want to bring in state attorney for palm beach county, dave aronberg. you've been looking into this. this is just a mess. first of all, it appears to be a danger, to have these people lining up. >> yeah. very true, mika. you know, the governor was criticized during spring break for keeping the beaches open. he was likened to the mayor in the movie "jaws" for refusing to close the beaches. this is the latest florida debacle. you have an unemployment system that is the worst in the country, that has the most meager benefits, that continually crashes when people try to apply. people wake up in the middle of the night to apply, and it'll still crash. what's why you have lines of people. they're told to snail mail things in to tallahassee, in the year 2020 in a pandemic. the governor is saying that the real problem is the legislature created the system, and the previous governor did, as as well, but make no mistake, this system was designed to fail. it was designed to lower the number of benefits and lower the number of applicants so florida could brag about

dave campbell, thank you so much. "new york times" caitlin dickerson, thank you for your reporting. >>> ahead, eugene robinson sums up the president's response to the pandemic in two words. quote, he failed. we'll read from gene's column in the "new york times" when he joins us ahead. >>> plus, peter baker's last two headlines in the "new york times" illustrate the whiplash coming from the white house. on monday, trump was claiming authority, absolute authority over the governors. yesterday, he acknowledged the power is theirs. we'll talk about that backtrack next on "morning joe." ♪ more than ever, your home is your sanctuary. that's why lincoln offers you the ability to purchase a new vehicle remotely with participating dealers. an effortless transaction- all without leaving the comfort- and safety of your home. that's the power of sanctuary. and for a little extra help, receive 0% apr financing and defer your first payment up to 120 days on the purchase of a new lincoln. >>> dr. fauci, on the question of a vaccin

dave campbell. dr. dave, tell us about this testing, because everybody wants testing. we understand it is complicated and there's different levels of testing. so is this foolproof in helping us find a way forward? >> antibody testing is part of an overall strategy to get people out of the house, back to work, paback to school. we've talked for months now about the nasal swab viral testing, looking for the virus itself. that's the nucleic acid test. now, we're talking about the antibody testing, which is looking for the proteins made in response to having been infected. and the problem we have in the very short term is a lot of the tests on the market have not been assessed. dr. fauci says validated. validated means assessed for accuracy, assessed to see that the test, when it says there are antibodies, is really correct. or when it says there are not antibodies, it is correct. imagine a pregnancy test where you're not really sure if that test is real or not, and you run home and tell your parents, your spouse that you're pregnant. the tests have to be accurate. the ove

dave campbell, thank you very, very much. willie? >>> we've heard time and again that coronavirus will persist until there is a vaccine. a vaccine that could be a year or 18 months away. for more, let's bring in nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel. richard is in london and spoke to the ceo of one of the four companies in human trials for a coronavirus vaccine, and who volunteer for the trial. these companies are moving very, very quickly to try to find this vaccine, aren't they? >> reporter: they are moving extraordinarily quickly. so as we've all been talking about over the last several weeks, there are three legs to this stool that will get us out of this. there is the testing component we were talking about now, so that we know what we're dealing with. how many people in our society have the coronavirus or have had it. so we can figure out how to manage our social systems. then there is the medical treatment, how to make sure that the symptoms aren't as severe. hopefully not as many people end up in the hospitals. a

dave campbell. dr. dave, of course we've been talking about grim milestones, the u.s. passing 1 million cases. 58,000 americans dying. it also looks like projection models are changing once again. of course, they have to be fluid because we have 320 million people in this country. and depending on how those 320 million people act, what they do, what they do not do, the models are constantly changing. now there seems to be some changes with a slight uptick in. you have donald trump talking about 50 or 60,000 people dying even a week ago. we're now obviously going to easily surpass those numbers, unfortunately, tragically. so what's happening with these models? why are they sort of projecting a little more of an upward arc than we expected two weeks ago? >> well, the models are taking in realtime information which includes this patchwork of states reopening their economies, relaxing some of their contact reductions. so in realtime now we have the scientists throwing that data in and seeing as states relax their restrictions that the number of deaths and therefore the num

