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. >> former indiana congressman g jacobs died on sunday. he was an opponent of the vietnam war and helped to write the 1965 voting rights act. a touchstone of the civil rights litigation. >> the future of aerospace lies in the hands of these students. a different approach to education in seattle where college prep meets industry prep. and how a colorado town bounces back from flood challenge. >> rain is on the move, i'll let you know where it's head and who will see a wet wrap-up to the weekend. >> welcome back to al jazeera america. i'm morgan radford live from new york city. ahead the future of flying, a joints venture between airline manufacturers and high schooling. let's get a look at where the snow and rain mail fall with meteorologist eboni deon. >> it will mainly be the eastern u.s. getting all the action, working up the east coastline. still across the south-east where we see our fair share of rain. with additional rain fall that will continue to create the threat around parts of northern and central georgia. as we go through the d
. >> former indiana congressman g jacobs died on sunday. he was an opponent of the vietnam war and helped to write the 1965 voting rights act. a touchstone of the civil rights litigation. >> the future of aerospace lies in the hands of these students. a different approach to education in seattle where college prep meets industry prep. and how a colorado town bounces back from flood challenge. >> rain is on the move, i'll let you know where it's head and who will see a wet...
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his mom and grandfather were in on it but his dad and brothers, jacob and jona and josh were truly overcome with emotion when he walked out. taylor has been serving in afghanistan and hasn't been home in a year. >> wow. >> so sweet. >> you can see that. >> they're upping the game on these surprises for families. >> you can see their emotions. >> people getting deployed two, three, four -- i don't have to tell you. >> over a decade of this. it's rough. >> keep going. there's so much strain on the families. there's not a lot of attention about it on the news. the more attention they can get, the better. >> let's continue the joy of that beautiful moment with a check of the weather. the beautiful christmas weather, indra, please. >> look at that spirit. i give her one little gift and she's like, yeah. let's talk about this system making its way offshore. this was the troublemaker, the one we all dealt with over the weekend. this guy is making its way offshore and should not be a problem anymore. where are we going to see snow? tiny little wave. a bigger system, the clipper that's expected to m
his mom and grandfather were in on it but his dad and brothers, jacob and jona and josh were truly overcome with emotion when he walked out. taylor has been serving in afghanistan and hasn't been home in a year. >> wow. >> so sweet. >> you can see that. >> they're upping the game on these surprises for families. >> you can see their emotions. >> people getting deployed two, three, four -- i don't have to tell you. >> over a decade of this. it's rough....
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i travelled with a friend of the family and reverend jesse jackson to meet nelson mandela, and jacob zuma. there i met the family members. close. >> we heard from heads of state and saw the public views. what has it been like to be there perfectly, that's something we hadn't heard. >> you know, this has been an incredible moment in history to be a part of, but on a personal lef it's sad. the most moving part of the ceremony, where it hit me, the gravt itty of what i was witnessing is when you saw nelson mandela's casket come around the corner, followed by the men, born to the son that died of aids, and they followed the casket and literally walked the casket draped in the south african flag, to the grave. it was heartbreaking, incredibly sad. >> the pictures were beautiful. how is the mandela family dealing with the loss? >> i think they are doing as well as anyone can do under the circumstances. i know that every family member i spoke to was looking forward to today because today is a day this finally the blockades are lifted around the perimeter of their homes. and they are ready t
i travelled with a friend of the family and reverend jesse jackson to meet nelson mandela, and jacob zuma. there i met the family members. close. >> we heard from heads of state and saw the public views. what has it been like to be there perfectly, that's something we hadn't heard. >> you know, this has been an incredible moment in history to be a part of, but on a personal lef it's sad. the most moving part of the ceremony, where it hit me, the gravt itty of what i was witnessing...
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. >> reporter: jacob is home. >> he arrived in the united states monday morning. >> reporter: but how the american businessman returned to the u.s. is a mystery. arrested in 2011 in bolivia, managing a rice business and accused of laundering drug money. in may 2012, he his wife said the family was puzzled and dismayed by accusations. >> the worst part is that he's an innocent man. he didn't do anything wrong. and he proved that innocence in the court of law. >> reporter: last december after spending 18 months in prison without being charged and his health failing he was put under house arrest. an interview with cnn and espagnole, he strongly denied the charges. >> the reason this putting in jail because my associate in switzerland is want ford narco trafficking and without the judge seeing evidence. >> reporter: actor sean penn, who took up the cause of his freedom, traveled to bolivia a year ago and met with president morales. >> we're honored and grateful. president morales received juice penn told the associated press he was extracted from the south american country in a humanitari
. >> reporter: jacob is home. >> he arrived in the united states monday morning. >> reporter: but how the american businessman returned to the u.s. is a mystery. arrested in 2011 in bolivia, managing a rice business and accused of laundering drug money. in may 2012, he his wife said the family was puzzled and dismayed by accusations. >> the worst part is that he's an innocent man. he didn't do anything wrong. and he proved that innocence in the court of law. >>...
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and some of the more pop lay topics, team edward or team jacob from twilight? and the song, call me maybe,. >> i think that's a waste. give you that one. that is a waste. next one, number four. solar panel covers. i don't see what's wrong with that. >> well, $3.5 million spent at boston airport to install these solar panels on top of a parking garage. sounds good well, 25% of them are now covered by tarp because air traffic controllers said they were bottom lining them during the day because of the glare from the sun. >> there's a point to be made there occasionally one makes mistakes in the planning process. >> weren't engineers involved? >> you're not going to give them an inch, are you? tomko -- just reporting from the book. >> the space pizza. sounds like a waste. 125,000 bucks. >> as we were saying, one of the eleast egregious things on the lest. that was spent in a grant to a 3-d printer company, trying to make printed pizza -- >> i don't think that's a waste. 3-d printing is big and who knows what applications this technology will result in, in the real
and some of the more pop lay topics, team edward or team jacob from twilight? and the song, call me maybe,. >> i think that's a waste. give you that one. that is a waste. next one, number four. solar panel covers. i don't see what's wrong with that. >> well, $3.5 million spent at boston airport to install these solar panels on top of a parking garage. sounds good well, 25% of them are now covered by tarp because air traffic controllers said they were bottom lining them during the...
