and i think what dave's point was, hey, this was a historic crush yesterday. let's see how it plays out over the next week or so. >> massive numbers and people waiting in line for 12 hours. because it was the first day and there was a reflection of the enthusiasm and there's a reason that the trump administration is playing defense in the state oh georgia and not playing in places like michigan and wisconsin. >>> the braves austin riley had a leadoff home run in the top of the ninth inning to put the atlanta braves ahead of the dodgers in game one of the nlcs. riley's home run sparking a four run rally for the braves. atlanta takes the opener, 5-1. >>> in the american league, america's team, the tampa bay rays, manuel margot had a breakout game against the astros. launching a three-run home run to put tampa on top. check this out, in right field, tumbling over that wall in foul territory and holding on. the rays within it 4-2. they have a 2-0 lead in the season. great catch there. the rays doing a public service for the nation, running the cheating astros out.

dave campbell, thank you very much for being on this morning. shannon and jeremy, thank you both for your reporting as well. still ahead on "morning joe," former director of national intelligence john brennan joins us to discuss the trump administration's decision to no longer give in-person briefings to congress on election security. >>> plus, nancy pelosi suggests democrats will release president trump's tax returns if they win the white house in november. we'll talk about that ongoing fight. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. from prom dresses... ...to soccer practices... ...and new adventures. you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past... they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b. let's help protect them together. because missing menb vaccination could mean missing out on a whole lot more. ask your doctor if your teen is missing meningitis b vaccination. book two separate qualifying stays and

dave. with heidi's reporting on the lack of leadership there, possibly, kids going back to school, is what the president said correct about how literally no impact on them? because there are some schools that are opening and kids have gone back. what has happened, dr. dave? >> first, mika, we scientists know that kids are not immune to the coronavirus. they catch it, they transmit it, they've even show more recently that some of the youngest children, under 5, have up to 100 times more viral particles in their nasal fair nix than adults. we know that just in florida over 250,000 kids have been swabbed. there have been 42,000 positive cases of children. seven have died in florida. many, many have been hospitalized in florida. i think it's over 400. so that's just down here in florida, imagine spreading that across the country. and we know that the virus has spread across the country. so as schools reopen, we might be able to take the georgia high school that everybody saw just a if you have

dave? >> mika, there is plenty of good news but it's put in spperspectv with the realistic problems we're facing now with the surging numbers of cases of florida, the icus are filling up if not full in many jurisdictions and localities down here, especially miami. it's important to also look at the bright, hopeful optimistic side of this we've had six months to learn. we know that vaccines are not right around the corn er, mika they're coming sooner with more certainty than we had fought before so with the clinical trials moving along quite nicely with countries across the world working hard to developing vaccines, many different companies, many different countries, that's optimistic it is encouraging that we have learned as a country, finally, despite what we just heard president trump say, that face masks are valuable, the admiral just last week said that face masks are one of the three thing that is can keep our economy open if 90% of people will wear face masks outdoor we know that to b

joining us now, state attorney for palm beach county dave aaron bern. >> obviously you're well aware of this case. a lot of epstein's activities occurred in palm beach before you were the state attorney, but what can you tell us about ms. maxwell, what you know of this case and what we can expect? >> joe, a lot of us were wondering what took so long because she was jeffrey epstein's chief enabler. she also was a participant. without her, this whole criminal pyramid scheme of sexual abuse could not have happened because if jeffrey epstein himself sought to recruit and groom these 14-year-old girls, they would have told this creepy old guy to get lost but instead they had this charming, sophisticated british woman with a great accent to make these girls feel at home, to make them feel comfortable. that was the key to this criminal enterprise which is why she needed to be prosecuted. there's questions of why it took so long. to defend the prosecutors, she made herself hard to find. she bought a 156 acre parcel in new hampshire and hid out. she tried to put some misdirection out there by

