think history makes you an optimist. there was a thing in our roosevelt film where george said franklin roosevelt had a sense that history was a rising road. i have to believe that. we can get better. we must get better. we have to do that. the only way you do it is to confront it. you can't run from it, which is what we always do. charlie: thank you for coming. >> thank you. charlie: ken burns, part one and two, on the great jackie robinson coming up on pbs. thank you for joining us. see you next time. ♪ carol: welcome to "bloomberg business week." i am carol.

for political affairs under george w. bush. i'm pleased to have both of them back on this program. nick, you said this was a remarkable day in the foreign policy history of a president. nicolas: it could be, charlie. donald trump is so predictable. rex tillerson went to moscow and said we're at the lowest point with russia in memory. donald trump a back that up. and they really took it to the russians and were extremely critical of what the russians had been doing in syria. rex tillerson brought it back, rightly to ukraine and crimea. tillerson ofto that russian interference in our election was a problem. that is progress. this relationship is at a low point in the russians are trying to undercut the united states. i also thought it was interesting to see, donald trump, who for 18 months has been railing against nato saying it's obsolete and you'll forgive me, i'm a former ambassador to nato, and today donald trump is said nato is no longer obsolete. he said nato used to not be fighting terrorism and now they are. nato wasn't spending enough and now they're on track to spend more.

affairs under george bush. i'm pleased to have both of them back on this program. nick, you said this was a remarkable day in the foreign policy history of a president. nicolas: it could be, charlie. donald trump is so unpredictable but rex tillerson went to moscow and said we're at the lot ehlo -- lowest points we've been with russia in recent memory. they took the to the rush and were extremely critical of what the russians have been doing in syria. and rex tillerson brought it back rightly to crime yafment he said russian interference in our election was a problem. i also thought it have interesting to see donald trump, who for 1 months has been railing against nato saying it's obsolete and you'll forgive me, i'm a former ambassador to nato and today he said nato is no longer obsolete. he said nato used to not be fighting terrorism and now they are. nato wasn't spending enough and now they're on track to spend more. he tried to put a positive gloss on these issues woo where herself been extremely criminal -- critical. and we may be seeing a repositioning of the position. commearl:

as the wilderness years. after he was fired from apple and he created and bought pixar from george lucas, and started next, which never became a big thing. what did he learn? why was that time important in shaping the man that came back to apple? brent: both of those ventures were really important to him. in the case of both of them initially, it was the school of hard knocks. because they couldn't quite get traction. so he learned a lot from skinning his knee. so to speak. but each one was very different. the next computer, he rushed into it and overshot, thinking he could take the formula that worked for him building the macintosh, and create a whole new class of computing called the scholar-workstation and build a huge business out of that. what he didn't take into account was that there were multiple companies already making things like that. they would not have been as beautiful as it is, but they were cheaper and they were just as high performance. he was not operating in a vacuum. steve always did really well in in open field. but he did not do well when he had to block and

be something like a george wallace or strom thurman. there are third parties that break off. , the famoustadter historian, his great line is third parties are like bees, they staying and then they die. -- sting and they die. they don't have impact to win elections, their impact is by pulling the major parties and their direction. jeff: i was talking about one that exists for some time, and i don't know if you see that scenario potentially playing out beyond this election, whether it is trump leading it or someone else. jacob: it is hard to say, but i will go back to the point about the gap he has exposed. i think you have had the republican establishment, republican leadership, whatever you want to call it getting a , lot of people to vote against their own interests, and beliefs working people whose interests , are not aligned with tax cuts to the rich, shrinking entitlements. all these things paul ryan talks about, these people don't support. but they vote republican. somehow, the kind of -- the genius of ronald reagan, was to bring everybody under this big tent and somehow bridg

has worked was when george bush succeeded ronald reagan. mr. garrett: that is historically not what happens in this country. major parties get to terms and then someone else gets a chance. extending a third term is highly unusual. the extension does not often occur. for it to occur, you have to run on the previous eight years. that's why i say, we are here, there is unfinished business, but we are proud and absolutely certain about the last eight years. we are simple going to extend it. you cannot run without embracing the agenda of the eight years past. charlie: people have said to me, karl rove, for example, has said that elections are a referendum on the future, not the past. mr. garrett: that is always true, but to give people a sense of what the future looks like, you have to frame their experience in the past. you cannot have that conversation with this country if you are the in party. the in party has to explain the future by exporting the benefits of the recent past that they were in charge of. that is why you cannot get away from it. charlie: if donald trump has to allay fe