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we saw jacob zuma booed at the public ceremony last tuesday. archbishop desmond tutu who was a close friend of nelson mandela, and a fighter with nelson mandela for the tearing down of apartheid. there were questions as to whether he was invited to the funeral and didn't come until the last minute. all showed tensions within the african national congress. where does south africa go from here. people are saying that his legacy will be preserve served. are people worried that the divisions may create problems? >> this is a moment of redefinition for south africa, but as you can see through south africa's history, its triumph almost always comms after tragedy. this case is no different. a lot of people i spoke to, including former president mbeke, and others, they are saying a lot of south africa's work needs to be continuing to fulfil mandela's legacy. you heard barack obama sounding critical saying, "look, the world is revelling in nelson mandela's legacy. peep don't want to put in a mooedy come. people i spoke to says number one needs to revita
we saw jacob zuma booed at the public ceremony last tuesday. archbishop desmond tutu who was a close friend of nelson mandela, and a fighter with nelson mandela for the tearing down of apartheid. there were questions as to whether he was invited to the funeral and didn't come until the last minute. all showed tensions within the african national congress. where does south africa go from here. people are saying that his legacy will be preserve served. are people worried that the divisions may...
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treasury secretary jacob lew poured cold water on a push by the european union's after regulators to include negotiations of financial service regulation and e.u. trade talks but i also note there is another article that talks about the possibility that we are softening our position so i would like some clarification about where we are in those discussions. >> congresswoman waters, the issue of working on international -- race to the top, the highest standards possible, financial stability. we are active in financial stability. to try to drive that process, i am of the believe and proud the united states is a leader that we have taken decisive action, the most decisive action in the world after the deep recession and economic crisis in 2008-2009. i said on many occasions i do not believe the trade agreements were an appropriate place for us to dilute the impact of the steps we have taken to safeguard the u.s. economy and i think we should make a call to the world community in the appropriate forum like the g 20 to friday to drive the race to the top. i set it in private conversation
treasury secretary jacob lew poured cold water on a push by the european union's after regulators to include negotiations of financial service regulation and e.u. trade talks but i also note there is another article that talks about the possibility that we are softening our position so i would like some clarification about where we are in those discussions. >> congresswoman waters, the issue of working on international -- race to the top, the highest standards possible, financial...
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. >>> new york businessman jacob austriker is reportedly back in the u.s. that's what an unidentified state department official tells the associated press. family members in the u.s. apparently have not seen or heard from him since his return. he was detained more than two years ago without charge in a bolivian money laundering investigation. >>> an olympic size wardrobe malfunction or fail. turns out the red, white and blue mittens the u.s. olympic committee is selling at the sochi winter games were made in china. says so right on the tag. yes. the usoc says the official mittens that the american athletes will wear during the opening ceremonies will indeed and are definitely made in the good old usa. >> every time i feel like we've got the same thing. >> it's amazing how much the wardrobe -- >> it's that hard to have things not made in china. that's what it tells us. >> yes. >>> let's move to our political gut check of the morning. the senate looking to clear the bipartisan budget compromise by a crucial test vote after several conservative republicans ple
. >>> new york businessman jacob austriker is reportedly back in the u.s. that's what an unidentified state department official tells the associated press. family members in the u.s. apparently have not seen or heard from him since his return. he was detained more than two years ago without charge in a bolivian money laundering investigation. >>> an olympic size wardrobe malfunction or fail. turns out the red, white and blue mittens the u.s. olympic committee is selling at the...
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joining us from san francisco, jacob good to see you. is they'e after. google doesn't play by the rules that others play by. they have almost unlimited resources. it is an academic institution unto themselves. it is a broad scoop that they have, you know, used to bring all of these companies on board. and each of these companies that they've acquired over the past year has really been a different part of a really broad diverse portfolio of robotics. the idea here is, i think, really mastering the collection of data. i think google recognizes that the future is going to involve robotics in many, many formation, from industrial to home use, with be first to the data and own the data in that market. >> so jacob, how did that amazie founder mark rayburn was one of the first to develop robotic imagery, if you want to scare a child show them a child some footage. my daughter is terrified of this, it is modeled on nature. it is a kind of constant rebalancing that makes for incredible balance when i.t. comes to rubble, snow, you can shove the thing with your sho
joining us from san francisco, jacob good to see you. is they'e after. google doesn't play by the rules that others play by. they have almost unlimited resources. it is an academic institution unto themselves. it is a broad scoop that they have, you know, used to bring all of these companies on board. and each of these companies that they've acquired over the past year has really been a different part of a really broad diverse portfolio of robotics. the idea here is, i think, really mastering...
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south african president jacob zuma said that his struggle for justice will carry forward. while the long walk to freedom has ended in the physical sense, our own journey continues. we have to continue building the type of society he worked tirelessly to construct. we have to take what is laid so wills and in doing continue drawing lessons from your very rich and extraordinary life. people visited his coffin in the lead up to the funeral. at least 125 people were killed when syrian government warplanes on rebel areas in the northern area of aleppo. dead included 28 children. the attack comes a month over -- before peace talks are set to take place in geneva. saturday marks the first anniversary of the massacre at .andy hook elementary school newtown residents held quiet remembrances after asking the news media for privacy. in his weekly address, president obama said only clinical mobilization from concerned americans can bring about good control. keep have to do more to dangerous people from getting their hands on guns so easily. we have to do more to heal troubled minds. w
south african president jacob zuma said that his struggle for justice will carry forward. while the long walk to freedom has ended in the physical sense, our own journey continues. we have to continue building the type of society he worked tirelessly to construct. we have to take what is laid so wills and in doing continue drawing lessons from your very rich and extraordinary life. people visited his coffin in the lead up to the funeral. at least 125 people were killed when syrian government...
