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if perdue were to be leading, went to runoff, karl rove beliefs perdue probably would prevail. you never know, so much money and so much focus will be attached to these races they could go either way. martha: very interesting. john, thank you very much. bill: 100 million in north carolina. 100 million in kentucky so far. you get a runoff, whole country will be throwing their money in there. martha: that is the scenario. if both sides don't try to invest that money now and try to get over the 50% mark and save themselves money later, that will be next couple of weeks. bill: then of course none of this may happen. and that is why we watch the first tuesday in november. we're just getting a response from carnival cruise lines. there is a passenger on board, one of their ships in the caribbean, who may have come into contact with the ebola patient in dallas, texas. we'll tell you what they're saying. >> happy cruising, right? plus president obama telling everybody to relax a bit on the ebola issue. he says, you know we've got this. we'll keep this in check. the president has promis

here is karl rove on that last night. >> he's six years into his presidency. he might have been able to skate by in 2009 or 2010 saying it's bush's fault. but not after six years into his presidency. he looks stronger if he takes responsibility on himself. martha: he went on with a lot more on that topic. martha: i'm joined by doug schoen and monica crowley. the online opinion editor for the washington times. i just -- this is an interesting line that karl wrote. he said he can get bigger. you worked for bill clinton. do you think there was a moment when bill clinton made a decision to sort of get bigger? >> sure. i think the balanced budget efforts in '95 and '96 represent a precise example of what you are speaking of. and the domestic context. certainly when we went after bin laden in the late 90s and faced terrorism. bill clinton tried to bring the nation together. what i take from what carl said is we are all americans. this is not about assessing claim or parsing responsibility. it's coming together for common purpose to take on a common enemy. that what'

. >> karl rove, he is sticking around. >> i saw her kick you. bill: a new york city doctor testing positive for the deadly virus after treating patients in west africa. he rode the subway in new york. martha: he's 33 years old. his name is craig spencer. he's in isolation after he checked himself in with a 103 degree fever. the governor urged new yorkers to stay calm. >> i know it's a frightening situation. that it's here in new york it's more frightening. new york is a dense place. a lot of people on top of each other. but the more facts you know, the less frightening the situation is. martha: officials trying to keep everyone confident that new yorkers are not at a great risk. >> reporter: a lot of people are surprised a doctor who treated ebola patients in africa would come home on ride subways and go bowling even after feeling fatigued. but there is reason for optimism that the risk of the public being ex posed is very, very small. he spent a month treating ebola patients in guinea and west africa. he returned to his oklahoma in harlem last

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martha will have a look at the exil polls and chris wallace and karl rove and dana perino, i don't know if we can get everybody in the building. martha: there are reports of another security breach on pennsylvania avenue. russian hackers suspected of breaking into the white house computer network. wendell goler joins us now. how serious do you think this breach was? >> reporter: the white house says the hackers didn't access classified information. some of the computers were taken offline. one senior administration official said on background, quote, our actions are ongoing and some resulted in temporary outages and loss of connectivity for our users. our computers and systems have not been damaged. this happened two or three weeks ago. an official in the office of the president said they received alerts concerning potential cyber effects pretty much every day and they take actions to mitigate those threats pretty much every day. martha: they bleach according to the reporting this is the work of russian hackers. >> that's the suspicion. the russians were behind a 2008 military cyber att

sabato joins us with his crystal ball, and we'll talk last minute strategy with steve israel, also with karl rove. plus five bodies found in a home in utah, now police say the family was probably poisoned, but who did it? and we're learning a top isis target has been in america's sights for more than a year. so why did the obama administration wait until last month to call him a terrorist? it's all "happening now." bill: good deal. okay, jon, we'll see you then. jon: see you in ten minutes. bill: top of the hour. >>> a 2,000-year-old fine, a shipwreck like nothing you have seen before. we're going to talk to one of the divers who has been down braving the abyss. ♪ ♪ sweered lobster'sory! endless shrimp ends soon! the year's largest variety. like new spicy siriacha shrimp, or parmesan shrimp scampi. as much as you like, any way you like. but it won't last long, so hurry in today. and sea food differently. it's a fresh approach on education-- superintendent of public instruction tom torlakson's blueprint for great schools. torlakson's blueprint outlines how investing in our schools will re

chris wallace, brit hume, charles krauthamer, george will, karl rove, dana perino. not too shabby that lineup. we'll start at 6:00 p.m. eastern. we'll see you on sunday evening with an election special here at 8:00 p.m. on fox news. >>> get you back to this story for an update. the maine nurse is staying steadfast in her defiance of the ebola risk quarantine. she went on a bike ride with her boyfriend yesterday which caused all the press to chase after her to find out what she is. main governor, paul lepage will use full extent much his authority to keep people safe. laura engle is live. what is the going on since the big bike ride we saw yesterday? >> reporter: kaci hickox is sticking to her buns and saying she is perfectly healthy and not a danger to the public as she continues to monitor herself for any signs and symptoms of ebola. you're right everybody is talking about that bike ride and it took place yesterday. her mile-long bike ride with her boyfriend in fort kent, maine, is defiant act nicely and repeatedly to remain quarantined in her home until the recomm