it would be, except not against two he imagined itwho he would be against. charlie: maybe george bush? mr. garrett: george bush or some republican -- establishment republican. what ted cruz always imagined was the need to pick up delegates, to have operations at the state level across the country. he built that, starting more than a year ago. memorized all of these arcane state party rules and apply them well to get delegates and is reaping the benefit of that. charlie: also reaping the benefit of somebody looking for someone to oppose donald trump? mr. garrett: not initially him, but they are getting closer to him. charlie: because john kasich cannot put it together? mr. garrett: they believe that kasich would have ought to have put more together by now. i would not rule him out because he is going to stay. the convention is in ohio. if the polling data shows he is the only republican who can be beat hillary, and trump and cruz say, we need to get rid of this guy, than the scrutiny will come. one of the reasons why he is where he is, is that he is the least scrutinized. if he st

also have dan c r, former advisor to mitt romney, and in the office of george w. bush. and philip bump is a correspondent for "the washington post." do you go about an assessment of this president after 100 days? >> you have to use the old>> nixon yellow pad, the good and the bad. it has been the best of times and the worst of times. neil gorsuch is a 30 year with, a significant win, and a huge free exercise for the court. more will be many decisions where justice gorsuch will be on the side of the originalists. it is impossible to overstate is they got with his -- win it on the other hand, the loss of the obamacare repeal is thestating to the idea republicans could a copy something if they had all three branches of government. they haven't. that's a major drawback. there are also 20 circuit court judges that are vacant for which only one nominee has been put forward. at the downside. on the upside, there are 13 congressional review act statutes which have long-lasting , deep implications for the rollback of the federal administrative state. it's a 50-50 perspective. charlie: glenn? hu

a book that i found by a gardener of the duke named george sinclair in the 1800s, and he was doing different experiments on grasses and how they would compete against each other when he planted them next to one another and darwin cited it in his work is being influential. i found these specimens that were perfectly preserved, beautiful, and in a world where we are living with this digital data that feels temporary or easily disposed of, that this thing remained. i wanted to do something with those dried or buried specimens and speak about these notions of survival. to me it was so much about that. and in this book, those specimens stood alongside his data recordings. from that point, i went off to find things like that picture at the munich conference with hitler. charlie: you said, i was interested in the idea of these men who felt they could control the evolution of the world through their language and assertions and the flimsy paperwork that they are about to sign and nature is this castrated decorative thing that sits between them. taryn: yes. there are sculptures based on plan

love it. guys like stephen king have a short one or a big one. george clooney is who everyone should aspire to be in their career, make a big one, make a black and white one. this was to be black and white. it sort of gets flattened and reduced so people can sort of -- charlie: what is the picture that people have drawn that is not true? john: for me? "womanizer" bothers me. that has always bothered me. if you look into the times where it sort of went dim for me, and my mouth cap going and my brain wasn't there, i didn't -- i have been me my whole life. i have watched me. you do the right thing, give yourself a pat on the back. you get the sense that if you do the right thing, you are going to be known as the person who does the right thing. but there is nothing like the hollywood machine getting your information wrong, and i get a lot of information. i would be better if i had short answers. it is less tnt to wire up. so when they get it wrong because i am putting out so much information, this idea of womanizer comes up. i'm bristling at it. it is a complete distortion of who i am a

relationships. i would suggest that jim baker and george bush would be the best that you could hope for. henry kissinger and richard nixon and gerald ford. his foreign policy conceived at the state department or the white house? john kerry: it is always a combination. i have been watching that relationship for 28 years. the different national security advisers and secretaries. i always knew that one of the first rules is don't get into turf squabbles and don't start fighting. you are there to serve the president. both the national security advisor and the secretary. i serve at the pleasure of the president. it makes sense to be a team. we are a good team. i believe that. between the whole team the , entire team. everybody works together as a team. i believe it is too early for retrospectives. but i will tell you the president has given me enormous latitude. he has trusted me. he has given me enormous scope to go out and try something. and put him at risk too. i have huge respect for the presidents strength with respect to letting someone else go out and do something. he was deeply invol

