, and owner george steinbrenner because guy that believed in winning at any cost, and the dollars that he made on the field, you know, he, i am sure paid his hotel room and his travel, et cetera, but he was interested in putting the money back in the team, because he felt that new york and the franchise and the pans should deserve, you know, the absolute best, the boys are the same way, hall and hang, i think our, hank, i think our organization is run the same which with levine and cashman and lantrose that the concern is about the product on the field, trying to make sure that the franchise contends, and when you look at a ball club today, we faced an awfully good pitcher, another ace of any staff, in baseball, with john verlander on the mound today, so the tigers will contend, we beat a great club today, and we are a good team again, we will get to the dance when they are startin to narrow down who is going to come to graduation and get to the post season, i believe we will punch our ticket. >> kostya you have done a book on dimaggio in 1941. >> right. what drew you to that par

approval rating at this point. truman, carter, george h.w. bush and obama. one out of three that we've had the races won. now, obama as ever complicated the history because he's higher, he's at 46, the other guys were lower than that. but it's... mike just said a really important thing. it's a 50-50 country. the margin in '08 when you think back on it should have been much wider on the political science merits give wherein the economy was. >> also on the polling. you gave obama's polls. romney has the lowest positives and the highest negatives than anybody since bob dole in '96. >> that's true. but people know who obama is. i don't think people have tuned into romney enough for that to be as significant as a president's approval rating. >> it was a measure of what a bad... he flipped his positive-negative numbers. last fall he was sort of 50 positive, 25 negative. he managed to in six months reverse that. >> and the damage with women and hispanics, undeniable. >> rose: that's what i meant by whether he was in a big hole because of his campaign. >> well, one of the things that mike and

involved in, a documentary cbs reports produced by the great george kyl and some mistakes were made in it but not in terms of the content from everything that has been reported. and that's the main thrust of the piece but it was devastating for him because it was very public, he was getting ticked away at every day. and he went into a serious depression. and talks about that with morley in our tribute to him on sunday which is a depression that was so severe that he tried to take his own life. >> rose: he fact he talked publicly about it on larry king about it. >> it was post depression which was really a huge contribution in terms of his life because he was such a major player in bringing depression to the forefront as something not to be ashamed of but that's something that can be pretty. and he was treated successfully and i think morley said he noticed as he came out publicly with this affliction it helped him through it and made him stronger and he really, it changed him. >> one of the things that contributed to the depression was this constant tipping away at his reputation which wa

rank sitting in front of me. >> george tenet did that to me. i was a back againch gs14 which is a middle ranking officer. bangback benching at a c.i.a. meeting he looked at me on the back wall and said who are you? i said, my name is philip mudd i'm a church chump change mid-level officer. he said, what do youÑió[ think about this. even at tha@i level, do you,;2ju what that meant for a c.i.a. officer?çó i said, here's my perspective. i don't know what he thought, but it was a changing moment for me. >> rose: gave you confidence that he wanted to know your opinion. >> that he cared.c >> rose: that my opinion matters and i want to make sure my opinion is as informed as it possibly can be. >> exactly. i do not want to stumble so i better bring my game and plus there are a bunch of people around the table saying why is the director asking that idiot? >> rose: bottom line, the head game is you want people to look at the end game and say what is the question we wantçó here. >> that's right. people look at the data every morning and say especially in this data world -- for example,

retaliation for saddam's effort to try to assassinate george h-w bush. so i think right now it's a one-off. the question is whether the administration has the appetite to try to gain leverage out of this strike. it could seek to just stick to the narrow issue of the use of chemical weapons and the mesessage to assad is essentially you can continue to prosecute this war, if you use chemical weapons, we'll take a whack at you. if you don't, we're essentially going to conduct the policy they had a week ago or this could be the game changer. i have my doubts on whether president trump has done a complete reversal of the policy that was articulated a week ago about assad. but we'll see. >> rose: i think it was tillerson, secretary of state said it was up to the syrian people to choose their leader. >> that's true but as you noted, ambassador haley said something more akin to regime change. and actually president trump in his statement to the american people last thursday night said sort of both things in his statement. and he hasn't really been pressed on this since then. so i think this is

