on the welcome to walter part 2 decades after hugo chavez won his 1st election his boley very end revolution is screeching to a halt but runaway inflation and unemployment higher than ever and millions are believed to have left in his and wild world powers are now locked over what their president may do or should go to the bigger question is where should the country move from here to discuss that i'm now joined by rafael ramirez close ally of president chavez and a harsh critic of both president nicolas maduro and the opposition leader. mr ramirez it's good to talk to you thank you very much for your time thank you think is my bush in many a western media you're referred to as either former oil czar or hugo chavez says the right had man i wonder how do you personally see yourself now. here in europe but disclosure because. when the swiss. i was with. the most important both. of our. now i know that you had a major falling out with president maduro in 2017 you accused him of incompetence and there supreme power he accused you of corruption but if we try to put those personal grievances to the

in many western media you're referred to as either former oil czar or hugo chavez's right hand man i wonder how do you personally see yourself now. hearing europe. or. the most important post. now i know that you had a major falling out with president maduro in 2017 you accused him of incompetence and there's supreme power here.

presidents forgetting things like when jimmy carter praised yes praised hugo chavez well no he didn't really praise him but it's just too close we came to know a man who expressed a vision to bring profound changes to his country to benefit is specially those people who had felt neglected and marginalized and once again the free media and patriots had to remind mr carter that chavez is bad and venezuela together with china and russia iran may be a little north korea definitely geez bernie better grab a pen them and more than a baddies and even if they do what america does you can't compare the 2 because you actually can compare them it's entirely possible and even reasonable but because. just don't as trump found out when asked by a journalist about president vladimir putin being a killer do a lot of killers go out and kill as well you think our country so innocent roland well it's technically your right but it's not what america wants to hear one patriotic american put it and no i don't think there's any equivalent i do think america is exceptional america is different i think there'

chavez but he came back apparently that time they didn't wish card enough all right you've got to really get to get your back in july you know you got to really wish card and then just a pinch of salt. military assault for taste moving on the yellow vests protests in france have had decreased but they have not ended it has gotten a little mainstream coverage very little recently because it's not good for the oligarchy propaganda i mean think about it the french have the good teams ready to go and here we are in america where the reason god 3 guys have the same amount of wealth as the bottom 50 percent of the country and those 3 guys really do look like they could take a punch and you know could knock the rubber band on the day and you could use a really good soul like robert gallo i don't know that we can thank. god for the robber barrons i. started selling those t. shirts. there was also a massive anti from rally in venezuela just a few days ago thousands upon thousands marched to demand it and to the u.s. economic war on that country and let's not forget the palestinian great march of

chavez says dr had mad. i wonder how do you personally see yourself now. hearing europe. now i know that you had a major falling out with president maduro in 2017 you accused him of incompetence and power he accused you of corruption but if we try to put those personal grievances to the side what do you make all of what's happening in and around venezuela right now.

chavez. and we all know what has happened since then. i think one element of this is disgust with the local establishment to not being responsive -- for knotting responsive with average citizens. -- not being responsive. and feeling on the part of a lot of citizens the feeling that politicians were taking care of themselves and their friends and not wearing about the average joe or jane. the second was the economic crisis in 2008 and 2009. the elites not only cannot make things happen politically. they really screwed up the global economy. and they really screwed up the american economy. come the recovery, the elites did just fine. but a lot of people who were hurt by the worst economic crisis since the depression, either took a long time to recover, or have never recovered at all. circumstances,se the disparity between what they are earning and what they see the elitist turning today is so again,hat they believe that the so-called elites are taking care of themselves and not paying much atte