have been great secretary of state president relationships. wasbaker and george bush the best he could hope for. henry kissinger and richard nixon and gerald ford. his foreign policy conceived at the state department or the white house? john kerry: it is always a combination. i have been watching that relationship for 28 years. i always knew that one of the first rules is don't get into startquabbles and don't fighting. you are there to serve the president. both of us. the national security advisor and the secretary of state. it makes sense to be a team. we are a good team. the entire team. everybody worked together. it is too early for retrospectives. thei will tell you president has given me enormous latitude. he has trusted me. he has given the enormous scope to go out and try something. too.put him at risk theve used respect for president's strength. and letting someone else go out and do something. involved in the details of the iran agreement. he knew exactly what he could tolerate politically and otherwise. he made the final cut on whether we were willing to go with this o

thing in our roosevelt film where george said, flange lynn roosevelt had a sense of history was a rising road and i have to believe that otherwise, you know, we can get better. we must get better. we have to do that. the only way you do it is to confront it. you can't run from it, which is what we always do. charlie: thank you for coming. >> thank you. charlie: ken burns, part one and two, on the great jackie robinson coming up on pbs. thank you for joining us. see you next time. ♪ ♪ mark: let's begin with a check of your first word news. a suspect in the november 13 paris attacks has been arrested in belgium. muhammad abrini is believed to be the man in the hat who escaped the double bombing at the airport. if confirmed, it would mean he played a key role in both attacks carried out by an islamic state cell in paris and brussels. officials are putting then extradition of another suspect on hold. 4e fled to belgium after the paris attacks. officials blame the delay on an ongoing investigation into a dead pli police raid into a brussels neighborhood the day before his arrest. bernie s

optimist.kes you an there was a thing in our roosevelt film where george flange lynn roosevelt had a sense of history was a rising road and i have to believe that you know, we can get better. we must get better. we have to do that. it is to ay you do confront it. you can't run from it, which is what we always do. charlie: thank you for coming. >> thank you. charlie: ken burns, part one and two, on the great jackie robinson coming up on pbs. thank you for joining us. see you next time. . >> with all due respect to pope francis every time you think keep gotten out, they in.ing you back ♪ happy good friday, sports fans. i say good friday because, wow it's been. news day hypothetical situation, you're the president and the pope to the vatican to give you the speech. wwbsd. >> that's kind of

. president george w. bush became president the same time i went to the house. i was elected the same time mike pence was. we both ran conservative think tanks in the 1990's and were elected together. 2001, reelected in 2000 comes so anyway, we came in and the first thing on our table was no child left behind. i thought that is not very conservative. as a conservative, i did not like the federal reach into education. then there was a prescription drug benefit and i thought that was not conservative at all. it added $7 trillion in unfunded liabilities. charlie: the previous administration gave you all the surplus. that was an opportunity. sen. flake: but president bush, i agreed with him on most of the things. i opposed him on his cuba policy. i have been an advocate of lifting the travel ban. charlie: president trump wants to -- sen. flake: that is one area where i agree with obama. you don't have to agree with the president on everything. with president bush, i agreed with most things and he did a fundraiser in arizona because i was with him on most of these things. i think that

terms as governor of new hampshire and chairman of george w. bush's presidential campaign. he was his chief of staff from 1989 to 1991. in a new book he offers an account of the former president's time in office, "the quiet man, the indispensable presidency of george h.w. bush." guest: thanks for having me. charlie: i think the beginning of the book is about george bush. guest: it has been one of the products of the bush -- and now another bush running for president. who would have known? it's interesting to see how similar they all are and how different they all are. each one has their own positive attributes and i think they have all made great contributions to the country. charlie: you think jeb has a chance? john: i think jeb has a chance. i think the country need someone who has been a chief executive in a state to ask the mess he will run into in washington, someone who has handled the legislature, made isolated decisions of a chief executive. charlie: you are describing the kind of man that defeated george h.w. bush. john: and the kind of man frank -- franklin roosevelt was. an

get administration officials to say whether this was strategic -- i remember during george bush's presidency, in the administration they used to talk about, it was good having dick cheney seeming like he had a knife in his teeth because it allowed people in the administration to talk to allies in the middle east and say we do not want to let cheney loose. it was a nice good cop/bad cop. that is a traditional strategy in some places. but when i seek strategic guidance here, mostly what i get back is this is improvisation by the president that has some of them scratching their heads. charlie: especially the use of the language. john: the use of the language and the redline drawing. there is no active foreign policy the president and his aides have criticized more than president obama's improvisational redline drawing when it came to syria and not following up on it was squandering of u.s. prestige. it seems curious the president would draw a redline he was not ready to follow up on, at least he has not in response to the immediate threat from the north koreans to encircle guam and f