. i said that before when george bush was calling for democracy i said you're like singing to the wrong crowd. there's conflict of interest between democracy. >> charlie: do you think there are other regime that will fall? >> yes, i have no doubt. i have no doubt. i think we'll is a some more movement in syria. maybe they will find a better way to handle the situation but this he have to reform and dismantle the security machine. already with blood on his hands, the problem is once you shot people and killed people and murders there, people are not going to stop. that's the mistake all these regimes do. they shoot people, they kill them. i know myself when i was young and demonstrations. the minute one guy was injured next to me, the anger gave me the power of a hundred people. the anger pushed me forward and i used to go and beat the hell out of the police. if you're human, then the first thing that moves you when someone has assaulted you. >> charlie: you hasaad well. >> yes. >> charlie: do you think he will survive. >> judging by these events i don't think so. he's a very pleas

on me. when the president is here what is he thinking as he sees george washington say, i have to step down so the country can move on. as he faces the end of his term. it is-- it gives me a new chance at a new res onance with the show. and that's-- you know, the challenge of doing-- . >> rose: do you look them in the eye. do you let them know i see you. >> if i can spot them. if i can spot them, i sure do. you know, we had oh gosh, who did we have? we had common here, common one of my favorite rappers. >> rose: oh boy. >> and when we started ten dual commandments a looked right him. i said someone's going to get this reference. it's going to be common. this thing is such a love letter in hip-hop when there is musical theater references, you know, we do a reference to a musical called the last five years by jason robert brown. at the end of the reynolds affair, he goes nobody needs to know. which is the hook of the infidelity song in last five years and when jason robert brown came to the show, i looked right at him. you know, he kindly gave me his permission to use that song, tha

political affairs under george w. bush. i'm pleased to have both of them back on this program. nick burns let me begin with you and something you said to me before we went on camera. this is a remarkable sort of week, i think you said day, in the foreign policy history of a president. >> well, it could be, charlie. you know, donald trump is so unpredictable, you never know what he will say and do next. but look what happened today. rex tillerson went to moscow and said we're at the lowest point in our relationship with russia in memory. donald trump backed that up in the press conference he had with the nato secretary general. they really took it to the russians and were extremely critical of what the russians have been doing in syria. rex tillerson brought it back rightly to ukraine and crimea. and he also said tillerson a couple of days ago that russian interference in our election was a problem. that is i think progress, in calling a spade a spade. this relationship is at a low point and the russians are trying to undercut the united states. i also thought charlie it was interesting to

think they're proud. >> george marshall at the end of his life said to a relative, do you think my father would be proud of me. he did not know. >> rose: take two -- abraham lincoln, lyndon johnson. >> there's a contrast. in my mind, lincoln was adam one, adam two. >> rose: i know. deeply humble good, had a tremendous capacity for rising above hatred. he was a terrible hater in the midst of war and is a moral example to beat all. the second inaugural is a beautiful testament to hue multi. lyndon johnson was something of a monster. johnson could say hey i achieved a lot. i would say a couple of things -- none of us -- >> rose: could you say it wasn't easily -- easily say it wasn't necessary to be how you define monster in order to achieve all those things? he may have benefited people as much as francis perkins. >> i would say someone like the people we cover who are involved in scandal, politics or business is because of something broken inside. the scandal never emerges out of nothing. it's because at a had something undeveloped inside and that they -- their watergate will come, i

george w. bush won in 2004. he won with 0% participation electorate. he won with a greatly expanded number of registered voters, 40% of all eligible venezuelan but maduro, only 30% voted for him. >> charlie: a higher percentage of voters. >> it's a few percentage points lower. so the question is... >> that may be why... he's not... i think a lot of the chavez voters from last october... >> either stayed home. ... or even voted. the way it breaks down the way the electorate in venezuela, the way that chavez support, the remarkable support over the last decade breaks down is roughly 50% of people who don't like feel like their lives were better than chavez or they liked chavez better than who we were running as. gay and lesbian movements, urban barrios, peasant communities that have really felt like that they are part of chavez. they made chavez. i would say that maybe about 750,000 voters that voted for chavez either stayed home or voted for capriles. the question is where did they come from? i would say they're probably from that percentage of the chavez base of support that wasn't