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the current president, jacob, presided over the unveiling and after there was a party to celebrate the day of reconciliation. a national holiday. >> today, donald whirl as a member of the vatican's congregation of bishops. world growing influence in pope francis. whirl was the only new american named to that congregation by francis and replaces cardinal raymond birk, a conservative holdover from the days of benedict xvi. >>> closer to record territory. and tonight, it's already larger than it was this morning. we need tickets. deb. >> and we ask you to give you and you certainly did. look at all these guys. you guys excited? what do you want more of? >> toys. >> toys. >> give joy. we'll be right back. >>> try having to deal with 140 packages a seco : recapping tonight's stories. a 33-year-old man is under arrest accused in two separate sexual assaults in the chillam area. pulled a woman into a wooded area near bell crest road and assaulted her. a second woman was assaulted in that same area a short time later. >> three women, two of them teens now allege they were sexually assaulted at
the current president, jacob, presided over the unveiling and after there was a party to celebrate the day of reconciliation. a national holiday. >> today, donald whirl as a member of the vatican's congregation of bishops. world growing influence in pope francis. whirl was the only new american named to that congregation by francis and replaces cardinal raymond birk, a conservative holdover from the days of benedict xvi. >>> closer to record territory. and tonight, it's already...
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we also have video of this same interpreter next to president jacob can be zum mallast year. this isn't a man who appeared once. it's someone close to the government for some time. we should also mention that president. zuma is facing corruption charges in other areas. that's a massive complaint people have in this country about the government. unfortunately, it may be showing that south africa today is a far cry of that of nelson mandela years ago. >> errol, it it is puzzling and troubling. they've got a lot of questions to be answered. it doesn't make any sense what happened there. erroll, thank you very much. we appreciate it. as he mentioned, nelson mandela now in his final resting place. his funeral was held over the weekend in a village where he grew up. about 4500 people pack aid huge at the present time for the ceremony mandela was buried near the graves of three of his children. >> a 30-foot bronze statue of mandela was unveiled in pretoria as part of today's national day of reb conciliation. he was sworn in as president in the city nearly 20 years ago. it's beautifu
we also have video of this same interpreter next to president jacob can be zum mallast year. this isn't a man who appeared once. it's someone close to the government for some time. we should also mention that president. zuma is facing corruption charges in other areas. that's a massive complaint people have in this country about the government. unfortunately, it may be showing that south africa today is a far cry of that of nelson mandela years ago. >> errol, it it is puzzling and...
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south african president jacob zuma delivered the eulogy. >> it is the end of 95 glorious fighter, afreedom dedicated and humble servant of the people of south africa. >> mandela was buried with full military honors on a hillside in his hometown on sunday. coming up on abc 7 news at noon, the latest in the manhunt underway after a violent murder in the parking garage of a new jersey mall. local residents are giving back to those in need. and the countdown till christmas, taking a look at why today is the busiest shipping day. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> >> you are watching abc 7 news at noon, on your side. thehe manhunt continues for carjackers who shot and killed a man in a parking garage as a new jersey mall last night. the victim and his wife had just finished shopping when they were caught offguard by gunmen. gonzales has the latest. >> a night of holiday shopping and eight with deadly gunfire. in the parkingan garage of a mall in suburban new jersey around 8:30 last night, shot in the head. 's wife started to get in the vehicle. as he got to the
south african president jacob zuma delivered the eulogy. >> it is the end of 95 glorious fighter, afreedom dedicated and humble servant of the people of south africa. >> mandela was buried with full military honors on a hillside in his hometown on sunday. coming up on abc 7 news at noon, the latest in the manhunt underway after a violent murder in the parking garage of a new jersey mall. local residents are giving back to those in need. and the countdown till christmas, taking a...
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today president jacob zuma unveiled a statue of mandela at the same place he took office as president in 1994 following the country's first ever multi- racial elections. >>> sometimes reality hits you in the face. but in there case a football. coming up on our play of the day, the face mask foul during the dolphins game. >>> did the 49ers fall into the so-called trap game? and something alex never did in a 4er uniform, coming up. >>> what is cool about your school? you can e-mail your nominations to us at kpi x.com, we may feature your school right here on our show. ,, avo: the volkswagen "sign then drive sales event is back. which means it's never been easier to get a new passat, awarded j.d. power's most appealing midsize car, two years in a row. and right now you can drive one home for practically just your signature. get zero due at signing, zero down, zero deposit, and zero first month's payment on any new 2014 volkswagen. hurry, this offer ends january 2nd. for details, visit vwdealer.com today >>> good morning, everybody. after emotional wins in sports a lot of teams are prone
today president jacob zuma unveiled a statue of mandela at the same place he took office as president in 1994 following the country's first ever multi- racial elections. >>> sometimes reality hits you in the face. but in there case a football. coming up on our play of the day, the face mask foul during the dolphins game. >>> did the 49ers fall into the so-called trap game? and something alex never did in a 4er uniform, coming up. >>> what is cool about your school?...
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this morning south africa's president jacob zula unveiled a new statue to honor nelson mandela. the statue was located in the country's capital of pretoria. zula was one of 4,500 people to attend the memorial yesterday. >>> let's take a live look outside overlooking san francisco this morning. oh, a little shaky. could it be windy out there, christina? >> yes, a little breezy out there. good morning to you, but that's keeping our temperatures milder this morning in places like napa. you jump out of the 30s and straight into the 40s with the northerly wind picking up. 43 degrees in oakland. because of the wind, warmer this morning in napa. then right here in san jose, 38 degrees. 37 to start your monday in san martin. so overall, we're getting milder by a few degrees in most of the bay area cities. 10 degrees warmer in oakland. 14 degrees milder in napa with the wind building out there. now, heading throughout the day today, that wind is going to help mix our atmosphere a little bit. so it won't be quite as stagnant, which is better for our air quality, nonetheless. i have to tel
this morning south africa's president jacob zula unveiled a new statue to honor nelson mandela. the statue was located in the country's capital of pretoria. zula was one of 4,500 people to attend the memorial yesterday. >>> let's take a live look outside overlooking san francisco this morning. oh, a little shaky. could it be windy out there, christina? >> yes, a little breezy out there. good morning to you, but that's keeping our temperatures milder this morning in places like...