just about the relationship tween ben and george, fred and me. it's about love and its various generations and stages. it makes us feel so good that we've made a very real and simple film about older people that you just don't see very often. you certainly don't see a film about an older gay relationship. you don't see many about an older strait relationship. it's about these combinations, the long history of a long relationship. what it is that keeps us cemented together and spite of all your occasions, disagreements, discord. >> i guess you find it is all the same thing regardless of it's a gay or heterosexual relationship, young or old. it's always the same things that both provide inspiration as well as risk. >> fred and i both have long marriages, both over 30 years. for both of us, that's the strongest reference point to creating this relationship. i'm very proud of the film. also we are artists. fred plays a music teacher and i play the painter. a good enough answer but not a great painter--a good enough painter. his head is in the clouds. it's a lovely portrait of an ar

see that letter from george stevens, i said he is inviting us to come to the honors. i said we'll have to decide as we get closer. he said, no, he wants to honor you. said, no, he doesn't. they give certain people the mark twain and give other people the kennedy honors. and i never want to win those big tickets. charlie: why not? guest: i'm not that old. charlie: they're not that old. charlie: do you feel better? guest: i feel better. charlie: no question that you deserved it. you didn't say, well, look at what i have done that i don't deserve to be here on stage with these people? guest: i did want to trade seats with tom hanks because i wanted to sit next to obama. charlie: would you have given him a piece of your mind? guest: no. he has enough of people's minds. charlie: is feminism part of this? guest: no question. i think if you happen to be male, you better -- you are going to run across a few women in your lifetime. i went to all-boys' schools which is not a hotbed of feminism and have come a long way. and it was exciting. and this is how the story panned out and sam elliot

see a cold-blooded killer. george bush said he looked into his eyes and saw something else. he also was in the situation room with you when president obama and president bush -- president bush made hard decisions. then later under president obama, when he was secretary of defense as well, hillary clinton was secretary of state. he's -- he said about putin, he is playing a bad hand well. do you agree with that? mike: yes. he has an incredibly weak economy. the prognosis for that economy is bad to worse in terms of what is happening to their demographics. he has over invested in oil and gas. he does have a weak hand. but the things he wants, is russia's secret the table, russia is as a great power, constraining the united states and trying to do things around the world. himself so being seen as a major power. he is playing a weak hand pretty well. interestingly, in playing that hand he is weakening his hand down the road. charlie: korean airbase open to russia. moscow's footprint expands in the middle east. iranian airbases. these planes no longer have to fly from russia -- meaning th

. george w. bush, barack obama, bill clinton. dr. kissinger: there have been lots of conversations, and i am familiar with many of them. those conversations are usually why you should help north korea. there has rarely been a formal conversation of the future of northeast asia, partly because for a long time, north korea was considered an integral part of the chinese and the communist world until about one of the most significant events that happened that we couldn't notice. until about three or four years ago, north korea was handled inside china out of the communist party, not out of the foreign ministry. it was considered an adjunct to chinese policy. i think it is only in the last few years that the chinese leadership has begun to understand that the north korea nuclear program is not something that is likely to fail. but something that could be operational and is growing strong enough to affect the balance in asia. charlie: and could be effective within a year, the recent estimates suggest. dr. kissinger: i think speed has surprised everybody. the conduct of the north korean g

am a george herbert walker bush republican. a realist who believes in institutions. i do not like talking about it, we should be it rather than talk about it, be someone others want to emulate and work with. charlie rose: if you take that, the democrats one after another grasp america,ot they were attacking essentially his appreciation of what the history and constitution of america. richard: what i think you have is one candidate, hillary clinton, who was operating within the 40 yard lines of foreign policy, the post-world war ii consensus, and donald trump is not. he is the first major party candidate that is working far beyond. i think it's connected to foreign policy. if you look at his views on immigration and other issues, they are not part of the traditional governing consensus. in maize it may be reflects, 70% of america thinks we're headed in the wrong direction, he is clearly tapping into that. charlie rose: they believe we are in the wrong track. they believe that obama is now experiencing a rise in his ratings. so as the wrong track has risen, president obama's popular