. >>> still ahead, dave wasserman of the cook political report pointed out this fact overnight. when president trump took office in january 2017, there were 241 republicans in the house. since then 115, or 48%, have either retired, resigned, been defeated or are retiring in 2020. >>> now amid a global pandemic we're seeing a growing number of gop lawmakers break with the president over the issue of face masks. we'll talk about what this all means for the virus and the 2020 election. we're back in one minute. ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo-hoo! great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health. camera worldwide is a statement understood very well by north korea. >> this president is the most important world when it comes to the threats we face. >> on planet earth, okay. >>> good morning and welcome to "morning joe." >> what's that about? have they been -- >> it's a lot. it's about him. it's wednesday, july 1st. >> like lost in space, willie? warning, war

joining us now is maya wiley and attorney dave aaronberg. the defense used by two police officers is they were rookies and just following orders. how will that play out in court? >> well, let's first start with the court of public opinion, which is there are no orders that say you can murder a man that you have in handcuffs laying prone on the street who has done nothing to endanger your life. so the call for this is going to be very sharp from the public standpoint. from the legal standpoint, the primary issue is are there facts to show they were really supporting what was happening. by supporting, there's specific kinds of evidence, like the fact that two of them were helping to -- literally to hold mr. floyd down. they were not just standing around wondering what to do, they were participating physically. and the second is the length of time and the fact that one of the officers goes and checks for a pulse, says he doesn't feel one, and officer chauvin's knee remains on george floyd's neck for two more minutes after no pulse, and not one

dave campbell. dr. dave, this weekend, dr. deborah birx reminded americans of the importance to continue to social distance, not let their guard down, and she talked about the effectiveness of wearing masks. she's now wearing one publicly. we can't say it enough, though it is worth repeating. there are a large number of people who won't wear masks at this point, including the president. >> you know, it's important to realize that she reminded us. she didn't tell us for the first time. it is important to prevent droplets from you going to someone else. it is also important to remember that the cdc has told us that one-third of people who are infected with covid-19, with the coronavirus, don't know it. they're asymptomatic. that pool, it is a large, large pool. in the united states, the people who will, over the next few weeks, be infected, not know it, and able to transmit it to other people. it's never been more important to wear face masks, especially when you're inside, where the air just kind of sits. if you're outside, and

dave said yesterday, there is a test coming online now that is almost 100% a accurate. that's fantastic, moving forward. we're going to talk to scott dlo gottlieb about all of this coming up. alex, i'm sorry, who did you want me to go -- richard haass. richard haass is here. richard, why don't we end up where we began, with you talking about "the world." what hot spots do we have? you talked about north korea still moving forward with their missile testing program and their nuclear program as quickly as possible. hasn't been stopped. donald trump, of course, wrong there, too, saying we didn't have to worry about north korea's program anymore. we do. what other hot spots across the globe are we taking our eyes off of right now because of the coronavirus? >> let me just suggest a few things that people are missing that are really interesting. one is afghanistan. any pretense of a peace process there has been stripped away. we're still talking about getting out, but essentially, the government there has given up on the taliban. they've resumed offensive operations in the w

dave campbell. dr. dave, of course we've been talking about grim milestones, the u.s. passing 1 million cases. 58,000 americans dying. it also looks like projection models are changing once again. of course, they have to be fluid because we have 320 million people in this country. and depending on how those 320 million people act, what they do, what they do not do, the models are constantly changing. now there seems to be some changes with a slight uptick in. you have donald trump talking about 50 or 60,000 people dying even a week ago. we're now obviously going to easily surpass those numbers, unfortunately, tragically. so what's happening with these models? why are they sort of projecting a little more of an upward arc than we expected two weeks ago? >> well, the models are taking in realtime information which includes this patchwork of states reopening their economies, relaxing some of their contact reductions. so in realtime now we have the scientists throwing that data in and seeing as states relax their restrictions that the number of deaths and therefore the num