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this morning south africa's president jacob zuma unveiled a new statue to honor nelson mandela. the statue is located in the country's capital. he was one of 4,500 people to attend mandela's burial yesterday in his childhood village. >>> academy-award whipping actress joan fontane died in her sleep yesterday. she won an oscar for her role in "suspicion." hollywood also remembering peter o'toole this morning who received eight academy award nominations but never won an award until he received the honorary oscar in 2002. o'toole died in london after a long-known illness. he was 81. >> some hollywood greats. >>> new tensions in the middle east this morning after an israeli soldier is killed on the country's border with lebanon. >>> plus, it was supposed to be his wedding night, but instead a young groom killed while trying to help a stranded driver. the new video just into our newsroom next. >>> google buys more robots and we'll take a look ahead to the trading day as well. >>> welcome back. a newly married man was helping a driver on the side of the road just hours after his weddi
this morning south africa's president jacob zuma unveiled a new statue to honor nelson mandela. the statue is located in the country's capital. he was one of 4,500 people to attend mandela's burial yesterday in his childhood village. >>> academy-award whipping actress joan fontane died in her sleep yesterday. she won an oscar for her role in "suspicion." hollywood also remembering peter o'toole this morning who received eight academy award nominations but never won an award...
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and jacob zuma has a 30 foot statute of the beloved leader in pretoria and part of reconciliation days which began the year after mandela helped end apartheid and it ended with his burial in the village where he grew up. it's a busy week in washington for the senate, a vote to pass a budget bill is expected to take place on tuesday. the plan has already passed a difficult plan in the house and po has promised to sign it, with lawmakers in the senate wrapping up the year on friday, passage of the budget bill is considered likely but not guaranteed. >> the ayes are 332. the nos are 94. the motion is agreed to. >> reporter: the budget bill heads to the senate this week after passing the house by an overwhelming vote, the bill would dampen the government shut down for the next two years. we will need about 8 republicans to come our way. i feel we will have a good, strong showing from the democratic side but we need by partisan support to pass it. >> reporter: a tough sell for republicans who say the spending cuts don't go far enough. >> we are plagued by a government who continues to spend
and jacob zuma has a 30 foot statute of the beloved leader in pretoria and part of reconciliation days which began the year after mandela helped end apartheid and it ended with his burial in the village where he grew up. it's a busy week in washington for the senate, a vote to pass a budget bill is expected to take place on tuesday. the plan has already passed a difficult plan in the house and po has promised to sign it, with lawmakers in the senate wrapping up the year on friday, passage of...
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helped create, the hands on the statute are open both of them open, the arms raised in embrace with jacob zuma said should symbolize the south africa that is now in place. so south africans moving on, the mourning for nelson mandela over, this is the transitional day in a way, a national public holiday which everybody is celebrating, we will hear a speech from president zuma within the next half hour but now it's very much looking to the future. now it's very much taking up those challenges that everybody has been speaking about through the past ten days, that is a legacy that nelson mandela left how to make it work, that is the reality that is now facing south africans today as they pause during the period of mourning and going back to their lives when all the work, all the industries and everything opens tomorrow after this public holiday. >> and mike just a quick one you had a chance to look at it, we will have our own opinion about works of art, due do you think it does mandela justice, "yes" or "no"? >> yes, it does, it does capture something of the man and that particular pose that
helped create, the hands on the statute are open both of them open, the arms raised in embrace with jacob zuma said should symbolize the south africa that is now in place. so south africans moving on, the mourning for nelson mandela over, this is the transitional day in a way, a national public holiday which everybody is celebrating, we will hear a speech from president zuma within the next half hour but now it's very much looking to the future. now it's very much taking up those challenges...
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president jacob zuma said it has been long and painful. >> many gathered in and around qunu, hoping to gather a glimpse of madeba. not everyone had a chance to get close to him. we explain why. >> many living in nelson mandela's village of qunu were not allowed to attend his furniture. they watched it on a screen. this woman came to say goodbye. she's happy that nelson mandela came home to the eastern cape province. >> he teach us to forgive and forget and make peace with people, and love the neighbours. >> they say being here makes them feel part of the ceremony. >> these people are not far from the nelson mandela homestead. it's over there, the dome marquee in the distance, that's where the vips and heads of state were sitting. people from the village are unhappy they weren't invited to attend the village. >> these people have neighbours who can't understand why they weren't on the guestlist. she was taut when someone dies you go in person to pay respects. >> translation: it's not right we get to see him for the last time. we are all sad he's gone. tata is the father. >> others under
president jacob zuma said it has been long and painful. >> many gathered in and around qunu, hoping to gather a glimpse of madeba. not everyone had a chance to get close to him. we explain why. >> many living in nelson mandela's village of qunu were not allowed to attend his furniture. they watched it on a screen. this woman came to say goodbye. she's happy that nelson mandela came home to the eastern cape province. >> he teach us to forgive and forget and make peace with...
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president jacob zuma will unveil this statue at the very place mandela became president. >> nelson mandela did a lot for our country, south africa. >> reporter: the statue will serve as a symbol of reconciliation and unity. danielle noting ham, cbs news, south africa. >>> and one of the greats of the acting world, peter o'toole died this weekend. a look back at his long and celebrated career. >> reporter: peter o'toole was a little known actor when he took the lead role of lawrence of arabia. an international star, and won him his first oscar nomination. other big roles followed. king henry ii, opposite richard burton in beckett. henry ii the second time opposite to katherine hepburn. 8 oscar nominations, most recently for venus in 2006. he failed to win every time. an academy record. he did win off the screen in 2003. health problems forced him to give up booze in 1975. he embraced his image as an excentric. reliving his lawrence of arabia role with david letterman in 1995. peter o'toole said if you can't do something willingly and joyfully, then don't do it. a great actor dead at 81. >>>
president jacob zuma will unveil this statue at the very place mandela became president. >> nelson mandela did a lot for our country, south africa. >> reporter: the statue will serve as a symbol of reconciliation and unity. danielle noting ham, cbs news, south africa. >>> and one of the greats of the acting world, peter o'toole died this weekend. a look back at his long and celebrated career. >> reporter: peter o'toole was a little known actor when he took the lead...