dave campbe campbell. dr. dave, yesterday, i started seeing people wearing masks as they were walking around the neighborhoods, riding bikes. some people are following the kk cdc recommendations. the cdc is recommending that people wear at least cloth masks outside. what's the impact of that? what impact will that have? >> joe, that recommendation is made so that the wearer of the mask, like me, when i'm talking or breathing to a person, i will not be transmitting to the person i'm speaking to droplets or vapor or my breath, which we now know can contain live virus. so the reason that the cdc has recommended that people wear face masks, cloth coverings, scarves, is so that the person wearing the mask will not infect the person that they are near. to not do that is placing the person that you are speaking to at risk. because we know that there is a -- there are a period of a few days from when you are inoculated before you develop symptoms when you are contagi s contagious. what's a simple recommendation, joe?

dave campbell. dr. dave, i feel like these are the stories that perhaps give us the guidebook on when we can turn the corner on this. explain this convalescent plasma therapy and could it help the fight against the virus? >> of course. the convalescent plasma therapy is quite simply the use of antibodies that are collected from those that have been sick and recovered and then given to patients who are critically ill or severely ill with covid-19. that's been -- it's been used for years. it was used in sars, in mers, and ebola and even before that. and it is very exciting, but i must temper that excitement with the reality that if it was such a great thing that's been around for a long time, there would not have been 731 deaths in new york yesterday. and, in fact, if it were such a great thing, it would be in wide use already. it's under investigation. the fda came out just a few days ago and made a clear statement for doctors across the country that while it is, let's say, exciting, while it is possible

dave campbell. dave, we're still having a problem with testing. at the briefing, dr. birx said that there's still not enough testing being performed because, in some of the labs, the machines weren't running. what did she mean by that? >> joe, we're not having the testing problem. we're having a testing abomination. it is unbelievably horrible, the lack of testing availability across the country. i'm in palm beach county. you can forget about it if you think you're going to drive-through a drive-by urgent care center or a tent and be tested. it is not going to happen. testing and physical distancing, those two things are connected. because if you are tested, and you know whether or not you have the virus in you, that will help you determine what you are going to do that day. so what i'm hearing about testing isn't registering with me. it is not available. you have to be sick, in a hospital, to be tested. >> how many times, kasie, have we heard the story that you don't get tested -- people that don't get tested, they stay at home. they're not able to get the test until

dave. with heidi's reporting on the lack of leadership there, possibly, kids going back to school, is what the president said correct about how literally no impact on them? because there are some schools that are opening and kids have gone back. what has happened, dr. dave? >> first, mika, we scientists know that kids are not immune to the coronavirus. they catch it, they transmit it, they've even show more recently that some of the youngest children, under 5, have up to 100 times more viral particles in their nasal fair nix than adults. we know that just in florida over 250,000 kids have been swabbed. there have been 42,000 positive cases of children. seven have died in florida. many, many have been hospitalized in florida. i think it's over 400. so that's just down here in florida, imagine spreading that across the country. and we know that the virus has spread across the country. so as schools reopen, we might be able to take the georgia high school that everybody saw just a if you have

dave campbell, thank you very much for being on this morning. shannon and jeremy, thank you both for your reporting as well. still ahead on "morning joe," former director of national intelligence john brennan joins us to discuss the trump administration's decision to no longer give in-person briefings to congress on election security. >>> plus, nancy pelosi suggests democrats will release president trump's tax returns if they win the white house in november. we'll talk about that ongoing fight. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. from prom dresses... ...to soccer practices... ...and new adventures. you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past... they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b. let's help protect them together. because missing menb vaccination could mean missing out on a whole lot more. ask your doctor if your teen is missing meningitis b vaccination. book two separate qualifying stays and