dave campbell, thank you very, very much. willie? >>> we've heard time and again that coronavirus will persist until there is a vaccine. a vaccine that could be a year or 18 months away. for more, let's bring in nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel. richard is in london and spoke to the ceo of one of the four companies in human trials for a coronavirus vaccine, and who volunteer for the trial. these companies are moving very, very quickly to try to find this vaccine, aren't they? >> reporter: they are moving extraordinarily quickly. so as we've all been talking about over the last several weeks, there are three legs to this stool that will get us out of this. there is the testing component we were talking about now, so that we know what we're dealing with. how many people in our society have the coronavirus or have had it. so we can figure out how to manage our social systems. then there is the medical treatment, how to make sure that the symptoms aren't as severe. hopefully not as many people end up in the hospitals. a

dave campbell. dr. dave, tell us about this testing, because everybody wants testing. we understand it is complicated and there's different levels of testing. so is this foolproof in helping us find a way forward? >> antibody testing is part of an overall strategy to get people out of the house, back to work, paback to school. we've talked for months now about the nasal swab viral testing, looking for the virus itself. that's the nucleic acid test. now, we're talking about the antibody testing, which is looking for the proteins made in response to having been infected. and the problem we have in the very short term is a lot of the tests on the market have not been assessed. dr. fauci says validated. validated means assessed for accuracy, assessed to see that the test, when it says there are antibodies, is really correct. or when it says there are not antibodies, it is correct. imagine a pregnancy test where you're not really sure if that test is real or not, and you run home and tell your parents, your spouse that you're pregnant. the tests have to be accurate. the ove

dave campbell, thank you so much. "new york times" caitlin dickerson, thank you for your reporting. >>> ahead, eugene robinson sums up the president's response to the pandemic in two words. quote, he failed. we'll read from gene's column in the "new york times" when he joins us ahead. >>> plus, peter baker's last two headlines in the "new york times" illustrate the whiplash coming from the white house. on monday, trump was claiming authority, absolute authority over the governors. yesterday, he acknowledged the power is theirs. we'll talk about that backtrack next on "morning joe." ♪ more than ever, your home is your sanctuary. that's why lincoln offers you the ability to purchase a new vehicle remotely with participating dealers. an effortless transaction- all without leaving the comfort- and safety of your home. that's the power of sanctuary. and for a little extra help, receive 0% apr financing and defer your first payment up to 120 days on the purchase of a new lincoln. >>> dr. fauci, on the question of a vaccin

want to bring in state attorney for palm beach county, dave aronberg. you've been looking into this. this is just a mess. first of all, it appears to be a danger, to have these people lining up. >> yeah. very true, mika. you know, the governor was criticized during spring break for keeping the beaches open. he was likened to the mayor in the movie "jaws" for refusing to close the beaches. this is the latest florida debacle. you have an unemployment system that is the worst in the country, that has the most meager benefits, that continually crashes when people try to apply. people wake up in the middle of the night to apply, and it'll still crash. what's why you have lines of people. they're told to snail mail things in to tallahassee, in the year 2020 in a pandemic. the governor is saying that the real problem is the legislature created the system, and the previous governor did, as as well, but make no mistake, this system was designed to fail. it was designed to lower the number of benefits and lower the number of applicants so florida could brag about

dave campbell. dave, we're still having a problem with testing. at the briefing, dr. birx said that there's still not enough testing being performed because, in some of the labs, the machines weren't running. what did she mean by that? >> joe, we're not having the testing problem. we're having a testing abomination. it is unbelievably horrible, the lack of testing availability across the country. i'm in palm beach county. you can forget about it if you think you're going to drive-through a drive-by urgent care center or a tent and be tested. it is not going to happen. testing and physical distancing, those two things are connected. because if you are tested, and you know whether or not you have the virus in you, that will help you determine what you are going to do that day. so what i'm hearing about testing isn't registering with me. it is not available. you have to be sick, in a hospital, to be tested. >> how many times, kasie, have we heard the story that you don't get tested -- people that don't get tested, they stay at home. they're not able to get the test until