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the president of south africa, jacob zuma is speaking. >> nelson mandela, the founding president of our democratic nation has departed. >> it is 7:00 pm eastern time in new york, 2am in johannesburg, where mourners, as you can see are gathering outside nelson mandela's home. they are celebrating the life of south africa's first democratically elected president. you are looking at the scenes, people paying respects for a man imprisoned for believing in freedom and equality, a man who became a towering symbol for human rights, equality. >> people of all walks of life, religions, colours and ages gather here, this is the south africa nelson mandela dreamed. nelson mandela inspired people around the world. mourners gather outside the embassy. >> former president george w. bush and laura bush expressed condolences, releasing a statement staying: -- saying: >> we will not see the likes of nelson mandela again. so it falls to us, as best we can, to forge the example that he set. >> this seems to be turning into a celebration of the life of nelson mandela. >> i can barely hear you through all t
the president of south africa, jacob zuma is speaking. >> nelson mandela, the founding president of our democratic nation has departed. >> it is 7:00 pm eastern time in new york, 2am in johannesburg, where mourners, as you can see are gathering outside nelson mandela's home. they are celebrating the life of south africa's first democratically elected president. you are looking at the scenes, people paying respects for a man imprisoned for believing in freedom and equality, a man who...
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four-hour long event included family members, religious leaders and including south african president jacob zuma. here is some of what he had to say. >> once the long walk to freedom has ended, in the physical sense, our own journey continues. we have to continue building the type of society you worked tirelessly to construct. >> reporter: after the public ceremony the casket was transported to the grave site where some of his family members, including children, are buried. the plot is to symbolize his life-long struggle against apartheid and social justice. there were helicopters and jets overhead, a 21-gun salute but it was a quiet moment for his inner circle by the grave. here at mandela's long final home, now turned into a museum. there have been crowds here all day as well. those in south africa are beginning to come to grips with a post mandela south africa including all of the political challenges that that means. >> greg, thank you very much. >>> well a massive winter storm making getting anywhere a real hassle in the northeast. the latest on the cleanup as people try to get things
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on a number ofd skins in front of south african president jacob zuma and members of the mandela family. guide us with your grace ♪a place where we'll be afe ♪ >> among the many boldface names in the audience were oprah winfrey, richard branson, reverend jesse jackson, and prince charles. >> we shall miss you. voice as you your told us stories of your childhood. we shall miss your laughter. after the funeral, mandela was buried in a private ceremony attended by hundreds of family members and close friends, marking the end of a chapter for south africa and the world. >> thanks. new developments in a suspicious death. the wife of an army soldier is in custody. marquita sutton turn herself into police yesterday. her husband was found inside their home friday morning. wasstigators say sutton stabbed to death. the couples 21-month-old child was at home. weather, check on the here is a live look outside. things are much better compared to the wet weather we saw yesterday. steve rudin has a look. >> the sunshine was a welcome change. we have been watching temperatures from the weather cent
on a number ofd skins in front of south african president jacob zuma and members of the mandela family. guide us with your grace ♪a place where we'll be afe ♪ >> among the many boldface names in the audience were oprah winfrey, richard branson, reverend jesse jackson, and prince charles. >> we shall miss you. voice as you your told us stories of your childhood. we shall miss your laughter. after the funeral, mandela was buried in a private ceremony attended by hundreds of family...
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south africa's current president, jacob zuma,ments criticized for failing to live up to mandela's moral standard. vowed to carry on the legacy. >> the long walk to freedom has ended in the physical sense. our own journey continues. >> reporter: and then at noon by tradition, when the sun was highest, the shadows shortest, he was let go. and south africa said nelson mandela was finally free. richard engel, nbc news, south africa. >>> president obama of course paid his respects to nelson mandela when he spoke at a memorial service in johannesburg on tuesday. you may have seen these photos released by the white house, taken aboard air force one on the way to south africa. president bush and his wife laura, secretary of state hillary clinton traveled with the obamas. official photo releases like these are not. >> reporter: now at the central of an escalating battle between the white house and the news media over access and image control. our white house reporter has more. >> reporter: this sumter president and his former secretary of state had lunch at the white house. a newsworthy event. t
south africa's current president, jacob zuma,ments criticized for failing to live up to mandela's moral standard. vowed to carry on the legacy. >> the long walk to freedom has ended in the physical sense. our own journey continues. >> reporter: and then at noon by tradition, when the sun was highest, the shadows shortest, he was let go. and south africa said nelson mandela was finally free. richard engel, nbc news, south africa. >>> president obama of course paid his...
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we have american and signs technology expert jacob war board. >> any whales out there? >> starting to see a few. >> michael spent the last 25 years here on the clear blue waters of manta ray bay, a 2 hour drive south of san francisco. he started as a surfer and fisherman and runs a small whale watching company. >> he knows the wheels in the base he can pick them out by their tales. >> we know these individual whales. if we see it pop up here, it has a distinctive hunch. humpback. >> he has a few whales to keep track of. there are as many as 20 in the bay. biologists estimate there are 10 times that many, over 200. >> they have come here to feed on an explosion of anchovies. >> there's an unusual bloom of anchovies. they are having a last feet before going to the breeding grounds. they are tanking up before they go to mexico to romans. >> that's correct, romans and give birth. >> where there are this many whales there are whale watchers. >> they have a lot of locals and we get a lot of folks from germany, the netherlands, france, spain. >> this is a unique environment in
we have american and signs technology expert jacob war board. >> any whales out there? >> starting to see a few. >> michael spent the last 25 years here on the clear blue waters of manta ray bay, a 2 hour drive south of san francisco. he started as a surfer and fisherman and runs a small whale watching company. >> he knows the wheels in the base he can pick them out by their tales. >> we know these individual whales. if we see it pop up here, it has a distinctive...