i am a george herbert walker bush republican. a realist who believes in institutions. i like talking about it. it is the kind of thing that creates on the rest of the world. we should be in rather than talk about it. we should be who others want to work with. that,e rose: if you take they say they don't grasp america. they were attacking his of the history and constitution of america. richard: you have one candidate hillary clinton who is operating within the 40 yard lines of foreign policy and donald trump is not. he is the first major party candidate that is working far beyond. i think it's connected to foreign policy. if you look at his visa and they are not part of the traditional governing consensus. and 70% of america thinks we're headed in the wrong direction, he is clearly tapping into that. charlie rose: they believe we are in the wrong track. obama is nowthat experiencing a rise in his ratings. as part of the dilemma for hillary clinton. .ou want to argue continuity then easy 70% of americans say we are on the wrong track. that isrose: continuity, not change. richar

robert jordan, with the epa under george w. bush. about policy decisions. how do you rank of this as a president? mr. jordan: it is the most important environmental decision he will make during his years, and one of the top three climate change decisions on the whole planet. charlie: that is saying a lot. let's leave the legacy adding a side. there.eading mr. martella: it is the message have.trying to and this is a symbolic one. he wants to show leadership to the world. charlie: will it have an impact in terms of what they decide to do in anticipation of going to paris. mr. martella: they will be .ooking at some precedent the challenge is going to come from the developing world. the driver of the increase of greenhouse gas emissions is coming from the developing world, china, indonesia, brazil, and they are going to say this is not fair to us. you had a chance to grow your own economy without having to worry about greenhouse gas emissions, and you want to put a pause on us. i think that is where that will come in. charlie: you mentioned legal challenges. what will they be, and what wil

, coral. ♪ we continue with robert jordan with the epa under george w. bush. you know about policy decisions. how do you rank of this as a president? mr. jordan: it is the most important environmental decision he will make during his years, and one of the top three climate change decisions on the whole planet. charlie: that is saying a lot. let's leave the legacy thing aside. in terms of its impact itself, what makes it what you just characterized? mr. martella: it is the message he is trying to have. and this is a symbolic one. he wants to show leadership to the world. without international action anything we do in the united states will not have a meaningful impact on climate change. the action here is one of a symbolic one. charlie: will it have an impact in terms of what they decide to do in anticipation of going to paris? mr. martella: they will be looking at some precedent. the challenge is going to come from the developing world. the driver of the increase of greenhouse gas emissions is coming from the developing world -- china, indonesia, brazil, and they are going to say t

countries were disappointing. >> there you go. >> it goes on where they are suggesting george herbert walker bush tell the u.n. we are not giving an ambassador. we are just going to sit and not vote. we will not officially pull out but not partake. >> what do you think of this new poll that suggests president obama is the worst president since president nixon? >> in the long game of history, you will see president obama ranked higher than nixon. presidents get an upward revision. george 41 is going up. nixon is toward the bottom because of watergate, obstruction of justice, abuse of power. the racial slurs. talking about people, that they are dirt. it is very hard in a sound bite america to float very high. obama had a fine personal life. you will see obama being a historic first. he will not be by james buchanan or richard nixon. >> of all the people you have written about, who do you admire the most? >> theodore roosevelt and franklin roosevelt. they put public service first. they cared about the country. tr was more conservative. their pragmatism and love of the land. both tr and f

world. george: during the lead up to the war, and certainly in the beginnings of the war, you could argue some of the best news was coming out of that comedy show. they were actually bringing up issues that weren't being talked about in other places. charlie: are they only getting their news from jon? george: that's not jon's fault. that's saying there's a lack somewhere else of real information. stephen: i know something about his politics in terms of i know something about comedians' politics. they tend to be iconoclasts and they tend to be anti-status quo and a lot of comedies about tearing down status or status shifts. jon is admirably balanced, however people may characterize him. every time i ever worked with him on something, he tried to perceive what was the true intention of person speaking left or right, whether or not it was something he agreed with because he wanted to be able to honestly mock. >> i think he is one of the most important voices in information in this country just because he delivers it with a comedic point of view, does not diminish its importance. john:

over each other] >> jesus christ. >> george, george, george. >> you are welcome anytime. >> i understand. i know. thank you. clip]ideo charlie: so, when he left manchester, what was his state of mind? kenneth: devastated. he has left town because of the unspeakable tragedy, and his life is essentially destroyed. i think if it were up to him, he would just go. but his brother is not well. he has congestive heart failure, which is chronic, deteriorating condition. he needs help. taking care of his kid and just generally help. so he just generally needs help. so he goes about an hour and a half away so he can be on hand if he is needed. and he goes into a kind of monastic existence in quincy, which is a town south of boston. charlie: and then he gets to come back. kenneth: and it's implied in the story and the screenplay that he comes back periodically when joe has to be hospitalized. he discusses, he comes back to take care of the kid when there is no one else to do it. so he has been in touch but he is detached himself completely from his family and the town he grew up in. char

success. let us talk about this idea of how he does it, far more than barack obama or george bush 43 has thrown himself into this process, interviewed people, is on the phone constantly. the impression i have is that by selection of other presidents was much more a product of a transition team and involvement by the president-elect, much more involvement of a team. this president wants to touch and talk to and get a personal sense of the men and women he wants to serve. >> exactly. i think it's far too early, charlie, to offer an appraisal in ways perhaps surprising to of this approach that is either positive or negative. i think the country and those of us obligated to cover this process as it unfolds before us need to take it step by step and judge it as the results speak for themselves. remember, jimmy carter was the president who was deeply involved in the day-to-day and hour-by-hour details of his presidency. it bogged him down and separated him from the larger vision. there is a danger involved in a kind of involvement and get, we tend to appreciate someone who has an appreciat

jim baker spoke as secretary of state, he was speaking for george h.w. bush. charlie: what questions would you ask if you were in the senate and asked to confirm rex tillerson? mr. gates: i think clearly they will need to explore their concerns about the relationship with russia. i think mr. tillerson's answers will is somewhere along the lines of what i have described. and a reassurance that as secretary of state he will be acting only in the interest of the united states. i think that they have -- it would be useful for everyone if that hearing included discussions about what kind of a trategy do you think we should ollow toward russia? how should we deal with this country that we have to have a good relationship with in some respects because we both have these gigantic nuclear arsenals and at the same time we have a lot of behavior on the part of the russians that is a serious problem for us? how do you square that circle? i think the senators will want to have some confidence that there is a solution. charlie: in the end, you and i both know that foreign policy is run out of the

>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." >> george osborne is here. he is britain's chancellor of the exchequer. they are currently the fastest-growing economy of g7. in a "wall street journal" op-ed on monday, the chancellor said that research showed his deficit reduction plan is working. budget cuts have been a political issue. the next parliament elections are in may of 2015. surveys suggest that neither party will achieve a majority. i am pleased to have george osborne back at this table. why are you here? >> i am here are saying to both the americans and the brits that we do not have to accept, as countries, secular stagnation, long-term decline. if we have clear long-term plans to get on top of our debts, our best days can be ahead of us. i am taking on the same pessimists who said we have to spend our way out of crisis who now say we have to spend our way out of stagnation. i think their argument is that growth rate is too low, that you need more government spending. my argument is, both in the states, particularly in the u.k., we have a budget defic

>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." >> george osborne is here. he has britain's chancellor of the exchequer. he and david cameron are the architects of britain's austerity policies. austerity received much criticism at the drive-in economic recovery and growth. recently the economy has started to grow. osborne says that his policies are the reason why. i am pleased to have him back at this table. looking at how fast the economy in britain is growing, more than any other g-7 country, why is that true? take as much credit as you want to. >> i'm not going to take credit myself. there was a lot of hard work by the british people. >> what are the ideas in play? >> you must live within your means as they country. we have a solid economic plan that has been reducing the deficit. you also have to repay your banking system. so that i can lend and support the economy. we have made difficult changes to our banking system, but that has been worked through. finally, you must have an environment where people feel comfortable investing. britain is making itself super

in george w. bush's face? who got in bush 41's face? been jimcould have baker. >> different people. i think jim bakker got into -- i think hillary got into bill. among others. as far as george w. bush, i don't know. i don't know enough about the inner dynamics of that administration. >> the question of going into syria and doing something more, the universal idea was everybody saying do it. we have to do it now and they didn't do it. on the other hand, he went into get osama bin laden. they were against that, too, but that decision turned out to be the right decision. very risky. >> i think the president has done a lot of good things that i would praise them for. i hope he finishes on health care. i hope it works. i don't know if it will, but i think it works. i do think it is the right avenue for the right plan. the things he has done on auto mileage, there are things he has done i really like. but what has frustrated me most is that i voted him for one reason -- for him for one reason. i thought he would change the polls, not read the polls. he has done a lot more reading of the pol