george w. bush at the 74th secretary of the treasury, he is a founder and chairman of the paulson institute at the university of chicago in those roles he traveled to china more than 100 times since 1991, over the years, he has built unparalleled relationships with some of china'sw3çóñ2hsj business and political leaders. including its past three heads of state, to the lessons he learned from those experiences into this book is called dealing with china, an insider unmasks the new economic superpower. i am pleased to have hank paulson back at this table. welcome. >> charlie, it is terrific to be here. >> rose: now here you rewrote a book your first book now you written this and now think, are thinking of a third book. this is your post secretary life is about? >> no. i am afraid a, you know, you and i were jobbing beforehand that when i told wendy i was maybe going to write a second book she said i think i might date again. and this wasn't --, you know the crisis we got to relive it emotionally, but this was a harder book to write, more difficult book because the crisis is the b

either one are third obama term because theas only time that worked is when george h.w. bush succeeded ronald reagan. >> yes, that's not historically what happens. a party gets two terms and then somebody gets a chance, extending it a third is unusual. >> rose: al gore failed to extend the two terms. >> right, the extension doesn't often occur. for it to occur, whether you say it or not, you have to run on what has happened the eight years previous, you can't help but do it. that's why i say here we are, unfinished business, but we are proud and absolutely certain about the business that's been taken care of the last eight years. we're simply going to extend it. you cannot run without embracing the agenda of eight years past, you just can't. and al gore suffered as a result of that. >> rose: indeed. that was a special case, too, because of the scandal at the time. karl rove, for example, said to me elections are a referendum on the future, not the past. >> sure, that's always true, but to give people a sense of what the future looks like, you have to frame their experience in the past.

and i was with my colleague george miller who was rock energy and i warockefellert cornell and we were off to the algonquin. >> rose: for a roundtable. >> and we just came up with a motion of cognitive neuroscience. it came out of the notion that neuroscience needed to know, have a deeper theory about all the nervous system data that we were collecting and cognitive science needed to have some biologic strengths. so this field was born to work together on the biologic basis of a mind basically. >> rose: cognitive science needed some biological restraints. restraint is an interesting word. biological necessity, i mean, the idea that there was a molecular answer and limitations or restrictions to where cognitive understanding could go. >> the idea was that there were too many cognitive tblaryz that we were -- theories that were just simply models. maybe we could eliminate some of these models by saying the underlying mechanisms of brain function memory, aspects of language tension and so forth. that was the idea of biology constraining some of the rich cognitive theories therapy pre

, and -- >> charlie: do you think the people aroun around hillary or e people around george bush or bill clinton, do you think you're that different? >> no, i don't think we're that different. i think the first campaign and what it attracted was so kind of different and authentic that, you know, even if we had lost, it would have been a pleasure. it would have been an exciting time, even if we had lost. >> charlie: do you wish there was no term limit? >> no. >> charlie: no? there should be term limits. >> charlie: so two terms is enough. if you can't get it done in two terms, then -- >> then you're probably tired. you're probably ready to go anyway. >> charlie: do you get tired doing this? >> yes, ma'am. >> charlie: how many e-mails or texts do you get a day? >> i probably get a couple hundred. >> charlie: do you really? do you answer every one of them? if you know the person... >> even people i don't know, i try to respond to every single email. >> charlie: do you really? mm-hmm. >> charlie: you want people to know that -- that's a nice reputation to have, that you care. >> it's pa

. >> they said if we thin decide there was something wrong people will say george bush was not legitimately elected president. that's in the, you know, the decision stopping the vote-counting on saturday. >> charlie: there's a huge consciousness of what was happening outside the court. >> absolutely. charlie: and if in fact it had ruled the other way, let the vote continue, would al gore or george bush been president? >> i think it would have been very close. i think most of the scholarship now indicates that probably gore would have won. certainly that's what... >> charlie: the suggestion by journalistic organizations as well. on both sides people say notwithstanding if all the votes been counted george bush would have been elected and would have won florida and been elected. >> there are some views on that. charlie: other people say... then it depends on what votes are counted, doesn't it? >> and how they're counted because this was a statistical tie. this was... >> charlie: 50-50. this was so close to 50-50 that human error in terms of how you count the votes can swamp the differential i