. >>> still ahead, dave wasserman of the cook political report pointed out this fact overnight. when president trump took office in january 2017, there were 241 republicans in the house. since then 115, or 48%, have either retired, resigned, been defeated or are retiring in 2020. >>> now amid a global pandemic we're seeing a growing number of gop lawmakers break with the president over the issue of face masks. we'll talk about what this all means for the virus and the 2020 election. we're back in one minute. ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo-hoo! great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health. camera worldwide is a statement understood very well by north korea. >> this president is the most important world when it comes to the threats we face. >> on planet earth, okay. >>> good morning and welcome to "morning joe." >> what's that about? have they been -- >> it's a lot. it's about him. it's wednesday, july 1st. >> like lost in space, willie? warning, war

dave? >> mika, there is plenty of good news but it's put in spperspectv with the realistic problems we're facing now with the surging numbers of cases of florida, the icus are filling up if not full in many jurisdictions and localities down here, especially miami. it's important to also look at the bright, hopeful optimistic side of this we've had six months to learn. we know that vaccines are not right around the corn er, mika they're coming sooner with more certainty than we had fought before so with the clinical trials moving along quite nicely with countries across the world working hard to developing vaccines, many different companies, many different countries, that's optimistic it is encouraging that we have learned as a country, finally, despite what we just heard president trump say, that face masks are valuable, the admiral just last week said that face masks are one of the three thing that is can keep our economy open if 90% of people will wear face masks outdoor we know that to b

joining us now, state attorney for palm beach county dave aaron bern. >> obviously you're well aware of this case. a lot of epstein's activities occurred in palm beach before you were the state attorney, but what can you tell us about ms. maxwell, what you know of this case and what we can expect? >> joe, a lot of us were wondering what took so long because she was jeffrey epstein's chief enabler. she also was a participant. without her, this whole criminal pyramid scheme of sexual abuse could not have happened because if jeffrey epstein himself sought to recruit and groom these 14-year-old girls, they would have told this creepy old guy to get lost but instead they had this charming, sophisticated british woman with a great accent to make these girls feel at home, to make them feel comfortable. that was the key to this criminal enterprise which is why she needed to be prosecuted. there's questions of why it took so long. to defend the prosecutors, she made herself hard to find. she bought a 156 acre parcel in new hampshire and hid out. she tried to put some misdirection out there by

joining us now is maya wiley and attorney dave aaronberg. the defense used by two police officers is they were rookies and just following orders. how will that play out in court? >> well, let's first start with the court of public opinion, which is there are no orders that say you can murder a man that you have in handcuffs laying prone on the street who has done nothing to endanger your life. so the call for this is going to be very sharp from the public standpoint. from the legal standpoint, the primary issue is are there facts to show they were really supporting what was happening. by supporting, there's specific kinds of evidence, like the fact that two of them were helping to -- literally to hold mr. floyd down. they were not just standing around wondering what to do, they were participating physically. and the second is the length of time and the fact that one of the officers goes and checks for a pulse, says he doesn't feel one, and officer chauvin's knee remains on george floyd's neck for two more minutes after no pulse, and not one

dave, thanks. we will be coming back to this for sure. >>> coming up, we will talk to the number two democrat in the senate, dick durbin, about the measures being considered to ease the financial burden for americans amid the coronavirus outbreak. plus we will talk to the governor of ohio as he prepares to announce new measures to keep the virus from spreading in his state. back in one minute. so it looks like this. and you feel like this. aveeno® daily moisturizer get skin healthy™ >>> we're finding very little problem, very little problem. now, you treat this like a flu. >> this is the most aggressive and comprehensive effort to confront a foreign virus in modern history. >> it is going to disappear one day. it is like a miracle, it will disappear. >> we will be suspending all travel from europe to the united states for the next 30 days. >> we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work. some of them go to work. >>

dave campbell and dr. bhadelia, thank you, both. we'll be hearing from you both soon. >> greatly appreciate you being here. so, ed, what do you expect over the course of the next few days, not only here but across europe and the world? >> so i think we are going to start to see more and more pressure for something we haven't really been hearing much talk of. which is global action. coordinated action through the g-20, through the united nations security counsel. the world must hang together, otherwise, it this assuredly hang separately. this is going to be a very difficult bullet for president trump to bite. i don't know whether he will bite it. but as we've seen, this virus is indiscriminate, affects the south, north, east, west. the need for cross-border cooperation, for sharing science, sharing research on vaccines, for sharing resources, respirators, ventilators, the components, active ingredients of important drugs, is going to become, i think, a very compelling need on all our parts. it is a little disturbing to see president

