. >> julie: a way to react to maisie hirano, who says that the president continues to obstruct. listen to this. >> there comes a time where we need to do the appropriate and right thing. i think this is that time. even now, the president is continuing to try and obstruct whatever the house is doing to shed light on what happened during the 2016 elections, and thereafter. his obstructive activities are continuing a pace. >> julie: the president is continuing to obstruct. your thoughts? >> my thoughts are they will continue to accuse them of crimes, not in the hypothetical. there are actually he committed crimes. those are things you can't say, probably from a centered perspective as well. but that's what they want to put into the american people's minds. they want the american people to continue to hear coming out the president did something they didn't do. they don't care if they are right or if they have the facts on their side. in fact, they don't have the facts on their side. they are just so blinded by rage at what's going on with this administration that there willing to ma