it changes you it really does and and in the early days we know when cuba was still i mean, i think they've suffered so much now that you know, everybody's kind of crazy, but you know in the early days going there for instance instance and seeing those people. you know just doing all they could do to learn how to read and write, you know, you know, basically live a decent life. it was it was transformative. it was i mean just to know that it's possible. yes, and you spent time with fidel like you you listen to feel of course adele's voice. oh honey. i mean he talked a whole lot and a lot of it was just incredibly interesting and and wonderful, and he actually unlike, you know some leaders. i mean you meet them and you know, they shake your hand and everything, but try to have a conversation with them, you know, and you realize that they know very little about anything he knew something about everything. it was remarkable his mind and his commitment and his humor. yeah. yes. yes. has your commitment? to the common good of earth and really human like earth like living livingness becau

take cuba, for 60 years cuba has been under direct attack by the united states, begin with the kennedy administration. kennedy carried out a major terrorist waraj against cuba. not much discussed here, but it was real and very serious, it's part of what led to the missile crisis that almost destroyed us. then harsh sanctions were imposed. well, they continued when russian support was withdrawn and cuba faced really serious problems with the limited support they were getting under the harsh u.s.. sanctions regim. at that moment bill clinton outflanked the republicans from the right, from the right by increasing the sanctions, increasing the torture, and then came the law which made it even worse. u.s. sanctions or what are called third-party sanctions, others have to adhere to u.s. sanctions even if they oppose them. and in the case o cuba, dramatically the whole world opposes them strenuously. you take a look at the annual votes in the united nations on the cuba sanctions. they are condemned every year. by now they are condemned by everyone. the last boat was one 100 8. the two worth t

take cuba, for 60 years, cuba has been under direct attack by the united states. beginning with the kennedy administration. kennedy carried out a major terrorist war against cuba but it was real and very serious which led to the missile crisis that almost destroyed us and when coursing shells were imposed. but then they continue when russian support was withdrawn and cuba faced those problems it was a limited support it was getting under the regime and clinton outflanked to the republicans from the right by increasing the sanctions and the torture and then it made it even worse. us sanctions were called third-party sanctions to adhere to us sanctions and in the case of cuba, dramatically the whole world opposes them strenuously and then they are condemned y every year and it was 184 / two for the united states and israel which has to followrs us orders. actually doesn't even observe the sanctions. but to observe us sanctions even though they oppose them because they are afraid of the united states, it is a frightening country. europe opposes the sanctions and the

you put in place an alternative, withholding of aid from ukraine, it did get over there, blockading cuba and venezuela, activity with iran, some instances suggesting calling up retired officers from active-duty and court-martialed him because they are saying things people didn't like, what were you prepared to do if there was a case when there was a red line was crossed? >> a lot of great questions here, something i wrestled with a lot, you go back to the book, part of the constitution's article 2 which establishes the president as the commander in chief and you're bound to obey his lawful orders. in many ways i was fortunate because donald trump rarely issued orders but for the germany case but walking through these things sequentially, in terms where ukraine assistance which we are obligated under the law because congress appropriated it would be me at times army and john bolton or john bolton and mike pompeo and i would engage the president and push him to release a security assistance, we learned why, i released it through the media why he was holding it up but that was a case where

he would be some reason they would die if they were back to cuba we had them in a federal prison 120 than they took over the prison, seized 11 hostages i was confronted with the head of prisons comes in the prison unit is like a fortress it was solid concrete, big metal gates and so rforth. make a long story short i realized we could never give in to their demands their demands were to stay into the united states they would rather be in a federal prison than go back to cuba. i knew we could not give in. eventually we're going to have to do a hostage rescue. and so i activated hrt the hostage rescue team of the fbi for the start immediately training and planning for operation but i work very closely with the top guys in the fbi on this. and after nine days we had fed them or anything it's a very interesting story it's a kind of thing you can make a good movie about actually. once john candy died there was no one left to play him. [laughter] although i hear on twitter that john goodman. [laughter] gave the order to conduct the hostage rescue. it was implemented at 4:00 a.m. in the morn