dave campbell and dr. vanessa kerry, thank you both. >>> coming up, a sea change for republicans, who once opposed bailouts. we have president trump's $1 trillion gamble for re-election. >>> plus, will the city that never sleeps be told to shelter in place? dpo governor cuomo weighs in on that. >>> first, chuck schumer, who says the u.s. will almost certainly see a recession due to the pandemic. that's next on "morning joe." - [spokeswoman] meet the ninja foodi pressure cooker, the best of pressure cooking and air frying now in one pot, and with tendercrisp technology, you can cook foods that are crispy on the outside and juicy on the inside. the ninja foodi pressure cooker, the pressure cooker that crisps. the business of road trips... ...adventure... ...and reconnecting. modernized comfort inn's and suites have been refreshed because our business is you. get the lowest price guaranteed on all choice hotels when you book direct at choicehotels.com. (past them because she didn't sknow they were talking to

dave, and why that's so important. right now we're saying we had 160,000 or so cases that we can actually identify because those people have been tested or have gone to hospitals. if you take what most health care professionals say, you got to multiply that by at least ten to figure out what the real number is because of our lack of testing. that's over a million. by the end of this, dr. fauci and others are saying we could have over a million people infected by this easily. that means you could have 10, maybe 20, 30 million people that had the coronavirus, 80% of them really weren't impacted by it significantly and went through them, some of them without really knowing they had it, that means a significant part of a population will have had the coronavirus and will go through this time period with antibodies that would allow them to go back into the economy, go back to work, go back to restaurants, go back to their lives. that could be a huge boost, not only for their mental well being but economic well being and the

dave said yesterday, there is a test coming online now that is almost 100% a accurate. that's fantastic, moving forward. we're going to talk to scott dlo gottlieb about all of this coming up. alex, i'm sorry, who did you want me to go -- richard haass. richard haass is here. richard, why don't we end up where we began, with you talking about "the world." what hot spots do we have? you talked about north korea still moving forward with their missile testing program and their nuclear program as quickly as possible. hasn't been stopped. donald trump, of course, wrong there, too, saying we didn't have to worry about north korea's program anymore. we do. what other hot spots across the globe are we taking our eyes off of right now because of the coronavirus? >> let me just suggest a few things that people are missing that are really interesting. one is afghanistan. any pretense of a peace process there has been stripped away. we're still talking about getting out, but essentially, the government there has given up on the taliban. they've resumed offensive operations in the w

dave campbell. dr. dave, this weekend, dr. deborah birx reminded americans of the importance to continue to social distance, not let their guard down, and she talked about the effectiveness of wearing masks. she's now wearing one publicly. we can't say it enough, though it is worth repeating. there are a large number of people who won't wear masks at this point, including the president. >> you know, it's important to realize that she reminded us. she didn't tell us for the first time. it is important to prevent droplets from you going to someone else. it is also important to remember that the cdc has told us that one-third of people who are infected with covid-19, with the coronavirus, don't know it. they're asymptomatic. that pool, it is a large, large pool. in the united states, the people who will, over the next few weeks, be infected, not know it, and able to transmit it to other people. it's never been more important to wear face masks, especially when you're inside, where the air just kind of sits. if you're outside, and

and i think what dave's point was, hey, this was a historic crush yesterday. let's see how it plays out over the next week or so. >> massive numbers and people waiting in line for 12 hours. because it was the first day and there was a reflection of the enthusiasm and there's a reason that the trump administration is playing defense in the state oh georgia and not playing in places like michigan and wisconsin. >>> the braves austin riley had a leadoff home run in the top of the ninth inning to put the atlanta braves ahead of the dodgers in game one of the nlcs. riley's home run sparking a four run rally for the braves. atlanta takes the opener, 5-1. >>> in the american league, america's team, the tampa bay rays, manuel margot had a breakout game against the astros. launching a three-run home run to put tampa on top. check this out, in right field, tumbling over that wall in foul territory and holding on. the rays within it 4-2. they have a 2-0 lead in the season. great catch there. the rays doing a public service for the nation, running the cheating astros out.