dave campbell. dr. dave, i feel like these are the stories that perhaps give us the guidebook on when we can turn the corner on this. explain this convalescent plasma therapy and could it help the fight against the virus? >> of course. the convalescent plasma therapy is quite simply the use of antibodies that are collected from those that have been sick and recovered and then given to patients who are critically ill or severely ill with covid-19. that's been -- it's been used for years. it was used in sars, in mers, and ebola and even before that. and it is very exciting, but i must temper that excitement with the reality that if it was such a great thing that's been around for a long time, there would not have been 731 deaths in new york yesterday. and, in fact, if it were such a great thing, it would be in wide use already. it's under investigation. the fda came out just a few days ago and made a clear statement for doctors across the country that while it is, let's say, exciting, while it is possible

dave campbe campbell. dr. dave, yesterday, i started seeing people wearing masks as they were walking around the neighborhoods, riding bikes. some people are following the kk cdc recommendations. the cdc is recommending that people wear at least cloth masks outside. what's the impact of that? what impact will that have? >> joe, that recommendation is made so that the wearer of the mask, like me, when i'm talking or breathing to a person, i will not be transmitting to the person i'm speaking to droplets or vapor or my breath, which we now know can contain live virus. so the reason that the cdc has recommended that people wear face masks, cloth coverings, scarves, is so that the person wearing the mask will not infect the person that they are near. to not do that is placing the person that you are speaking to at risk. because we know that there is a -- there are a period of a few days from when you are inoculated before you develop symptoms when you are contagi s contagious. what's a simple recommendation, joe?

dave, and why that's so important. right now we're saying we had 160,000 or so cases that we can actually identify because those people have been tested or have gone to hospitals. if you take what most health care professionals say, you got to multiply that by at least ten to figure out what the real number is because of our lack of testing. that's over a million. by the end of this, dr. fauci and others are saying we could have over a million people infected by this easily. that means you could have 10, maybe 20, 30 million people that had the coronavirus, 80% of them really weren't impacted by it significantly and went through them, some of them without really knowing they had it, that means a significant part of a population will have had the coronavirus and will go through this time period with antibodies that would allow them to go back into the economy, go back to work, go back to restaurants, go back to their lives. that could be a huge boost, not only for their mental well being but economic well being and the

dave campbell and dr. vanessa kerry, thank you both. >>> coming up, a sea change for republicans, who once opposed bailouts. we have president trump's $1 trillion gamble for re-election. >>> plus, will the city that never sleeps be told to shelter in place? dpo governor cuomo weighs in on that. >>> first, chuck schumer, who says the u.s. will almost certainly see a recession due to the pandemic. that's next on "morning joe." - [spokeswoman] meet the ninja foodi pressure cooker, the best of pressure cooking and air frying now in one pot, and with tendercrisp technology, you can cook foods that are crispy on the outside and juicy on the inside. the ninja foodi pressure cooker, the pressure cooker that crisps. the business of road trips... ...adventure... ...and reconnecting. modernized comfort inn's and suites have been refreshed because our business is you. get the lowest price guaranteed on all choice hotels when you book direct at choicehotels.com. (past them because she didn't sknow they were talking to

dave campbell and dr. bhadelia, thank you, both. we'll be hearing from you both soon. >> greatly appreciate you being here. so, ed, what do you expect over the course of the next few days, not only here but across europe and the world? >> so i think we are going to start to see more and more pressure for something we haven't really been hearing much talk of. which is global action. coordinated action through the g-20, through the united nations security counsel. the world must hang together, otherwise, it this assuredly hang separately. this is going to be a very difficult bullet for president trump to bite. i don't know whether he will bite it. but as we've seen, this virus is indiscriminate, affects the south, north, east, west. the need for cross-border cooperation, for sharing science, sharing research on vaccines, for sharing resources, respirators, ventilators, the components, active ingredients of important drugs, is going to become, i think, a very compelling need on all our parts. it is a little disturbing to see president

dave, thanks. we will be coming back to this for sure. >>> coming up, we will talk to the number two democrat in the senate, dick durbin, about the measures being considered to ease the financial burden for americans amid the coronavirus outbreak. plus we will talk to the governor of ohio as he prepares to announce new measures to keep the virus from spreading in his state. back in one minute. so it looks like this. and you feel like this. aveeno® daily moisturizer get skin healthy™ >>> we're finding very little problem, very little problem. now, you treat this like a flu. >> this is the most aggressive and comprehensive effort to confront a foreign virus in modern history. >> it is going to disappear one day. it is like a miracle, it will disappear. >> we will be suspending all travel from europe to the united states for the next 30 days. >> we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work. some of them go to work. >>