, you and george. >> oh, okay. i'll take that. no, no, i definitely love directing. >> charlie: do you love it more than acting. >> i tell you, i would say maybe up until we started working on this play, yes. right now -- >> charlie: you've fallen in love with acting. >> doing this play and doing this role in this play which is different than doing the role i did last time i did the may which was one sort of concentrated monologue. this is such a huge role, to face that challenge of doing it, to try to fill it and to be there is really challenging as an actor and enjoyable. for me having the experience i haven't had for a long time as an actor. so but i also loved directing very much and for me it's such a separate thing. to act on stage isn't completely all encompassing experience and it's really very is aing. >> charlie: a film is not a satisfying and all encompassing experience. >> it can be when you're working with somebody who has an aesthetic idea in that world and it can also be a disjointed experience and you can be, you know, it can be hard to have this connection too. you're

a lot of-- a lot of the jazz away from george h-w bush who didn't have much jazz in the firs place. and the fact that perot turched out to be crazy, you know, didn't heart either. but also he made this very interesting vice presidential pick. he picked his cloan, he picked al gore, a moderate southerner from right across the river in tennessee. people didn't do that kind of thing, make those kind of vice presidential choices. and i can tell you right. >> generational. >> it was a generationalk all of a sudden there was a lot of energy. they were in buses going through the center of the country. and hillary clinton can do the exact same thing. >> which woman does she pick. >> elizabeth warren. >> and that would energize the bern-- the bern yoa base wouldn't worry as muchs about bernie if they got the real deal. >> i not sure i take that but it would be-- she certainly is going to be on the list. she will certainly be considered. i think the numbers also bring us back to why you are seeing this outpouring of frustration from brooklyn after new york about bernie sanders. is there is a

look at what obama did it's a difficult hand you can pair it with obvious comparison with george bush and the owned of the cold war, you have to navigate through it. the reality whether you can blame so much for obama and the realities and all the different players in that region do not detect kind of america -- >> the timing of a pivot to asia certainly makes problematic suddenly throwing that under the bus and signify -- >> good money after bad. we broke assad, assad broke syria. the region is in turmoil from its own internal screw ups. we can't fix it up side. i don't know is trying to bank the -- obama is trying to bank the problem -- >> i don't think caught caught rise is a good strategy in a government where jobs are completely different and oil is no longer the gold standard for the region is something we have to invest in. why? because we have in there not just protecting our interests and we have been a target and is going to be the next target. the pivot to asia were not his words it was rebalance. it looked like moving off the middle east which is maybe what gideon's r

boston, a place in history" of george parker. "the culprits" by david remnick and the street scene by seth manukin. welcome. >> thank you. >> rose: here's what you say. "the sense of bland unknowingness, he seemed so nice began to evaporate the closer we got to the tsarnaev brothers." >> always in these tragedies, murder stories, terrorist stories, you have the initial quotes from -- "he seemed so quiet, he seemed so nice, i just saw him the other day." >>. >> rose: with his dog. >> and all that kind of stuff. but because of social media that evaporated quickly and you immediately started to get youtube pages for the older brother. you got a twitter feed from the younger brother. you got all kinds of -- his amazon favorite list and suddenly a picture begins to form of especially older brother becoming increasingly interested in jihadi politics. in some form of chechen-based or northern caucuses based global jihad-like politics and an intense and fundamentalist view and the a dangerous view of islam and bringing the younger brother along for the ride. so it seems. but we should really

was special and that george was special and that george was somehow-- had this, you know leading man potential? >> i can't speak for other people. i was so new to the game then, you know i was 26 years old and bright-eyed and bushy-tailed and i sort of didn't realize what it meant to be on a legal-- on a network drama. and so to me george was always-- i always looked at him that way yes. >> rose: because he looks that way in part. >> well, he just has such-- he's a charismatic unbelievably gracious and humble human being. there is nothing about him that is pretentious at all. and he really was-- his star was rising pretty high within our secretary season. and he was still such a game player with us. so yeah, i think we-- george was the one without kept letting us know. because he had done 14 failed pilots. so he was-- . >> rose: they always believed had nim. >> and always believed in us. i'm here today because of les, les moonves ebb i have had success in is because les moonves. he put er on the air. nbc didn't want to air it. he was head of warner brother television. warren littlefi

from george tenet and a whole lot of other people who have been involved in this. and you get a variety of different opinions and so i'm just asking this of you. >> yeah. >> rose: there is no question in your mind from what you saw, that enhanced interrogation and black sites and water boarding worked to give you information that was essential in the fight against al qaeda. >> correct. >> rose: and an ability to disrupt things that might have happened otherwise. >> correct. >> rose: and the ability down the road to get osama bin laden. >> i don't know about osama bin laden. i think that's a fuzzy story. but in terms of disrupting al qaeda operations i think it's unquestionable, in my world. >> rose: give me an example of what somebody said that was-- an intelligent interrogation, enhanced interrogation coup. and you were able to take that information and stop something that would have killed a lot of innocent people or a lot of americans. >> typically it would be the identification of a name or a fragment of a name. and then would you match that up against the massive databases that we