they would rather be in a federal prison that go back to cuba. and we knew we couldn't give in and eventually we're going to have to do a hostage rescue. and so i activated hostage rescue team of the fbi and to start immediately training and planning for operation. i worked very closely with the top guy in the fbi on this, and after nine days we have had them or anything. it's a very interesting story, i kind of thing you could make a very good movie about actually. but once john candy died there was no one left to play me. [laughing] although i hear on twitter that john goodman -- but anyway, so i finally, i gave the order to conduct a hostage rescue and it was implemented at 4 a.m. it was all dramatic. there were some last-minute curveballs ask whether we're going to get in there and actually be able to find hostages in time. because they have nights and it started playing russian roulette by putting the names in a bag and stuff like that. anyway, it was a success. it took less than a minute to reach the hostages, and they were all rescued. so

so something like john jr's first word is cuba, so he loses influential friends caroline swallows live frog loses person. yeah. so it's it's just, you know a great kind of quirky example of some of the the products that were produced during the time, you know, the kennedy that kennedy was in office again something that's not authorized by the first family. you go from you know, these these commercial items to you know other parts of the exhibit which focus on what you know in the midst of this blitz of publicity in these commercial items what people were moved to send the children and in caroline's case that was predominantly dolls, you know, the the gifts tended to be very separated and you know, established gender kind of roles of the time so here we are at the next exhibit we can obviously see there are lots of dolls here these were sent to caroline as gifts. correct. yes, somebody heads of state. some by individuals from the various countries that the dolls came from some we don't know who sent them. we just know the countries they represent most are in like costumes that reflect t

he went to cuba for a year to do a political education a training, you know, yeah. yeah, and well, you know, he became an organized. right, he comes back in the party at that point. the the metro in carrakis was just starting in his small party. wanted to have some influence over the union so they sent him to get a job as a bus driver which he did and he drove a bus for some i could never find out exactly how many months but it wasn't very long and then he, you know, very quickly get to post in the union. so yes, he doesn't continue to yeah, but he was in that union for a while. so he does have also a union background to some degree. um, and then he becomes close to chavez after the coup and then works with child is after that he becomes he's elected to the national assembly. he becomes the head of the national assembly. his wife is also having an initial assembly i think before him and then travis elevates him to for many foreign minister and then after travis winter election in 2012, he makes him vice president and by that child is if he doesn't know that he's dyi

an alternative there was withholding of aid from ukraine finally it did get over there blockade and cuba and venezuela activity with iran. some instances that suggested call up retired officers from active duty in court marshall because they're saying things people didn't like and what were you prepared to do if there was a case when there was a red line that was crossed and you weren't able to support it. look a lot of great questions here and it's one of the things, you know, i wrestled with a lot you go back to the book sacred oath this oath this to the constitution but part of the constitution is article 2 which establishes the president. he's the commander in chief and and you're also bound to obey his lawful orders and you know, many ways. i was fortunate because president trump rarely issued orders, but for the the germany case, but kind of walk through these things sequentially you're right in terms are ukraine assistance, which we are obligated to do under the law because congress appropriated, it would be me at times or me and john bolton or john bolton and mike pompeo and i wo

. >> and one law this week, thousands of my constituents fled from in venezuela, cuba and now governor desantis is bringing that to florida that putin or castro could applause. are we seeing the creeping owed obedience that we're seeing that you talked about. >> number one you're right to make these comparisons and cubans and the older generation can remember policies from the homeland which are implemented in florida now. number two, i think you're right to talk about anticipatory obedience and normal to teach them as normal so they become the new normal and number three should people be resisting? absolutely. the way that democracies are overcome in the 21st century is generally from within and it's generally by clever leaders who find ways around the rules and find ways to create-- to find ways to use minority positions which polarize and-- >> thank you. >> thanks. >> thank you, mr. snyder, it's not enough to call ron desantis as a cultural warrant, we should call him a tyrant to install hateful policies in florida. i want to turn next to ms. cousins, because as a floridian you look