dave, bottom line, did the president commit any crimes pressuring the ukrainians to dig up dirt on joe biden? >> well, we will know more when the facts come out but it is possible because under the federal bribery and extortion laws you just need a public official who demands something of value to benefit himself to which he is not entitled in exchange for the performance of an official act. there could be a violation of the foreign corrupt practices act and campaign finance crimes. if you are asking whether crimes occurred here, i think that should be the last question because under the constitution you don't need the violation of a criminal statute to warrant impeachment. it could just be an abuse of power, as there was under richard nixon which led to his resignation. so when you are talking about abuse of power, you don't need to wait for a lengthy criminal investigation by a special prosecutor like robert mueller, you don't need to worry about the internal policy within the department of justice not to indict a sitting president, you just need an abuse of power and his personal at

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dave, you cover the mar-a-lago in your area. what have you heard? what has your office heard about this and what's the possibility this is just some random fluke? >> well, the feds have right to take this seriously because this is a woman who traveled more than 20 hours from shanghai, showed up at the gates of mar-a-lago and then lied repeatedly about her intentions and then was found with malware. you have access determined by private club management who made a mistake in allowing her in. they are too easy in allowing members and guests and people who claim to be guests of members in, as in this case. >> do we know where this woman is this morning? is she still in the jurisdiction? is she being held? is she free? is she bonded? what's the story? >> she is being held. she has another court appearance on monday. other than that, we don't know anything. her actual location was still not recorded yesterday when i checked, although that might change today. i think we'll find out more about her and her circumstances on monday. >> dave, aronberg, can you

dave campbell joining us. 15 states? what's going on? >> the cdc reports and i believe that the virus has come into this country again perhaps this time from international travelers to the country of israel and also to ukraine, but it's particularly affecting small tight knit communities where there are pools of people who are not vaccinated, in particular, children and the concern of course is that this lack of vaccination, this vaccination he tsitant si is causing problems, perhaps more importantly for public health, they may be causing harm to others in their community, their friends, their families, their schools. thus the ban that we see. i called a friend of ours and talked to her and she said this is a big deal where there are pools of small groups of anti vaccine groups that are advocating against having vaccines. >> so now, we're looking at 15 state. we're looking at bans. we're looking at the law getting involved. am i missing something? wasn't this eradicated? >> i started practice in 1991. in 2000 measles was reported done in

. >> dave: this morning flsh he will speak here on "morning joe" and say what he needs to say. but here's that moment with congressman matt gates. >>tr 2/would not have stopped many of the yourselves would. >> mr. chairman. >> don't go. >> there will be. >> the time of the members, those people will be asked to depart the committee. >> so, catty, what -- >> we're going to have that father that you heard trying to speak on the show this morning. >> who was being pointed at. up that's just a sfwrrks he gives the example of crime and the fact is you can immediately put up statistics from donald trump's own government that show native-born americans commit violent crimes at a higher rate and are inrars kated at a higher rate than illegal immigrants. he talks about drugs. almost 90% come through legal ports of entry. we could go down the list of every argument that he's making from the al. it's all i can't be undermined by statistics from. >> migration, illegal immigration is clearly a huge issue right around the world at the in order to consolidate their own positions in power. tha

and as dave wasserman notes, republicans are on track to lose nearly half of the 23 women in the house. there could be just 13 in the next congress. republicans currently are ahead in only ten of california's 53 congressional districts. and falling further behind in the still undecided races like 15 term republican dana rohrbacker, 20 points behind his challenger. and for walters in california's 45th district, down to just one point with a difference of about 2,000 votes. the cook political reports amy walter tweeted, rs had a huge structure -- republicans had a huge structural advantage going into 2018. the fact that dems may net 40 seats as a route. this argument that it's not as bad as obama's 63 seat loss in 2010 is laughable. joe, i'll let you take it to donnie. it is laughable at this point. they're saying something that's completely untrue. and laughable. >> what a surprise. >> you're saying something that is completely untrue. you actually have donald trump demanding a revote, not a recount but a revote in arizona. he knows that across the street are going to win arizona. just