, i must write about george c. scott, i must talk about elizabeth taylor, i must talk about jason row barred or the people who were in this book, starting when i was 15, with marilyn monroe. >> rose: let's start there, then. tell me about marilyn monroe. >> well. >> i was a skinny kid with horn rimmed glasses, trying to run away from new jersey, where i was born, thinking i had been dropped there by aliens, i didn't have anything -- i didn't feel as if i had anything in common with those italians in new jersey. >> rose: i have respect for them. >> no, no, no, i love them, they are all my family but i had immortal yearnings, i had something burning inside me, so i saved my dollars from my uncles and i got on a bus and i went to general square and then i went to new york, and i was such a naive kid that i thought new york city -- and this is really true, i thought new york city was just time square, like it started at 42nd street and ended at 50th and i went any further north i would hit a mountain or fall in the water. so i ran around those eight or ten blocks, then i realized i ha

named george sinclair in the 1800s and he was doing different experts on grasses and how they'd compete when he planted them next to each other and darwin cited it as being influential and i found a book where the specimens lasted 200 years, preserved, beautiful and if a world where we're living in all the digital data that feels temporarily or easily disposed of, that this thing remained. i wanted to do something with those dried specimens and speak about the notions of survival. to me it was so much about that. and in this book, those specimens stood alongside his data recordings. from that point, i went off to find things like that picture at the munich conference of hitler -- >> rose: well, you said to someone else, i was interested in the idea of these men. who they could control the evolution of the world from their language and assertions and flimsy paperwork they're about to sign and nature's this cay administrated decorative thing that sits between them. >> yes. and there are sculptures in the work designed based on plant presses where all the 36 agreements that i high

? >> rose: you would like to see dick cheney and george bush on trial to be held accountable for the iraqi invasion? >> i'm not really interested in mentioning names. all i know, all i see was that there was a war that was waged outside of the international legalities, based on false or deceptive information, that there was weapons of mass destruction when everybody knew at that time, based on hans blinx, and my report, that there was no evidence of any weapons of mass destruction, and yet the war went ahead, when i know now that this decision was taken even before we started the inspection, then i ask that whoever was responsible for that-- ask i don't know about the political process either in the u.s. or in the kumpd u.k., but all i am saying is we need to investigate how this war was launched, how these people were slaughtered,ing and somebody has to be accountable for this war crime. i mean, i think that is as simple as i can put it. we cothat in every other country. >> rose: but you are saying that the invasion of iraq by united states and its member nations that joined the uni

going to realize as george w. bush and barack obama could tell him these things would not go very quickly. >> rose: what did you think of the speech. >> i think the fact of the speech is what made it interesting. he does not give policy speeches. >> rose: the only one i knew of before is he is writing lobbyists. >> that's right. this is the second time he gave a real speech of substance that was planned ahead as a presentation of agenda. i thought he looked a little uncomfortable in the role of a policy pronouncer. notice that his mouth was really dry and he was stumbling over some of the words. but when it got around to delivering the message there were a number of of, you could diplomatically call them paradoxes, less politely call them contradictions such as we're going to gept out of the business of nation building but build a stronger, safer world. those two things are some what related as we found over the past few years and decades. he argued that there are too many weapons in the world and he later said i want to develop some newer weapons. and he talked about the need to

foreign policy had been used and cooperated by the neo conservatives and george w. bush and used to serve the iraq war. you had a lot of folks who thought the democratic party finally had a solid foundation for a foreign policy, and it really gets out of the ashes of the iraq war, it starts to look very bad. and so there's an effort in the democratic party to do something new, and one direction you could go is in a purely realist direction, concentrate on the interest of the united states, play down. >> charlie: define america's national security. >> exactly. play down the hectoring about democracy which a lot of people in the middle east associated with military venturism. that's the direction that appealed to obama, i think it partly appealed to him because he was thinking about running for president. and he obviously knew hillary clinton would be his opponent and that kind of foreign policy would put her aside for the iraq war and would look very good. he pulled the iraq war. he has a realist direction. he pulled out people like the national security adviser, sort of the reigning