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you look at what we have, we aren't dependent on that anymore and we very shortly -- >> we don't need jordan, the saudis, the emirates? >> people have to pay their fair share. saudi arabia was making $1 billion a day. >> i know. >> and we're defending them and we're getting -- >> you are the only one that can cut a deal. no one else has been able to cut a deal. >> they don't cut deals like i cut deals, that i can tell you. >> you're willing to walk? >> you always have to be able to walk. >> how do you walk from nato, the middle east, north asia, china, all these relationships, just drop them all? >> nato is 68 years old, okay? you have countries that are getting a free ride. you have countries that benefit from nato much more than we do. we don't benefit that much from nato. >> i think you can turn down new deals but all of these deals we've had like nato, relation shchs with japan. >> of course, why should they when we give them -- >> do you want them to have a nuclear weapon? >> i'll answer that question. a lot of people don't know this, we spend a fortune on defending japan. we spend a fo