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. >> dave, what are you looking for today? >> well, i'm looking for more of the same. i hate to say it but i think the mixed messages, bombastic, then tone it down from tillerson back and forth up and down, that's sort of the way they want to play it. they think that disrupts people, makes them uncertain and invest their benefit. >> all right, david, susan, elise, mark, mike, you to some extent, thank you very much for being here. >> thank you, willy. >> that does it for us, chris jan sing picks up the coverage. >> i am in for stephanie rule this morning. president trump's unprecedented language on north korea's nuclear threat. >> they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. >> now, new threats against u.s. interests. >> they are blowing through this president's red line like tissue paper. what is trump going to do now? >> and from both sides of the aisle, concern that trump isn't up to the task. >> the great leaders that i've seen, they don't threaten unless they are ready to act. and i'm not sure that president trump is ready to act.

. >> dave urban all have reservations about coming in for personal reasons, financial reasons, whatever entanglements they have. >> they don't want to hire lawyers the second they walk through the door? >> a lot of people are worried about that, do i need to get a lawyer now? >> yes, they do. >> think about lewandowski. you have to understand if you go in, you'll have to hire legal counsel. >> going in is always a sacrifice, as jeremy knows. going in now adds three more sacrifices. chaos in there. it's an unstable work situation. two, you're stepping into legal peril, potentially, might have legal bills and, three, the warring factions. you're asked basically to sign up to be on a team when you go in there now and there are lots of teams to sign up for. that is a confusing and dangerous place to be. >> i can't imagine anybody in their right mind who would want to step into that. >> it is a good point that you make, bob, that we had the president bannon era and then president bannon was moved to the side. >> president steven miller. >> we never called miller president. we called him tiny

what was the turning point for dave? >> it might be climate. he and i both believe climate change is an existential threat. i told him last night, look, i have three grandchildren. i don't want them in 50 years saying grandpa, you knew climate change was happening. you were a united states senator. why didn't you do anything? also i'll still be alive because i'll be 110 then. >> i know. what's with grandpa? when is he going to leave. >> the new book. >> when is grandpa just going to die? that's what they are doing to say. >> they won't be saying that. they will be, gosh, we love grandpa. thank you for investments in nih, national institute of health. >> that's what they will be saying. >> they are here. >> they are so cute. >> those are the grandchildren. >> oh, my goodness. oh, my gosh, hi, adrian, very cute. >> cutie. >> very happy. >> that's jacob and his brother charl charlie. >> that's, joe, my oldest with avery. he's torturing avery there. >> they do. okay, will. >> the news is so heavy and relentless and feels heavy to so pane people bec

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away from the past week and i would say for most of the foreign policy establishment, it has been what dave ignation at the end. it is about the fact that he now is actually focusing on china in a constructive way ahead of very good meeting so he seems to be tilting a bit towards china and a bit more against russia. >> well, the important thing is pillar is a foreign policy that david mentioned in the column. engaging with china and care with russia and follow that path and get more on base on what have been the alliances that propelled our strengths and projection of power around the world. it is extremely important if you can keep it up. our allies were worried up until now. they were constantly, you know, setting up flares and alliances and u.s. military force. this is all reassuring. it is fascinating to me where you saw the obama alumni and president obama was lit on it for a time >> i was surprised by just how ready they all were to jump in the obam administration which suggests that i am sure -- i am sure people like samantha powell -- >> but, john kerry, i did not hear too much from