she complained the school is been closed in cuba. we are getting nothing for this other than there's less of a chance cuba's or venezuelans are ever going to see democracy. [inaudible] [background noises] [inaudible] [background noises] does it give you any concern? >> you are a pretty astute reported if the election is today will take a look at it after receipt of the nominee is. reporter: you have any responsibility which is one thing that motivated the shooter in buffalo some of your members have talked about too some degree? >> will certainly the episode this horrible episode in buffalo is a result of a completely deranged young man who ought to suffer the severest possible penalty under the law. reporter: [inaudible] >> senator manchin. [inaudible] ten votes intent republican votes? >> i love to be the majority leader. hope to be after november. that is a better question to ask of senator schumer. : : : administration has taken a number of steps in the direction that needs addressed as something that could be done by the adminis

. >> is there any update on whether cuba or nicaragua or venezuela will be invited to the american summit and when are you going to be announcing the presentation? >> i don't have any update on invitations or when we're going to announce invitations . as soon as we have that we will promise to share. thank you. >> to quick questions on internal policy review. the first is on the border patrol agents. in the september of last year , there was an arrival of haitian migrants. it's been eight months at this point and we don't have any conclusion of that review. the president has wondered, he did anything at the time and secretary mayorkas said there would be a conclusion in two weeks. an emergency given that the administration is now preparing for the new arrival ? >> it's a very good question. i don't have an update on that. department of homeland security that's where you mentioned secretary mayorkas, that's where that review sits and as soon as we have an update i promise to sharethat . or they will share that that would not come from here. i just don't have an update but i understand the

also winning in the history category was with cuba: an american history, which looks back at thet last 500 years of that nation. now, in the memoir category, the winner of the 2032 pulitzer prize was the latest win fred -- chasing me to his grave -- chasing me to my grave. well, generally new books are published every tuesday, and here are some that came up this week: entitled our unfinished march. you'll see him soon on book tv as well as trump administration defense secretary mark esper who has a memoir out a sacred oath. also longtime presidential adviser david gergen looks at what he thinks makes a great leader in hearts on fire. and tarika lee takes an alternative look at a long time british icon in winston churchill. his times his crimes. now another news two book festivals have returned as in person events this month. the gaithersburg maryland book festival takes place in the town square on may 21st and the san antonio fair happens at the central library that same day. also want to note that the senate chaplain admiral barry black has a new book coming out. it's for children, an

was adamant about not allowing any russian missiles in cuba so close to our border. does not putin have a valid concern about nato missiles and troops eventually being placed in ukraine near his border? and perhaps with another nation bordering russia. this from jonathan simon. i think you have your work cut out for you. >> i wasn't quite sure i heard a question in person, gorbachev and the kgb. what was the -- >> i think it may been more of a comet. just take the other two. >> mary, you have to unmute. >> as an engine in my opening remarks and i described in more detail in the book, "not one inch" yeah, , there are a host f conversations where the words nato will move not when inch eastward or other similar phrases. certainly it's not wrong to say that it came up. one way to think about it is a a spectrum. this debate about nato enlargement, for too long it's been binary and i'm trying to move beyond the binder. what do i mean by that? on the one hand, you have let's say the extreme russian position which is we were absolutely betrayed, it's crystal clear come you c

he needs it for for cuba. he needs it for laos. he needs it for vietnam or as lyndon johnson would say vietnam. he needs it for vietnam and you know one time when kennedy comes into officers 600 americans in south vietnam and when he's assassinated there were 16,000 americans and so so i do not buy this notion that okay. he's gonna get us out of vietnam funny trend line you have there from 600 to 16,000 that that's not a trend line of getting out. so kennedy doesn't trust the cia. he feels betrayed by them yet. he still needs to use them on many occasions and that's why i consider him the first failure in our group of six is he doesn't do anything to bring the cia to heal ronald reagan, of course runs on a three-way pledge one to defeat soviet union two to build back the american economy in three to reduce the power and size the government. unfortunately for reagan, he needs the government. he needs the military. he needs big business in order to accomplish the other two and so almost like kennedy he finds that he needs the agencie