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speeches in which they talked about mandela's legacy, his long walk to freedom.president of this country, jacob zuma, said that in a physical sense, that walk to freedom is now over and some south africans said that in many ways for the first time in his life nelson mandela is now finally free. the question is what happens next. what happens next in this country. and there are real challenges, there is poverty, there is crime. the anc, the party that mandela belonged to, is not universally popular. and when the leader of that party and the president, jake okay zuma, when he spoke just a few days ago at that massive memorial service in johannesburg, he was booed by the crowds. apartheid is not over and there is no official raesist pocist p but still racial tension. and white south africans still own the majority of the land and are worried what will happen to them. will they have a future in this country now that mandela has gone and now 245 that the person who led the building of what he described as a rainbow nation has now been laid to rest.245 t who led the building of what he described as a
speeches in which they talked about mandela's legacy, his long walk to freedom.president of this country, jacob zuma, said that in a physical sense, that walk to freedom is now over and some south africans said that in many ways for the first time in his life nelson mandela is now finally free. the question is what happens next. what happens next in this country. and there are real challenges, there is poverty, there is crime. the anc, the party that mandela belonged to, is not universally...
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we saw the rebuke of president jacob zuma, where he was booed by the crowd. that's never happened before. wife never seen people in south africa to say to the ruling party, to the african national congress, you need to do better. you need to take his legacy and run with it. i was speaking to a young gentleman in a town where mandela was born, he pointed out look, we're not sure whether the future is safe with these leaders. let's take a listen to what he has to say. >> a lot of people were scared of doing wrong things because of the old man. and he was expected everywhere. so now it's a question of will the nation unite again. >> and there's that thought. the worry that now that mandela is dead people will forget his legacy. won't act like he would have. and that means lot of questions for next year's election and olot of questions for the political leaders currently being questioned by many south africans richelle. >> there is only one nelson mandela, that is the reality of it. we'll have to see what happens. nick schiffrin reporting. a special on nelson man
we saw the rebuke of president jacob zuma, where he was booed by the crowd. that's never happened before. wife never seen people in south africa to say to the ruling party, to the african national congress, you need to do better. you need to take his legacy and run with it. i was speaking to a young gentleman in a town where mandela was born, he pointed out look, we're not sure whether the future is safe with these leaders. let's take a listen to what he has to say. >> a lot of people...
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some drawn with exhaustion and grief. [♪ singing ] >> south africa's president jacob zuma led them in a song reminiscent of the years of struggle. [♪ singing ] interwe the nation are crying, the words go, from the song sung at the funerals of fallen heroes for the expression of gratitude for perhaps the greatest hero of them all. >> we wish today to express two simple words: thank you. thank you for being everything we wanted. and needed. in a leader. during a difficult period. in our lives. your long walk to freedom has ended, in the physical sense. our own journey continues. >> in a blend of the formal with the traditional they were deeply personal tributes as well. from one of his 18 grandchildren. >> we saw you stand by us when you were not pleased with our behavior. we shall miss your voice, as you told us stories of your childhood. we shale miss your laughter. >> reporter: and from lifelong frind and fellow prisoner, addressing the ma'am he called madala. >> what do we say to you, madal after in these days? the last final moments together before you exit the public stage? when
some drawn with exhaustion and grief. [♪ singing ] >> south africa's president jacob zuma led them in a song reminiscent of the years of struggle. [♪ singing ] interwe the nation are crying, the words go, from the song sung at the funerals of fallen heroes for the expression of gratitude for perhaps the greatest hero of them all. >> we wish today to express two simple words: thank you. thank you for being everything we wanted. and needed. in a leader. during a difficult period....
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south african president jacob zuma says this is the end of a freedom fighter. he went to prison for leading the fight against the apartheid. an unmanned chinese roverer studying the surface of mars. it will take soil samples for the next three months on solar power. this china's first moon rover. >>> florida state quarterback james win citizen is celebrating his first heisman trophy. they will not file charges in the year-old rape allegation that just became public last month. a lawyer for the alleged verdict asking for further investigation. win stead is the youngest player ever to win the heisman. >>> coming up in our 3:00 hour, we'll see more audio recordings that reveal the final moments of 19 firefighters who died fighting a wildfire in arizona. >>> the family dynamics of the ruling kim family of north korea are fascinating to begin with. the pate tree yark of the family and the founder of the nation, il-sung is afforded bod like status. his son, kim jong-il was brutal once handed the reigns of dictator ship. a and it was hoped that his son would be the ki
south african president jacob zuma says this is the end of a freedom fighter. he went to prison for leading the fight against the apartheid. an unmanned chinese roverer studying the surface of mars. it will take soil samples for the next three months on solar power. this china's first moon rover. >>> florida state quarterback james win citizen is celebrating his first heisman trophy. they will not file charges in the year-old rape allegation that just became public last month. a lawyer...
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joining me is jack jacobs. and executive vice president for economic empowerment at the wounded warrior project and retired army officer jennifer silva. welcome. in that documentary one of your colleagues mentioned there are more injuries from ptsd than from traumatic injuries physical injuries. is that your experience at the wounded warrior project with veterans coming home as well? >> absolutely. according to our veterans that we survey 75% have anxiety or post traumatic stress. that exceeds any physical wound. >> in that documentary which is so powerful it talks about when she was back in college using the post 9/11 g.i. bill and she had a service dog named g.i. joe. one of her english professors gave her a hard time for the dog. do you think schools are ready in breaking down the military divide in the nation? >> i don't think any part of society is ready. you have to remember a very small number of men and women serve this country in the last 20 or 30 years since we have had the all volunteer service and p
joining me is jack jacobs. and executive vice president for economic empowerment at the wounded warrior project and retired army officer jennifer silva. welcome. in that documentary one of your colleagues mentioned there are more injuries from ptsd than from traumatic injuries physical injuries. is that your experience at the wounded warrior project with veterans coming home as well? >> absolutely. according to our veterans that we survey 75% have anxiety or post traumatic stress. that...