what i'd like to ask my colleagues starting with tom is the question famously that dave petraeus asked as the iraq invasion started, tell me how this ends. >> the best case scenario, david, what's been -- we want to negotiate a solution that moves assad out but does not collapse the syrian government. that's the key thing. we don't want to produce another iraq where the syrian system collapses and then you truly have chaos. what has been missing in our diplomacy, and you and i have talked about this, david, weave had no leverage. we really had no leverage on the russians or the iranians, i think this begins to introduce some leverage into the equation. it may be that putin says, if the reports are true, that assad did this without consulting the russians. this is a huge embarrassment for the russians and the iranians. notice they're ducking. they don't want to be the protectors of a poison gas user. it may create an opening where we can have a dialogue with putin, how do we ease this guy out and together we can fight isis. the weakness of trump's strategy, when he came in, he said i'm

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senator, we have dave ignatius and katty kay standing by. but first mike barnicle has a question for you. mike. >> last weekend i was in berlin, with a group of people from the india, saudi arabia, turkey, kuwait, and they were all universally concerned about the erratic nature of this presidency in dealing with specifically allies around the world, wondering where it was all going and seemingly indicating this was weakening our picture in the world. do you pick up on that, hear anything about that from our allies? >> as a member of foreign relations committee i have members come in every week. i've traveled since the inauguration to speak to leaders in europe. the world is freaked out right now because they see american leadership vanishing before their eyes. it's not just the erratic nature of the trump administration. one day you have nikki haley coming out and talking about russia being ukraine. two days later the president of the united states cast doubt whether russians ever invade ukrain one day we're against one china policy, another

dave campbell. we want to start with opioids. chris christie is finally here, his big focus. marco rubio talking about it in the state of florida. it's been a real problem in new england. in new hampshire, that's what everybody was talking about. are we making progress on this battle? what's going on? >> it's a terribly big problem. it's ahronic disease. it's a disease of addiction. it's been spiked by the up tick and the availability of the synthetic version of the potent opioid. if you look at the cost of heroin per kilogram, $35,000. >> right. >> a kilogram of this is like $3,000 and would kill an entire city. most of the drugs available now are laced with this because it makes the drug go further for the drug distributor. kids are dying. it's cheap and very, very potent. 50 times more potent. >> what is the answer to the problem? we hear donald trump talking about a crackdown on the border and all the stuff they are going to do, a war on drugs that's been fought 30 years. what do you do about this, mostly a prescription drug epidemic? >> it's a prescription and synthetic,

so what will be sad is when he discovers that these are voters, but anyhow, congressman dave bratt who had heavy tea party support met a contentious crowd in virginia. >> reporter: it was an explosive town hall where the republican took audience questions. >> i was impressed with the way dave handled himself with the -- the ignorance of people out here in the crowd. i thought he did a great job on what he was saying. i think he answered the questions well. >> i tried to explain, right, the two-year transition path and those kind of things so we can work on getting the anxiety level so we can have more sieve discourse. you just hear the anxiety is real and people want real solutions and so we are going to have to pay attention to that. >> anxiety is real. and peopl want real solutions. >> absolutely. virginia beach, freshman republican congressman scott taylor faced a second night of questions from hundreds who showed up early. >> roughly 800 packed into this high school auditorium that held thousand. some waited three hours outside to get that seat at the table. >> people are scared. >

that became dave petraeus' way. he was key to helping him think through. i saw him in afghanistan. he had the insight. the problem in afghanistan is it wauz corrupt, broken society. unless you fix the corruption, you can't fix the place. it's a terrific choice. when john mccain, your biggest critic says you made an outstanding choice, president trump, that's a good sign. too little experience in national security policy. he's a smart man and he'll learn. >> the harshest critics of trump were some of those praising him the most yesterday for this selection. what's so interesting is, you have a cabinet with generals that actually are acting as a moderating influence on a commander in chief because they have been in the middle of the most ha lashs battles. there's nothing glorious about power. it has limits that soft power, as we found out, it does more than hard power a lot of times. that's really important. when you start looking around the general, around donald trump, i love what somebody said about general mattis. he thought he was getting pat ton, he ended up with george marshal