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"jacob's oath" is the same issue set in germany in 1945. the relationship between the novels and my work as a journalist, i was always looking for the story that told the bigger story. i would always meet people on the worst day of their lives. that was my job for 35 years. the question i had apart from the daily reporting was, what do you do now? how do you get on with the rest of your life after your child's been killed or after all the terrible things that happened for everyone is this that was always the question i had. that brought me to my own family which was wiped out in the holocaust. my parents and their generation. how did they get on with the rest of their lives? it fascinates me today. they are heroes, the people who pick up the pieces and carry on. i don't know how you do it. >> you walked the mountains in afghanistan in the '80s when the soviets were at war with afghanistan. osama bin laden helped to fund it. back then when you heard about him could you have envisioned the role he would play a couple of decades later? >> yes.
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ranged from religious leaders to public figures to family members including south african president jacob zuma. here is what he had to say at the ceremony today. >> the long walk to freedom has ended in the physical sense. our own journey journeys. our own journey continues. we have to build the type of society you worked tirelessly to construct. >> reporter: after the public ceremony the casket was taken to the grave side. the plot is designed to symbolize mandela's life long struggle against apartheid for social jus -- justice. there were helicopters and a 21-gun salute. there was also a quiet moment with the inner circle near the gravesite beginning to think of the loss of their loved one. and in places where we are right now, the long-time home of nelson mandela turned to a museum. there have been crowds here all day and across south africa they are thinking of life after mandela with the challengeds political and economic facing this country. back to you. >> live in south africa, greg, as always, thanks so much. jaime? >>> now we will switch gears and talk about iran's nuclear progra
ranged from religious leaders to public figures to family members including south african president jacob zuma. here is what he had to say at the ceremony today. >> the long walk to freedom has ended in the physical sense. our own journey journeys. our own journey continues. we have to build the type of society you worked tirelessly to construct. >> reporter: after the public ceremony the casket was taken to the grave side. the plot is designed to symbolize mandela's life long...
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it's the talk bad about wanting what i teach that were spoken on jacob's do not use his running into a clean his he's been criticized of course matt does appear to be on going there seems to somewhat of the plaudits. and that criticism. where's he going to go to fort mcnair. i think the coolest but it is going to be uncool it's very very quickly and in fact that it was during the past ten days she is surrounded her use of a disney is ready and allegations that its contents people many errands and went to the charges that he was approached the boat and eighty two thousandfive which he escaped conviction on the island and to encourage a lot of corruption charges in tremendous popular anger about them the upgrades to his homestead for example which it actually cost twenty million dollars of taxpayer money i am running cadence a swimming pool not anti cancer and so on. so personally. he is and i said in a sense of old idiocy that christian leaders have come unto me the press so fortunate and have proper well. and and sarah. and the city will face the biggest challenge that it sees politi
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very good friend, producer of my records, and jacob on the drums. >> what will we hear on the after-show show? >> a song called "christmas time again." >> thanks for everything. we'll see you next week. >>> and a fox news alert, good morning, some major new enrollment issues with obama care. it's just days away. as you can see, healthcare.gov shut down for repairs again last night. all of this as we learn that thousands of applications that were submitted through the online exchanges never made it to many of the insurers, and those people may not be approved for coverage come january 1st. isn't that a requirement? i'm jamie colby. great to have you here. >> i'm eric shawn on this sunday morning. this whole issue stems from ongoing problems in what they call the back end of the website. that's where the forms are supposed to be processed. some insurance companies say those forms often arrive incomplete or just plain wrong. peter is here with what this means to people who think they have signed up. >> between launch day and last week, about 15,000 people who think they signed up for insura
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mandela's first and second wives sat on either side of south african president jacob zuma. mandela's casket was placed below a lectern where speakers delivered their eulogies. >> we praise and thank you, o, god, for dr. nelson mandela for his faithfulness to your call, his example of justice, peace, and reconciliation, and his courage to endure suffering, rejecti rejection, and persecution for the sake of others. >> a former political prisoner and friend of nelson mandela also spoke at the ceremony. he was convicted alongside mandela and spent 26 years in prison with him. >> farewell, my dear brother, my mentor, my leader. with all the energy and determination we are pleased to join the people of south africa. >> mandela's burial ends ten days of mourning ceremonies. >>> the cold snap had homeless advocates working in overdrive. coming up, what the city of san jose is considering that could help more people get off the streets and into permanent housing. >>> and in san jose this morning, here is a look at the sunrise view. clear, cold start, but a slightly warmer finish to
mandela's first and second wives sat on either side of south african president jacob zuma. mandela's casket was placed below a lectern where speakers delivered their eulogies. >> we praise and thank you, o, god, for dr. nelson mandela for his faithfulness to your call, his example of justice, peace, and reconciliation, and his courage to endure suffering, rejecti rejection, and persecution for the sake of others. >> a former political prisoner and friend of nelson mandela also spoke...
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south africa's president jacob zuma led them in a song reminiscent of the years of struggle. we, the nation, are crying the words go. the song sung at the funerals at fallen hero with an expression of gratitude for perhaps the greatest hero of them all. >> we wish today to express two simple words. thank you. thank you for being everything we wanted and needed in a leader during a difficult period in our lives. the long walk to freedom has ended in the physical sense. our own journey continues. >> reporter: in a blend of the formal with the traditional, there were deeply personal tributes as well from one of his 18 grandchildren. >> we shall miss you when you were not pleased with our behavior. we shall miss your voice as you told us stories of your childhood. we shall miss your laughter. >> reporter: from life-long friend and fellow robben island prison addressing the man he called madala. >> what do we say to you, madala, in these days? the last, final moments together before you exit the public stage. when he died, i lost a father, and now i'm lost a brother. my life is in
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. >> reporter: current president jacob zuma who many have criticized for failing to live up to mandela's moral standard, vowed to carry on the legacy. >> it is the end of 95 glorious years. the long walk to freedom has ended in the physical sense. our own journey continues. >> reporter: and then at noon by tradition, when the sun was highest and the shadows shortest, he was let go. as south africans said, nelson mandela was finally free. today marks the end of an extraordinary life, the boy who became an activist, then a prisoner who went on to help free a nation. lester? >> richard engel in south africa, thanks, richard. >>> there are new details this morning about the 18-year-old who opened fire at his colorado high school on friday critically wounding one student. police now say the gunman likely intended to hurt many more. ron mott is outside arapahoe high school in centennial, colorado, with the latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. police, in fact, say karl pierson showed up here ready to hurt a lot of people on friday and the terrifying scene that unfolded didn't take m
. >> reporter: current president jacob zuma who many have criticized for failing to live up to mandela's moral standard, vowed to carry on the legacy. >> it is the end of 95 glorious years. the long walk to freedom has ended in the physical sense. our own journey continues. >> reporter: and then at noon by tradition, when the sun was highest and the shadows shortest, he was let go. as south africans said, nelson mandela was finally free. today marks the end of an extraordinary...