you do need as dave ignatius said, you need a strong chief of staff and donald trump has to trust reince priebus to be that strong chief of staff in a leon panetta form, or he needs to find somebody that he does. >> is there a problem with that. here is the problem that reince faces or anybody else put in that position or given that position. i do not seen -- and i've seen it on the inside -- i do not see any evidence ever or any possibility of this president becoming someone who will listen. i have never seen him listen. i have never seen him listen. i've seen him talk. i have not seen him completely listen. you talk and you get in there. people talk to him. they all want a little bit of attention. they are all nervous. they are all kind of kept in a position where they feel like at any moment everything could be thrown away and they would be thrown out the door, so everyone is nervous. he talks and then he asks a question, and maybe you'll get ten second in there to start a thought. and then there's talking about something else. there is no listening. that's something that fundamentall

dave, on the system itself. regardless of where someone lives in an inner city or a rural area, if they're able to get to a primary care physician, if they're locked into a medical home, if they have an opportunity to get behavioral health, you use a job, there's a depression that sets in. but putting the system in place where people can get the care they need at the time they need it is crucial to stemming the tide. >> what's the future of pcps? >> they're crucial. it's a partnership between the insurer, the family, the patient, and the pcp. having realtime data and pathways that you monitor collectively to make sure you can get people well and stay well. >> final thought, dave. >> i agree 100%. as a doctor, being willing to expand pcps to really mean nurse practitioners, paramedics, health coaches. health coaches to take the older person at home and guide them through the difficult last few years of life so they don't miss their medicines. it's a broad answer to a broad problem, but almost old school making fa

dave campbell, thank you very much. this conversation must continue. >>> still ahead, new information on donald trump's search for a secretary of state. who is still in the running. who's stock may have faded away. plus -- >> this is not exactly the speech at the capitol i hoped to be giving after the election. but after a few weeks of taking selfies in the woods, i thought it would be a good idea to come out, and i'm very grateful to harry for inviting me to be part of this celebration. >> hillary clinton returned to capitol hill. her election loss with a warning about the dangers of fake news. but she says it's, quote, not about politics. "morning joe" is back after this. i'm hall of famer jerry west and my life is basketball. but that doesn't stop my afib from leaving me at a higher risk of stroke. that'd be devastating. i took warfarin for over 15 years until i learned more about once-daily xarelto... a latest generation blood thinner. then i made the switch. xarelto® significantly lowers the risk of stroke in peop

dave campbell is with us along with lewis and michael. dave, you have been all over the world. you have seen bad situations. what is so stunning to me is upon your return from haiti, you said this is the worst conditions you've ever seen human beings live in, and to put in perspective for people watching, the flight from america to those scenes is about the same distance from new york to washington d.c. it's that close. people cut off from relief. cut off from anything. >> they are cut off even within their own country let alone cut off from the international community. bridges were washed away. the ability to get a truck from the capital, which was relatively spared to this big long peninsula of farmland ended. >> you said ships can't come in and bring relief because they would be overrun. why are people starving to ket? why are people not being treated right now? >> this hurricane disaster actually hit the farmland so the bread basket of the country was decimated. they have no seeds to plant for the next several months crop harvest. >> no relief aid getting in. >> it's gettin

. >> and they did have dave -- >> that was the right tone. >> whenever you take yourself seriously -- >> that was the worst thing that ever happened in america. >> that's what they are saying. it's the worst thing ever, and the two african-americans said, really, this is the worst thing ever. >> that was great. >>> we have to go to break. can we have kasie hunt? on the other side, we will be right back. >> i will be singing when we come back. ♪ ♪ when you find something worth waiting for, we'll help you invest to protect it for the future. financial guidance while you're mastering life. from chase, so you can. >>> what a great to have him back. >> the congressman has announced his -- that was funny. there are some trying to force a delay, concerned the current choices may not be the right people to bring the democrats back into power. also yesterday, a group of protesters calling for new leadership staged a sit-in in senator chuck schumer's capitol hill office. 17 protesters were arrested. >> yeah, mike -- >> joe, stop. >> how many of them voted? >> i am just telling you what schm