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a lot question whether jacob zuma is doing that. the notion is here, that okay we've buried tata, their father, therefore what is next. what is the next generation going to do, what can we get next. what is the economic freedom we have been looking for. there's huge questions and it's fascinating to know where it will go. best a discussion for tonight or tomorrow. now, in the community is mourning, thanking nelson mandela for his sacrifices and the modern country that he helped create. >> once in a generation or life-time. nick schifrin from the birth place of nelson mandela. >> saying goodbye to nelson mandela much foreign dignitaries, top government officials, celebrities and business tycoons were among the 45 paying tribute to nelson mandela. among them prince charles and oprah winfrey. nelson mandela's life documented in films and books, will help build a bridge for future generations. tania paige took a tour of his archive to see how his memory will live on. >> the center of memory is full of predictable and the strange and unu
a lot question whether jacob zuma is doing that. the notion is here, that okay we've buried tata, their father, therefore what is next. what is the next generation going to do, what can we get next. what is the economic freedom we have been looking for. there's huge questions and it's fascinating to know where it will go. best a discussion for tonight or tomorrow. now, in the community is mourning, thanking nelson mandela for his sacrifices and the modern country that he helped create. >>...
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very good friend, producer of my records, and jacob on the drums. >> what will we hear on the after-show show? >> a song called "christmas time again." >> thanks for everything. we'll see you next week. >>> and a fox news alert, good morning, some major new enrollment issues with obama care. it's just days away. as you can see, healthcare.gov shut down for repairs again last night. all of this as we learn that thousands of applications that were submitted through the online exchanges never made it to many of the insurers, and those people may not be approved for coverage come january 1st. isn't that a requirement? i'm jamie colby. great to have you here. >> i'm eric shawn on this sunday morning. this whole issue stems from
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jacob zuma singing that song at the beginning of his eulogy was making clear the context in which nelson mandela should be remembered along with all the greatness he has achieved. i'm joined here by the chief executor of the nelson mandela foundation, one of the legacy bodies of nelson mandela and of his name. firstly, you watched the funeral and saw the respect, the dignity. what went through your mind when you saw nelson mandela finally go? >> i think it was a fitting tribute to the life well-lived. i think south africans have this image that we shouldn't just be crying at this moment and mourning his passing, but we should be celebrating because madiba got 95 years, but he also gave 67 years of his life of service. then he retired three times, and i think those three retirements were preparing us for what was coming. even when it came, you still had the sense of loss, the deep sense of loss. we feel left with that. some of the staff members of the nelson mandela foundation have served nelson mandela for over 20 years. it's encouraging to them to see how they have pulled together in th
jacob zuma singing that song at the beginning of his eulogy was making clear the context in which nelson mandela should be remembered along with all the greatness he has achieved. i'm joined here by the chief executor of the nelson mandela foundation, one of the legacy bodies of nelson mandela and of his name. firstly, you watched the funeral and saw the respect, the dignity. what went through your mind when you saw nelson mandela finally go? >> i think it was a fitting tribute to the...
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. >> african president jacob zuma earlier tonight, announcing the death of nelson mandela in south africa. mr. man del della was hospitalized this past june. in late june, his condition went from serious to critical and at one point mr. mandela was placed on life-support. his family gathered, seemingly getting ready to say good-bye. for several days in late june, the whole world braced for the world of mr. mandela's passing. world leaders from president obama to the u.n. secretary general, ban ki-moon, offered prayers and remembrances. but mr. mandela held on this summer. by the time of his 95th birthday on july 18th, with crowds gathered outside his hotel room to sing to him, to celebrate his life, mr. mandela was described by then as responding to treatment and his doctors said he was steadily improving. by august, mr. mandela was breathing normally. and although he was still battling the lung infection that had hospitalized him in the first place, in august, he was -- excuse me, on the first of september, he was discharged from the hospital, so that he can continue to receive intensive
. >> african president jacob zuma earlier tonight, announcing the death of nelson mandela in south africa. mr. man del della was hospitalized this past june. in late june, his condition went from serious to critical and at one point mr. mandela was placed on life-support. his family gathered, seemingly getting ready to say good-bye. for several days in late june, the whole world braced for the world of mr. mandela's passing. world leaders from president obama to the u.n. secretary...
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as we prepared to hear from jacob zuma in a moment, i do want to talk about the politics. the ruling power was stronger under nelson mandela, was it not. >> it was powerful. progress.voted for the party >> institutional racism though, the effects of institutional racism are lasting. it takes years and decades to turn around institutional racism and apartheid. >> yes, that's a legacy any government will have to deal with. also, there is a way in which there is a way that nelson mandela has gone, that they can relax in terms of the ethical standards, and the bar that he set. you can find that that's one of the effects of his passing. people think okay. we don't have a moral compass, so we can be relasted in our understanding of the constitution, that's a possible effect of his passing. >> are they loading the youth? >> the youth in south africa is divided. it is divided between the youth who are not benefitting from the change at the end of apartheid. in south africa you'll be seen as breaking off the youth, they are the ones that they will have trouble with in the future. >
as we prepared to hear from jacob zuma in a moment, i do want to talk about the politics. the ruling power was stronger under nelson mandela, was it not. >> it was powerful. progress.voted for the party >> institutional racism though, the effects of institutional racism are lasting. it takes years and decades to turn around institutional racism and apartheid. >> yes, that's a legacy any government will have to deal with. also, there is a way in which there is a way that nelson...